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posted on 14/4/23

dont know where this 10m amount is coming from ? not seen anything confirmed about budgets at all.

posted on 14/4/23

comment by PointyBirds (U21890)
posted 1 second ago
I’m sure Christian Nerlinger will sort it all out.
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no chance... he is an agent still i think, pretty sure he is still based in glasgow. Met him a few times years ago.

posted on 14/4/23

comment by Call Sign (U3627)
posted 2 minutes ago
Fash said something about a £10M budget. Is that based on player sales or thinking about potential Euro money from next season?

If it is player sales then who are you selling to get that money? From what I read in the article and comments there aren't many players getting you decent money. Your potential decent money players are now either too old or out of contract.

FWIW I think Morelos will still be there next season. No one wants an unfit player with a bad attitude. He should have been sold 2 years ago (if any offers did come in).

Kent may view the end of his contract as an opportunity for a club in England, maybe even a top Championship side, to take a chance on him so the risk for him leaving is worth it. Morelos risk is different.

IF you have £10M to spend and you are spending £5-6M on Tillman then to replace a significant amount of players will have to be a very shrewd market or a lot of loanees.

Of course it is possible. Postecoglou did a remarkable job rebuilding Celtic on modest spending (negative net spend I believe) but he at least had decent money from Edouard and Christie to start with.

The other side is quite simply is Beale a good manager? I remember when Gerrard finally came good and everyone was talking aboput how good the DoF was at identifying potential in players. He is now persona non grata, Gerrard is gone and it is now his number 3 in charge of you - the supposed brains. Yet all I see in his play is get the ball to the full backs and get it in the air.

Your best potential right now is in Tillman. he reminds me of Kent when he was on loan at you. A capable player who isn't consistent. Of course you should sign him but at 60% of your budget to - in the words of many Rangers fans when we signed Jota and CCV - "stand still".

Anything can happen but as a Celtic fan I do not worry about you improving next season based on the turnaround you have to do. The current squad is not far off us but while we do not need an overhaul, you do.
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Tbh how we get the money is immaterial, there will be a budget from somewhere. There will be sales - perhaps modest ones - as well as a significant amount saved on wages. For example its not unrealistic to suggest that McGregor, Helander, Arfield, Davis save you around £100k per week before you factor in wages for Kent and Morelos if both go. That's a significant saving which in itself if reinvested in the team provides at least £5m.

It's likely that Kamara will move on but I wouldn't speculate on income from him. We turned down £8m last summer from Rennes which was a mistake and we probably get half that now if we're lucky, albeit he has a couple of years of his deal. Either way I think £10m is probably a realistic budget.

In terms of Beale, not sure where I'd get any concerns on his ability. He's lost 2 games since joining in November, both by 1 goal to a team you probably expect us to lose to. The fact that's his record so far with a group we are told need a rebuild and are not good enough would suggest there's potential for him to do well if he gets the players he wants. It's not that long ago he was offered a Premiership job and had a QPR team facing relegation top of the championship. I think he's shown plenty in the last 5 months to suggest he's the right man to challenge next season, pretty confident it will be an improved side next season.

And for all the confidence on the other side, there's reason for us to be optimistic too. Celtic are 2 years in with a settled squad and in 2/3 games since Beale you wouldn't see a gulf in quality between them. Like I say that's with us apparently 5 first team players short of being good enough. So not all doom and gloom.

posted on 14/4/23

I suppose the proof of the pudding - as with us - is Europe. All well and good scudding teams every week you can outspend by multiples, but on the continong is where the real yardstick is.

posted on 14/4/23

Looks like Wilson took the spell checker with him when he left.

https://twitter.com/DH_RFC95/status/1646892674434101252?cxt=HHwWiMCzra2K-NotAAAA

posted on 14/4/23

‘Tbh how we get the money is immaterial, there will be a budget from somewhere. There will be sales - perhaps modest ones - as well as a significant amount saved on wages. For example it’s not unrealistic to suggest that McGregor, Helander, Arfield, Davis save you around £100k per week before you factor in wages for Kent and Morelos if both go. That's a significant saving which in itself if reinvested in the team provides at least £5m.’

You can see where rangers have gone wrong over the years.

Where the money comes from is immaterial, and if they’re paying £100k per week for those 4, then it’s hardly a surprise you’re on UEFA’s watchlist!

posted on 14/4/23

I still can't believe you didn't sell Morelos and Kent when you could've gotten a decent price for both. Mind you, that was at the time you won the Covid Title and desperately needed both. So...

The big question you should be asking right now, is why is everyone leaving Rangers..?

posted on 14/4/23

It is immaterial to normal fans POV, purely because we have heard this every year for about 10 years and every Manager has been backed. It would be naive to think Beale won't have a budget in the summer.

I've no idea what that budget will be but the assumption Rangers won't spend anything because they don't have high value assets has proven to be inaccurate over the years. I've given the example on wages as one area where we have a decent amount to reinvest regardless of how much it ends up being.

posted on 14/4/23

comment by Changing my name from My POV - but not decided what to change it to yet (U10636)
posted 1 hour, 25 minutes ago
‘Tbh how we get the money is immaterial, there will be a budget from somewhere. There will be sales - perhaps modest ones - as well as a significant amount saved on wages. For example it’s not unrealistic to suggest that McGregor, Helander, Arfield, Davis save you around £100k per week before you factor in wages for Kent and Morelos if both go. That's a significant saving which in itself if reinvested in the team provides at least £5m.’

You can see where rangers have gone wrong over the years.

Where the money comes from is immaterial, and if they’re paying £100k per week for those 4, then it’s hardly a surprise you’re on UEFA’s watchlist!
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Haha. Exactly! With financial strategies like that it makes you wonder what ever went wrong with the old rangers. “The money will come from somewhere”

Beauty 👍🏼

comment by Silver (U6112)

posted on 14/4/23

comment by Call Sign (U3627)
posted 2 hours, 18 minutes ago
Fash said something about a £10M budget. Is that based on player sales or thinking about potential Euro money from next season?

If it is player sales then who are you selling to get that money? From what I read in the article and comments there aren't many players getting you decent money. Your potential decent money players are now either too old or out of contract.

FWIW I think Morelos will still be there next season. No one wants an unfit player with a bad attitude. He should have been sold 2 years ago (if any offers did come in).

Kent may view the end of his contract as an opportunity for a club in England, maybe even a top Championship side, to take a chance on him so the risk for him leaving is worth it. Morelos risk is different.

IF you have £10M to spend and you are spending £5-6M on Tillman then to replace a significant amount of players will have to be a very shrewd market or a lot of loanees.

Of course it is possible. Postecoglou did a remarkable job rebuilding Celtic on modest spending (negative net spend I believe) but he at least had decent money from Edouard and Christie to start with.

The other side is quite simply is Beale a good manager? I remember when Gerrard finally came good and everyone was talking aboput how good the DoF was at identifying potential in players. He is now persona non grata, Gerrard is gone and it is now his number 3 in charge of you - the supposed brains. Yet all I see in his play is get the ball to the full backs and get it in the air.

Your best potential right now is in Tillman. he reminds me of Kent when he was on loan at you. A capable player who isn't consistent. Of course you should sign him but at 60% of your budget to - in the words of many Rangers fans when we signed Jota and CCV - "stand still".

Anything can happen but as a Celtic fan I do not worry about you improving next season based on the turnaround you have to do. The current squad is not far off us but while we do not need an overhaul, you do.
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You're a bad man. If Rangers see the value in Tillman then so will others that could be more attractive to both player and selling club so it is no shoe-in.

Kent & Morelos - meh - imho opinion they NEED to move these guys on cos one is stinking the place out after ripping the pash out the fans for years and the other, well, tbh, Rangers is probably his level but I think he needs a new challenge to raise his game? I will be delighted if either or both stay.

I don't think 're-building' is a major issue for either club if you have a good manager. Players can adapt to anything. The key is motivating them, however. In that respect I will be delighted if Celtic bring in 5x 1st team starters and move some on / relegate some to supporting role. Reinvigoration of the squad is just as important to us imho.

Said before, home grown players are key for UEFA requirements and we are sailing close. Feel for the guys that will be named for UEFA purposes but know they have zero chance of playing. It is yet another area where smaller countries are discriminated against by UEFA to ensure the status quo of big 5 domination.

comment by Silver (U6112)

posted on 14/4/23

comment by Gersmid (U22273)
posted 51 minutes ago
It is immaterial to normal fans POV, purely because we have heard this every year for about 10 years and every Manager has been backed. It would be naive to think Beale won't have a budget in the summer.

I've no idea what that budget will be but the assumption Rangers won't spend anything because they don't have high value assets has proven to be inaccurate over the years. I've given the example on wages as one area where we have a decent amount to reinvest regardless of how much it ends up being.
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I agree though it might be the last days of the window before knowing if it is a hypothetical £10m or £20m.

posted on 14/4/23

It might be and I haven't said anything about a figure. Purely that it's naive to think there won't be a budget to work with

posted on 14/4/23

comment by Gersmid (U22273)
posted 1 hour, 24 minutes ago
It is immaterial to normal fans POV, purely because we have heard this every year for about 10 years and every Manager has been backed. It would be naive to think Beale won't have a budget in the summer.

I've no idea what that budget will be but the assumption Rangers won't spend anything because they don't have high value assets has proven to be inaccurate over the years. I've given the example on wages as one area where we have a decent amount to reinvest regardless of how much it ends up being.
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Couple of things-I never mentioned anything about a budget, so I don’t disagree that there will be one. No idea why that’s the bit you’ve mentioned.

In the modern game, the ‘normal’ fan should be taking some degree of interest about where money is coming from, and especially what’s happening with it. That leads me into the next bit-my point stands about the wages you suggest you’re paying for Mcgregor, Helander, Arfield and Davies. If you’re paying the 4 of them £100k per week, then that’s just completely mental. 3 of them only re-signed last summer, and most saw them as bit part players.

Maybe you’ve confused me with some other posters that do mention about rangers being skint a fair bit. That’s not been my view though.

posted on 14/4/23

Rangers have lost £111M in the last decade.

In other news, Celtic will receive £10M when Frimpong is sold to Manyoo.

posted on 14/4/23

Timmy Ref adding 9 minutes in the Ross County vs Aberdeen match. Blatant cheating.

posted on 14/4/23

comment by Zico 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 Fold like a ... (U21900)
posted 29 minutes ago
Timmy Ref adding 9 minutes in the Ross County vs Aberdeen match. Blatant cheating.
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That was never a red card. Refs now under pressure to change decisions because one club cried

posted on 14/4/23

Who do we fancy for the National tomorrow? I’m taking a punt on Sam Brown.

I just think he won a good handicap chase very impressively round Aintree’s Mildmay course last year and, in my limited opinion, it’s amazing how many horses who perform well on that course also like the National fences despite it being very different.

Maybe however they just like Liverpool. And as I recall, he ran well first time out but a bit disappointing in between but had a nice warm up for this over hurdles at Uttoxeter recently.

But what do I know?

posted on 14/4/23

The brown horse will win

Here endeth my expertise

posted on 15/4/23

comment by PointyBirds (U21890)
posted 8 hours, 20 minutes ago
Who do we fancy for the National tomorrow? I’m taking a punt on Sam Brown.

I just think he won a good handicap chase very impressively round Aintree’s Mildmay course last year and, in my limited opinion, it’s amazing how many horses who perform well on that course also like the National fences despite it being very different.

Maybe however they just like Liverpool. And as I recall, he ran well first time out but a bit disappointing in between but had a nice warm up for this over hurdles at Uttoxeter recently.

But what do I know?
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I backed the winner in the national just once, I picked a name that looked like a Grand National winner - Pineu De Re

comment by Silver (U6112)

posted on 15/4/23

About the only thing I know about horses is a 100% completely useless fact from uni bio-something or other class and that is that a horse epididymis can stretch to >80m. Was amusing at the time.

posted on 15/4/23

Would it really take Usain Bolt 7 seconds to run a horses epididymis?

posted on 15/4/23

comment by System-Addict ••• ••••• •• (U9239)
posted 4 minutes ago
Would it really take Usain Bolt 7 seconds to run a horses epididymis?
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Thought at first you said ruin 🙂

comment by Silver (U6112)

posted on 15/4/23

comment by Why the pallaver (a little more optimistic) (U10168)
posted 14 seconds ago
comment by System-Addict ••• ••••• •• (U9239)
posted 4 minutes ago
Would it really take Usain Bolt 7 seconds to run a horses epididymis?
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Thought at first you said ruin 🙂
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We all did

posted on 15/4/23

comment by Call Sign (U3627)
posted 12 hours, 22 minutes ago
The brown horse will win

Here endeth my expertise
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Neigh, neigh and thrice neigh

Will be a large white stallion for sure

posted on 15/4/23

comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 1 hour, 13 minutes ago
comment by Why the pallaver (a little more optimistic) (U10168)
posted 14 seconds ago
comment by System-Addict ••• ••••• •• (U9239)
posted 4 minutes ago
Would it really take Usain Bolt 7 seconds to run a horses epididymis?
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Thought at first you said ruin 🙂
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We all did
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I wish I had 😭

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