You've made a good case for Sven.

Now do one for Craig Levein!

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comment by old warwick fox (U11640)
posted 0 seconds ago
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Not laughing at the suggestion that Sven was half decent, with which I agree; it was the threat of blocking/reporting in respect of Rodgers aficionados!

comment by BraveheartTyke (U6173)
posted 7 minutes ago
You've made a good case for Sven.

Now do one for Craig Levein!
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I'm good but I'm not that good

comment by old warwick fox (U11640)
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comment by old warwick fox (U11640)
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Not laughing at the suggestion that Sven was half decent, with which I agree; it was the threat of blocking/reporting in respect of Rodgers aficionados!
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Glad to hear that we are aligned, OWF

Very good. Can you make a case for Peter Taylor?

comment by Nuneaton_fox (U7936)
posted 1 hour, 14 minutes ago
Very good. Can you make a case for Peter Taylor?


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I think this one might be beyond me. His reign is remarkably similar to Rodgers' but at a much quicker pace - great start building on the good work left by the previous manager, everything starts to go downhill when he starts to change things, inevitably leads to disaster. Main difference is that we woke up to how badly Taylor was wrecking the joint before we were relegated...

Not sure you can compare Rodgers to Taylor. Rodgers won us a trophy and got two top 5 finishes - basically he achieved something. Taylor achieved absolutely nothing other than to single handedly destroy us. Rodger’s may have lost the plot completely and may well see us relegated this season but the difference is he’s not the only person responsible. Top and the board have a huge amount of culpability for mismanagement of the finances, player contracts and almost everything else. With Taylor - Leicesters decline was simply because of him and no one else. I mean junior Lewis FFS

comment by Foxello (U6985)
posted 8 hours, 49 minutes ago
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Not laughing at the suggestion that Sven was half decent, with which I agree; it was the threat of blocking/reporting in respect of Rodgers aficionados!
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Glad to hear that we are aligned, OWF
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Can’t beat a bit of alignment Foxello. It’s all the rage these days.
Craig Levein shouldn’t be beyond you though. He signed some decent players, as I recall, but couldn’t really get them playing as a team. Although we did heat Spurs in the FA Cup 3-2 after being 2-0 down. Mark de Vries played a blinder!

Craig Levein did a dece job with broken resources and an average squad. I didn’t mind him.

Erikson though. Hmmmmm. The case for the defence was strong, but we’ve forgotten the case for the prosecution.

In his 1 year (that’s it) in charge he made 25 (that’s right, 25) signings. Imagine Rodgers’ comments on hearing that 😂

Those signings were big names. Big wages. Big egos. And big flops. He created a squad of players but not a team.

Let me remind you:
Matt Mills
Michael Johnson (lol)
Michael Ball (bigger lol)
John Paintsil
Jermaine Beckford

Now there is some ridiculous signings there but the main issue is the first and the last. Sven brought in players that had a stinking attitude and stunk the club out. And was then shocked when the team spirit wa skin existent.

He brought players in on big wages for the level. With big egos and expected them to work. It did not. He left us in a mess and with us spiralling back towards relegation.

Pearson came in and took a good 6 months to remove the rotten core of players that had brown. The club and genuinely rebuilt us.

Sven did nothing but raise our profile. Everything else took us back 12 months…

Just read that Craig Levein signed Iain Hume, he did well for Barnsley after we signed him when you were relegated. Wasn't the same player after Chris Morgan nearly killed him and got away without being disciplined.

Listened to him in a podcast last year and he had regrets about leaving Leicester. He would've been quality in League One, but so was Matty Fryatt at that level too if I remember correctly.

I’d like to say I’m fully aligned with Mersey on this one. That’s right fully aligned! Sven was a high profile distraction. A Mandaric influenced appointment (he was still advising at the time) which oversaw a criminal recruitment spree that resulted in half of the players having to be cleared out

"I’d like to say I’m fully aligned with Mersey on this one. That’s right fully aligned!"

That's strange - your views are usually so wildly differing from each other

"Those signings were big names. Big wages. Big egos. And big flops. He created a squad of players but not a team.

Let me remind you:
Matt Mills
Michael Johnson (lol)
Michael Ball (bigger lol)
John Paintsil
Jermaine Beckford"

I'll give you the first four, Mersey, but I think it's a bit unfair to lump Beckford in. The guy clearly had quality and wasn't terrible for us. He dropped down a level to play for us and his 'bad attitude' seems to have only ever been something attributed to him when he was at Leicester. Pearson clearly wanted shot of him but I maintain that another manager could have got the best out of him - before you scream at me; yes, I know another manager might not have got us promoted, either!

"He left us in a mess and with us spiralling back towards relegation."

Not sure that last bit is true. From what I recall, we were mid-table and a few points off play offs when he was sacked. The 3-0 defeat to Millwall was the nail in the coffin but we had showed some signs of improvement against Southampton and Brighton prior to that. As we know, bedding in lots of new signings can take time.

"Sven did nothing but raise our profile. Everything else took us back 12 months…"

My view on this was that he was brought in specifically to raise our profile around the world. In that respect, he was successful - he made us a household name and it was that raising of the profile that was a key part of King Power's early blueprint for making us successful.

comment by BraveheartTyke (U6173)
posted 11 hours, 57 minutes ago
Just read that Craig Levein signed Iain Hume, he did well for Barnsley after we signed him when you were relegated. Wasn't the same player after Chris Morgan nearly killed him and got away without being disciplined.

Listened to him in a podcast last year and he had regrets about leaving Leicester. He would've been quality in League One, but so was Matty Fryatt at that level too if I remember correctly.
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I liked Hume. At times, he was the only player who seemed like he gave a toss about us. The head injury wrecked his career. Would've been interesting to see how he would have done for us in League One; Fryatt and Howard were a pretty strong partnership at that level so not sure how Hume would have changed that.

RE Levein - he was OK for us. Nothing more, nothing less. Came in at a tough time after Adams left and we had a really disjointed, aging squad of players that were using us as a pension pot. His signings, bar Hume and Kisnorbo, were pretty terrible, though. De Vries did one good thing against Spurs in the cup but was mostly awful.

RE Levein - he was OK for us. Nothing more, nothing less. Came in at a tough time after Adams left and we had a really disjointed, aging squad of players that were using us as a pension pot. His signings, bar Hume and Kisnorbo, were pretty terrible, though. De Vries did one good thing against Spurs in the cup but was mostly awful.
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I took a flight from Edinburgh to Spain just before Levein came to us and I was reading the back of the local Edinburgh paper. Levein was doing very well at Hearts and they were threatening to break into the top two and the paper was saying that Hearts desperately needed to tie Levein down to a long term deal amid interest from Leicester City.

I was very excited when he came to us but we all know how that turned out. Wasn't there a rumour that he'd come to Leicester with his best friend's wife or something and that had all gone pear-shaped. Could explain why he was so awful for us.

comment by Foxello (U6985)
posted 1 day, 6 hours ago
"I’d like to say I’m fully aligned with Mersey on this one. That’s right fully aligned!"

That's strange - your views are usually so wildly differing from each other
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99 and I always have full alignment on most topics. Just look back across all the threads and you’ll see this clearly 🙃

I agree that Sven raised the clubs profile at a time when we potentially needed it. But for me that’s the only possible thing you can say he did that benefitted the club. The rest needed undoing when Pearson joined.

What Pearson did was what all good managers should. Have a clear strategy that the club backs and build over 2-3 seasons. No high profile needed, just winning football to raise our status. That seems to work. What Pearson did for our club should be respected forever. For me he laid the foundations for our success and built a great working model under the ownership. It worked between them.

Rodgers also had a strategy but for me this has now become misaligned with the club and it’s why he needs to go. We’re pulling in different directions and we need a Pearson style rebuild again picking the next Pearson is going to be hard though - look how long it’s taken Man Utd to get it right. Look how long it took Liverpool!!

Anyway, back to Sven. He was pants. And so was Beckford imo. So overrated it hurt.

I’m tempted to align with Mersey on this one as regards Sven.
When Brendan eventually, to quote Simon Jordan “runs from the scene of the crime”, we could do a lot worse than tempt Nigel Pearson back for a third go.
Bet that will cause some unaligned views!
UTF🦊🦊🦊

Not knocking Pearsons role in transforming the club, he did a great job twice for us (although he was brutally exposed at PL level) - any ideas why he’s been so utterly pants at most other places he’s managed though?

Sven was a terrible manager for us. High profile but clueless about the Championship.
Levein was OK given the circumstances the club was in.

Terrific evening when we beat Spurs in the Cup, coming back to 3-2 after going 2-0 down if I remember correctly. Singing some Quo song at the end - maybe 'Rocking all over the World'?

Pearson was the right man at the right time, he built the foundations for the fantastic success we've had over the last 10 years. Always will be an LCFC legend in my view. He's doing OK at Bristol. I'd be a bit wary of bringing him back in to our club however, I suspect his time with us has passed.

comment by 99 Problems (Top - invest in the squad and sack Rodgers) (U12353)
posted 15 hours, 11 minutes ago
Not knocking Pearsons role in transforming the club, he did a great job twice for us (although he was brutally exposed at PL level) - any ideas why he’s been so utterly pants at most other places he’s managed though?
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It’s a great question and I think it comes down to simply being the right man at the right time. Pearson clearly needed Walsh and Shakespeare with him, and an ownership that backed his vision for sports science and a squad of hungry motivated players.

It worked at our club.

Since then I don’t think he’s ever had his full team around him or the infrastructure he’s wanted. So it’s been pretty poor.

Does it make his a good or bad manager? Neither, I think it makes him unadaptable with is what Rodgers is right now. So when the club and manager don’t fit anymore it’s time to go.