BTS, you spurred me to post this. Incredible family dedication in this part of the world.
https://www.scotsman.com/news/people/life-and-death-last-glasgows-rivermen-1558161
All signs point to her falling in the river. The dog stayed around that same point even though he could easily have run off in any direction. There is a gate nearby but the dog could have easily crawled under the fence.
The big problem is that they should have found her body by now unless as stated above she is lodged in some kind of hole in the river bank somewhere. I have no other way of explaining it.
Abduction seems highly unlikely, there are dog walkers all over the place there. And the dog wouldn't have stayed in that same spot if she was abducted.
Apparently there is an exit from the riverbank where there is no CCTV, so it is possible she could have left and not been seen, she could have been bundled into a van undetected.
But the dog would surely have followed, but what if there was an accomplice who stayed with the dog at stopped it chasing after.
Also if she went into the river, the dog would have likely followed, so why was the dog dry and why were there no cries for help heard if she got into difficulty. Apparently she was a very good swimmer, so it is unlikely she drowned, unless she had some kind of medical episode (unlikely at age 45) or was attacked and thrown in.
It`s all very strange and no sign of a body anywhere in the river.
Honestly mate it’s so baffling I’m just yeh baffled lol
Honestly have no idea now
Genuinely one of the most strangest things that’s ever happened especially in this day and age of technology, cameras, nosey kants etc
comment by Pranks Baby (U22336)
posted 1 day, 21 hours ago
You believed the whole falling in the river thing when there was absolutely no evidence to support it
She is as fit as fiddle and a strong swimmer so no she didn't just fall into the river.
Not to mention this river at a snails pace.
She's either been abducted or chosen to disappear by choice,
Given the situation abduction looks the obvious conclusion.
How the police ruled out a 3rd party on day 1 is just outrageousBecause they didn't think a crime had been committed they missed out on a lot of forensics.
Just a mess.
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Sorry but how do you know more than the police?
She was on a work call while walking her dog in broad daylight. The only way she was abducted was if aliens picked her up.
And disappearing by choice would be impossible considering the dog didn’t disappear with her.
What’s crazy is she still hasn’t been found in the river and they’ve called off the search for her in the area they believe she fell so the truth is we probably will never know what happened.
comment by ●Billy The Spur● 20*21*22* ENIC OUT! (U3924)
posted 8 hours, 44 minutes ago
Apparently there is an exit from the riverbank where there is no CCTV, so it is possible she could have left and not been seen, she could have been bundled into a van undetected.
But the dog would surely have followed, but what if there was an accomplice who stayed with the dog at stopped it chasing after.
Also if she went into the river, the dog would have likely followed, so why was the dog dry and why were there no cries for help heard if she got into difficulty. Apparently she was a very good swimmer, so it is unlikely she drowned, unless she had some kind of medical episode (unlikely at age 45) or was attacked and thrown in.
It`s all very strange and no sign of a body anywhere in the river.
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There's also no sign of her slipping in to the water from the bank.
comment by KLS - Mick Lynch for prime minister (U1695)
posted 18 minutes ago
comment by ●Billy The Spur● 20*21*22* ENIC OUT! (U3924)
posted 8 hours, 44 minutes ago
Apparently there is an exit from the riverbank where there is no CCTV, so it is possible she could have left and not been seen, she could have been bundled into a van undetected.
But the dog would surely have followed, but what if there was an accomplice who stayed with the dog at stopped it chasing after.
Also if she went into the river, the dog would have likely followed, so why was the dog dry and why were there no cries for help heard if she got into difficulty. Apparently she was a very good swimmer, so it is unlikely she drowned, unless she had some kind of medical episode (unlikely at age 45) or was attacked and thrown in.
It`s all very strange and no sign of a body anywhere in the river.
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There's also no sign of her slipping in to the water from the bank.
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What exactly would that look like...?
comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by KLS - Mick Lynch for prime minister (U1695)
posted 18 minutes ago
comment by ●Billy The Spur● 20*21*22* ENIC OUT! (U3924)
posted 8 hours, 44 minutes ago
Apparently there is an exit from the riverbank where there is no CCTV, so it is possible she could have left and not been seen, she could have been bundled into a van undetected.
But the dog would surely have followed, but what if there was an accomplice who stayed with the dog at stopped it chasing after.
Also if she went into the river, the dog would have likely followed, so why was the dog dry and why were there no cries for help heard if she got into difficulty. Apparently she was a very good swimmer, so it is unlikely she drowned, unless she had some kind of medical episode (unlikely at age 45) or was attacked and thrown in.
It`s all very strange and no sign of a body anywhere in the river.
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There's also no sign of her slipping in to the water from the bank.
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What exactly would that look like...?
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If someone had slipped into a river from the bank there'd be marks on the bank of them slipping. slip marks from theyre feet, marks were her arris hit the floor.
Have you never slipped on a hill?
Who said she slipped? She may have fell.
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 19 seconds ago
Who said she slipped? She may have fell.
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she may have done, don't see why the phone would be on the bench in that case.
why didnt the dog go in after her?
I don't get the phone left as a decoy theory either.
If you are abducting someone you don't want people knowing that person is missing for as long as possible. Leaving her phone and her dog highlights her disappearance very quickly.
Not that I have experience in abduction.
comment by KLS - Mick Lynch for prime minister (U1695)
posted 26 seconds ago
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 19 seconds ago
Who said she slipped? She may have fell.
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she may have done, don't see why the phone would be on the bench in that case.
why didnt the dog go in after her?
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She put the phone down to go and address some issue with the dog.
Because it doesn't like water? Got scared by the owner falling in?
Equally, why didn't the dog pursue its owner if she went another way, instead stayed by the river "distressed"? Why was the phone placed like that?
It’s pretty clear she wasn’t abducted. There is a slight possibility she voluntarily vanished but her behavior on the day doesn’t suggest it’s something she would do.
Unfortunately she’s probably out in the Irish Sea by now and we’ll never know what happened.
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by KLS - Mick Lynch for prime minister (U1695)
posted 26 seconds ago
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 19 seconds ago
Who said she slipped? She may have fell.
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she may have done, don't see why the phone would be on the bench in that case.
why didnt the dog go in after her?
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She put the phone down to go and address some issue with the dog.
Because it doesn't like water? Got scared by the owner falling in?
Equally, why didn't the dog pursue its owner if she went another way, instead stayed by the river "distressed"? Why was the phone placed like that?
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possible
A few years ago, my aunt was found dead, face down in a swimming pool. She was an excellent swimmer. It turned out she had a heart attack while in the pool and drowned.
Not saying that’s happened to her but there are plenty of situations where an experienced swimmer can drown. Idk why people keep bringing up the fact she can swim well.
Not all dogs like water, especially when they see their owner die in it. It’s not exactly crazy the dog wasn’t wet when found.
Mist likely scenario imo...
She sat on the bench, put her phone down and listened to the teams meeting. Probably struggled to keep her eyes open. Suddenly noticed the dog was too close to the river or out of sight so went to get the dog. Tripped. Fell in. The combination of lots of clothing, the cold icy water and the shock meant she could neither get out nor scream. Her body shut down and the river took her body out to sea.
Could have smacked her head on the way down which is why there were no cries for help.
comment by Vladimikel Artutin - committing war crimes aga... (U18355)
posted 20 minutes ago
A few years ago, my aunt was found dead, face down in a swimming pool. She was an excellent swimmer. It turned out she had a heart attack while in the pool and drowned.
Not saying that’s happened to her but there are plenty of situations where an experienced swimmer can drown. Idk why people keep bringing up the fact she can swim well.
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Cold water shock is a real factor here too
The country’s leading underwater expert says she didn’t get washed out to sea though its impossible
So is he just wrong? Wouldn’t they have found some type of clothing or jewellery if she was washed away?
comment by Oscar #TeamFury. It’s Coming Homeeeee! (U12980)
posted 4 minutes ago
The country’s leading underwater expert says she didn’t get washed out to sea though its impossible
So is he just wrong? Wouldn’t they have found some type of clothing or jewellery if she was washed away?
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why..?
comment by Oscar #TeamFury. It’s Coming Homeeeee! (U12980)
posted 25 minutes ago
The country’s leading underwater expert says she didn’t get washed out to sea though its impossible
So is he just wrong? Wouldn’t they have found some type of clothing or jewellery if she was washed away?
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He also said her body should have been discovered by other dog walkers by now if her body has been swept out towards sea. It really is a bit of a mindfeck
You hear all the time about bodies being found a long way down river weeks after a person has gone in
A former colleague of mine jumped off the Dartford Bridge and his body was found 3 weeks later miles away. Not comparing this river to the Thames, but it isn't uncommon.
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posted on 7/2/23
BTS, you spurred me to post this. Incredible family dedication in this part of the world.
https://www.scotsman.com/news/people/life-and-death-last-glasgows-rivermen-1558161
posted on 8/2/23
All signs point to her falling in the river. The dog stayed around that same point even though he could easily have run off in any direction. There is a gate nearby but the dog could have easily crawled under the fence.
The big problem is that they should have found her body by now unless as stated above she is lodged in some kind of hole in the river bank somewhere. I have no other way of explaining it.
Abduction seems highly unlikely, there are dog walkers all over the place there. And the dog wouldn't have stayed in that same spot if she was abducted.
posted on 8/2/23
Apparently there is an exit from the riverbank where there is no CCTV, so it is possible she could have left and not been seen, she could have been bundled into a van undetected.
But the dog would surely have followed, but what if there was an accomplice who stayed with the dog at stopped it chasing after.
Also if she went into the river, the dog would have likely followed, so why was the dog dry and why were there no cries for help heard if she got into difficulty. Apparently she was a very good swimmer, so it is unlikely she drowned, unless she had some kind of medical episode (unlikely at age 45) or was attacked and thrown in.
It`s all very strange and no sign of a body anywhere in the river.
posted on 8/2/23
Honestly mate it’s so baffling I’m just yeh baffled lol
Honestly have no idea now
posted on 8/2/23
Genuinely one of the most strangest things that’s ever happened especially in this day and age of technology, cameras, nosey kants etc
posted on 9/2/23
comment by Pranks Baby (U22336)
posted 1 day, 21 hours ago
You believed the whole falling in the river thing when there was absolutely no evidence to support it
She is as fit as fiddle and a strong swimmer so no she didn't just fall into the river.
Not to mention this river at a snails pace.
She's either been abducted or chosen to disappear by choice,
Given the situation abduction looks the obvious conclusion.
How the police ruled out a 3rd party on day 1 is just outrageousBecause they didn't think a crime had been committed they missed out on a lot of forensics.
Just a mess.
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Sorry but how do you know more than the police?
She was on a work call while walking her dog in broad daylight. The only way she was abducted was if aliens picked her up.
And disappearing by choice would be impossible considering the dog didn’t disappear with her.
posted on 9/2/23
What’s crazy is she still hasn’t been found in the river and they’ve called off the search for her in the area they believe she fell so the truth is we probably will never know what happened.
posted on 9/2/23
comment by ●Billy The Spur● 20*21*22* ENIC OUT! (U3924)
posted 8 hours, 44 minutes ago
Apparently there is an exit from the riverbank where there is no CCTV, so it is possible she could have left and not been seen, she could have been bundled into a van undetected.
But the dog would surely have followed, but what if there was an accomplice who stayed with the dog at stopped it chasing after.
Also if she went into the river, the dog would have likely followed, so why was the dog dry and why were there no cries for help heard if she got into difficulty. Apparently she was a very good swimmer, so it is unlikely she drowned, unless she had some kind of medical episode (unlikely at age 45) or was attacked and thrown in.
It`s all very strange and no sign of a body anywhere in the river.
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There's also no sign of her slipping in to the water from the bank.
posted on 9/2/23
comment by KLS - Mick Lynch for prime minister (U1695)
posted 18 minutes ago
comment by ●Billy The Spur● 20*21*22* ENIC OUT! (U3924)
posted 8 hours, 44 minutes ago
Apparently there is an exit from the riverbank where there is no CCTV, so it is possible she could have left and not been seen, she could have been bundled into a van undetected.
But the dog would surely have followed, but what if there was an accomplice who stayed with the dog at stopped it chasing after.
Also if she went into the river, the dog would have likely followed, so why was the dog dry and why were there no cries for help heard if she got into difficulty. Apparently she was a very good swimmer, so it is unlikely she drowned, unless she had some kind of medical episode (unlikely at age 45) or was attacked and thrown in.
It`s all very strange and no sign of a body anywhere in the river.
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There's also no sign of her slipping in to the water from the bank.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
What exactly would that look like...?
posted on 9/2/23
comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by KLS - Mick Lynch for prime minister (U1695)
posted 18 minutes ago
comment by ●Billy The Spur● 20*21*22* ENIC OUT! (U3924)
posted 8 hours, 44 minutes ago
Apparently there is an exit from the riverbank where there is no CCTV, so it is possible she could have left and not been seen, she could have been bundled into a van undetected.
But the dog would surely have followed, but what if there was an accomplice who stayed with the dog at stopped it chasing after.
Also if she went into the river, the dog would have likely followed, so why was the dog dry and why were there no cries for help heard if she got into difficulty. Apparently she was a very good swimmer, so it is unlikely she drowned, unless she had some kind of medical episode (unlikely at age 45) or was attacked and thrown in.
It`s all very strange and no sign of a body anywhere in the river.
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There's also no sign of her slipping in to the water from the bank.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
What exactly would that look like...?
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If someone had slipped into a river from the bank there'd be marks on the bank of them slipping. slip marks from theyre feet, marks were her arris hit the floor.
Have you never slipped on a hill?
posted on 9/2/23
Who said she slipped? She may have fell.
posted on 9/2/23
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 19 seconds ago
Who said she slipped? She may have fell.
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she may have done, don't see why the phone would be on the bench in that case.
why didnt the dog go in after her?
posted on 9/2/23
I don't get the phone left as a decoy theory either.
If you are abducting someone you don't want people knowing that person is missing for as long as possible. Leaving her phone and her dog highlights her disappearance very quickly.
Not that I have experience in abduction.
posted on 9/2/23
comment by KLS - Mick Lynch for prime minister (U1695)
posted 26 seconds ago
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 19 seconds ago
Who said she slipped? She may have fell.
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she may have done, don't see why the phone would be on the bench in that case.
why didnt the dog go in after her?
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She put the phone down to go and address some issue with the dog.
Because it doesn't like water? Got scared by the owner falling in?
Equally, why didn't the dog pursue its owner if she went another way, instead stayed by the river "distressed"? Why was the phone placed like that?
posted on 9/2/23
It’s pretty clear she wasn’t abducted. There is a slight possibility she voluntarily vanished but her behavior on the day doesn’t suggest it’s something she would do.
Unfortunately she’s probably out in the Irish Sea by now and we’ll never know what happened.
posted on 9/2/23
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by KLS - Mick Lynch for prime minister (U1695)
posted 26 seconds ago
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 19 seconds ago
Who said she slipped? She may have fell.
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she may have done, don't see why the phone would be on the bench in that case.
why didnt the dog go in after her?
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She put the phone down to go and address some issue with the dog.
Because it doesn't like water? Got scared by the owner falling in?
Equally, why didn't the dog pursue its owner if she went another way, instead stayed by the river "distressed"? Why was the phone placed like that?
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possible
posted on 9/2/23
A few years ago, my aunt was found dead, face down in a swimming pool. She was an excellent swimmer. It turned out she had a heart attack while in the pool and drowned.
Not saying that’s happened to her but there are plenty of situations where an experienced swimmer can drown. Idk why people keep bringing up the fact she can swim well.
posted on 9/2/23
Not all dogs like water, especially when they see their owner die in it. It’s not exactly crazy the dog wasn’t wet when found.
posted on 9/2/23
Mist likely scenario imo...
She sat on the bench, put her phone down and listened to the teams meeting. Probably struggled to keep her eyes open. Suddenly noticed the dog was too close to the river or out of sight so went to get the dog. Tripped. Fell in. The combination of lots of clothing, the cold icy water and the shock meant she could neither get out nor scream. Her body shut down and the river took her body out to sea.
posted on 9/2/23
Could have smacked her head on the way down which is why there were no cries for help.
posted on 9/2/23
comment by Vladimikel Artutin - committing war crimes aga... (U18355)
posted 20 minutes ago
A few years ago, my aunt was found dead, face down in a swimming pool. She was an excellent swimmer. It turned out she had a heart attack while in the pool and drowned.
Not saying that’s happened to her but there are plenty of situations where an experienced swimmer can drown. Idk why people keep bringing up the fact she can swim well.
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Cold water shock is a real factor here too
posted on 9/2/23
The country’s leading underwater expert says she didn’t get washed out to sea though its impossible
So is he just wrong? Wouldn’t they have found some type of clothing or jewellery if she was washed away?
posted on 9/2/23
comment by Oscar #TeamFury. It’s Coming Homeeeee! (U12980)
posted 4 minutes ago
The country’s leading underwater expert says she didn’t get washed out to sea though its impossible
So is he just wrong? Wouldn’t they have found some type of clothing or jewellery if she was washed away?
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why..?
posted on 9/2/23
comment by Oscar #TeamFury. It’s Coming Homeeeee! (U12980)
posted 25 minutes ago
The country’s leading underwater expert says she didn’t get washed out to sea though its impossible
So is he just wrong? Wouldn’t they have found some type of clothing or jewellery if she was washed away?
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He also said her body should have been discovered by other dog walkers by now if her body has been swept out towards sea. It really is a bit of a mindfeck
posted on 9/2/23
You hear all the time about bodies being found a long way down river weeks after a person has gone in
A former colleague of mine jumped off the Dartford Bridge and his body was found 3 weeks later miles away. Not comparing this river to the Thames, but it isn't uncommon.
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