You'll notice the ones you listed won the CL.
comment by Robbing Hoody - At the end of a storm (U6374)
posted 8 minutes ago
Top coaches get big jobs and win trophies.
There are numerous examples of coaches doing a good job at 2nd and 3rd tier clubs.
Personally I think he was exceptionally lucky to have Kane come through.
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And also on the Kane comment Robbing that could be applied to various managers with the players they ‘inherited’
Pep with his Barca team
Ancellotti with a few clubs
Fergie with class of 96
Fact is good managers make good players great
Please don't mention Poch in the same breath as Fergie, Zidane and Pep. It's laughable.
comment by Robbing Hoody - At the end of a storm (U6374)
posted 1 minute ago
You'll notice the ones you listed won the CL.
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Yeah that was precisely my point. They played for teams expected to be challenging for CL. And in their first posts went to said top clubs and done what was expected to challenge for the biggest trophies.
comment by Robbing Hoody - At the end of a storm (U6374)
posted 44 seconds ago
Please don't mention Poch in the same breath as Fergie, Zidane and Pep. It's laughable.
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I am not comparing Poch to any. Just saying they inherited many top players. But it is never used to lesser their achievements. Continue bending words.
Fergie inherited Mark Robins and Dion Dublin in a squad that drank 10 pints a night.
I'm no fan of the man but c'mon.
comment by Robbing Hoody - At the end of a storm (U6374)
posted 1 minute ago
Fergie inherited Mark Robins and Dion Dublin in a squad that drank 10 pints a night.
I'm no fan of the man but c'mon.
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Yes but you can’t apply to rule to Pochettino with Kane and not apply to other managers.
Every manager strikes gold with players from time to time. Every manager inherits duds, Holtby, Carroll, Fryers, naughton were all in his first 11 picked
comment by BelfastSpur (U15068)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - At the end of a storm (U6374)
posted 1 minute ago
Fergie inherited Mark Robins and Dion Dublin in a squad that drank 10 pints a night.
I'm no fan of the man but c'mon.
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Yes but you can’t apply to rule to Pochettino with Kane and not apply to other managers.
Every manager strikes gold with players from time to time. Every manager inherits duds, Holtby, Carroll, Fryers, naughton were all in his first 11 picked
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But all those managers have won the biggest prize in football at least twice... Poch couldn't win the league Cup.
You're comparing apples and oranfes snd God knows why as Poch has had a bang average management career.
If we are to get Poch back, and I don't know how to feel about it (kind of half happy and half feeling it'd be a heart over head appointment), then there better be more support in the transfer windows this time round. None of these half measures and no treating Poch like he's easier to please just because he isn't Conte. In fact Poch needs to be more demanding himself and get Baldy to pull his finger out. It should be a condition Poch has for taking the job.
comment by Robbing Hoody - At the end of a storm (U6374)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by BelfastSpur (U15068)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - At the end of a storm (U6374)
posted 1 minute ago
Fergie inherited Mark Robins and Dion Dublin in a squad that drank 10 pints a night.
I'm no fan of the man but c'mon.
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Yes but you can’t apply to rule to Pochettino with Kane and not apply to other managers.
Every manager strikes gold with players from time to time. Every manager inherits duds, Holtby, Carroll, Fryers, naughton were all in his first 11 picked
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But all those managers have won the biggest prize in football at least twice... Poch couldn't win the league Cup.
You're comparing apples and oranfes snd God knows why as Poch has had a bang average management career.
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We are going in circles here. I am not comparing Poch with any of them.
Just simply stating that all managers inherit good and bad players.
Pochettino has improved every club he has been at bar PSG. Where he done what Tuchel, Emery, Blanc done before him and won the league.
If he was to get a traditionally big club there is no doubt in my mind he would win trophies.
He has made relegation teams, mid table clubs. And a Europa league club a CL club.
comment by Robbing Hoody - At the end of a storm (U6374)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by BelfastSpur (U15068)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - At the end of a storm (U6374)
posted 1 minute ago
Fergie inherited Mark Robins and Dion Dublin in a squad that drank 10 pints a night.
I'm no fan of the man but c'mon.
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Yes but you can’t apply to rule to Pochettino with Kane and not apply to other managers.
Every manager strikes gold with players from time to time. Every manager inherits duds, Holtby, Carroll, Fryers, naughton were all in his first 11 picked
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But all those managers have won the biggest prize in football at least twice... Poch couldn't win the league Cup.
You're comparing apples and oranfes snd God knows why as Poch has had a bang average management career.
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I don't think Zidane even deserves to be in the company of Pep and Fergie yet. Only been managing for 5 years and even though he's won a lot in that time, it was at Real Madrid.
comment by GeniusGreaves (U1302)
posted 1 hour, 27 minutes ago
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 11 minutes ago
He would join us if it were offered, no doubt, but the rumour is that Ancelotti is leaving Real in the summer and Perez is still a huge Poch fan, despite his PSG experience. If it's a straight fight between the two clubs, we'll obviously lose. He'd go there in a heartbeat. Apparently it's either him or Tuchel for the Real job so if Levy wants his man, he's going to have to act fast and agree a deal now rather than wait until the summer. Levy will know what Conte's plans are by now so I'm sure if he is going, our next manager will already be agreed.
There was a pic Poch posted yesterday of his backroom staff and Steve Hitchen having a meal together in London. He's obviously settled here. Hopefully that swings things our way.
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Steve Hitchen left Spurs last year!
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I know. It was just a catch up with old mates. No representative from Spurs was there.
comment by Robbing Hoody - At the end of a storm (U6374)
posted 39 minutes ago
Top coaches get big jobs and win trophies.
There are numerous examples of coaches doing a good job at 2nd and 3rd tier clubs.
Personally I think he was exceptionally lucky to have Kane come through.
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And since you’re convoluting my words.
Go on and tell me which mangers done a good job at 2nd or 3rd tier jobs…
I don’t include domestic cups, well because Portsmouth and Wigan won those and it did sweet FA for the clubs or that manager. Only one I know of is Ranieri and Leicester.
comment by Robbing Hoody - At the end of a storm (U6374)
posted 19 seconds ago
Harry Redknapp
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He literally bankrupt Portsmouth for a tin pot.
He did not bankrupt Portsmouth ffs.
Brendan Rogers, Roberto Martinez and I really could go on.
I don't know why I'm bothering though, it's pretty clear you'll say anything.
So I’ll take your numerous examples as zilch
comment by Robbing Hoody - At the end of a storm (U6374)
posted 11 seconds ago
He did not bankrupt Portsmouth ffs.
Brendan Rogers, Roberto Martinez and I really could go on.
I don't know why I'm bothering though, it's pretty clear you'll say anything.
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Rodgers inherited a PL winning team and won an FA cup, massive kudos.
Martinez is a beacon of managerial intellect.
So yeah the two I already mentioned.
Like I said, zilch.
I've just named three
Rafa, Houllier, Pelligrini
comment by Robbing Hoody - At the end of a storm (U6374)
posted 11 seconds ago
I've just named three
Rafa, Houllier, Pelligrini
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You I listed you three, with two not that impressive imo.
It was you that stated numerous
And like I said the only time a 2nd or 3rd tier team exceeded all expectations was Ranieri and Leicester.
comment by Robbing Hoody - At the end of a storm (U6374)
posted 2 minutes ago
I've just named three
Rafa, Houllier, Pelligrini
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Rafa and Houllier managed Liverpool who with their size and reach are simply expected to win things.
You don't think Martinez, Houllier and Rafa exceeded expectations?
Martinez won the FA Cup with fvcking Wigan
Rafa won La Liga with Valencia and made Djime Traore a CL winner.
Houllier won a treble with Danny Milurphy in midfield.
As said, you'll say anything but I'm now also at the point where I don't think you'll know what you're talking about.
Have a nice day.
comment by Robbing Hoody - At the end of a storm (U6374)
posted 23 seconds ago
You don't think Martinez, Houllier and Rafa exceeded expectations?
Martinez won the FA Cup with fvcking Wigan
Rafa won La Liga with Valencia and made Djime Traore a CL winner.
Houllier won a treble with Danny Milurphy in midfield.
As said, you'll say anything but I'm now also at the point where I don't think you'll know what you're talking about.
Have a nice day.
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Good robbing
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 57 minutes ago
If we are to get Poch back, and I don't know how to feel about it (kind of half happy and half feeling it'd be a heart over head appointment), then there better be more support in the transfer windows this time round. None of these half measures and no treating Poch like he's easier to please just because he isn't Conte. In fact Poch needs to be more demanding himself and get Baldy to pull his finger out. It should be a condition Poch has for taking the job.
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Poch was a Levy Yes man. So nothing changes. Also if Poch were to return, both Davies and Dier would be signing new 5 year Contracts.
Need a complete change going forward.
Sandy, that’s down to Levy offering those contracts. Not Pochettino. Pochettino wanted “new furniture”, and he didn’t get it. Levy is to blame for the collapse of Pochettino’s Tottenham 100%
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posted on 14/2/23
You'll notice the ones you listed won the CL.
posted on 14/2/23
comment by Robbing Hoody - At the end of a storm (U6374)
posted 8 minutes ago
Top coaches get big jobs and win trophies.
There are numerous examples of coaches doing a good job at 2nd and 3rd tier clubs.
Personally I think he was exceptionally lucky to have Kane come through.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
And also on the Kane comment Robbing that could be applied to various managers with the players they ‘inherited’
Pep with his Barca team
Ancellotti with a few clubs
Fergie with class of 96
Fact is good managers make good players great
posted on 14/2/23
Please don't mention Poch in the same breath as Fergie, Zidane and Pep. It's laughable.
posted on 14/2/23
comment by Robbing Hoody - At the end of a storm (U6374)
posted 1 minute ago
You'll notice the ones you listed won the CL.
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Yeah that was precisely my point. They played for teams expected to be challenging for CL. And in their first posts went to said top clubs and done what was expected to challenge for the biggest trophies.
posted on 14/2/23
comment by Robbing Hoody - At the end of a storm (U6374)
posted 44 seconds ago
Please don't mention Poch in the same breath as Fergie, Zidane and Pep. It's laughable.
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I am not comparing Poch to any. Just saying they inherited many top players. But it is never used to lesser their achievements. Continue bending words.
posted on 14/2/23
Fergie inherited Mark Robins and Dion Dublin in a squad that drank 10 pints a night.
I'm no fan of the man but c'mon.
posted on 14/2/23
comment by Robbing Hoody - At the end of a storm (U6374)
posted 1 minute ago
Fergie inherited Mark Robins and Dion Dublin in a squad that drank 10 pints a night.
I'm no fan of the man but c'mon.
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Yes but you can’t apply to rule to Pochettino with Kane and not apply to other managers.
Every manager strikes gold with players from time to time. Every manager inherits duds, Holtby, Carroll, Fryers, naughton were all in his first 11 picked
posted on 14/2/23
comment by BelfastSpur (U15068)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - At the end of a storm (U6374)
posted 1 minute ago
Fergie inherited Mark Robins and Dion Dublin in a squad that drank 10 pints a night.
I'm no fan of the man but c'mon.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yes but you can’t apply to rule to Pochettino with Kane and not apply to other managers.
Every manager strikes gold with players from time to time. Every manager inherits duds, Holtby, Carroll, Fryers, naughton were all in his first 11 picked
----------------------------------------------------------------------
But all those managers have won the biggest prize in football at least twice... Poch couldn't win the league Cup.
You're comparing apples and oranfes snd God knows why as Poch has had a bang average management career.
posted on 14/2/23
If we are to get Poch back, and I don't know how to feel about it (kind of half happy and half feeling it'd be a heart over head appointment), then there better be more support in the transfer windows this time round. None of these half measures and no treating Poch like he's easier to please just because he isn't Conte. In fact Poch needs to be more demanding himself and get Baldy to pull his finger out. It should be a condition Poch has for taking the job.
posted on 14/2/23
comment by Robbing Hoody - At the end of a storm (U6374)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by BelfastSpur (U15068)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - At the end of a storm (U6374)
posted 1 minute ago
Fergie inherited Mark Robins and Dion Dublin in a squad that drank 10 pints a night.
I'm no fan of the man but c'mon.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yes but you can’t apply to rule to Pochettino with Kane and not apply to other managers.
Every manager strikes gold with players from time to time. Every manager inherits duds, Holtby, Carroll, Fryers, naughton were all in his first 11 picked
----------------------------------------------------------------------
But all those managers have won the biggest prize in football at least twice... Poch couldn't win the league Cup.
You're comparing apples and oranfes snd God knows why as Poch has had a bang average management career.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
We are going in circles here. I am not comparing Poch with any of them.
Just simply stating that all managers inherit good and bad players.
Pochettino has improved every club he has been at bar PSG. Where he done what Tuchel, Emery, Blanc done before him and won the league.
If he was to get a traditionally big club there is no doubt in my mind he would win trophies.
He has made relegation teams, mid table clubs. And a Europa league club a CL club.
posted on 14/2/23
comment by Robbing Hoody - At the end of a storm (U6374)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by BelfastSpur (U15068)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - At the end of a storm (U6374)
posted 1 minute ago
Fergie inherited Mark Robins and Dion Dublin in a squad that drank 10 pints a night.
I'm no fan of the man but c'mon.
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Yes but you can’t apply to rule to Pochettino with Kane and not apply to other managers.
Every manager strikes gold with players from time to time. Every manager inherits duds, Holtby, Carroll, Fryers, naughton were all in his first 11 picked
----------------------------------------------------------------------
But all those managers have won the biggest prize in football at least twice... Poch couldn't win the league Cup.
You're comparing apples and oranfes snd God knows why as Poch has had a bang average management career.
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I don't think Zidane even deserves to be in the company of Pep and Fergie yet. Only been managing for 5 years and even though he's won a lot in that time, it was at Real Madrid.
posted on 14/2/23
comment by GeniusGreaves (U1302)
posted 1 hour, 27 minutes ago
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 11 minutes ago
He would join us if it were offered, no doubt, but the rumour is that Ancelotti is leaving Real in the summer and Perez is still a huge Poch fan, despite his PSG experience. If it's a straight fight between the two clubs, we'll obviously lose. He'd go there in a heartbeat. Apparently it's either him or Tuchel for the Real job so if Levy wants his man, he's going to have to act fast and agree a deal now rather than wait until the summer. Levy will know what Conte's plans are by now so I'm sure if he is going, our next manager will already be agreed.
There was a pic Poch posted yesterday of his backroom staff and Steve Hitchen having a meal together in London. He's obviously settled here. Hopefully that swings things our way.
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Steve Hitchen left Spurs last year!
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I know. It was just a catch up with old mates. No representative from Spurs was there.
posted on 14/2/23
comment by Robbing Hoody - At the end of a storm (U6374)
posted 39 minutes ago
Top coaches get big jobs and win trophies.
There are numerous examples of coaches doing a good job at 2nd and 3rd tier clubs.
Personally I think he was exceptionally lucky to have Kane come through.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
And since you’re convoluting my words.
Go on and tell me which mangers done a good job at 2nd or 3rd tier jobs…
I don’t include domestic cups, well because Portsmouth and Wigan won those and it did sweet FA for the clubs or that manager. Only one I know of is Ranieri and Leicester.
posted on 14/2/23
Harry Redknapp
posted on 14/2/23
comment by Robbing Hoody - At the end of a storm (U6374)
posted 19 seconds ago
Harry Redknapp
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He literally bankrupt Portsmouth for a tin pot.
posted on 14/2/23
He did not bankrupt Portsmouth ffs.
Brendan Rogers, Roberto Martinez and I really could go on.
I don't know why I'm bothering though, it's pretty clear you'll say anything.
posted on 14/2/23
So I’ll take your numerous examples as zilch
posted on 14/2/23
comment by Robbing Hoody - At the end of a storm (U6374)
posted 11 seconds ago
He did not bankrupt Portsmouth ffs.
Brendan Rogers, Roberto Martinez and I really could go on.
I don't know why I'm bothering though, it's pretty clear you'll say anything.
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Rodgers inherited a PL winning team and won an FA cup, massive kudos.
Martinez is a beacon of managerial intellect.
So yeah the two I already mentioned.
Like I said, zilch.
posted on 14/2/23
I've just named three
Rafa, Houllier, Pelligrini
posted on 14/2/23
comment by Robbing Hoody - At the end of a storm (U6374)
posted 11 seconds ago
I've just named three
Rafa, Houllier, Pelligrini
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You I listed you three, with two not that impressive imo.
It was you that stated numerous
And like I said the only time a 2nd or 3rd tier team exceeded all expectations was Ranieri and Leicester.
posted on 14/2/23
comment by Robbing Hoody - At the end of a storm (U6374)
posted 2 minutes ago
I've just named three
Rafa, Houllier, Pelligrini
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Rafa and Houllier managed Liverpool who with their size and reach are simply expected to win things.
posted on 14/2/23
You don't think Martinez, Houllier and Rafa exceeded expectations?
Martinez won the FA Cup with fvcking Wigan
Rafa won La Liga with Valencia and made Djime Traore a CL winner.
Houllier won a treble with Danny Milurphy in midfield.
As said, you'll say anything but I'm now also at the point where I don't think you'll know what you're talking about.
Have a nice day.
posted on 14/2/23
comment by Robbing Hoody - At the end of a storm (U6374)
posted 23 seconds ago
You don't think Martinez, Houllier and Rafa exceeded expectations?
Martinez won the FA Cup with fvcking Wigan
Rafa won La Liga with Valencia and made Djime Traore a CL winner.
Houllier won a treble with Danny Milurphy in midfield.
As said, you'll say anything but I'm now also at the point where I don't think you'll know what you're talking about.
Have a nice day.
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Good robbing
posted on 14/2/23
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 57 minutes ago
If we are to get Poch back, and I don't know how to feel about it (kind of half happy and half feeling it'd be a heart over head appointment), then there better be more support in the transfer windows this time round. None of these half measures and no treating Poch like he's easier to please just because he isn't Conte. In fact Poch needs to be more demanding himself and get Baldy to pull his finger out. It should be a condition Poch has for taking the job.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Poch was a Levy Yes man. So nothing changes. Also if Poch were to return, both Davies and Dier would be signing new 5 year Contracts.
Need a complete change going forward.
posted on 14/2/23
Sandy, that’s down to Levy offering those contracts. Not Pochettino. Pochettino wanted “new furniture”, and he didn’t get it. Levy is to blame for the collapse of Pochettino’s Tottenham 100%
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