12 tough games left in the league plus half as many potentially left in EL could be taxing on players. However if fitness and form isn’t affected then why the heck now.
Saka does tend to struggle away from home
Yeah I'm not remotely fussed about the Europa, in fact going out now would be my preference.
Opportunities to the win the league don't and likely won't come around very often.
*Europa would be a nice thing to win don't get me wrong but this season there's far bigger fish to fry
comment by Two Balls, One Saka (U19684)
posted 9 minutes ago
Yeah I'm not remotely fussed about the Europa, in fact going out now would be my preference.
Opportunities to the win the league don't and likely won't come around very often.
*Europa would be a nice thing to win don't get me wrong but this season there's far bigger fish to fry
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I agree, all we are doing is lessening our chances of winning the big one through fatigue - we should have put the kids out.
Fulham away is likely to be a very tough game, they will be fresh & ready...👀
It's my biggest issue with Arteta his over use of certain players is frustrating it will harm our chances of winning the league.
We are going to have to put in a very good display in terms of keeping the ball especially as the game goes on they are going to be in better condition than we are. If we are chasing the game again are we gonna be able claw it back, not sure this time.
Would love us to win the Europa league if im honest. We made 6 changes plus we had Eddie, Jesus and Trossard injury so i think we should have the depth to go far.
Only player i wouldnt play would be Partey.
comment by BO$$™ (U6401)
posted 40 minutes ago
Would love us to win the Europa league if im honest. We made 6 changes plus we had Eddie, Jesus and Trossard injury so i think we should have the depth to go far.
Only player i wouldnt play would be Partey.
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Saka has to be rested next Europa game
United v Arsenal final? Tasty.
I'd love for us to win it and if we can't handle being in two competitions at the same time then why on earth do we care about getting back into the Champions League?
Arteta has spoken a lot about players having to play twice a week and keep their level high if they want to be considered amongst the best in the world. This is a challenge to the likes of Saka and Martinelli.
comment by Emile Death Rowe (TCM) (U8959)
posted 3 hours, 10 minutes ago
I'd love for us to win it and if we can't handle being in two competitions at the same time then why on earth do we care about getting back into the Champions League?
Arteta has spoken a lot about players having to play twice a week and keep their level high if they want to be considered amongst the best in the world. This is a challenge to the likes of Saka and Martinelli.
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This.
Players need to be able to cope playing 2 games a week otherwise whats the point playing CL football.
However, would have taken Martinelli and Saka off around 65/70 mins
comment by Emile Death Rowe (TCM) (U8959)
posted 6 hours, 38 minutes ago
I'd love for us to win it and if we can't handle being in two competitions at the same time then why on earth do we care about getting back into the Champions League?
Arteta has spoken a lot about players having to play twice a week and keep their level high if they want to be considered amongst the best in the world. This is a challenge to the likes of Saka and Martinelli.
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If you qualify in the summer for the Champions League then you have two top competitions to play in & you have more money to increase the depth of the squad - it’s also easier to get these players that you want because playing Champions League is a prerequisite for them coming. Surely this is all obvious.🤷🏻♂️
Arteta has talked about being able to play every 3 days continually but unless you have the squad depth it doesn’t work. Frankly it’s just b0||0cks & he’s come unstuck with it before. It’s a bit like King Canute commanding the tide not to come in - all you do is end up trying to squeak wins with high quality players who are not quite at their best. 🤦🏻♂️
I should also added that by continually playing every 3 days you significantly increase your chances of injury - the whole idea is bonkers - I’d be interested to see the stats in teams’ results after playing a competitive midweek game whilst the opposition is fresh, I suspect it will make the point.
Definitely not bothered by Europa. The very idea of compromising our league campaign for the Europa league makes me sick.
With the injuries we have we don't have depth for both. City are playing in 3rd gear, and won't be under pressure until perhaps the CL quarters when things get tasty.
I'm surprised at how many people want us to sack off the Europa this early on. I mean, I understand it to a degree, but I don't think this should be the mindset. Winning games breeds more winning. If we can't handle playing in 2 competitions, then like Arteta said, what's the point? These players need to be conditioned to play every 3/4 days.
Also, there are 12 league games to go, which is significant, so there are no guarantees we are going to win the title yet. We should still be looking to take the Europa seriously as we are one of the favourites to win it and it is still early doors in the competition.
Given how well we've played for most of the season, it would be incredibly frustrating to get KO'd from the Europa early and then not win the league also.
We need to continue taking both competitions seriously.
comment by Samir (U2630)
posted 6 hours, 39 minutes ago
I'm surprised at how many people want us to sack off the Europa this early on. I mean, I understand it to a degree, but I don't think this should be the mindset. Winning games breeds more winning. If we can't handle playing in 2 competitions, then like Arteta said, what's the point? These players need to be conditioned to play every 3/4 days.
Also, there are 12 league games to go, which is significant, so there are no guarantees we are going to win the title yet. We should still be looking to take the Europa seriously as we are one of the favourites to win it and it is still early doors in the competition.
Given how well we've played for most of the season, it would be incredibly frustrating to get KO'd from the Europa early and then not win the league also.
We need to continue taking both competitions seriously.
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We don't have the depth in key areas though and the Europa isn't worth anything unless you win it which will be incredibly difficult to do with our squad depth and the league to play for
I can't see us winning both. At the moment the players are barely getting us over the line in league games and the slog will only get harder.
comment by Two Balls, One Saka (U19684)
posted 20 hours, 14 minutes ago
comment by Samir (U2630)
posted 6 hours, 39 minutes ago
I'm surprised at how many people want us to sack off the Europa this early on. I mean, I understand it to a degree, but I don't think this should be the mindset. Winning games breeds more winning. If we can't handle playing in 2 competitions, then like Arteta said, what's the point? These players need to be conditioned to play every 3/4 days.
Also, there are 12 league games to go, which is significant, so there are no guarantees we are going to win the title yet. We should still be looking to take the Europa seriously as we are one of the favourites to win it and it is still early doors in the competition.
Given how well we've played for most of the season, it would be incredibly frustrating to get KO'd from the Europa early and then not win the league also.
We need to continue taking both competitions seriously.
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We don't have the depth in key areas though and the Europa isn't worth anything unless you win it which will be incredibly difficult to do with our squad depth and the league to play for
I can't see us winning both. At the moment the players are barely getting us over the line in league games and the slog will only get harder.
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I disagree and the performance today against Fulham, off the back of a hard-fought 2-2 draw away in Portugal, is testament to that. We had a very strong bench and showed no signs of fatigue today. We've got good rotational options.
We could do with better depth in midfield, sure, but we have enough to keep us going. One good thing about a lot of our players is their versatility and adaptability to different positions and game-states.
I think the mindset has to be to aim for both. We may not do it, but it's important to keep momentum going.
comment by Samir (U2630)
posted 5 hours, 42 minutes ago
comment by Two Balls, One Saka (U19684)
posted 20 hours, 14 minutes ago
comment by Samir (U2630)
posted 6 hours, 39 minutes ago
I'm surprised at how many people want us to sack off the Europa this early on. I mean, I understand it to a degree, but I don't think this should be the mindset. Winning games breeds more winning. If we can't handle playing in 2 competitions, then like Arteta said, what's the point? These players need to be conditioned to play every 3/4 days.
Also, there are 12 league games to go, which is significant, so there are no guarantees we are going to win the title yet. We should still be looking to take the Europa seriously as we are one of the favourites to win it and it is still early doors in the competition.
Given how well we've played for most of the season, it would be incredibly frustrating to get KO'd from the Europa early and then not win the league also.
We need to continue taking both competitions seriously.
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We don't have the depth in key areas though and the Europa isn't worth anything unless you win it which will be incredibly difficult to do with our squad depth and the league to play for
I can't see us winning both. At the moment the players are barely getting us over the line in league games and the slog will only get harder.
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I disagree and the performance today against Fulham, off the back of a hard-fought 2-2 draw away in Portugal, is testament to that. We had a very strong bench and showed no signs of fatigue today. We've got good rotational options.
We could do with better depth in midfield, sure, but we have enough to keep us going. One good thing about a lot of our players is their versatility and adaptability to different positions and game-states.
I think the mindset has to be to aim for both. We may not do it, but it's important to keep momentum going.
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After today's result it's easy to say that and if we'd struggled it would've been easy to say I was right. For what it's worth you may well be correct but I just don't see it, remember the collapse at the end to last season?
It's pessimistic but imagine 5 years from now looking back and would anyone think much of a season where we won the Europa but fell apart at the last hurdle in the league due to fatigue. Come next season with the CL yes go for it in Europe but one of the best things about the Europa is CL qualification. It's great to win any trophy obviously but the Europa really isn't much of anything until the final or at best semis.
We have a chance at the Prem this year, it could be a once in a decade chance for all we know
comment by Two Balls, One Saka (U19684)
posted 12 hours, 11 minutes ago
comment by Samir (U2630)
posted 5 hours, 42 minutes ago
comment by Two Balls, One Saka (U19684)
posted 20 hours, 14 minutes ago
comment by Samir (U2630)
posted 6 hours, 39 minutes ago
I'm surprised at how many people want us to sack off the Europa this early on. I mean, I understand it to a degree, but I don't think this should be the mindset. Winning games breeds more winning. If we can't handle playing in 2 competitions, then like Arteta said, what's the point? These players need to be conditioned to play every 3/4 days.
Also, there are 12 league games to go, which is significant, so there are no guarantees we are going to win the title yet. We should still be looking to take the Europa seriously as we are one of the favourites to win it and it is still early doors in the competition.
Given how well we've played for most of the season, it would be incredibly frustrating to get KO'd from the Europa early and then not win the league also.
We need to continue taking both competitions seriously.
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We don't have the depth in key areas though and the Europa isn't worth anything unless you win it which will be incredibly difficult to do with our squad depth and the league to play for
I can't see us winning both. At the moment the players are barely getting us over the line in league games and the slog will only get harder.
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I disagree and the performance today against Fulham, off the back of a hard-fought 2-2 draw away in Portugal, is testament to that. We had a very strong bench and showed no signs of fatigue today. We've got good rotational options.
We could do with better depth in midfield, sure, but we have enough to keep us going. One good thing about a lot of our players is their versatility and adaptability to different positions and game-states.
I think the mindset has to be to aim for both. We may not do it, but it's important to keep momentum going.
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After today's result it's easy to say that and if we'd struggled it would've been easy to say I was right. For what it's worth you may well be correct but I just don't see it, remember the collapse at the end to last season?
It's pessimistic but imagine 5 years from now looking back and would anyone think much of a season where we won the Europa but fell apart at the last hurdle in the league due to fatigue. Come next season with the CL yes go for it in Europe but one of the best things about the Europa is CL qualification. It's great to win any trophy obviously but the Europa really isn't much of anything until the final or at best semis.
We have a chance at the Prem this year, it could be a once in a decade chance for all we know
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As soon as I saw we had Trossard and Jesus back, I was under no doubts that we were going to win the game. Which re-emphasises my belief in the squad that we have when everyone is fit and, barring Nketiah and Elneny (the latter of whom isn't a vital component of the team), I think we have an almost fully fit squad back.
The Europa League is an opportunity for us to get hands on some European silverware - something we haven't done since 1994. We've not even won a UEFA Cup, let alone a Champions League. And we are one of the favourites to win it, so we should be looking to take it seriously.
Obviously, the league is the priority and if we were to get more injuries across the squad, then of course we would need to be more careful with how we manage our players. But we've coped so well this far and now we seem to be getting more players back from injury (touch wood), it's important to try and maintain this culture of winning.
If we don't win the league, fatigue can not and should not be used as the reason. When you look at some of the top players in Europe and how many minutes they've played compared to ours, there's no comparison. If we can't handle playing in two competitions, then next season, when there will be less rotation with CL football, how are we going to handle that?
I think you're underestimating our squad depth IMO.
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posted on 9/3/23
12 tough games left in the league plus half as many potentially left in EL could be taxing on players. However if fitness and form isn’t affected then why the heck now.
posted on 9/3/23
Saka does tend to struggle away from home
posted on 9/3/23
Yeah I'm not remotely fussed about the Europa, in fact going out now would be my preference.
Opportunities to the win the league don't and likely won't come around very often.
*Europa would be a nice thing to win don't get me wrong but this season there's far bigger fish to fry
posted on 9/3/23
comment by Two Balls, One Saka (U19684)
posted 9 minutes ago
Yeah I'm not remotely fussed about the Europa, in fact going out now would be my preference.
Opportunities to the win the league don't and likely won't come around very often.
*Europa would be a nice thing to win don't get me wrong but this season there's far bigger fish to fry
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I agree, all we are doing is lessening our chances of winning the big one through fatigue - we should have put the kids out.
Fulham away is likely to be a very tough game, they will be fresh & ready...👀
posted on 9/3/23
It's my biggest issue with Arteta his over use of certain players is frustrating it will harm our chances of winning the league.
We are going to have to put in a very good display in terms of keeping the ball especially as the game goes on they are going to be in better condition than we are. If we are chasing the game again are we gonna be able claw it back, not sure this time.
posted on 9/3/23
Would love us to win the Europa league if im honest. We made 6 changes plus we had Eddie, Jesus and Trossard injury so i think we should have the depth to go far.
Only player i wouldnt play would be Partey.
posted on 9/3/23
comment by BO$$™ (U6401)
posted 40 minutes ago
Would love us to win the Europa league if im honest. We made 6 changes plus we had Eddie, Jesus and Trossard injury so i think we should have the depth to go far.
Only player i wouldnt play would be Partey.
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Saka has to be rested next Europa game
posted on 10/3/23
United v Arsenal final? Tasty.
posted on 10/3/23
I'd love for us to win it and if we can't handle being in two competitions at the same time then why on earth do we care about getting back into the Champions League?
Arteta has spoken a lot about players having to play twice a week and keep their level high if they want to be considered amongst the best in the world. This is a challenge to the likes of Saka and Martinelli.
posted on 10/3/23
comment by Emile Death Rowe (TCM) (U8959)
posted 3 hours, 10 minutes ago
I'd love for us to win it and if we can't handle being in two competitions at the same time then why on earth do we care about getting back into the Champions League?
Arteta has spoken a lot about players having to play twice a week and keep their level high if they want to be considered amongst the best in the world. This is a challenge to the likes of Saka and Martinelli.
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This.
posted on 10/3/23
Players need to be able to cope playing 2 games a week otherwise whats the point playing CL football.
However, would have taken Martinelli and Saka off around 65/70 mins
posted on 10/3/23
comment by Emile Death Rowe (TCM) (U8959)
posted 6 hours, 38 minutes ago
I'd love for us to win it and if we can't handle being in two competitions at the same time then why on earth do we care about getting back into the Champions League?
Arteta has spoken a lot about players having to play twice a week and keep their level high if they want to be considered amongst the best in the world. This is a challenge to the likes of Saka and Martinelli.
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If you qualify in the summer for the Champions League then you have two top competitions to play in & you have more money to increase the depth of the squad - it’s also easier to get these players that you want because playing Champions League is a prerequisite for them coming. Surely this is all obvious.🤷🏻♂️
Arteta has talked about being able to play every 3 days continually but unless you have the squad depth it doesn’t work. Frankly it’s just b0||0cks & he’s come unstuck with it before. It’s a bit like King Canute commanding the tide not to come in - all you do is end up trying to squeak wins with high quality players who are not quite at their best. 🤦🏻♂️
posted on 10/3/23
I should also added that by continually playing every 3 days you significantly increase your chances of injury - the whole idea is bonkers - I’d be interested to see the stats in teams’ results after playing a competitive midweek game whilst the opposition is fresh, I suspect it will make the point.
posted on 10/3/23
Definitely not bothered by Europa. The very idea of compromising our league campaign for the Europa league makes me sick.
With the injuries we have we don't have depth for both. City are playing in 3rd gear, and won't be under pressure until perhaps the CL quarters when things get tasty.
posted on 11/3/23
I'm surprised at how many people want us to sack off the Europa this early on. I mean, I understand it to a degree, but I don't think this should be the mindset. Winning games breeds more winning. If we can't handle playing in 2 competitions, then like Arteta said, what's the point? These players need to be conditioned to play every 3/4 days.
Also, there are 12 league games to go, which is significant, so there are no guarantees we are going to win the title yet. We should still be looking to take the Europa seriously as we are one of the favourites to win it and it is still early doors in the competition.
Given how well we've played for most of the season, it would be incredibly frustrating to get KO'd from the Europa early and then not win the league also.
We need to continue taking both competitions seriously.
posted on 11/3/23
comment by Samir (U2630)
posted 6 hours, 39 minutes ago
I'm surprised at how many people want us to sack off the Europa this early on. I mean, I understand it to a degree, but I don't think this should be the mindset. Winning games breeds more winning. If we can't handle playing in 2 competitions, then like Arteta said, what's the point? These players need to be conditioned to play every 3/4 days.
Also, there are 12 league games to go, which is significant, so there are no guarantees we are going to win the title yet. We should still be looking to take the Europa seriously as we are one of the favourites to win it and it is still early doors in the competition.
Given how well we've played for most of the season, it would be incredibly frustrating to get KO'd from the Europa early and then not win the league also.
We need to continue taking both competitions seriously.
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We don't have the depth in key areas though and the Europa isn't worth anything unless you win it which will be incredibly difficult to do with our squad depth and the league to play for
I can't see us winning both. At the moment the players are barely getting us over the line in league games and the slog will only get harder.
posted on 12/3/23
comment by Two Balls, One Saka (U19684)
posted 20 hours, 14 minutes ago
comment by Samir (U2630)
posted 6 hours, 39 minutes ago
I'm surprised at how many people want us to sack off the Europa this early on. I mean, I understand it to a degree, but I don't think this should be the mindset. Winning games breeds more winning. If we can't handle playing in 2 competitions, then like Arteta said, what's the point? These players need to be conditioned to play every 3/4 days.
Also, there are 12 league games to go, which is significant, so there are no guarantees we are going to win the title yet. We should still be looking to take the Europa seriously as we are one of the favourites to win it and it is still early doors in the competition.
Given how well we've played for most of the season, it would be incredibly frustrating to get KO'd from the Europa early and then not win the league also.
We need to continue taking both competitions seriously.
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We don't have the depth in key areas though and the Europa isn't worth anything unless you win it which will be incredibly difficult to do with our squad depth and the league to play for
I can't see us winning both. At the moment the players are barely getting us over the line in league games and the slog will only get harder.
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I disagree and the performance today against Fulham, off the back of a hard-fought 2-2 draw away in Portugal, is testament to that. We had a very strong bench and showed no signs of fatigue today. We've got good rotational options.
We could do with better depth in midfield, sure, but we have enough to keep us going. One good thing about a lot of our players is their versatility and adaptability to different positions and game-states.
I think the mindset has to be to aim for both. We may not do it, but it's important to keep momentum going.
posted on 13/3/23
comment by Samir (U2630)
posted 5 hours, 42 minutes ago
comment by Two Balls, One Saka (U19684)
posted 20 hours, 14 minutes ago
comment by Samir (U2630)
posted 6 hours, 39 minutes ago
I'm surprised at how many people want us to sack off the Europa this early on. I mean, I understand it to a degree, but I don't think this should be the mindset. Winning games breeds more winning. If we can't handle playing in 2 competitions, then like Arteta said, what's the point? These players need to be conditioned to play every 3/4 days.
Also, there are 12 league games to go, which is significant, so there are no guarantees we are going to win the title yet. We should still be looking to take the Europa seriously as we are one of the favourites to win it and it is still early doors in the competition.
Given how well we've played for most of the season, it would be incredibly frustrating to get KO'd from the Europa early and then not win the league also.
We need to continue taking both competitions seriously.
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We don't have the depth in key areas though and the Europa isn't worth anything unless you win it which will be incredibly difficult to do with our squad depth and the league to play for
I can't see us winning both. At the moment the players are barely getting us over the line in league games and the slog will only get harder.
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I disagree and the performance today against Fulham, off the back of a hard-fought 2-2 draw away in Portugal, is testament to that. We had a very strong bench and showed no signs of fatigue today. We've got good rotational options.
We could do with better depth in midfield, sure, but we have enough to keep us going. One good thing about a lot of our players is their versatility and adaptability to different positions and game-states.
I think the mindset has to be to aim for both. We may not do it, but it's important to keep momentum going.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
After today's result it's easy to say that and if we'd struggled it would've been easy to say I was right. For what it's worth you may well be correct but I just don't see it, remember the collapse at the end to last season?
It's pessimistic but imagine 5 years from now looking back and would anyone think much of a season where we won the Europa but fell apart at the last hurdle in the league due to fatigue. Come next season with the CL yes go for it in Europe but one of the best things about the Europa is CL qualification. It's great to win any trophy obviously but the Europa really isn't much of anything until the final or at best semis.
We have a chance at the Prem this year, it could be a once in a decade chance for all we know
posted on 13/3/23
comment by Two Balls, One Saka (U19684)
posted 12 hours, 11 minutes ago
comment by Samir (U2630)
posted 5 hours, 42 minutes ago
comment by Two Balls, One Saka (U19684)
posted 20 hours, 14 minutes ago
comment by Samir (U2630)
posted 6 hours, 39 minutes ago
I'm surprised at how many people want us to sack off the Europa this early on. I mean, I understand it to a degree, but I don't think this should be the mindset. Winning games breeds more winning. If we can't handle playing in 2 competitions, then like Arteta said, what's the point? These players need to be conditioned to play every 3/4 days.
Also, there are 12 league games to go, which is significant, so there are no guarantees we are going to win the title yet. We should still be looking to take the Europa seriously as we are one of the favourites to win it and it is still early doors in the competition.
Given how well we've played for most of the season, it would be incredibly frustrating to get KO'd from the Europa early and then not win the league also.
We need to continue taking both competitions seriously.
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We don't have the depth in key areas though and the Europa isn't worth anything unless you win it which will be incredibly difficult to do with our squad depth and the league to play for
I can't see us winning both. At the moment the players are barely getting us over the line in league games and the slog will only get harder.
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I disagree and the performance today against Fulham, off the back of a hard-fought 2-2 draw away in Portugal, is testament to that. We had a very strong bench and showed no signs of fatigue today. We've got good rotational options.
We could do with better depth in midfield, sure, but we have enough to keep us going. One good thing about a lot of our players is their versatility and adaptability to different positions and game-states.
I think the mindset has to be to aim for both. We may not do it, but it's important to keep momentum going.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
After today's result it's easy to say that and if we'd struggled it would've been easy to say I was right. For what it's worth you may well be correct but I just don't see it, remember the collapse at the end to last season?
It's pessimistic but imagine 5 years from now looking back and would anyone think much of a season where we won the Europa but fell apart at the last hurdle in the league due to fatigue. Come next season with the CL yes go for it in Europe but one of the best things about the Europa is CL qualification. It's great to win any trophy obviously but the Europa really isn't much of anything until the final or at best semis.
We have a chance at the Prem this year, it could be a once in a decade chance for all we know
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As soon as I saw we had Trossard and Jesus back, I was under no doubts that we were going to win the game. Which re-emphasises my belief in the squad that we have when everyone is fit and, barring Nketiah and Elneny (the latter of whom isn't a vital component of the team), I think we have an almost fully fit squad back.
The Europa League is an opportunity for us to get hands on some European silverware - something we haven't done since 1994. We've not even won a UEFA Cup, let alone a Champions League. And we are one of the favourites to win it, so we should be looking to take it seriously.
Obviously, the league is the priority and if we were to get more injuries across the squad, then of course we would need to be more careful with how we manage our players. But we've coped so well this far and now we seem to be getting more players back from injury (touch wood), it's important to try and maintain this culture of winning.
If we don't win the league, fatigue can not and should not be used as the reason. When you look at some of the top players in Europe and how many minutes they've played compared to ours, there's no comparison. If we can't handle playing in two competitions, then next season, when there will be less rotation with CL football, how are we going to handle that?
I think you're underestimating our squad depth IMO.
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