Apparently there’s no fee in the summer. But there is a fee now. Say no more.
This is why he won’t come:
“Joe Lewis didn’t get rich by being nice or paternalistic and is not actively engaged with the club. Levy shapes the strategy. If Lewis wasn’t happy with what Levy is doing, he’d have fired him by now. Lewis is never questioned and at the same time he never questions Levy. Levy has not lost his job, Mauricio Pochettino has, José Mourinho has, Conte has.
“Culture eats the best managers in the world for breakfast.”
I’m sure Julian doesn’t want to be in the latest Tottenham fry up
comment by Striketeam7 - the smartest person you know - B... (U18109)
posted 1 minute ago
This is why he won’t come:
“Joe Lewis didn’t get rich by being nice or paternalistic and is not actively engaged with the club. Levy shapes the strategy. If Lewis wasn’t happy with what Levy is doing, he’d have fired him by now. Lewis is never questioned and at the same time he never questions Levy. Levy has not lost his job, Mauricio Pochettino has, José Mourinho has, Conte has.
“Culture eats the best managers in the world for breakfast.”
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The mans just been sacked from Bayern. Is that due to Levy and Lewis?
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 34 seconds ago
comment by Striketeam7 - the smartest person you know - B... (U18109)
posted 1 minute ago
This is why he won’t come:
“Joe Lewis didn’t get rich by being nice or paternalistic and is not actively engaged with the club. Levy shapes the strategy. If Lewis wasn’t happy with what Levy is doing, he’d have fired him by now. Lewis is never questioned and at the same time he never questions Levy. Levy has not lost his job, Mauricio Pochettino has, José Mourinho has, Conte has.
“Culture eats the best managers in the world for breakfast.”
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The mans just been sacked from Bayern. Is that due to Levy and Lewis?
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I’m surprised Bayern got rid of him if I’m honest , didn’t see that one coming.
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - the smartest person you know - B... (U18109)
posted 1 minute ago
This is why he won’t come:
“Joe Lewis didn’t get rich by being nice or paternalistic and is not actively engaged with the club. Levy shapes the strategy. If Lewis wasn’t happy with what Levy is doing, he’d have fired him by now. Lewis is never questioned and at the same time he never questions Levy. Levy has not lost his job, Mauricio Pochettino has, José Mourinho has, Conte has.
“Culture eats the best managers in the world for breakfast.”
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The mans just been sacked from Bayern. Is that due to Levy and Lewis?
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Devonshire you should read that Times article - they interviewed a Sports scientist and strategist who worked at Tottenham and he basically laid out everywhere we are going wrong in terms of attaining success.
If you don’t want to read it I understand, as it goes against everything you believe
Simon Chadwick, professor of sport and geopolitical economy at the Skema Business School is well-placed to offer an explanation. Chadwick has spent a good deal of time in the Tottenham nerve centre, having worked with the club on a British Council project establishing links with China and Thailand.
“Inside that office building are people who have been to very good universities and business schools and worked across different sectors,” he says. “In other clubs those people would be sitting inside the stadium, looking out over the pitch and they would never forget why they were there. Those people are making the decisions and they are doing it in a building that isn’t even inside the stadium.”
“There is a fundamental misalignment between what people think the club should be doing and what they are doing,” Chadwick says.
The club cannot decide what they stand for, according to Chadwick, and are being pulled in three directions.
“Spurs were established as a community-based club with a reputation for playing football in a particular, attractive way,” he says. “It was one of the first clubs to float on the London Stock Exchange and that instigated a process of cultural transformation in the 1980s into the 1990s to become about controlling costs and making it a project.
“The Enic ownership — which has an 85.55 per cent stake in the club — means Spurs are not the most important asset for an owner — in this instance Joe Lewis — but one of a number of assets. The DNA of the club becomes further diminished by this. So by the early 2000s you have a process of transformation, a club with a culture juxtaposed with a short-termism.
I think a lot of this comes down to how we get on in the next 3 or 4 games. If Stellini and Mason don't get the required results and top 4 starts to look more remote we are left in a really tough spot. Totally understand JN wanting to take a break (He's probably getting paid to be on holiday) and coming to spurs now, with the Spurs main objective (top 4) in jeopardy just feels like he's inheriting someone elses problem.
All of that is before you add the Kane dilemma into the mix.
Personally, don't think we'll get top 4. I can't see JN effectively taking a step down to a club, not in CL, no history of winning, with a chairman who's tough to work for and to club that might lose its most talismanic player.
I think we'll end up with manager who's either looking to take a step up (Amorim) or perhaps someone looking to rebuild his reputation (Enrique)
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posted 1 minute ago
Simon Chadwick, professor of sport and geopolitical economy at the Skema Business School is well-placed to offer an explanation. Chadwick has spent a good deal of time in the Tottenham nerve centre, having worked with the club on a British Council project establishing links with China and Thailand.
“Inside that office building are people who have been to very good universities and business schools and worked across different sectors,” he says. “In other clubs those people would be sitting inside the stadium, looking out over the pitch and they would never forget why they were there. Those people are making the decisions and they are doing it in a building that isn’t even inside the stadium.”
“There is a fundamental misalignment between what people think the club should be doing and what they are doing,” Chadwick says.
The club cannot decide what they stand for, according to Chadwick, and are being pulled in three directions.
“Spurs were established as a community-based club with a reputation for playing football in a particular, attractive way,” he says. “It was one of the first clubs to float on the London Stock Exchange and that instigated a process of cultural transformation in the 1980s into the 1990s to become about controlling costs and making it a project.
“The Enic ownership — which has an 85.55 per cent stake in the club — means Spurs are not the most important asset for an owner — in this instance Joe Lewis — but one of a number of assets. The DNA of the club becomes further diminished by this. So by the early 2000s you have a process of transformation, a club with a culture juxtaposed with a short-termism.
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Dont think you need to be a professor of sport and geopolitical economy at the Skema Business School...... I could have told you all that
Let’s hope that Julian doesn’t read the Times otherwise it be a firm no.
I will put my prediction balls on the line and say Nagelsmann won’t be our next manager and neither will Poch - so if we don’t land Amorim or Slot then bald khunt has faaaacked it again and it honestly won’t be worth watching.
I will still watch of course as I am a loyal customer, however I won’t entertain any dreams or hopes that we might win a trophy and will instead just hope that I get to see a decent game every now and again
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comment by Striketeam7 - the smartest person you know - Bronze medal khunt 2022 - Buy..Bellingham and another mid 20s Thiago type...lets just call him "frank" (U18109)
posted 1 minute ago
Simon Chadwick, professor of sport and geopolitical economy at the Skema Business School is well-placed to offer an explanation. Chadwick has spent a good deal of time in the Tottenham nerve centre, having worked with the club on a British Council project establishing links with China and Thailand.
“Inside that office building are people who have been to very good universities and business schools and worked across different sectors,” he says. “In other clubs those people would be sitting inside the stadium, looking out over the pitch and they would never forget why they were there. Those people are making the decisions and they are doing it in a building that isn’t even inside the stadium.”
“There is a fundamental misalignment between what people think the club should be doing and what they are doing,” Chadwick says.
The club cannot decide what they stand for, according to Chadwick, and are being pulled in three directions.
“Spurs were established as a community-based club with a reputation for playing football in a particular, attractive way,” he says. “It was one of the first clubs to float on the London Stock Exchange and that instigated a process of cultural transformation in the 1980s into the 1990s to become about controlling costs and making it a project.
“The Enic ownership — which has an 85.55 per cent stake in the club — means Spurs are not the most important asset for an owner — in this instance Joe Lewis — but one of a number of assets. The DNA of the club becomes further diminished by this. So by the early 2000s you have a process of transformation, a club with a culture juxtaposed with a short-termism.
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Dont think you need to be a professor of sport and geopolitical economy at the Skema Business School...... I could have told you all that
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I just don’t get:
A) why some of our customers are so passive about this
B) why some of our customers like Devon still defend the bald khunt ?
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posted 26 seconds ago
Let’s hope that Julian doesn’t read the Times otherwise it be a firm no.
I will put my prediction balls on the line and say Nagelsmann won’t be our next manager and neither will Poch - so if we don’t land Amorim or Slot then bald khunt has faaaacked it again and it honestly won’t be worth watching.
I will still watch of course as I am a loyal customer, however I won’t entertain any dreams or hopes that we might win a trophy and will instead just hope that I get to see a decent game every now and again
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That is so thoroughly depressing and an incitement into the culture levy has created.
We used to stand for something. I grew up in the 80’s and spurs were expected to win cups. It was so exciting.
No we just hope we see a decent game every now and again for our £80 odd quid
As much as it hurts to admit it, what Conte said, while unprofessional, was all basically true. Until Enic start to run the club differently people will pay attention to what the likes of Conte & Jose say. Sadly Spurs isn't a job that the top guys covert, its basically somewhere you go to rebuild your rep, take the next step up the managerial ladder or just go for a nice pay day and easy environment. The Pressure is always on Levy (not the manager) because he creates so many problems for himself.
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posted 33 seconds ago
comment by Striketeam7 - the smartest person you know - Bronze medal khunt 2022 - Buy..Bellingham and another mid 20s Thiago type...lets just call him "frank" (U18109)
posted 1 minute ago
Simon Chadwick, professor of sport and geopolitical economy at the Skema Business School is well-placed to offer an explanation. Chadwick has spent a good deal of time in the Tottenham nerve centre, having worked with the club on a British Council project establishing links with China and Thailand.
“Inside that office building are people who have been to very good universities and business schools and worked across different sectors,” he says. “In other clubs those people would be sitting inside the stadium, looking out over the pitch and they would never forget why they were there. Those people are making the decisions and they are doing it in a building that isn’t even inside the stadium.”
“There is a fundamental misalignment between what people think the club should be doing and what they are doing,” Chadwick says.
The club cannot decide what they stand for, according to Chadwick, and are being pulled in three directions.
“Spurs were established as a community-based club with a reputation for playing football in a particular, attractive way,” he says. “It was one of the first clubs to float on the London Stock Exchange and that instigated a process of cultural transformation in the 1980s into the 1990s to become about controlling costs and making it a project.
“The Enic ownership — which has an 85.55 per cent stake in the club — means Spurs are not the most important asset for an owner — in this instance Joe Lewis — but one of a number of assets. The DNA of the club becomes further diminished by this. So by the early 2000s you have a process of transformation, a club with a culture juxtaposed with a short-termism.
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Dont think you need to be a professor of sport and geopolitical economy at the Skema Business School...... I could have told you all that
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I just don’t get:
A) why some of our customers are so passive about this
B) why some of our customers like Devon still defend the bald khunt ?
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Just relax mate, everyone's entitled to their opinion. At the end of the day it's just football. Spurs are a private company and this is business. I know it goes against what your heart tells you but if you don't like it, don't go/ spend your money somewhere else.. Thats what the game has become.
Shut up and pay your money.
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Shut up and pay your money.
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It’s terrifying, our own fan base has forgotten that we are first and foremost a football club.
We’re not faaaaacking Disneyland, although the operation is Mickey Mouse.
I don’t get it - everyday I’m reminded of the Burkinshaw quote, the man was clairvoyant.
I’m convinced that ten years from now there will be a book out about Spurs over the Levy/ENIC tenure called “the death of a football club”
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posted 36 seconds ago
comment by Citizen Karen. This is not Tottenham Hotspur (U6574)
posted 42 seconds ago
Shut up and pay your money.
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It’s terrifying, our own fan base has forgotten that we are first and foremost a football club.
We’re not faaaaacking Disneyland, although the operation is Mickey Mouse.
I don’t get it - everyday I’m reminded of the Burkinshaw quote, the man was clairvoyant.
I’m convinced that ten years from now there will be a book out about Spurs over the Levy/ENIC tenure called “the death of a football club”
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Mate, yesterday the likes of grandsours and Devonshire were calling me names and telling me to shut up 😂 they were one step away from asking to see my papers.
It’s sad. My grandfather wouldn’t have believed it if he was still alive.
I can still hear him telling me about billy Nicholson and the push and run sides whilst I watched Glenn hoddle, Steve Perryman and even Paul gasgoinge get us in another cup final.
Now fans tell you to shut up going on about our lack of ambition.
That’s why Tottenham Hotspur is on pause in my opinion.
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posted 22 minutes ago
Let’s hope that Julian doesn’t read the Times otherwise it be a firm no.
I will put my prediction balls on the line and say Nagelsmann won’t be our next manager and neither will Poch - so if we don’t land Amorim or Slot then bald khunt has faaaacked it again and it honestly won’t be worth watching.
I will still watch of course as I am a loyal customer, however I won’t entertain any dreams or hopes that we might win a trophy and will instead just hope that I get to see a decent game every now and again
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I can see us with Glasner next season. For me he's second choice to Nagelsmann
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posted 22 minutes ago
Let’s hope that Julian doesn’t read the Times otherwise it be a firm no.
I will put my prediction balls on the line and say Nagelsmann won’t be our next manager and neither will Poch - so if we don’t land Amorim or Slot then bald khunt has faaaacked it again and it honestly won’t be worth watching.
I will still watch of course as I am a loyal customer, however I won’t entertain any dreams or hopes that we might win a trophy and will instead just hope that I get to see a decent game every now and again
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I can see us with Glasner next season. For me he's second choice to Nagelsmann
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Yeeeeesh, I’d rather have a season of Devonshire waxing lyrical about Levy than watch Glasners brand of football.
Totally wrong fit for us - dull dull dull football
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posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - the smartest person you know - Bronze medal khunt 2022 - Buy..Bellingham and another mid 20s Thiago type...lets just call him "frank" (U18109)
posted 36 seconds ago
comment by Citizen Karen. This is not Tottenham Hotspur (U6574)
posted 42 seconds ago
Shut up and pay your money.
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It’s terrifying, our own fan base has forgotten that we are first and foremost a football club.
We’re not faaaaacking Disneyland, although the operation is Mickey Mouse.
I don’t get it - everyday I’m reminded of the Burkinshaw quote, the man was clairvoyant.
I’m convinced that ten years from now there will be a book out about Spurs over the Levy/ENIC tenure called “the death of a football club”
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Mate, yesterday the likes of grandsours and Devonshire were calling me names and telling me to shut up 😂 they were one step away from asking to see my papers.
It’s sad. My grandfather wouldn’t have believed it if he was still alive.
I can still hear him telling me about billy Nicholson and the push and run sides whilst I watched Glenn hoddle, Steve Perryman and even Paul gasgoinge get us in another cup final.
Now fans tell you to shut up going on about our lack of ambition.
That’s why Tottenham Hotspur is on pause in my opinion.
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The great entertainers have gone and so has any fleeting chance of success.
We were always a flakey side, you didn’t know which Tottenham would turn up. I would take that again in a heartbeat because we still turned in some of the big games and cup finals - it was nothing to do with bottle and everything to do with the nature of the side
These days you know which Spurs side will turn up - the one that bottles any game that has any importance
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comment by Citizen Karen. This is not Tottenham Hotspur (U6574)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - the smartest person you know - Bronze medal khunt 2022 - Buy..Bellingham and another mid 20s Thiago type...lets just call him "frank" (U18109)
posted 36 seconds ago
comment by Citizen Karen. This is not Tottenham Hotspur (U6574)
posted 42 seconds ago
Shut up and pay your money.
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It’s terrifying, our own fan base has forgotten that we are first and foremost a football club.
We’re not faaaaacking Disneyland, although the operation is Mickey Mouse.
I don’t get it - everyday I’m reminded of the Burkinshaw quote, the man was clairvoyant.
I’m convinced that ten years from now there will be a book out about Spurs over the Levy/ENIC tenure called “the death of a football club”
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Mate, yesterday the likes of grandsours and Devonshire were calling me names and telling me to shut up 😂 they were one step away from asking to see my papers.
It’s sad. My grandfather wouldn’t have believed it if he was still alive.
I can still hear him telling me about billy Nicholson and the push and run sides whilst I watched Glenn hoddle, Steve Perryman and even Paul gasgoinge get us in another cup final.
Now fans tell you to shut up going on about our lack of ambition.
That’s why Tottenham Hotspur is on pause in my opinion.
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The great entertainers have gone and so has any fleeting chance of success.
We were always a flakey side, you didn’t know which Tottenham would turn up. I would take that again in a heartbeat because we still turned in some of the big games and cup finals - it was nothing to do with bottle and everything to do with the nature of the side
These days you know which Spurs side will turn up - the one that bottles any game that has any importance
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We used to be mercurial
These days were not even bottle jobs anymore as we just rotate to a side that hasn’t played together all season and expect them to find some sort of cohesion
Eddie, sorry for derailing, I will only talk about managers now.
I think Nagelsmann would be here if he truly wanted the job. I get he might want a rest, but if it was the Real Madrid job open he would have signed an hour after Bayern sacked him.
Given the way it went at Bayern, he needs his next gig to be a success - my guess is that PSG are interested and he can do well there
Your def not Disneyland. I’m in fecking Disneyland. Only place I’ve ever been where you can pay much more for a hot dog and a beer than at a premier league ground. Anyway good luck you lot, you deserve better than the bollox you've had to put up with.
Julian Nagelsmann's close friend, Ernset Tanner:
"Real will certainly be an option again, but from his interest, I see England rather as the next and logical step. Whether this has to be Tottenham in all haste, I dare to doubt." | @SPORT1
To dare is to doubt
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Julian Nagelsmann's close friend, Ernset Tanner:
"Real will certainly be an option again, but from his interest, I see England rather as the next and logical step. Whether this has to be Tottenham in all haste, I dare to doubt." | @SPORT1
To dare is to doubt
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posted on 28/3/23
Apparently there’s no fee in the summer. But there is a fee now. Say no more.
posted on 28/3/23
This is why he won’t come:
“Joe Lewis didn’t get rich by being nice or paternalistic and is not actively engaged with the club. Levy shapes the strategy. If Lewis wasn’t happy with what Levy is doing, he’d have fired him by now. Lewis is never questioned and at the same time he never questions Levy. Levy has not lost his job, Mauricio Pochettino has, José Mourinho has, Conte has.
“Culture eats the best managers in the world for breakfast.”
posted on 28/3/23
I’m sure Julian doesn’t want to be in the latest Tottenham fry up
posted on 28/3/23
comment by Striketeam7 - the smartest person you know - B... (U18109)
posted 1 minute ago
This is why he won’t come:
“Joe Lewis didn’t get rich by being nice or paternalistic and is not actively engaged with the club. Levy shapes the strategy. If Lewis wasn’t happy with what Levy is doing, he’d have fired him by now. Lewis is never questioned and at the same time he never questions Levy. Levy has not lost his job, Mauricio Pochettino has, José Mourinho has, Conte has.
“Culture eats the best managers in the world for breakfast.”
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The mans just been sacked from Bayern. Is that due to Levy and Lewis?
posted on 28/3/23
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 34 seconds ago
comment by Striketeam7 - the smartest person you know - B... (U18109)
posted 1 minute ago
This is why he won’t come:
“Joe Lewis didn’t get rich by being nice or paternalistic and is not actively engaged with the club. Levy shapes the strategy. If Lewis wasn’t happy with what Levy is doing, he’d have fired him by now. Lewis is never questioned and at the same time he never questions Levy. Levy has not lost his job, Mauricio Pochettino has, José Mourinho has, Conte has.
“Culture eats the best managers in the world for breakfast.”
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The mans just been sacked from Bayern. Is that due to Levy and Lewis?
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I’m surprised Bayern got rid of him if I’m honest , didn’t see that one coming.
posted on 28/3/23
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - the smartest person you know - B... (U18109)
posted 1 minute ago
This is why he won’t come:
“Joe Lewis didn’t get rich by being nice or paternalistic and is not actively engaged with the club. Levy shapes the strategy. If Lewis wasn’t happy with what Levy is doing, he’d have fired him by now. Lewis is never questioned and at the same time he never questions Levy. Levy has not lost his job, Mauricio Pochettino has, José Mourinho has, Conte has.
“Culture eats the best managers in the world for breakfast.”
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The mans just been sacked from Bayern. Is that due to Levy and Lewis?
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Devonshire you should read that Times article - they interviewed a Sports scientist and strategist who worked at Tottenham and he basically laid out everywhere we are going wrong in terms of attaining success.
If you don’t want to read it I understand, as it goes against everything you believe
posted on 28/3/23
Simon Chadwick, professor of sport and geopolitical economy at the Skema Business School is well-placed to offer an explanation. Chadwick has spent a good deal of time in the Tottenham nerve centre, having worked with the club on a British Council project establishing links with China and Thailand.
“Inside that office building are people who have been to very good universities and business schools and worked across different sectors,” he says. “In other clubs those people would be sitting inside the stadium, looking out over the pitch and they would never forget why they were there. Those people are making the decisions and they are doing it in a building that isn’t even inside the stadium.”
“There is a fundamental misalignment between what people think the club should be doing and what they are doing,” Chadwick says.
The club cannot decide what they stand for, according to Chadwick, and are being pulled in three directions.
“Spurs were established as a community-based club with a reputation for playing football in a particular, attractive way,” he says. “It was one of the first clubs to float on the London Stock Exchange and that instigated a process of cultural transformation in the 1980s into the 1990s to become about controlling costs and making it a project.
“The Enic ownership — which has an 85.55 per cent stake in the club — means Spurs are not the most important asset for an owner — in this instance Joe Lewis — but one of a number of assets. The DNA of the club becomes further diminished by this. So by the early 2000s you have a process of transformation, a club with a culture juxtaposed with a short-termism.
posted on 28/3/23
I think a lot of this comes down to how we get on in the next 3 or 4 games. If Stellini and Mason don't get the required results and top 4 starts to look more remote we are left in a really tough spot. Totally understand JN wanting to take a break (He's probably getting paid to be on holiday) and coming to spurs now, with the Spurs main objective (top 4) in jeopardy just feels like he's inheriting someone elses problem.
All of that is before you add the Kane dilemma into the mix.
Personally, don't think we'll get top 4. I can't see JN effectively taking a step down to a club, not in CL, no history of winning, with a chairman who's tough to work for and to club that might lose its most talismanic player.
I think we'll end up with manager who's either looking to take a step up (Amorim) or perhaps someone looking to rebuild his reputation (Enrique)
posted on 28/3/23
comment by Striketeam7 - the smartest person you know - Bronze medal khunt 2022 - Buy..Bellingham and another mid 20s Thiago type...lets just call him "frank" (U18109)
posted 1 minute ago
Simon Chadwick, professor of sport and geopolitical economy at the Skema Business School is well-placed to offer an explanation. Chadwick has spent a good deal of time in the Tottenham nerve centre, having worked with the club on a British Council project establishing links with China and Thailand.
“Inside that office building are people who have been to very good universities and business schools and worked across different sectors,” he says. “In other clubs those people would be sitting inside the stadium, looking out over the pitch and they would never forget why they were there. Those people are making the decisions and they are doing it in a building that isn’t even inside the stadium.”
“There is a fundamental misalignment between what people think the club should be doing and what they are doing,” Chadwick says.
The club cannot decide what they stand for, according to Chadwick, and are being pulled in three directions.
“Spurs were established as a community-based club with a reputation for playing football in a particular, attractive way,” he says. “It was one of the first clubs to float on the London Stock Exchange and that instigated a process of cultural transformation in the 1980s into the 1990s to become about controlling costs and making it a project.
“The Enic ownership — which has an 85.55 per cent stake in the club — means Spurs are not the most important asset for an owner — in this instance Joe Lewis — but one of a number of assets. The DNA of the club becomes further diminished by this. So by the early 2000s you have a process of transformation, a club with a culture juxtaposed with a short-termism.
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Dont think you need to be a professor of sport and geopolitical economy at the Skema Business School...... I could have told you all that
posted on 28/3/23
Let’s hope that Julian doesn’t read the Times otherwise it be a firm no.
I will put my prediction balls on the line and say Nagelsmann won’t be our next manager and neither will Poch - so if we don’t land Amorim or Slot then bald khunt has faaaacked it again and it honestly won’t be worth watching.
I will still watch of course as I am a loyal customer, however I won’t entertain any dreams or hopes that we might win a trophy and will instead just hope that I get to see a decent game every now and again
posted on 28/3/23
comment by Diamondlights (U20501)
posted 33 seconds ago
comment by Striketeam7 - the smartest person you know - Bronze medal khunt 2022 - Buy..Bellingham and another mid 20s Thiago type...lets just call him "frank" (U18109)
posted 1 minute ago
Simon Chadwick, professor of sport and geopolitical economy at the Skema Business School is well-placed to offer an explanation. Chadwick has spent a good deal of time in the Tottenham nerve centre, having worked with the club on a British Council project establishing links with China and Thailand.
“Inside that office building are people who have been to very good universities and business schools and worked across different sectors,” he says. “In other clubs those people would be sitting inside the stadium, looking out over the pitch and they would never forget why they were there. Those people are making the decisions and they are doing it in a building that isn’t even inside the stadium.”
“There is a fundamental misalignment between what people think the club should be doing and what they are doing,” Chadwick says.
The club cannot decide what they stand for, according to Chadwick, and are being pulled in three directions.
“Spurs were established as a community-based club with a reputation for playing football in a particular, attractive way,” he says. “It was one of the first clubs to float on the London Stock Exchange and that instigated a process of cultural transformation in the 1980s into the 1990s to become about controlling costs and making it a project.
“The Enic ownership — which has an 85.55 per cent stake in the club — means Spurs are not the most important asset for an owner — in this instance Joe Lewis — but one of a number of assets. The DNA of the club becomes further diminished by this. So by the early 2000s you have a process of transformation, a club with a culture juxtaposed with a short-termism.
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Dont think you need to be a professor of sport and geopolitical economy at the Skema Business School...... I could have told you all that
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I just don’t get:
A) why some of our customers are so passive about this
B) why some of our customers like Devon still defend the bald khunt ?
posted on 28/3/23
comment by Striketeam7 - the smartest person you know - Bronze medal khunt 2022 - Buy..Bellingham and another mid 20s Thiago type...lets just call him "frank" (U18109)
posted 26 seconds ago
Let’s hope that Julian doesn’t read the Times otherwise it be a firm no.
I will put my prediction balls on the line and say Nagelsmann won’t be our next manager and neither will Poch - so if we don’t land Amorim or Slot then bald khunt has faaaacked it again and it honestly won’t be worth watching.
I will still watch of course as I am a loyal customer, however I won’t entertain any dreams or hopes that we might win a trophy and will instead just hope that I get to see a decent game every now and again
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That is so thoroughly depressing and an incitement into the culture levy has created.
We used to stand for something. I grew up in the 80’s and spurs were expected to win cups. It was so exciting.
No we just hope we see a decent game every now and again for our £80 odd quid
posted on 28/3/23
As much as it hurts to admit it, what Conte said, while unprofessional, was all basically true. Until Enic start to run the club differently people will pay attention to what the likes of Conte & Jose say. Sadly Spurs isn't a job that the top guys covert, its basically somewhere you go to rebuild your rep, take the next step up the managerial ladder or just go for a nice pay day and easy environment. The Pressure is always on Levy (not the manager) because he creates so many problems for himself.
posted on 28/3/23
comment by Striketeam7 - the smartest person you know - Bronze medal khunt 2022 - Buy..Bellingham and another mid 20s Thiago type...lets just call him "frank" (U18109)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Diamondlights (U20501)
posted 33 seconds ago
comment by Striketeam7 - the smartest person you know - Bronze medal khunt 2022 - Buy..Bellingham and another mid 20s Thiago type...lets just call him "frank" (U18109)
posted 1 minute ago
Simon Chadwick, professor of sport and geopolitical economy at the Skema Business School is well-placed to offer an explanation. Chadwick has spent a good deal of time in the Tottenham nerve centre, having worked with the club on a British Council project establishing links with China and Thailand.
“Inside that office building are people who have been to very good universities and business schools and worked across different sectors,” he says. “In other clubs those people would be sitting inside the stadium, looking out over the pitch and they would never forget why they were there. Those people are making the decisions and they are doing it in a building that isn’t even inside the stadium.”
“There is a fundamental misalignment between what people think the club should be doing and what they are doing,” Chadwick says.
The club cannot decide what they stand for, according to Chadwick, and are being pulled in three directions.
“Spurs were established as a community-based club with a reputation for playing football in a particular, attractive way,” he says. “It was one of the first clubs to float on the London Stock Exchange and that instigated a process of cultural transformation in the 1980s into the 1990s to become about controlling costs and making it a project.
“The Enic ownership — which has an 85.55 per cent stake in the club — means Spurs are not the most important asset for an owner — in this instance Joe Lewis — but one of a number of assets. The DNA of the club becomes further diminished by this. So by the early 2000s you have a process of transformation, a club with a culture juxtaposed with a short-termism.
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Dont think you need to be a professor of sport and geopolitical economy at the Skema Business School...... I could have told you all that
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I just don’t get:
A) why some of our customers are so passive about this
B) why some of our customers like Devon still defend the bald khunt ?
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Just relax mate, everyone's entitled to their opinion. At the end of the day it's just football. Spurs are a private company and this is business. I know it goes against what your heart tells you but if you don't like it, don't go/ spend your money somewhere else.. Thats what the game has become.
posted on 28/3/23
Shut up and pay your money.
posted on 28/3/23
comment by Citizen Karen. This is not Tottenham Hotspur (U6574)
posted 42 seconds ago
Shut up and pay your money.
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It’s terrifying, our own fan base has forgotten that we are first and foremost a football club.
We’re not faaaaacking Disneyland, although the operation is Mickey Mouse.
I don’t get it - everyday I’m reminded of the Burkinshaw quote, the man was clairvoyant.
I’m convinced that ten years from now there will be a book out about Spurs over the Levy/ENIC tenure called “the death of a football club”
posted on 28/3/23
comment by Striketeam7 - the smartest person you know - Bronze medal khunt 2022 - Buy..Bellingham and another mid 20s Thiago type...lets just call him "frank" (U18109)
posted 36 seconds ago
comment by Citizen Karen. This is not Tottenham Hotspur (U6574)
posted 42 seconds ago
Shut up and pay your money.
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It’s terrifying, our own fan base has forgotten that we are first and foremost a football club.
We’re not faaaaacking Disneyland, although the operation is Mickey Mouse.
I don’t get it - everyday I’m reminded of the Burkinshaw quote, the man was clairvoyant.
I’m convinced that ten years from now there will be a book out about Spurs over the Levy/ENIC tenure called “the death of a football club”
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Mate, yesterday the likes of grandsours and Devonshire were calling me names and telling me to shut up 😂 they were one step away from asking to see my papers.
It’s sad. My grandfather wouldn’t have believed it if he was still alive.
I can still hear him telling me about billy Nicholson and the push and run sides whilst I watched Glenn hoddle, Steve Perryman and even Paul gasgoinge get us in another cup final.
Now fans tell you to shut up going on about our lack of ambition.
That’s why Tottenham Hotspur is on pause in my opinion.
posted on 28/3/23
comment by Striketeam7 - the smartest person you know - Bronze medal khunt 2022 - Buy..Bellingham and another mid 20s Thiago type...lets just call him "frank" (U18109)
posted 22 minutes ago
Let’s hope that Julian doesn’t read the Times otherwise it be a firm no.
I will put my prediction balls on the line and say Nagelsmann won’t be our next manager and neither will Poch - so if we don’t land Amorim or Slot then bald khunt has faaaacked it again and it honestly won’t be worth watching.
I will still watch of course as I am a loyal customer, however I won’t entertain any dreams or hopes that we might win a trophy and will instead just hope that I get to see a decent game every now and again
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I can see us with Glasner next season. For me he's second choice to Nagelsmann
posted on 28/3/23
comment by Ioavirgo (U10470)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - the smartest person you know - Bronze medal khunt 2022 - Buy..Bellingham and another mid 20s Thiago type...lets just call him "frank" (U18109)
posted 22 minutes ago
Let’s hope that Julian doesn’t read the Times otherwise it be a firm no.
I will put my prediction balls on the line and say Nagelsmann won’t be our next manager and neither will Poch - so if we don’t land Amorim or Slot then bald khunt has faaaacked it again and it honestly won’t be worth watching.
I will still watch of course as I am a loyal customer, however I won’t entertain any dreams or hopes that we might win a trophy and will instead just hope that I get to see a decent game every now and again
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I can see us with Glasner next season. For me he's second choice to Nagelsmann
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Yeeeeesh, I’d rather have a season of Devonshire waxing lyrical about Levy than watch Glasners brand of football.
Totally wrong fit for us - dull dull dull football
posted on 28/3/23
comment by Citizen Karen. This is not Tottenham Hotspur (U6574)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - the smartest person you know - Bronze medal khunt 2022 - Buy..Bellingham and another mid 20s Thiago type...lets just call him "frank" (U18109)
posted 36 seconds ago
comment by Citizen Karen. This is not Tottenham Hotspur (U6574)
posted 42 seconds ago
Shut up and pay your money.
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It’s terrifying, our own fan base has forgotten that we are first and foremost a football club.
We’re not faaaaacking Disneyland, although the operation is Mickey Mouse.
I don’t get it - everyday I’m reminded of the Burkinshaw quote, the man was clairvoyant.
I’m convinced that ten years from now there will be a book out about Spurs over the Levy/ENIC tenure called “the death of a football club”
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Mate, yesterday the likes of grandsours and Devonshire were calling me names and telling me to shut up 😂 they were one step away from asking to see my papers.
It’s sad. My grandfather wouldn’t have believed it if he was still alive.
I can still hear him telling me about billy Nicholson and the push and run sides whilst I watched Glenn hoddle, Steve Perryman and even Paul gasgoinge get us in another cup final.
Now fans tell you to shut up going on about our lack of ambition.
That’s why Tottenham Hotspur is on pause in my opinion.
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The great entertainers have gone and so has any fleeting chance of success.
We were always a flakey side, you didn’t know which Tottenham would turn up. I would take that again in a heartbeat because we still turned in some of the big games and cup finals - it was nothing to do with bottle and everything to do with the nature of the side
These days you know which Spurs side will turn up - the one that bottles any game that has any importance
posted on 28/3/23
comment by Striketeam7 - the smartest person you know - Bronze medal khunt 2022 - Buy..Bellingham and another mid 20s Thiago type...lets just call him "frank" (U18109)
posted 36 seconds ago
comment by Citizen Karen. This is not Tottenham Hotspur (U6574)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - the smartest person you know - Bronze medal khunt 2022 - Buy..Bellingham and another mid 20s Thiago type...lets just call him "frank" (U18109)
posted 36 seconds ago
comment by Citizen Karen. This is not Tottenham Hotspur (U6574)
posted 42 seconds ago
Shut up and pay your money.
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It’s terrifying, our own fan base has forgotten that we are first and foremost a football club.
We’re not faaaaacking Disneyland, although the operation is Mickey Mouse.
I don’t get it - everyday I’m reminded of the Burkinshaw quote, the man was clairvoyant.
I’m convinced that ten years from now there will be a book out about Spurs over the Levy/ENIC tenure called “the death of a football club”
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Mate, yesterday the likes of grandsours and Devonshire were calling me names and telling me to shut up 😂 they were one step away from asking to see my papers.
It’s sad. My grandfather wouldn’t have believed it if he was still alive.
I can still hear him telling me about billy Nicholson and the push and run sides whilst I watched Glenn hoddle, Steve Perryman and even Paul gasgoinge get us in another cup final.
Now fans tell you to shut up going on about our lack of ambition.
That’s why Tottenham Hotspur is on pause in my opinion.
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The great entertainers have gone and so has any fleeting chance of success.
We were always a flakey side, you didn’t know which Tottenham would turn up. I would take that again in a heartbeat because we still turned in some of the big games and cup finals - it was nothing to do with bottle and everything to do with the nature of the side
These days you know which Spurs side will turn up - the one that bottles any game that has any importance
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We used to be mercurial
These days were not even bottle jobs anymore as we just rotate to a side that hasn’t played together all season and expect them to find some sort of cohesion
posted on 28/3/23
Eddie, sorry for derailing, I will only talk about managers now.
I think Nagelsmann would be here if he truly wanted the job. I get he might want a rest, but if it was the Real Madrid job open he would have signed an hour after Bayern sacked him.
Given the way it went at Bayern, he needs his next gig to be a success - my guess is that PSG are interested and he can do well there
posted on 28/3/23
Your def not Disneyland. I’m in fecking Disneyland. Only place I’ve ever been where you can pay much more for a hot dog and a beer than at a premier league ground. Anyway good luck you lot, you deserve better than the bollox you've had to put up with.
posted on 28/3/23
Julian Nagelsmann's close friend, Ernset Tanner:
"Real will certainly be an option again, but from his interest, I see England rather as the next and logical step. Whether this has to be Tottenham in all haste, I dare to doubt." | @SPORT1
To dare is to doubt
posted on 28/3/23
comment by LukaBrasi COYS (U22178)
posted 3 minutes ago
Julian Nagelsmann's close friend, Ernset Tanner:
"Real will certainly be an option again, but from his interest, I see England rather as the next and logical step. Whether this has to be Tottenham in all haste, I dare to doubt." | @SPORT1
To dare is to doubt
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So Chelsea
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