Pretty much sums it up.... well said
Tottenham seemed like a club designed to be sold to the next nation state only they baulked at the price and chose Newcastle instead.
Once the Qatari's and Saudi's have their teams in the PL. You will have to wait for the Bahrain gravy train.
comment by HB Fashion Sakala is offside again (U21935)
posted 1 minute ago
Tottenham seemed like a club designed to be sold to the next nation state only they baulked at the price and chose Newcastle instead.
Once the Qatari's and Saudi's have their teams in the PL. You will have to wait for the Bahrain gravy train.
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Pretty much
Can't disagree with that. I think the reason why the stadium is so great and the training ground is unrivalled is because those are very linear decisions with a guaranteed output. If you spend in those areas, you know what you're paying for. Levy and ENIC's biggest downfall isn't the amount they spend, despite protestations to the contrary by many of our fan-base. It's the footballing decisions. What is our philosopy? What players are we buying? What manager / DoF do we need to bring in? Those are the very bedrock of any successful football club and we repeatedly get those areas wrong. It requires a football instinct. Levy doesn't have any.
When he makes plans for a new stadium he says "we want the best people in the world on this" and they produce the goods.
When he recruits a manager he again says "we want the best people in the world on this" but they don't produce.
I don't think he understands that sport is unique in that it's not about the best manager, it's about the right manager. He made that mistake with Jose. He made it again with Conte and I've little faith in him realising his mistake and he'll probably go for the hat trick this summer by bringing in Luis Enrique.
Financially, we're spending similar levels to Arsenal and Liverpool so we're not too bad but the decisions have been fecking woeful for 20 years now. Our best three managers in the Prem era - Jol, Redknapp and Poch were flukes on Levy's part. One was an assistant to yet another pointless big name in Santini, the other was appointed to save us from relegation and ended up taking us to the CL and Poch came in because Van Gaal turned us down to go to United.
I'm hoping Scott Munn takes over all football related decisions and takes a more holistic view of making a plan of who we are and what we want to be before deciding on any manager or DoF we bring in. Then, and only then, we pass that message onto the academy that THIS is how we play. This is us. This is what we want our kids to be drilled on before they're promoted to the first team. That's how it should be done.
It won't though will it. Not with "Coys, Daniel" at the helm.
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 3 minutes ago
Can't disagree with that. I think the reason why the stadium is so great and the training ground is unrivalled is because those are very linear decisions with a guaranteed output. If you spend in those areas, you know what you're paying for. Levy and ENIC's biggest downfall isn't the amount they spend, despite protestations to the contrary by many of our fan-base. It's the footballing decisions. What is our philosopy? What players are we buying? What manager / DoF do we need to bring in? Those are the very bedrock of any successful football club and we repeatedly get those areas wrong. It requires a football instinct. Levy doesn't have any.
When he makes plans for a new stadium he says "we want the best people in the world on this" and they produce the goods.
When he recruits a manager he again says "we want the best people in the world on this" but they don't produce.
I don't think he understands that sport is unique in that it's not about the best manager, it's about the right manager. He made that mistake with Jose. He made it again with Conte and I've little faith in him realising his mistake and he'll probably go for the hat trick this summer by bringing in Luis Enrique.
Financially, we're spending similar levels to Arsenal and Liverpool so we're not too bad but the decisions have been fecking woeful for 20 years now. Our best three managers in the Prem era - Jol, Redknapp and Poch were flukes on Levy's part. One was an assistant to yet another pointless big name in Santini, the other was appointed to save us from relegation and ended up taking us to the CL and Poch came in because Van Gaal turned us down to go to United.
I'm hoping Scott Munn takes over all football related decisions and takes a more holistic view of making a plan of who we are and what we want to be before deciding on any manager or DoF we bring in. Then, and only then, we pass that message onto the academy that THIS is how we play. This is us. This is what we want our kids to be drilled on before they're promoted to the first team. That's how it should be done.
It won't though will it. Not with "Coys, Daniel" at the helm.
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Agreed. For all of the talk of clubs like Man City having brought their success etc, the fact is that money doesn't always equate to on-field success. Where their owners have been brilliant is in hiring people who know about football and then quietly letting them get about their jobs with minimal interference or obstruction. Yes it helps that that they aren't always haggling over the last pound when it comes to player recruitment but the fact is that we don't have to either, but for whatever we've fallen into the buy cheap, buy twice trap which always ends up costing more in the end anyway - the most recent case in point being splashing 15million or whatever it was on Spence only to have to buy another even more expensive right back in the January window.
“the club is in amazing financial health”
😂😂
I have a feeling Scott Munn is a Vivienne Lewis appointment. Just a hunch.
It must honestly be so frustrating because the commercial decisions and such have been so good and they have made you into a bigger team, but then the signings and managerial appointments have just been a clusterfeck.
It's not like the money hasn't been spent, it's just been spent recklessly
OP
Welcome to the 21st century. Football long ago ceased to be about passion, love, emotional connection etc.
The Financially doped clubs put paid to all that.
No good keep harping back. I often get told not to, so just get with the times, and realise the best days of fooball are long gone, and it is just a money making business now. Spurs it may surprise you are not alone in this.
I still enjoy the buzz of going to WHL, but it is absolutely nothing like it used to be, when you could just turn up on the day home or away, pay your money and stand on the terraces and give it your best for 90 minutes.
Football has changed for the worse, but it is what it is. And you either take it or leave it. Nobody is forced to go to a game. The choice is all yours, so you may as well enjoy it as best you can.
I shall be back again next season even if Spurs lose the rest of the games this season, because I love my club, and will support them through thick and thin.
Plenty of fans enjoy emotional connection to their club. We had it under Poch and I’m pretty sure fans of Brighton,Newcastle, woolwich are enjoying it right now. It’s all about how the club is run, the people in charge leading a culture in tune with the traditions of the club.
Levy destroyed the culture when he hired Jose. Apart from the obvious WUM on here, no spurs fan I know has felt much connection with the club since then. If we don’t have our traditions then we don’t have our identity
That is why I want levy out. He is not the man we need to get us back to where we want to be. He has had enough chances. He even said he knew what our DNA was, then he hired Nuno.
We need to make things so so uncomfortable for levythat he has to relinquish control of footballing matters and stay out completely.
I’m glad to read fans like you talking in this way, it’s the one thing levy can’t buy. Tottenham is nothing without its soul. We fans are that soul.
comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
posted 31 minutes ago
I shall be back again next season even if Spurs lose the rest of the games this season, because I love my Levy, and will support him through thick and thin.
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Battered Sandy syndrome
comment by Striketeam7 - the smartest person you know - Bronze medal khunt 2022 - Buy..Bellingham and another mid 20s Thiago type...lets just call him "frank" (U18109)
posted 25 minutes ago
comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
posted 31 minutes ago
I shall be back again next season even if Spurs lose the rest of the games this season, because I love my Levy, and will support him through thick and thin.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Battered Sandy syndrome
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Stockhome syndrome for sure
comment by Citizen Smeg. Is Levy a Gooner? This is not To... (U6574)
posted 55 minutes ago
Plenty of fans enjoy emotional connection to their club. We had it under Poch and I’m pretty sure fans of Brighton,Newcastle, woolwich are enjoying it right now. It’s all about how the club is run, the people in charge leading a culture in tune with the traditions of the club.
Levy destroyed the culture when he hired Jose. Apart from the obvious WUM on here, no spurs fan I know has felt much connection with the club since then. If we don’t have our traditions then we don’t have our identity
That is why I want levy out. He is not the man we need to get us back to where we want to be. He has had enough chances. He even said he knew what our DNA was, then he hired Nuno.
We need to make things so so uncomfortable for levythat he has to relinquish control of footballing matters and stay out completely.
I’m glad to read fans like you talking in this way, it’s the one thing levy can’t buy. Tottenham is nothing without its soul. We fans are that soul.
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Newcastle and Woolwich fans have been moaning for years about their club. Just because they are having one good season, don't mean next year they won't be moaning again next season about their club.
comment by Striketeam7 - the smartest person you know - B... (U18109)
posted 55 minutes ago
comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
posted 31 minutes ago
I shall be back again next season even if Spurs lose the rest of the games this season, because I love my Levy, and will support him through thick and thin.
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Battered Sandy syndrome
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Nah just a supporter. I am fed up with the constant nonsense about the owners and Pochettino. Who gives a feck?
comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 32 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - the smartest person you know - Bronze medal khunt 2022 - Buy..Bellingham and another mid 20s Thiago type...lets just call him "frank" (U18109)
posted 25 minutes ago
comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
posted 31 minutes ago
I shall be back again next season even if Spurs lose the rest of the games this season, because I love my Levy, and will support him through thick and thin.
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Battered Sandy syndrome
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Stockhome syndrome for sure
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Go to a game Don.
https://changefortottenham.com/
Comment deleted by Site Moderator
The thing is, these days, people who continue to turn up through thick and thin are not supporting Spurs anymore, they are supporting ENIC.
Tottenham Hotspur Football Club ceased being a serious footballing concern years ago, these days it is nothing but a means to increase the value of the owners investment.
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posted on 26/4/23
Pretty much sums it up.... well said
posted on 26/4/23
Tottenham seemed like a club designed to be sold to the next nation state only they baulked at the price and chose Newcastle instead.
Once the Qatari's and Saudi's have their teams in the PL. You will have to wait for the Bahrain gravy train.
posted on 26/4/23
comment by HB Fashion Sakala is offside again (U21935)
posted 1 minute ago
Tottenham seemed like a club designed to be sold to the next nation state only they baulked at the price and chose Newcastle instead.
Once the Qatari's and Saudi's have their teams in the PL. You will have to wait for the Bahrain gravy train.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Pretty much
posted on 26/4/23
Can't disagree with that. I think the reason why the stadium is so great and the training ground is unrivalled is because those are very linear decisions with a guaranteed output. If you spend in those areas, you know what you're paying for. Levy and ENIC's biggest downfall isn't the amount they spend, despite protestations to the contrary by many of our fan-base. It's the footballing decisions. What is our philosopy? What players are we buying? What manager / DoF do we need to bring in? Those are the very bedrock of any successful football club and we repeatedly get those areas wrong. It requires a football instinct. Levy doesn't have any.
When he makes plans for a new stadium he says "we want the best people in the world on this" and they produce the goods.
When he recruits a manager he again says "we want the best people in the world on this" but they don't produce.
I don't think he understands that sport is unique in that it's not about the best manager, it's about the right manager. He made that mistake with Jose. He made it again with Conte and I've little faith in him realising his mistake and he'll probably go for the hat trick this summer by bringing in Luis Enrique.
Financially, we're spending similar levels to Arsenal and Liverpool so we're not too bad but the decisions have been fecking woeful for 20 years now. Our best three managers in the Prem era - Jol, Redknapp and Poch were flukes on Levy's part. One was an assistant to yet another pointless big name in Santini, the other was appointed to save us from relegation and ended up taking us to the CL and Poch came in because Van Gaal turned us down to go to United.
I'm hoping Scott Munn takes over all football related decisions and takes a more holistic view of making a plan of who we are and what we want to be before deciding on any manager or DoF we bring in. Then, and only then, we pass that message onto the academy that THIS is how we play. This is us. This is what we want our kids to be drilled on before they're promoted to the first team. That's how it should be done.
It won't though will it. Not with "Coys, Daniel" at the helm.
posted on 26/4/23
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 3 minutes ago
Can't disagree with that. I think the reason why the stadium is so great and the training ground is unrivalled is because those are very linear decisions with a guaranteed output. If you spend in those areas, you know what you're paying for. Levy and ENIC's biggest downfall isn't the amount they spend, despite protestations to the contrary by many of our fan-base. It's the footballing decisions. What is our philosopy? What players are we buying? What manager / DoF do we need to bring in? Those are the very bedrock of any successful football club and we repeatedly get those areas wrong. It requires a football instinct. Levy doesn't have any.
When he makes plans for a new stadium he says "we want the best people in the world on this" and they produce the goods.
When he recruits a manager he again says "we want the best people in the world on this" but they don't produce.
I don't think he understands that sport is unique in that it's not about the best manager, it's about the right manager. He made that mistake with Jose. He made it again with Conte and I've little faith in him realising his mistake and he'll probably go for the hat trick this summer by bringing in Luis Enrique.
Financially, we're spending similar levels to Arsenal and Liverpool so we're not too bad but the decisions have been fecking woeful for 20 years now. Our best three managers in the Prem era - Jol, Redknapp and Poch were flukes on Levy's part. One was an assistant to yet another pointless big name in Santini, the other was appointed to save us from relegation and ended up taking us to the CL and Poch came in because Van Gaal turned us down to go to United.
I'm hoping Scott Munn takes over all football related decisions and takes a more holistic view of making a plan of who we are and what we want to be before deciding on any manager or DoF we bring in. Then, and only then, we pass that message onto the academy that THIS is how we play. This is us. This is what we want our kids to be drilled on before they're promoted to the first team. That's how it should be done.
It won't though will it. Not with "Coys, Daniel" at the helm.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Agreed. For all of the talk of clubs like Man City having brought their success etc, the fact is that money doesn't always equate to on-field success. Where their owners have been brilliant is in hiring people who know about football and then quietly letting them get about their jobs with minimal interference or obstruction. Yes it helps that that they aren't always haggling over the last pound when it comes to player recruitment but the fact is that we don't have to either, but for whatever we've fallen into the buy cheap, buy twice trap which always ends up costing more in the end anyway - the most recent case in point being splashing 15million or whatever it was on Spence only to have to buy another even more expensive right back in the January window.
posted on 26/4/23
“the club is in amazing financial health”
😂😂
posted on 26/4/23
I have a feeling Scott Munn is a Vivienne Lewis appointment. Just a hunch.
posted on 26/4/23
It must honestly be so frustrating because the commercial decisions and such have been so good and they have made you into a bigger team, but then the signings and managerial appointments have just been a clusterfeck.
It's not like the money hasn't been spent, it's just been spent recklessly
posted on 26/4/23
OP
Welcome to the 21st century. Football long ago ceased to be about passion, love, emotional connection etc.
The Financially doped clubs put paid to all that.
No good keep harping back. I often get told not to, so just get with the times, and realise the best days of fooball are long gone, and it is just a money making business now. Spurs it may surprise you are not alone in this.
I still enjoy the buzz of going to WHL, but it is absolutely nothing like it used to be, when you could just turn up on the day home or away, pay your money and stand on the terraces and give it your best for 90 minutes.
Football has changed for the worse, but it is what it is. And you either take it or leave it. Nobody is forced to go to a game. The choice is all yours, so you may as well enjoy it as best you can.
I shall be back again next season even if Spurs lose the rest of the games this season, because I love my club, and will support them through thick and thin.
posted on 26/4/23
Plenty of fans enjoy emotional connection to their club. We had it under Poch and I’m pretty sure fans of Brighton,Newcastle, woolwich are enjoying it right now. It’s all about how the club is run, the people in charge leading a culture in tune with the traditions of the club.
Levy destroyed the culture when he hired Jose. Apart from the obvious WUM on here, no spurs fan I know has felt much connection with the club since then. If we don’t have our traditions then we don’t have our identity
That is why I want levy out. He is not the man we need to get us back to where we want to be. He has had enough chances. He even said he knew what our DNA was, then he hired Nuno.
We need to make things so so uncomfortable for levythat he has to relinquish control of footballing matters and stay out completely.
I’m glad to read fans like you talking in this way, it’s the one thing levy can’t buy. Tottenham is nothing without its soul. We fans are that soul.
posted on 26/4/23
comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
posted 31 minutes ago
I shall be back again next season even if Spurs lose the rest of the games this season, because I love my Levy, and will support him through thick and thin.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Battered Sandy syndrome
posted on 26/4/23
comment by Striketeam7 - the smartest person you know - Bronze medal khunt 2022 - Buy..Bellingham and another mid 20s Thiago type...lets just call him "frank" (U18109)
posted 25 minutes ago
comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
posted 31 minutes ago
I shall be back again next season even if Spurs lose the rest of the games this season, because I love my Levy, and will support him through thick and thin.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Battered Sandy syndrome
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Stockhome syndrome for sure
posted on 26/4/23
Stockholm *
posted on 26/4/23
comment by Citizen Smeg. Is Levy a Gooner? This is not To... (U6574)
posted 55 minutes ago
Plenty of fans enjoy emotional connection to their club. We had it under Poch and I’m pretty sure fans of Brighton,Newcastle, woolwich are enjoying it right now. It’s all about how the club is run, the people in charge leading a culture in tune with the traditions of the club.
Levy destroyed the culture when he hired Jose. Apart from the obvious WUM on here, no spurs fan I know has felt much connection with the club since then. If we don’t have our traditions then we don’t have our identity
That is why I want levy out. He is not the man we need to get us back to where we want to be. He has had enough chances. He even said he knew what our DNA was, then he hired Nuno.
We need to make things so so uncomfortable for levythat he has to relinquish control of footballing matters and stay out completely.
I’m glad to read fans like you talking in this way, it’s the one thing levy can’t buy. Tottenham is nothing without its soul. We fans are that soul.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Newcastle and Woolwich fans have been moaning for years about their club. Just because they are having one good season, don't mean next year they won't be moaning again next season about their club.
posted on 26/4/23
comment by Striketeam7 - the smartest person you know - B... (U18109)
posted 55 minutes ago
comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
posted 31 minutes ago
I shall be back again next season even if Spurs lose the rest of the games this season, because I love my Levy, and will support him through thick and thin.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Battered Sandy syndrome
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Nah just a supporter. I am fed up with the constant nonsense about the owners and Pochettino. Who gives a feck?
posted on 26/4/23
comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 32 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - the smartest person you know - Bronze medal khunt 2022 - Buy..Bellingham and another mid 20s Thiago type...lets just call him "frank" (U18109)
posted 25 minutes ago
comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
posted 31 minutes ago
I shall be back again next season even if Spurs lose the rest of the games this season, because I love my Levy, and will support him through thick and thin.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Battered Sandy syndrome
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Stockhome syndrome for sure
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Go to a game Don.
posted on 26/4/23
https://changefortottenham.com/
posted on 26/4/23
Comment deleted by Site Moderator
posted on 26/4/23
The thing is, these days, people who continue to turn up through thick and thin are not supporting Spurs anymore, they are supporting ENIC.
Tottenham Hotspur Football Club ceased being a serious footballing concern years ago, these days it is nothing but a means to increase the value of the owners investment.
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