Not for me.....football is about winning....yes there's only 3/4 trophies up for grabs but if the wheels fell off in the league like they have
But we still had a cup final to look forward too and we won it....I'd be buzzing my t!ts off.
As a fan there is nothing better than winning a trophy.
FA Cup final days are great when your team is involved, and even better when you win. Finishing 2nd has nothing on that.
What this season has done is bring a bot of optimism back. A feeling we are moving in the right direction and performances to back it up. We can have a summer where we look forward to the new season and CL.
However, this can all quickly be slapped down next season.
My greatest memories as a fan are of Arsenal winning things. That 3-2 over Hull is far greater imprinted in my mind than 2nd placed finishes.
Doubt anyone will remember the Conte years at Spurs in 5 years time, entertaining football is what it's all about and Arsenal have that in abundance
Trophies are what fans really remember. Arsenal have had a great run in the league this season, I think it’ll be difficult to replicate next time round but with the right signings I’m sure you can do well again next season.
Ultimately, Arteta needs to challenge on more front to win a trophy and that’s the difference between Coties squad and the rest.
For a fan a trophy should always comes higher than a league position. Unfortunately its been about money since the formation of the PL.
You get more for finishing last in the PL than for winning the Carabao Cup.
To someone like Levy winning the Carabao Cup means fack all but the fans would be delighted.
Everyone remembers cup wins… not what position you finish one the league unless you win it of course.
So I’d say winning trophies is what maters to the majority of fans.
Think it really depends on circumstances. If we'd been poor in the league and won the league cup it wouldn't look great for the future, the project or whatever - this season the manager and team needed to push forward given the money spent and they certainly have.
We've clearly made massive strides despite the bottle job of the two games prior to City in particular.
However as mentioned at the beginning it's also about other circumstances, we're currently not on a massive trophy drought for instance. If we were then getting one, even a league cup would feel perhaps more special and might be more of a springboard to future success.
Spurs fans trolling Woolwich after yday is very sad.
It's all abit West Hammy and Jamie O'Hara ish.
Lets get our own house in order before trying to pathetically troll another club 👍🏻
Nothing better than winning a trophy at the end of a competition. That is what it is all about, isnt it?
After years of transition and sort our squad to the team we have now it's different for Arsenal. We competed long enough with a doped monster that is Man City.
We have come far and progressed footballwise no doubt. We just have to built on this season hopefully with wise transfer decisions in the summer.
It depends on circumstances. Ours are simple though, a trophy is far better than top 4 - who cares we made top 4 last season? Top 4 is great if you can use it to buy better players - we never and I mean never do bar the exception to prove the rule Van der Vaart.
Has to be trophies. Although I would take our Champions league run to the final over winning a League cup - so there are further levels there. I mean the miracle in Amsterdam is up there with beating Leicester in 99 with 10 men and Woodgate and King turning into Baresi and Maldini for a day in 2008.
1991 was great because we beat Arsenal in the semi - Gazza’s free kick being iconic and then beat Forest in the final despite every single little break going against us until extra time.
comment by LukaBrasi COYS (U22178)
posted 5 minutes ago
Spurs fans trolling Woolwich after yday is very sad.
It's all abit West Hammy and Jamie O'Hara ish.
Lets get our own house in order before trying to pathetically troll another club 👍🏻
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Isn't it anything to do with the way a trophy is/would be won, for any of you?
Take our most recent cup final - we snuck past Chelsea on pens, then beat Stoke and Brentford to face City in the final, in which we tried to play for a 0-0 for 90 mins. Forget the fact that fans weren't there, even if they were, I just can't see how winning that would have made anyone feel 'proud' than any of the highs we had under Poch!
There is no comparison for a Cup vs 2nd Place. The amount of times opposition fans remind us of not achieving anything by coming 2nd. United, if they beat City, will have just a successful campaign as we did last season (on paper).
comment by LukaBrasi COYS (U22178)
posted 17 minutes ago
Spurs fans trolling Woolwich after yday is very sad.
It's all abit West Hammy and Jamie O'Hara ish.
Lets get our own house in order before trying to pathetically troll another club 👍🏻
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Of course Spurs fans will troll Arsenal fans, its part of our DNA, and you would expect it the other way around. The clubs have been nrigjbours for for over 100 years. So you would hardly expect any Spurs fan want Arsenal to win the league, whatever Spurs have done.
1993 was great. Arsenal being the 1st club to win both domestic cups. That is much better than Top4
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posted 1 minute ago
comment by LukaBrasi COYS (U22178)
posted 17 minutes ago
Spurs fans trolling Woolwich after yday is very sad.
It's all abit West Hammy and Jamie O'Hara ish.
Lets get our own house in order before trying to pathetically troll another club 👍🏻
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Of course Spurs fans will troll Arsenal fans, its part of our DNA, and you would expect it the other way around. The clubs have been nrigjbours for for over 100 years. So you would hardly expect any Spurs fan want Arsenal to win the league, whatever Spurs have done.
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Oh look, the number one idiot on the board is defending more idiotic behaviour. Surprise surprise.
How you are Sandy, Simon B, Steve F, Shandy? You good?
comment by SpursBoy101 (U21819)
posted 9 minutes ago
Isn't it anything to do with the way a trophy is/would be won, for any of you?
Take our most recent cup final - we snuck past Chelsea on pens, then beat Stoke and Brentford to face City in the final, in which we tried to play for a 0-0 for 90 mins. Forget the fact that fans weren't there, even if they were, I just can't see how winning that would have made anyone feel 'proud' than any of the highs we had under Poch!
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Go look up Aston Villa’s European cup triumph, half the sides don’t exist anymore - doesn’t diminish winning it.
1999 - we scraped past Wimbledon 1-0 over two legs and were then outplayed for most of the final by Leicester - we scored completely against the run of play
1991 - we beat Blackpool, Notts county and Portsmouth on our way to winning that cup and Blackpool and Pompey ran us ragged.
Very rare you will play West Ham, Chelsea, Arsenal, United, City, Liverpool all in the same cup comp
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posted 1 minute ago
comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by LukaBrasi COYS (U22178)
posted 17 minutes ago
Spurs fans trolling Woolwich after yday is very sad.
It's all abit West Hammy and Jamie O'Hara ish.
Lets get our own house in order before trying to pathetically troll another club 👍🏻
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Of course Spurs fans will troll Arsenal fans, its part of our DNA, and you would expect it the other way around. The clubs have been nrigjbours for for over 100 years. So you would hardly expect any Spurs fan want Arsenal to win the league, whatever Spurs have done.
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Oh look, the number one idiot on the board is defending more idiotic behaviour. Surprise surprise.
How you are Sandy, Simon B, Steve F, Shandy? You good?
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What the matter with you this morning Karen? You’ve woken up all grumpy and picking fights with people - your not secretly a Gooner are you?
Stikemug, how many lines have you had this morning?
Mr know it all. Always giving it the big un. Have a day off.
After we get smashed by Utd tonight you're gonna go back to being an angry girl and calling Levy a khunt to make yourself look hard again 🤡🤣🤡 .
It's all about you though 🤣🤡🤣
comment by SpursBoy101 (U21819)
posted 20 minutes ago
Isn't it anything to do with the way a trophy is/would be won, for any of you?
Take our most recent cup final - we snuck past Chelsea on pens, then beat Stoke and Brentford to face City in the final, in which we tried to play for a 0-0 for 90 mins. Forget the fact that fans weren't there, even if they were, I just can't see how winning that would have made anyone feel 'proud' than any of the highs we had under Poch!
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Winning the 2005 FA Cup final on penalties after being battered by Man Utd for 120 minutes was absolute joy... 😂😂
As a few people have said it depends on circumstance
We've finished second several times before and the season has been an abject failure
But it's been a while since we've been anywhere near the top so that does make it a successful season in my opinion, particularly as our squad is so young. And of course back in the CL.
Doesn't mean I'm not disappointed how it's panning out though.
comment by LukaBrasi COYS (U22178)
posted 8 minutes ago
Stikemug, how many lines have you had this morning?
Mr know it all. Always giving it the big un. Have a day off.
After we get smashed by Utd tonight you're gonna go back to being an angry girl and calling Levy a khunt to make yourself look hard again 🤡🤣🤡 .
It's all about you though 🤣🤡🤣
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Alright Karen, I can see you are having a tough morning, you just go back to sleep dear, let the grown ups talk
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by SpursBoy101 (U21819)
posted 20 minutes ago
Isn't it anything to do with the way a trophy is/would be won, for any of you?
Take our most recent cup final - we snuck past Chelsea on pens, then beat Stoke and Brentford to face City in the final, in which we tried to play for a 0-0 for 90 mins. Forget the fact that fans weren't there, even if they were, I just can't see how winning that would have made anyone feel 'proud' than any of the highs we had under Poch!
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Winning the 2005 FA Cup final on penalties after being battered by Man Utd for 120 minutes was absolute joy... 😂😂
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Exactly, sometimes winning when being battered makes it better
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by SpursBoy101 (U21819)
posted 20 minutes ago
Isn't it anything to do with the way a trophy is/would be won, for any of you?
Take our most recent cup final - we snuck past Chelsea on pens, then beat Stoke and Brentford to face City in the final, in which we tried to play for a 0-0 for 90 mins. Forget the fact that fans weren't there, even if they were, I just can't see how winning that would have made anyone feel 'proud' than any of the highs we had under Poch!
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Winning the 2005 FA Cup final on penalties after being battered by Man Utd for 120 minutes was absolute joy... 😂😂
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Reminds me of 99 CL final. Bayern led for 85 mins, they hit the bar, they hit the post and were the better team overall. Up steps my user name and Ole!! The rest is history!
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by SpursBoy101 (U21819)
posted 20 minutes ago
Isn't it anything to do with the way a trophy is/would be won, for any of you?
Take our most recent cup final - we snuck past Chelsea on pens, then beat Stoke and Brentford to face City in the final, in which we tried to play for a 0-0 for 90 mins. Forget the fact that fans weren't there, even if they were, I just can't see how winning that would have made anyone feel 'proud' than any of the highs we had under Poch!
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Winning the 2005 FA Cup final on penalties after being battered by Man Utd for 120 minutes was absolute joy... 😂😂
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Yeah I can understand that - we were battered by Ajax in 3 halves out of 4, only decided to play in the last 45 minutes and snuck through to the final on away goals - probably a similar feeling.
I don't know - obviously we didn't actually win that cup in 2021 so it's hard to know exactly how I would have felt, and I realise I'm just focusing in on this specific final. I just honestly find the whole trophyless thing a little.. hollow.
Everyone takes the mick out of Kane for not having a trophy with us - like I say, if Laporte hadn't scored and we had somehow managed to hold off the City onslaught for another 30 mins and our luck was in on the lottery of penalties, would that make Kane's time with us that much better because he had won one trophy, during an otherwise abysmal point in time for the club? Compared with the days under Poch when, for the most part, we were playing so well that the next game couldn't come soon enough.. I just don't get it.
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posted on 27/4/23
Not for me.....football is about winning....yes there's only 3/4 trophies up for grabs but if the wheels fell off in the league like they have
But we still had a cup final to look forward too and we won it....I'd be buzzing my t!ts off.
posted on 27/4/23
As a fan there is nothing better than winning a trophy.
FA Cup final days are great when your team is involved, and even better when you win. Finishing 2nd has nothing on that.
What this season has done is bring a bot of optimism back. A feeling we are moving in the right direction and performances to back it up. We can have a summer where we look forward to the new season and CL.
However, this can all quickly be slapped down next season.
My greatest memories as a fan are of Arsenal winning things. That 3-2 over Hull is far greater imprinted in my mind than 2nd placed finishes.
posted on 27/4/23
Doubt anyone will remember the Conte years at Spurs in 5 years time, entertaining football is what it's all about and Arsenal have that in abundance
posted on 27/4/23
Trophies are what fans really remember. Arsenal have had a great run in the league this season, I think it’ll be difficult to replicate next time round but with the right signings I’m sure you can do well again next season.
Ultimately, Arteta needs to challenge on more front to win a trophy and that’s the difference between Coties squad and the rest.
posted on 27/4/23
For a fan a trophy should always comes higher than a league position. Unfortunately its been about money since the formation of the PL.
You get more for finishing last in the PL than for winning the Carabao Cup.
To someone like Levy winning the Carabao Cup means fack all but the fans would be delighted.
posted on 27/4/23
Everyone remembers cup wins… not what position you finish one the league unless you win it of course.
So I’d say winning trophies is what maters to the majority of fans.
posted on 27/4/23
Think it really depends on circumstances. If we'd been poor in the league and won the league cup it wouldn't look great for the future, the project or whatever - this season the manager and team needed to push forward given the money spent and they certainly have.
We've clearly made massive strides despite the bottle job of the two games prior to City in particular.
However as mentioned at the beginning it's also about other circumstances, we're currently not on a massive trophy drought for instance. If we were then getting one, even a league cup would feel perhaps more special and might be more of a springboard to future success.
posted on 27/4/23
Spurs fans trolling Woolwich after yday is very sad.
It's all abit West Hammy and Jamie O'Hara ish.
Lets get our own house in order before trying to pathetically troll another club 👍🏻
posted on 27/4/23
Nothing better than winning a trophy at the end of a competition. That is what it is all about, isnt it?
After years of transition and sort our squad to the team we have now it's different for Arsenal. We competed long enough with a doped monster that is Man City.
We have come far and progressed footballwise no doubt. We just have to built on this season hopefully with wise transfer decisions in the summer.
posted on 27/4/23
It depends on circumstances. Ours are simple though, a trophy is far better than top 4 - who cares we made top 4 last season? Top 4 is great if you can use it to buy better players - we never and I mean never do bar the exception to prove the rule Van der Vaart.
Has to be trophies. Although I would take our Champions league run to the final over winning a League cup - so there are further levels there. I mean the miracle in Amsterdam is up there with beating Leicester in 99 with 10 men and Woodgate and King turning into Baresi and Maldini for a day in 2008.
1991 was great because we beat Arsenal in the semi - Gazza’s free kick being iconic and then beat Forest in the final despite every single little break going against us until extra time.
posted on 27/4/23
comment by LukaBrasi COYS (U22178)
posted 5 minutes ago
Spurs fans trolling Woolwich after yday is very sad.
It's all abit West Hammy and Jamie O'Hara ish.
Lets get our own house in order before trying to pathetically troll another club 👍🏻
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posted on 27/4/23
Isn't it anything to do with the way a trophy is/would be won, for any of you?
Take our most recent cup final - we snuck past Chelsea on pens, then beat Stoke and Brentford to face City in the final, in which we tried to play for a 0-0 for 90 mins. Forget the fact that fans weren't there, even if they were, I just can't see how winning that would have made anyone feel 'proud' than any of the highs we had under Poch!
posted on 27/4/23
There is no comparison for a Cup vs 2nd Place. The amount of times opposition fans remind us of not achieving anything by coming 2nd. United, if they beat City, will have just a successful campaign as we did last season (on paper).
posted on 27/4/23
comment by LukaBrasi COYS (U22178)
posted 17 minutes ago
Spurs fans trolling Woolwich after yday is very sad.
It's all abit West Hammy and Jamie O'Hara ish.
Lets get our own house in order before trying to pathetically troll another club 👍🏻
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Of course Spurs fans will troll Arsenal fans, its part of our DNA, and you would expect it the other way around. The clubs have been nrigjbours for for over 100 years. So you would hardly expect any Spurs fan want Arsenal to win the league, whatever Spurs have done.
posted on 27/4/23
1993 was great. Arsenal being the 1st club to win both domestic cups. That is much better than Top4
posted on 27/4/23
comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by LukaBrasi COYS (U22178)
posted 17 minutes ago
Spurs fans trolling Woolwich after yday is very sad.
It's all abit West Hammy and Jamie O'Hara ish.
Lets get our own house in order before trying to pathetically troll another club 👍🏻
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Of course Spurs fans will troll Arsenal fans, its part of our DNA, and you would expect it the other way around. The clubs have been nrigjbours for for over 100 years. So you would hardly expect any Spurs fan want Arsenal to win the league, whatever Spurs have done.
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Oh look, the number one idiot on the board is defending more idiotic behaviour. Surprise surprise.
How you are Sandy, Simon B, Steve F, Shandy? You good?
posted on 27/4/23
comment by SpursBoy101 (U21819)
posted 9 minutes ago
Isn't it anything to do with the way a trophy is/would be won, for any of you?
Take our most recent cup final - we snuck past Chelsea on pens, then beat Stoke and Brentford to face City in the final, in which we tried to play for a 0-0 for 90 mins. Forget the fact that fans weren't there, even if they were, I just can't see how winning that would have made anyone feel 'proud' than any of the highs we had under Poch!
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Go look up Aston Villa’s European cup triumph, half the sides don’t exist anymore - doesn’t diminish winning it.
1999 - we scraped past Wimbledon 1-0 over two legs and were then outplayed for most of the final by Leicester - we scored completely against the run of play
1991 - we beat Blackpool, Notts county and Portsmouth on our way to winning that cup and Blackpool and Pompey ran us ragged.
Very rare you will play West Ham, Chelsea, Arsenal, United, City, Liverpool all in the same cup comp
posted on 27/4/23
comment by LukaBrasi COYS (U22178)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by LukaBrasi COYS (U22178)
posted 17 minutes ago
Spurs fans trolling Woolwich after yday is very sad.
It's all abit West Hammy and Jamie O'Hara ish.
Lets get our own house in order before trying to pathetically troll another club 👍🏻
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Of course Spurs fans will troll Arsenal fans, its part of our DNA, and you would expect it the other way around. The clubs have been nrigjbours for for over 100 years. So you would hardly expect any Spurs fan want Arsenal to win the league, whatever Spurs have done.
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Oh look, the number one idiot on the board is defending more idiotic behaviour. Surprise surprise.
How you are Sandy, Simon B, Steve F, Shandy? You good?
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What the matter with you this morning Karen? You’ve woken up all grumpy and picking fights with people - your not secretly a Gooner are you?
posted on 27/4/23
Stikemug, how many lines have you had this morning?
Mr know it all. Always giving it the big un. Have a day off.
After we get smashed by Utd tonight you're gonna go back to being an angry girl and calling Levy a khunt to make yourself look hard again 🤡🤣🤡 .
It's all about you though 🤣🤡🤣
posted on 27/4/23
comment by SpursBoy101 (U21819)
posted 20 minutes ago
Isn't it anything to do with the way a trophy is/would be won, for any of you?
Take our most recent cup final - we snuck past Chelsea on pens, then beat Stoke and Brentford to face City in the final, in which we tried to play for a 0-0 for 90 mins. Forget the fact that fans weren't there, even if they were, I just can't see how winning that would have made anyone feel 'proud' than any of the highs we had under Poch!
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Winning the 2005 FA Cup final on penalties after being battered by Man Utd for 120 minutes was absolute joy... 😂😂
posted on 27/4/23
As a few people have said it depends on circumstance
We've finished second several times before and the season has been an abject failure
But it's been a while since we've been anywhere near the top so that does make it a successful season in my opinion, particularly as our squad is so young. And of course back in the CL.
Doesn't mean I'm not disappointed how it's panning out though.
posted on 27/4/23
comment by LukaBrasi COYS (U22178)
posted 8 minutes ago
Stikemug, how many lines have you had this morning?
Mr know it all. Always giving it the big un. Have a day off.
After we get smashed by Utd tonight you're gonna go back to being an angry girl and calling Levy a khunt to make yourself look hard again 🤡🤣🤡 .
It's all about you though 🤣🤡🤣
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Alright Karen, I can see you are having a tough morning, you just go back to sleep dear, let the grown ups talk
posted on 27/4/23
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by SpursBoy101 (U21819)
posted 20 minutes ago
Isn't it anything to do with the way a trophy is/would be won, for any of you?
Take our most recent cup final - we snuck past Chelsea on pens, then beat Stoke and Brentford to face City in the final, in which we tried to play for a 0-0 for 90 mins. Forget the fact that fans weren't there, even if they were, I just can't see how winning that would have made anyone feel 'proud' than any of the highs we had under Poch!
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Winning the 2005 FA Cup final on penalties after being battered by Man Utd for 120 minutes was absolute joy... 😂😂
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Exactly, sometimes winning when being battered makes it better
posted on 27/4/23
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by SpursBoy101 (U21819)
posted 20 minutes ago
Isn't it anything to do with the way a trophy is/would be won, for any of you?
Take our most recent cup final - we snuck past Chelsea on pens, then beat Stoke and Brentford to face City in the final, in which we tried to play for a 0-0 for 90 mins. Forget the fact that fans weren't there, even if they were, I just can't see how winning that would have made anyone feel 'proud' than any of the highs we had under Poch!
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Winning the 2005 FA Cup final on penalties after being battered by Man Utd for 120 minutes was absolute joy... 😂😂
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Reminds me of 99 CL final. Bayern led for 85 mins, they hit the bar, they hit the post and were the better team overall. Up steps my user name and Ole!! The rest is history!
posted on 27/4/23
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by SpursBoy101 (U21819)
posted 20 minutes ago
Isn't it anything to do with the way a trophy is/would be won, for any of you?
Take our most recent cup final - we snuck past Chelsea on pens, then beat Stoke and Brentford to face City in the final, in which we tried to play for a 0-0 for 90 mins. Forget the fact that fans weren't there, even if they were, I just can't see how winning that would have made anyone feel 'proud' than any of the highs we had under Poch!
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Winning the 2005 FA Cup final on penalties after being battered by Man Utd for 120 minutes was absolute joy... 😂😂
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Yeah I can understand that - we were battered by Ajax in 3 halves out of 4, only decided to play in the last 45 minutes and snuck through to the final on away goals - probably a similar feeling.
I don't know - obviously we didn't actually win that cup in 2021 so it's hard to know exactly how I would have felt, and I realise I'm just focusing in on this specific final. I just honestly find the whole trophyless thing a little.. hollow.
Everyone takes the mick out of Kane for not having a trophy with us - like I say, if Laporte hadn't scored and we had somehow managed to hold off the City onslaught for another 30 mins and our luck was in on the lottery of penalties, would that make Kane's time with us that much better because he had won one trophy, during an otherwise abysmal point in time for the club? Compared with the days under Poch when, for the most part, we were playing so well that the next game couldn't come soon enough.. I just don't get it.
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