After his displays last year he would have been called up while at Blackburn .

But which other players will replace the current stars?

Barnes for Cole?

Parker for Barry?

Crouch up front?

The top clubs.have the top

Players so will always supply 90% of the squad

Baines, in my opinion, is now good enough to get a few games in the first team squad. I remember a few months ago seeing a boring England friendly that only really livened up when Baines was put on.

I wouldn't say Barry is a current star, I think there are a number of players that could do a better job than him that won't get a look in.

Fair enough, you don't see many England quality strikers in the lower teams because they are picked up by one of the big, rich teams as soon as they show an ounce of talent.
Though based on current form I'd say Leon Best has a good chance of being a top forward.

Players so will always supply 90% of the squad
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your right the big 4 clubs will supply 90% of squad but other players outside big 4 are not being consided when they should in the squad

Most countries select their national teams from few top clubs. As i said earlier playing in a better team make it easier for the manager to identify the player's skills and talents. Winning mentality is another reason for selecting players from top clubs. The players in top clubs are used to winning and hates loosing. It is an important physiological aspect when playing for the country.

All and all the selection procedure is not prefect but thats the nature of the beast. Its not Jone's or United's fault so articles like these are irrelevent and irrational

Winning mentality is another reason for selecting players from top clubs.


That's nothing to do with the club, it's to do with the player as shown by the determination players like Jones have despite being introduced to a mid table at best Blackburn side.

You're right it is the nature of the beast and not actually Man Utd's fault but it is the completely wrong way to go about things.
The reason this article has so many comments is that we tried to get this point across but some of your fellow fans have a problem with accepting deferring opinions.

Actually I hate printing this.Old Red Nose might have been a good manager for England,We have Capello I speaka no englise,Sven who was more active with the women than soccer.We as a nation are in dire straits.The sooner we get back to being english and taking friendly games as internationals and not starting pads for 30 players in one game,get some pride back and a good mix of seasoned international players and phase young lads as Jones in,in their correct positions and not at full back!

That's nothing to do with the club, it's to do with the player
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disagree on that. Youngsters will always be enthusiastic and determined but playing few seasons in a low to mid table team can make that winning mentality fade away.


it is the completely wrong way to go about things.
The reason this article has so many comments
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I havent read the thread but if anyone thinks the national team selection is perfect he is highly delusional. Having said that can you blame the selectors? Its not as easy as checking the attribute ratings in Fifa. mistakes can and will happen.

starrover
nice try but Fergie will never leave united. the English speaking manager thing is a myth imo. what went wrong with England is the selection of wrong tactics. If a player is not self motivated to play for his national team he should not be there the manager has nothing to do with it

comment by skinovers (U7390) posted 40 minutes ago

England will never win anything until england manager considers players from all premiar clubs it's so wrong

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Hart - City
Jones - United
Terry- Chelsea
Cahill -Bolton
Cole - Chelsea
Walcott -Arsenal
Barry- City
Parker- Spurs
Young - United
Bent- Villa
Rooney -United

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That is seven teams represented from 11 Players.

Plerase try and think, before you post.

What the national side (and every English side) needs is a higher class of coaching. We are desperately far behind in coaching the right way to play football because of the way the game is played in England. But look at Liverpool's academy; it has some brilliant young players coming through because they have employed some of the coaches who worked on the current Barca class.
The same goes with all the top academies in the Premiership; Man Utd, Everton, Arsenal, City and even Rovers all have top coaches and it shows with the players that have come through their ranks.

When the younger England teams and all the English academies have top class coaches, that's when we'll start to catch up with the best.

I still feel we must have a British manager(English if possible) as its all about tactics and coaching I dont go with this foreigner stuff,they are not better.Looking back over the years when Liverpool ruled Europe for almost a decade the staff al Pool got it more or less spot on never saying they are better than us.Just going out and doing the stuff week in week out.

SKA - Back from the dead. (U3522)

Spot on mate. At the moment its about big kids bullying out a win. Football at present is much more technical and much less physical. PL teams should hire coaches who are used to modern continental football.

starrover

different times, different styles

I will never change my opinion .When I see an England team that plays at wembley against a mediocre team and Capello plays about 30 different players and we end up drawing or losing it cuts me to the quick.All this guff about they cant play more than 30/40 minutes ,god there are footballers that would give an arm and a leg to play for their land!

starrover

You answered your question there. Problem is Capello. He is inept at modern football. FA hiring a tactical dinosaur is no reason to reject everything continental. What England team needs is a master tactician.

That rules Harry Redknapp out, maybe now he'll stop touting himself for the job.

I am not against Contintal things!Manchester City have a wonderful team now.I just think we have had two coaches who are inept and inadequate,being there just for the cash that our FA was stupid enough to dole out.

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A master tactician isn't going to be able to do anything with the likes of Barry, Lampard, Gerrard, Milner and Parker.

Gerrard just wanders off wherever he feels like totally disregarding the knock on effect to the team's balance and shape.

That rules Harry Redknapp out
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exactly, he was a bit naive in CL last season and he will be badly exposed against top teams. Im not saying FA should hire a foreign manager. I like to see them do more research and look into all available option than sit back and allow media to select one from the usual suspects

The problem with our national team is they're a bunch of individuals. They need a strong presence in the dressing room to instil discipline and a sense of team spirit in them.

We also need to get rid of the club > country mentality.

That is seven teams represented from 11 Players.

Plerase try and think, before you post.
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not you again i'm not interested in your biased opinion and them players only bent & cahill are not from a big club

Does anyone watch the U21'S and U18's?

A master tactician isn't going to be able to do anything with the likes of Barry, Lampard, Gerrard, Milner and Parker.


Gerrard just wanders off wherever he feels like totally disregarding the knock on effect to the team's balance and shape.
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all of the above are talented footballers(maybe not Milner). The problem is one cant expect them to play in a different role than they used to. A good tactician will be able to develop a system to play to their strengths. Even a manager with very little tactical knowledge can understand Lampard, Gerrard and Rooney cant function in the same team, which is the reason for England's downfall recently.

We also need to get rid of the club > country mentality.
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easier said than done. not a necessity as well. club > country mentality is even stronger in spain but that didnt stop them from winning everything

Spain certainly have something that the English side doesn't (not counting technical ability) because they play together like they've been in the same team for years. Any player that gets in to the first 11 instantly fits in.

agree. same goes for Germany. I think its because They have a philosophy on how football should be played and have a solid development system for youngsters. youngsters were bought up in a similar system so they can fit in seamlessly