comment by ForestofFleet (U15852)
posted 2 minutes ago
This is awful. Players slipping. Can't hold the ball. Hoofing it out and Aywe and JJS just wandering around moaning looking for free kicks. Where is the pride and fight from the players ?
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We bought players who would fit an expansive attacking game really. I don’t think we bought players for a relation fight. I don’t know if any of them have experience of fighting relegation?
Why do we keep hoofing the ball to their keeper. About 10 overnight passes this half. Shelvy has wasted possession again and again
One shot on target tonight. That’s all you need to know
80 minutes since we scored and we have done nothing since. The decision making of the players has been abysmal. No reading of the game or just trying to create confusion.
Just did nothing last part of the game. No fight or anything. Could have just pumped it up and gone for it!
Luckily, everyone else (except Leeds) have lost too! I doubt any of them have been as bad as we have though. Lost our form at the worst time of the season.
Outside the bottom three on goal difference! A few weeks ago it was a seven point cushion.
Sorry to say I see no way we are staying up. The players don't know how to fight and grind out a result
On to Villa Park. Keep hoping.
Need different tactics away from home. Need to park the bus against Villa. No chance we can get anything if we don’t.
We are good as down now !!
Will prob be 3-4 points of safety by the time we play Brighton at home I think. Certainly won’t get any points from next 3 games.
Since we scored the Leeds keeper hasn’t had a save to make. We were competitive second half, but had no shape, no plan and no confidence. We offered nothing as an attacking force and yet again clueless Ayew comes on, sometimes I wonder about our substations. Hope Cooper stays and we don’t panic.
Waiting for the John Percy tweet on twitter !!
comment by reddave (U8660)
posted 3 seconds ago
Since we scored the Leeds keeper hasn’t had a save to make. We were competitive second half, but had no shape, no plan and no confidence. We offered nothing as an attacking force and yet again clueless Ayew comes on, sometimes I wonder about our substations. Hope Cooper stays and we don’t panic.
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The big problem is confidence. When you have no confidence you look like you have no ideas. Look at Liverpool, have plenty of attacking talent but look useless at times.
We didn’t learn from the first Leeds game. We got done by their wide men and the same happened again. We just got dominated the whole game.
comment by reds_are_everywhere (U9547)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by reddave (U8660)
posted 3 seconds ago
Since we scored the Leeds keeper hasn’t had a save to make. We were competitive second half, but had no shape, no plan and no confidence. We offered nothing as an attacking force and yet again clueless Ayew comes on, sometimes I wonder about our substations. Hope Cooper stays and we don’t panic.
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The big problem is confidence. When you have no confidence you look like you have no ideas. Look at Liverpool, have plenty of attacking talent but look useless at times.
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You have to wonder what they are doing in training. at this stage in the season that can't be any excuses for such poor away form. We have conceded in injury time again and there is no sign that we are learning or progressing. On paper we have a squad that should easily be mid table but we are not playing to their strength and to see players like Ayew coming on must be so deflating for the players on the pitch as he is the biggest waste of space I've seen in a Forest shirt in quite a few years and that really is saying something.
I just want to see some fight. If we lose to good goals fine but lets stop the gifts as that is what is killing us more than anything else right now.
I saw positives from the performance.
Not sure why Danilo was taken off, he was having a great game. Mangala off early meant we lost our energy in midfield.
Dennis passed a bit more. Obviously setting up the goal.
Toffolo did well defensively, as did Felipe and Niakhate.
Williams was the weak link…he’s been poor all season and was singled out. He is not Premier League standard.
If McKenna is fit it might time to switch to a back three. Williams can’t defend anyway.
Yeah, we lost the game, but so will (and did) a lot of other teams.
They’ll be a lucky call or goal that will see us pick up points.
comment by Morninchile (U18154)
posted about a minute ago
I saw positives from the performance.
Not sure why Danilo was taken off, he was having a great game. Mangala off early meant we lost our energy in midfield.
Dennis passed a bit more. Obviously setting up the goal.
Toffolo did well defensively, as did Felipe and Niakhate.
Williams was the weak link…he’s been poor all season and was singled out. He is not Premier League standard.
If McKenna is fit it might time to switch to a back three. Williams can’t defend anyway.
Yeah, we lost the game, but so will (and did) a lot of other teams.
They’ll be a lucky call or goal that will see us pick up points.
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I pray your last statement proves to be true.
comment by ForestofFleet (U15852)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by reds_are_everywhere (U9547)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by reddave (U8660)
posted 3 seconds ago
Since we scored the Leeds keeper hasn’t had a save to make. We were competitive second half, but had no shape, no plan and no confidence. We offered nothing as an attacking force and yet again clueless Ayew comes on, sometimes I wonder about our substations. Hope Cooper stays and we don’t panic.
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The big problem is confidence. When you have no confidence you look like you have no ideas. Look at Liverpool, have plenty of attacking talent but look useless at times.
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You have to wonder what they are doing in training. at this stage in the season that can't be any excuses for such poor away form. We have conceded in injury time again and there is no sign that we are learning or progressing. On paper we have a squad that should easily be mid table but we are not playing to their strength and to see players like Ayew coming on must be so deflating for the players on the pitch as he is the biggest waste of space I've seen in a Forest shirt in quite a few years and that really is saying something.
I just want to see some fight. If we lose to good goals fine but lets stop the gifts as that is what is killing us more than anything else right now.
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Yeah it’s so easy to score against us. You just pass down the wing, cross and you get a chance. It’s hard to know why we are so bad. I don’t know what happens tactically? We can’t defend or attack? We just give the ball away constantly and let teams have the ball. Yates does make a big difference to be fair. However, we need some different tactics.
I feel we are as good as down after today.
Who will be our next manager ?
Which players will be with us next season ?
We are not good enough for the Premier league , we needed to beat or draw against the teams below Palace and we did not .
We are done .
comment by Morninchile (U18154)
posted 2 minutes ago
I saw positives from the performance.
Not sure why Danilo was taken off, he was having a great game. Mangala off early meant we lost our energy in midfield.
Dennis passed a bit more. Obviously setting up the goal.
Toffolo did well defensively, as did Felipe and Niakhate.
Williams was the weak link…he’s been poor all season and was singled out. He is not Premier League standard.
If McKenna is fit it might time to switch to a back three. Williams can’t defend anyway.
Yeah, we lost the game, but so will (and did) a lot of other teams.
They’ll be a lucky call or goal that will see us pick up points.
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I really hope you are right. However, a lucky goal will make no difference if we concede two goals a game.
comment by Doha-red (U10797)
posted 23 seconds ago
I feel we are as good as down after today.
Who will be our next manager ?
Which players will be with us next season ?
We are not good enough for the Premier league , we needed to beat or draw against the teams below Palace and we did not .
We are done .
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I think that actually we have got 6 more points than we have deserved. I felt we were in a false position for a while. We didn’t deserve to beat Leeds or Leicester really. Usually would have lost both those games with the chances they created. It gave us the impression we were better than we were. We have been found out since then.
I think the bubble burst at home to United in the Semi-final. We lost with moot any fight at all and that was deflating.
I'm sorry, but SC's post game interview was so, not negative, but sounded like he knows he is under pressure.
Which actually saddens me, because I think he is superb as a coach.
I dont dispute any of what is said above, but there still maybe 3 worse teams than us at the end of the season, if we can start picking up some points away from home, having said that we have Aston Villa, Chelsea, Liverpool and Brentford before a final day at the Palace. We would need an absolute miracle to get many points out of that run, but the 3 teams below us at the moment will have an equally difficult run in. We need to hold our nerve, stick with the manager, and fight for our survival, its still do able, but it will be a hell of an achievement if we manage it.
comment by reds_are_everywhere (U9547)
posted about an hour ago
comment by Doha-red (U10797)
posted 23 seconds ago
I feel we are as good as down after today.
Who will be our next manager ?
Which players will be with us next season ?
We are not good enough for the Premier league , we needed to beat or draw against the teams below Palace and we did not .
We are done .
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I think that actually we have got 6 more points than we have deserved. I felt we were in a false position for a while. We didn’t deserve to beat Leeds or Leicester really. Usually would have lost both those games with the chances they created. It gave us the impression we were better than we were. We have been found out since then.
I think the bubble burst at home to United in the Semi-final. We lost with moot any fight at all and that was deflating.
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We should have beaten Fulham and Bournemouth at home though so could argue we should have 6 more points
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posted on 4/4/23
comment by ForestofFleet (U15852)
posted 2 minutes ago
This is awful. Players slipping. Can't hold the ball. Hoofing it out and Aywe and JJS just wandering around moaning looking for free kicks. Where is the pride and fight from the players ?
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We bought players who would fit an expansive attacking game really. I don’t think we bought players for a relation fight. I don’t know if any of them have experience of fighting relegation?
posted on 4/4/23
Why do we keep hoofing the ball to their keeper. About 10 overnight passes this half. Shelvy has wasted possession again and again
posted on 4/4/23
One shot on target tonight. That’s all you need to know
posted on 4/4/23
80 minutes since we scored and we have done nothing since. The decision making of the players has been abysmal. No reading of the game or just trying to create confusion.
posted on 4/4/23
Just did nothing last part of the game. No fight or anything. Could have just pumped it up and gone for it!
Luckily, everyone else (except Leeds) have lost too! I doubt any of them have been as bad as we have though. Lost our form at the worst time of the season.
posted on 4/4/23
Outside the bottom three on goal difference! A few weeks ago it was a seven point cushion.
posted on 4/4/23
Sorry to say I see no way we are staying up. The players don't know how to fight and grind out a result
posted on 4/4/23
On to Villa Park. Keep hoping.
posted on 4/4/23
Need different tactics away from home. Need to park the bus against Villa. No chance we can get anything if we don’t.
posted on 4/4/23
We are good as down now !!
posted on 4/4/23
Will prob be 3-4 points of safety by the time we play Brighton at home I think. Certainly won’t get any points from next 3 games.
posted on 4/4/23
Since we scored the Leeds keeper hasn’t had a save to make. We were competitive second half, but had no shape, no plan and no confidence. We offered nothing as an attacking force and yet again clueless Ayew comes on, sometimes I wonder about our substations. Hope Cooper stays and we don’t panic.
posted on 4/4/23
Waiting for the John Percy tweet on twitter !!
posted on 4/4/23
comment by reddave (U8660)
posted 3 seconds ago
Since we scored the Leeds keeper hasn’t had a save to make. We were competitive second half, but had no shape, no plan and no confidence. We offered nothing as an attacking force and yet again clueless Ayew comes on, sometimes I wonder about our substations. Hope Cooper stays and we don’t panic.
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The big problem is confidence. When you have no confidence you look like you have no ideas. Look at Liverpool, have plenty of attacking talent but look useless at times.
posted on 4/4/23
We didn’t learn from the first Leeds game. We got done by their wide men and the same happened again. We just got dominated the whole game.
posted on 4/4/23
comment by reds_are_everywhere (U9547)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by reddave (U8660)
posted 3 seconds ago
Since we scored the Leeds keeper hasn’t had a save to make. We were competitive second half, but had no shape, no plan and no confidence. We offered nothing as an attacking force and yet again clueless Ayew comes on, sometimes I wonder about our substations. Hope Cooper stays and we don’t panic.
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The big problem is confidence. When you have no confidence you look like you have no ideas. Look at Liverpool, have plenty of attacking talent but look useless at times.
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You have to wonder what they are doing in training. at this stage in the season that can't be any excuses for such poor away form. We have conceded in injury time again and there is no sign that we are learning or progressing. On paper we have a squad that should easily be mid table but we are not playing to their strength and to see players like Ayew coming on must be so deflating for the players on the pitch as he is the biggest waste of space I've seen in a Forest shirt in quite a few years and that really is saying something.
I just want to see some fight. If we lose to good goals fine but lets stop the gifts as that is what is killing us more than anything else right now.
posted on 4/4/23
I saw positives from the performance.
Not sure why Danilo was taken off, he was having a great game. Mangala off early meant we lost our energy in midfield.
Dennis passed a bit more. Obviously setting up the goal.
Toffolo did well defensively, as did Felipe and Niakhate.
Williams was the weak link…he’s been poor all season and was singled out. He is not Premier League standard.
If McKenna is fit it might time to switch to a back three. Williams can’t defend anyway.
Yeah, we lost the game, but so will (and did) a lot of other teams.
They’ll be a lucky call or goal that will see us pick up points.
posted on 4/4/23
comment by Morninchile (U18154)
posted about a minute ago
I saw positives from the performance.
Not sure why Danilo was taken off, he was having a great game. Mangala off early meant we lost our energy in midfield.
Dennis passed a bit more. Obviously setting up the goal.
Toffolo did well defensively, as did Felipe and Niakhate.
Williams was the weak link…he’s been poor all season and was singled out. He is not Premier League standard.
If McKenna is fit it might time to switch to a back three. Williams can’t defend anyway.
Yeah, we lost the game, but so will (and did) a lot of other teams.
They’ll be a lucky call or goal that will see us pick up points.
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I pray your last statement proves to be true.
posted on 4/4/23
comment by ForestofFleet (U15852)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by reds_are_everywhere (U9547)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by reddave (U8660)
posted 3 seconds ago
Since we scored the Leeds keeper hasn’t had a save to make. We were competitive second half, but had no shape, no plan and no confidence. We offered nothing as an attacking force and yet again clueless Ayew comes on, sometimes I wonder about our substations. Hope Cooper stays and we don’t panic.
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The big problem is confidence. When you have no confidence you look like you have no ideas. Look at Liverpool, have plenty of attacking talent but look useless at times.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You have to wonder what they are doing in training. at this stage in the season that can't be any excuses for such poor away form. We have conceded in injury time again and there is no sign that we are learning or progressing. On paper we have a squad that should easily be mid table but we are not playing to their strength and to see players like Ayew coming on must be so deflating for the players on the pitch as he is the biggest waste of space I've seen in a Forest shirt in quite a few years and that really is saying something.
I just want to see some fight. If we lose to good goals fine but lets stop the gifts as that is what is killing us more than anything else right now.
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Yeah it’s so easy to score against us. You just pass down the wing, cross and you get a chance. It’s hard to know why we are so bad. I don’t know what happens tactically? We can’t defend or attack? We just give the ball away constantly and let teams have the ball. Yates does make a big difference to be fair. However, we need some different tactics.
posted on 4/4/23
I feel we are as good as down after today.
Who will be our next manager ?
Which players will be with us next season ?
We are not good enough for the Premier league , we needed to beat or draw against the teams below Palace and we did not .
We are done .
posted on 4/4/23
comment by Morninchile (U18154)
posted 2 minutes ago
I saw positives from the performance.
Not sure why Danilo was taken off, he was having a great game. Mangala off early meant we lost our energy in midfield.
Dennis passed a bit more. Obviously setting up the goal.
Toffolo did well defensively, as did Felipe and Niakhate.
Williams was the weak link…he’s been poor all season and was singled out. He is not Premier League standard.
If McKenna is fit it might time to switch to a back three. Williams can’t defend anyway.
Yeah, we lost the game, but so will (and did) a lot of other teams.
They’ll be a lucky call or goal that will see us pick up points.
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I really hope you are right. However, a lucky goal will make no difference if we concede two goals a game.
posted on 4/4/23
comment by Doha-red (U10797)
posted 23 seconds ago
I feel we are as good as down after today.
Who will be our next manager ?
Which players will be with us next season ?
We are not good enough for the Premier league , we needed to beat or draw against the teams below Palace and we did not .
We are done .
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I think that actually we have got 6 more points than we have deserved. I felt we were in a false position for a while. We didn’t deserve to beat Leeds or Leicester really. Usually would have lost both those games with the chances they created. It gave us the impression we were better than we were. We have been found out since then.
I think the bubble burst at home to United in the Semi-final. We lost with moot any fight at all and that was deflating.
posted on 4/4/23
I'm sorry, but SC's post game interview was so, not negative, but sounded like he knows he is under pressure.
Which actually saddens me, because I think he is superb as a coach.
posted on 4/4/23
I dont dispute any of what is said above, but there still maybe 3 worse teams than us at the end of the season, if we can start picking up some points away from home, having said that we have Aston Villa, Chelsea, Liverpool and Brentford before a final day at the Palace. We would need an absolute miracle to get many points out of that run, but the 3 teams below us at the moment will have an equally difficult run in. We need to hold our nerve, stick with the manager, and fight for our survival, its still do able, but it will be a hell of an achievement if we manage it.
posted on 4/4/23
comment by reds_are_everywhere (U9547)
posted about an hour ago
comment by Doha-red (U10797)
posted 23 seconds ago
I feel we are as good as down after today.
Who will be our next manager ?
Which players will be with us next season ?
We are not good enough for the Premier league , we needed to beat or draw against the teams below Palace and we did not .
We are done .
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I think that actually we have got 6 more points than we have deserved. I felt we were in a false position for a while. We didn’t deserve to beat Leeds or Leicester really. Usually would have lost both those games with the chances they created. It gave us the impression we were better than we were. We have been found out since then.
I think the bubble burst at home to United in the Semi-final. We lost with moot any fight at all and that was deflating.
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We should have beaten Fulham and Bournemouth at home though so could argue we should have 6 more points
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