Love Varane but I get the feeling he'll be injured again before the final
comment by Pun (U21588)
posted 4 minutes ago
Love Varane but I get the feeling he'll be injured again before the final
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Even if he came in the last few PL games to protect Shaw and Lindelof for the final that would be something. If he's fit though I think he plays the final with Shaw reverting back to LB. Lindelof to partner him.
comment by Diafol Coch 77 (U2462)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Pun (U21588)
posted 4 minutes ago
Love Varane but I get the feeling he'll be injured again before the final
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Even if he came in the last few PL games to protect Shaw and Lindelof for the final that would be something. If he's fit though I think he plays the final with Shaw reverting back to LB. Lindelof to partner him.
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Lindelof has done well lately but personally I’d go with Shaw CB. It worked against them at OT where we kept Haaland very quiet.
I think Martinez is a bigger miss for us than Varane.
Personally I have not really been all that impressed with Varane this season.
Before the injury he was looking solid tbf but for much of the season before that he was somewhat unconvincing.
comment by comic book guy (U17816)
posted 4 minutes ago
I think Martinez is a bigger miss for us than Varane.
Personally I have not really been all that impressed with Varane this season.
Before the injury he was looking solid tbf but for much of the season before that he was somewhat unconvincing.
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I disagree with all of that.
We haven’t missed Martinez that much at all when Shaw plays at LCB. It’s only when it’s Maguire or Lindelof play there that we see a massive drop off.
Varane has been very good most of the season when fit. Because of his pace and how well he reads the game what he does goes under the radar a bit.
It’s a bit like Rio and Vidic where because Vidic was more all action he often got more recognition than Rio.
The only weakness in Varane’s game is that he isn’t fantastic on the ball.
The manager said this in his press conference
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by comic book guy (U17816)
posted 4 minutes ago
I think Martinez is a bigger miss for us than Varane.
Personally I have not really been all that impressed with Varane this season.
Before the injury he was looking solid tbf but for much of the season before that he was somewhat unconvincing.
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I disagree with all of that.
We haven’t missed Martinez that much at all when Shaw plays at LCB. It’s only when it’s Maguire or Lindelof play there that we see a massive drop off.
Varane has been very good most of the season when fit. Because of his pace and how well he reads the game what he does goes under the radar a bit.
It’s a bit like Rio and Vidic where because Vidic was more all action he often got more recognition than Rio.
The only weakness in Varane’s game is that he isn’t fantastic on the ball.
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I think they're equally important.
Shaw has played the Martinez role well, but Martinez is also a very important leader on the pitch. We miss him massively.
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 19 minutes ago
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by comic book guy (U17816)
posted 4 minutes ago
I think Martinez is a bigger miss for us than Varane.
Personally I have not really been all that impressed with Varane this season.
Before the injury he was looking solid tbf but for much of the season before that he was somewhat unconvincing.
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I disagree with all of that.
We haven’t missed Martinez that much at all when Shaw plays at LCB. It’s only when it’s Maguire or Lindelof play there that we see a massive drop off.
Varane has been very good most of the season when fit. Because of his pace and how well he reads the game what he does goes under the radar a bit.
It’s a bit like Rio and Vidic where because Vidic was more all action he often got more recognition than Rio.
The only weakness in Varane’s game is that he isn’t fantastic on the ball.
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I think they're equally important.
Shaw has played the Martinez role well, but Martinez is also a very important leader on the pitch. We miss him massively.
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I’m just playing devils advocate here as I really like him and think he’s been a great signing but strangely results suggest otherwise to your last sentence.
I was rather hoping Bellingham might see sense and come to United.
But better Real Madrid than Liverpool or City 🤮
comment by Jalisco Red (U4195)
posted 50 seconds ago
I was rather hoping Bellingham might see sense and come to United.
But better Real Madrid than Liverpool or City 🤮
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Yeah this. I'm a big fan of his.
comment by Pun (U21588)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Jalisco Red (U4195)
posted 50 seconds ago
I was rather hoping Bellingham might see sense and come to United.
But better Real Madrid than Liverpool or City 🤮
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Yeah this. I'm a big fan of his.
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I think it's the right move for him. He'll always have an opportunity to play in the PL but this may be his one and only chance of going to Madrid. The fact he's already played abroad will help as well.
I wonder what the Romano nay-sayers will have on this one.
Thought he was nailed on for Liverpool?
Desperate to play for Klopp & all that
comment by Bobby Dazzler (U1449)
posted 6 minutes ago
Thought he was nailed on for Liverpool?
Desperate to play for Klopp & all that
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Probably looking at this season and thinking their glory spell won't last for ever.
They had a few years where everything seemed to go right for them and credit to them but I'm not sure it was ever sustainable.
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 41 seconds ago
comment by Bobby Dazzler (U1449)
posted 6 minutes ago
Thought he was nailed on for Liverpool?
Desperate to play for Klopp & all that
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Probably looking at this season and thinking their glory spell won't last for ever.
They had a few years where everything seemed to go right for them and credit to them but I'm not sure it was ever sustainable.
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The PEDs lose their effectiveness after a while.
Don't get me wrong I love Martinez but Varane goes under the radar and is a better defender. I mean he's a 4 x CL winner & a world cup winner and brings a calming influence.
Bellingham was never gonna sign for the rat eaters, why would he?? Not even sure where that Bellshill story came from.
comment by Giggs with the shot, SHERINGHAM! Name on the trophy! (U20498)
posted 26 seconds ago
Don't get me wrong I love Martinez but Varane goes under the radar and is a better defender. I mean he's a 4 x CL winner & a world cup winner and brings a calming influence.
Bellingham was never gonna sign for the rat eaters, why would he?? Not even sure where that Bellshill story came from.
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Yes, Martinez is a better footballer as such but Varane is the better defender imo. If I had to choose one to be available for a big game it would be Varane all day.
Because he's a Liverpool fan
Who in everyone's opinion is the taller player out of Martinez and Varane currently? I know at the start of the season Martinez's height was far too low but he has really grown into the season so would be interesting to see his height stats for the 2nd half of the season. Varane in contrast started the season tall but have not seen his 2nd half of season height stats. Anyone know?
comment by Bobby Dazzler (U1449)
posted 30 minutes ago
Thought he was nailed on for Liverpool?
Desperate to play for Klopp & all that
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His Dad's his agent and a Liverpool fan, so nailed on obvs.
Also, it is 'known in the footballing world' that Liverpool made a bid of £100m for him. How could he turn them down if this is the case?
https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/liverpool-bid-agent-jude-bellingham-26581033
comment by The Post Nearly Man (U1270)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Bobby Dazzler (U1449)
posted 30 minutes ago
Thought he was nailed on for Liverpool?
Desperate to play for Klopp & all that
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His Dad's his agent and a Liverpool fan, so nailed on obvs.
Also, it is 'known in the footballing world' that Liverpool made a bid of £100m for him. How could he turn them down if this is the case?
https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/liverpool-bid-agent-jude-bellingham-26581033
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We offered like 80m and Dortmund told us to go where the sun does not shine, which we did.
Also he is looking at Sancho type wages which again rules us out.
comment by (K̇ash) - Liverpool 7-0 Man U (U1108)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by The Post Nearly Man (U1270)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Bobby Dazzler (U1449)
posted 30 minutes ago
Thought he was nailed on for Liverpool?
Desperate to play for Klopp & all that
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His Dad's his agent and a Liverpool fan, so nailed on obvs.
Also, it is 'known in the footballing world' that Liverpool made a bid of £100m for him. How could he turn them down if this is the case?
https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/liverpool-bid-agent-jude-bellingham-26581033
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We offered like 80m and Dortmund told us to go where the sun does not shine
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I'd do that for a lot less
United will help Madrid out by paying over the odds for some old guy they are looking to move on.
Never quite got the Bellingham hype. I think he has the engine and mentality, but don’t think he naturally fits into any of the more niche midfield roles that the modern game seems to require.
Having said that, I’m glad he’s gone to Madrid and not another PL because I may well be very wrong.
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posted on 3/5/23
Love Varane but I get the feeling he'll be injured again before the final
posted on 3/5/23
comment by Pun (U21588)
posted 4 minutes ago
Love Varane but I get the feeling he'll be injured again before the final
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Even if he came in the last few PL games to protect Shaw and Lindelof for the final that would be something. If he's fit though I think he plays the final with Shaw reverting back to LB. Lindelof to partner him.
posted on 3/5/23
comment by Diafol Coch 77 (U2462)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Pun (U21588)
posted 4 minutes ago
Love Varane but I get the feeling he'll be injured again before the final
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Even if he came in the last few PL games to protect Shaw and Lindelof for the final that would be something. If he's fit though I think he plays the final with Shaw reverting back to LB. Lindelof to partner him.
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Lindelof has done well lately but personally I’d go with Shaw CB. It worked against them at OT where we kept Haaland very quiet.
posted on 3/5/23
I think Martinez is a bigger miss for us than Varane.
Personally I have not really been all that impressed with Varane this season.
Before the injury he was looking solid tbf but for much of the season before that he was somewhat unconvincing.
posted on 3/5/23
comment by comic book guy (U17816)
posted 4 minutes ago
I think Martinez is a bigger miss for us than Varane.
Personally I have not really been all that impressed with Varane this season.
Before the injury he was looking solid tbf but for much of the season before that he was somewhat unconvincing.
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I disagree with all of that.
We haven’t missed Martinez that much at all when Shaw plays at LCB. It’s only when it’s Maguire or Lindelof play there that we see a massive drop off.
Varane has been very good most of the season when fit. Because of his pace and how well he reads the game what he does goes under the radar a bit.
It’s a bit like Rio and Vidic where because Vidic was more all action he often got more recognition than Rio.
The only weakness in Varane’s game is that he isn’t fantastic on the ball.
posted on 3/5/23
The manager said this in his press conference
posted on 3/5/23
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by comic book guy (U17816)
posted 4 minutes ago
I think Martinez is a bigger miss for us than Varane.
Personally I have not really been all that impressed with Varane this season.
Before the injury he was looking solid tbf but for much of the season before that he was somewhat unconvincing.
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I disagree with all of that.
We haven’t missed Martinez that much at all when Shaw plays at LCB. It’s only when it’s Maguire or Lindelof play there that we see a massive drop off.
Varane has been very good most of the season when fit. Because of his pace and how well he reads the game what he does goes under the radar a bit.
It’s a bit like Rio and Vidic where because Vidic was more all action he often got more recognition than Rio.
The only weakness in Varane’s game is that he isn’t fantastic on the ball.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I think they're equally important.
Shaw has played the Martinez role well, but Martinez is also a very important leader on the pitch. We miss him massively.
posted on 3/5/23
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 19 minutes ago
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by comic book guy (U17816)
posted 4 minutes ago
I think Martinez is a bigger miss for us than Varane.
Personally I have not really been all that impressed with Varane this season.
Before the injury he was looking solid tbf but for much of the season before that he was somewhat unconvincing.
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I disagree with all of that.
We haven’t missed Martinez that much at all when Shaw plays at LCB. It’s only when it’s Maguire or Lindelof play there that we see a massive drop off.
Varane has been very good most of the season when fit. Because of his pace and how well he reads the game what he does goes under the radar a bit.
It’s a bit like Rio and Vidic where because Vidic was more all action he often got more recognition than Rio.
The only weakness in Varane’s game is that he isn’t fantastic on the ball.
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I think they're equally important.
Shaw has played the Martinez role well, but Martinez is also a very important leader on the pitch. We miss him massively.
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I’m just playing devils advocate here as I really like him and think he’s been a great signing but strangely results suggest otherwise to your last sentence.
posted on 3/5/23
I was rather hoping Bellingham might see sense and come to United.
But better Real Madrid than Liverpool or City 🤮
posted on 3/5/23
comment by Jalisco Red (U4195)
posted 50 seconds ago
I was rather hoping Bellingham might see sense and come to United.
But better Real Madrid than Liverpool or City 🤮
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Yeah this. I'm a big fan of his.
posted on 3/5/23
comment by Pun (U21588)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Jalisco Red (U4195)
posted 50 seconds ago
I was rather hoping Bellingham might see sense and come to United.
But better Real Madrid than Liverpool or City 🤮
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Yeah this. I'm a big fan of his.
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I think it's the right move for him. He'll always have an opportunity to play in the PL but this may be his one and only chance of going to Madrid. The fact he's already played abroad will help as well.
posted on 3/5/23
I wonder what the Romano nay-sayers will have on this one.
posted on 3/5/23
Thought he was nailed on for Liverpool?
Desperate to play for Klopp & all that
posted on 3/5/23
comment by Bobby Dazzler (U1449)
posted 6 minutes ago
Thought he was nailed on for Liverpool?
Desperate to play for Klopp & all that
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Probably looking at this season and thinking their glory spell won't last for ever.
They had a few years where everything seemed to go right for them and credit to them but I'm not sure it was ever sustainable.
posted on 3/5/23
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 41 seconds ago
comment by Bobby Dazzler (U1449)
posted 6 minutes ago
Thought he was nailed on for Liverpool?
Desperate to play for Klopp & all that
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Probably looking at this season and thinking their glory spell won't last for ever.
They had a few years where everything seemed to go right for them and credit to them but I'm not sure it was ever sustainable.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The PEDs lose their effectiveness after a while.
posted on 3/5/23
Don't get me wrong I love Martinez but Varane goes under the radar and is a better defender. I mean he's a 4 x CL winner & a world cup winner and brings a calming influence.
Bellingham was never gonna sign for the rat eaters, why would he?? Not even sure where that Bellshill story came from.
posted on 3/5/23
*bullish!t
posted on 3/5/23
comment by Giggs with the shot, SHERINGHAM! Name on the trophy! (U20498)
posted 26 seconds ago
Don't get me wrong I love Martinez but Varane goes under the radar and is a better defender. I mean he's a 4 x CL winner & a world cup winner and brings a calming influence.
Bellingham was never gonna sign for the rat eaters, why would he?? Not even sure where that Bellshill story came from.
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Yes, Martinez is a better footballer as such but Varane is the better defender imo. If I had to choose one to be available for a big game it would be Varane all day.
posted on 3/5/23
Because he's a Liverpool fan
posted on 3/5/23
Who in everyone's opinion is the taller player out of Martinez and Varane currently? I know at the start of the season Martinez's height was far too low but he has really grown into the season so would be interesting to see his height stats for the 2nd half of the season. Varane in contrast started the season tall but have not seen his 2nd half of season height stats. Anyone know?
posted on 3/5/23
comment by Bobby Dazzler (U1449)
posted 30 minutes ago
Thought he was nailed on for Liverpool?
Desperate to play for Klopp & all that
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His Dad's his agent and a Liverpool fan, so nailed on obvs.
Also, it is 'known in the footballing world' that Liverpool made a bid of £100m for him. How could he turn them down if this is the case?
https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/liverpool-bid-agent-jude-bellingham-26581033
posted on 3/5/23
comment by The Post Nearly Man (U1270)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Bobby Dazzler (U1449)
posted 30 minutes ago
Thought he was nailed on for Liverpool?
Desperate to play for Klopp & all that
----------------------------------------------------------------------
His Dad's his agent and a Liverpool fan, so nailed on obvs.
Also, it is 'known in the footballing world' that Liverpool made a bid of £100m for him. How could he turn them down if this is the case?
https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/liverpool-bid-agent-jude-bellingham-26581033
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We offered like 80m and Dortmund told us to go where the sun does not shine, which we did.
Also he is looking at Sancho type wages which again rules us out.
posted on 3/5/23
comment by (K̇ash) - Liverpool 7-0 Man U (U1108)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by The Post Nearly Man (U1270)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Bobby Dazzler (U1449)
posted 30 minutes ago
Thought he was nailed on for Liverpool?
Desperate to play for Klopp & all that
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His Dad's his agent and a Liverpool fan, so nailed on obvs.
Also, it is 'known in the footballing world' that Liverpool made a bid of £100m for him. How could he turn them down if this is the case?
https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/liverpool-bid-agent-jude-bellingham-26581033
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We offered like 80m and Dortmund told us to go where the sun does not shine
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I'd do that for a lot less
posted on 3/5/23
United will help Madrid out by paying over the odds for some old guy they are looking to move on.
posted on 3/5/23
Never quite got the Bellingham hype. I think he has the engine and mentality, but don’t think he naturally fits into any of the more niche midfield roles that the modern game seems to require.
Having said that, I’m glad he’s gone to Madrid and not another PL because I may well be very wrong.
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