I like Big Sam. He was way ahead of his time at Bolton and had them playing some great stuff at times too, contrary to popular belief.
If I were a Leeds fan, my only concern would be that he was way ahead of the curve in terms of analytics back in the day and he no longer has that advantage. But then again, the sheer fact he was clever and creative enough to think in those terms to begin with is a massive plus in his favour.
I think you could do worse than give him a longer deal but I guess the next three games will impact upon that in terms of how you show up, regardless of results or league position
Only going by MOTD highlights but oh dear Bamford's been royally slaughtered for his poor control and first touch... not holding onto the ball which I think Big Sam will not tolerate and like Meslier I envisage PB being dropped for the final 3 games in favour of Rodrigo.
Also SA was not best pleased with Struiyk's clumsy tackle and the cheap penalty conceded so I doubt Struiyk will be trusted again in defence and in the same fashion Rasmus has been converted to Centre back I wonder whether Struiyk will be moved into the midfield at the expense of one of the 4 that played there today.
Me too Batty. We need stability, see how we finish and if we go down, go down fighting.
Macca, I think you're right that we might not see Bamford again.
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I'm fairly certain I've made my feelings known on
Bamford. Today was yet another example of why
he's not a Prem striker. And Orta scr3wed us.
He was here because he was Orta's vanity project.
And a section of fans bought into the sh1 t Orta
spun around his beloved number 9.
Simply not good enough.
Missed the game yesterday so would like to pose a question to anyone who was actually at the Etihad.
Does the result flatter another terrible performance?
From watching highlights and reading comments and Earl's HWMDT, it seems like we were totally dire, particularly in the first half, and that City/Haaland missed a hatful of chances inc a penalty. Should have conceded five or six. The two goals were carbon copies of each other, exploiting the well-known defensive frailties of Junior Firpo.
In other words, Allardyce didn't have much impact.
Either way, miraculously, we're still clear of the zone on GD, and the result will boost the morale of both players and fans. We were always going to lose that game but we have a chance to pick up points against the Barcodes, Hammers and Spurs. Let's hope Everton lose heavily.
Bamford looked like he was running in treacle,
Yep, good points all. The way things are currently, I’d certainly keep hold of Big Sam👍.
"In other words, Allardyce didn't have much impact."
I'd think with the worst defence playing the best strike force in the Premiership that Sam did something right, on another day we would have shipped another bog full!..
Minus 1 is better than minus 6 or however many!..
We have to hope with a few more days training he can bring the front line to the level in such a short time he's got the defence, then just maybe things will happen!..
We were garbage.
2-1 massively flattering
Man city dropped 2-3 gears on second half and even changed the penalty taker they were that relaxed and comfortable. One of the easiest games I would imagine they have ever played in for 80+ minutes.
IMO we gave them far too much respect first half. We stood like 10 statues at the back and applied zero pressure so it was easy for them to retain 84% posession. How we only made maybe 3 fouls in 45 minutes of not having the ball is crazY.
Bamford looked very depressed I thought, he's not happy with himself, i think he could be dropped unless B.S.(Big Sam) gives him a psychology lesson !
I just don’t get comments and article stating keeping Sam. Like seriously? Based on what exactly? It’s like the last 3 years haven’t taught us owt.
He’s here for 4 games and hope he does the job. But given the potential of our squad (up or down) why on earth would you want to watch dross football game in game out?
comment by A14... 152-0 T20 + Tea was fantastic پاکستان زِنده باد (U2805)
posted 34 minutes ago
He’s here for 4 games and hope he does the job. But given the potential of our squad (up or down) why on earth would you want to watch dross football game in
game out?
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Haven’t we been watching “dross football” all this season, especially the last few games? Let’s just see where we are after the Tottenham game. If Sam keeps us up then he deserves to be considered for the job. At least he changed things at half time and we didn’t lose the second half. One of City’s players will have cost what our team are worth in its entirety and are one of the best teams in the world. I was really pleased to only have one goal to add to the goal difference score, I was expecting at least 5!
"One of City’s players will have cost what our team are worth in its entirety"
That's an argument for all!..
If we had their bench playing in our first team we might have drawn!..
We're nowhere near the top teams and it'll be a long time without their sort off backing before we get that far!..
Ask Newcastle!..
comment by MaidinLeeds (U2464)
posted 31 minutes ago
comment by A14... 152-0 T20 + Tea was fantastic پاکستان زِنده باد (U2805)
posted 34 minutes ago
He’s here for 4 games and hope he does the job. But given the potential of our squad (up or down) why on earth would you want to watch dross football game in
game out?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Haven’t we been watching “dross football” all this season, especially the last few games? Let’s just see where we are after the Tottenham game. If Sam keeps us up then he deserves to be considered for the job. At least he changed things at half time and we didn’t lose the second half. One of City’s players will have cost what our team are worth in its entirety and are one of the best teams in the world. I was really pleased to only have one goal to add to the goal difference score, I was expecting at least 5!
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Don't get this, we didn't lose the second half argument.
Everyone's entitled to their opinion. It is football after all.
I will add, if Gracia/Marsch were in charge yesterday,
it would've been a goal fest for City. Both managers
turned us into Swiss cheese. I give BS a ton of credit
for pulling this team out of that fire, in two days of work.
Not too bad all things considered.
"even changed the penalty taker they were that relaxed and comfortable."
^^^
This is well off actual reality. Haaland let Gundogan
take the penalty as he was on a hat trick. When he
missed, Pep went ballistic at Haaland for not taking it.
Pep nearly lost his mind over it. As a consequence,
he left key players on, for me he was punishing them.
Then City resorted to sh 1 t housery to get to the final
whistle. Can anyone with a straight face, have seen
Gracia causing that? No.
Give credit where it's due. Sam and team did a solid
job in the limited time they had, with a poor squad.
I don’t want Big Sam in long term at all, but we can hardly turn our noses up at the football when we’ve been playing awful stuff for 2 seasons now. I hate the style of football he plays but also think he gets way too much disrespect. You look at his record, he’s actually done well with everyone bar West Brom. What he did with Bolton was incredible and Newcastle, Everton, Palace, Sunderland, West Ham he did what he needed.
If Sam took over when Marsch was sacked, do you think we’d be in a better position now? Personally yes, he’s a miles better manager than either Gracia or Marsch
Can't argue with any of that, Best.
comment by Best fans - Leeds Carajo (U2196)
posted 2 hours, 34 minutes ago
I don’t want Big Sam in long term at all, but we can hardly turn our noses up at the football when we’ve been playing awful stuff for 2 seasons now. I hate the style of football he plays but also think he gets way too much disrespect. You look at his record, he’s actually done well with everyone bar West Brom. What he did with Bolton was incredible and Newcastle, Everton, Palace, Sunderland, West Ham he did what he needed.
If Sam took over when Marsch was sacked, do you think we’d be in a better position now? Personally yes, he’s a miles better manager than either Gracia or Marsch
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Definitely, he's been there, done that , and won the T-shirt...unlike J.M. and J.G.
24 hours plus since Big Sam and lads did what they
did and I reiterate, he's done a great job in such a short
space of time. I'm really positive about our chances now.
Minus Gracia and the tw4 t Orta, the club looks like
it has at the very least, a chance at survival.
Drop Bamford for Rodrigo and I think we can do it.
"even changed the penalty taker they were that relaxed and comfortable."
^^^
This is well off actual reality. Haaland let Gundogan
take the penalty as he was on a hat trick. When he
missed, Pep went ballistic at Haaland for not taking it.
Pep nearly lost his mind over it. As a consequence,
he left key players on, for me he was punishing them.
Yes. They were that comfortable and relaxed in the knowledge that they’d played one of the easiest 80 minutes of football ever they gave the penalty to Gun for his hattrick. The miss and then mistake for our goal was liking papering over the Grand Canyon. Most flattering 2-1 score line one will see in a very very long time?
I think the team were set up to sort the defense, and there is why they had no real goal threat, back to basics is as far as I know to not concede, and looking back at last month it could be said there was an improvement!..
The players have a little time to see what Sam wants to do and no doubt he'll be looking at other area's in the team to improve on, once they have the defense backup drummed into them then they can work on the attack, which is normally how it should be!..
As for ManC, there ain't many off the so called top teams that have bettered them, we expected the worst and stopped the best in the league, 2 goals against against them isn't that bad!..
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posted on 6/5/23
I like Big Sam. He was way ahead of his time at Bolton and had them playing some great stuff at times too, contrary to popular belief.
If I were a Leeds fan, my only concern would be that he was way ahead of the curve in terms of analytics back in the day and he no longer has that advantage. But then again, the sheer fact he was clever and creative enough to think in those terms to begin with is a massive plus in his favour.
I think you could do worse than give him a longer deal but I guess the next three games will impact upon that in terms of how you show up, regardless of results or league position
posted on 6/5/23
Only going by MOTD highlights but oh dear Bamford's been royally slaughtered for his poor control and first touch... not holding onto the ball which I think Big Sam will not tolerate and like Meslier I envisage PB being dropped for the final 3 games in favour of Rodrigo.
Also SA was not best pleased with Struiyk's clumsy tackle and the cheap penalty conceded so I doubt Struiyk will be trusted again in defence and in the same fashion Rasmus has been converted to Centre back I wonder whether Struiyk will be moved into the midfield at the expense of one of the 4 that played there today.
posted on 6/5/23
Me too Batty. We need stability, see how we finish and if we go down, go down fighting.
posted on 6/5/23
Macca, I think you're right that we might not see Bamford again.
posted on 6/5/23
Comment deleted by Article Creator
posted on 6/5/23
I'm fairly certain I've made my feelings known on
Bamford. Today was yet another example of why
he's not a Prem striker. And Orta scr3wed us.
He was here because he was Orta's vanity project.
And a section of fans bought into the sh1 t Orta
spun around his beloved number 9.
Simply not good enough.
posted on 7/5/23
Missed the game yesterday so would like to pose a question to anyone who was actually at the Etihad.
Does the result flatter another terrible performance?
From watching highlights and reading comments and Earl's HWMDT, it seems like we were totally dire, particularly in the first half, and that City/Haaland missed a hatful of chances inc a penalty. Should have conceded five or six. The two goals were carbon copies of each other, exploiting the well-known defensive frailties of Junior Firpo.
In other words, Allardyce didn't have much impact.
Either way, miraculously, we're still clear of the zone on GD, and the result will boost the morale of both players and fans. We were always going to lose that game but we have a chance to pick up points against the Barcodes, Hammers and Spurs. Let's hope Everton lose heavily.
posted on 7/5/23
Bamford looked like he was running in treacle,
posted on 7/5/23
Yep, good points all. The way things are currently, I’d certainly keep hold of Big Sam👍.
posted on 7/5/23
"In other words, Allardyce didn't have much impact."
I'd think with the worst defence playing the best strike force in the Premiership that Sam did something right, on another day we would have shipped another bog full!..
Minus 1 is better than minus 6 or however many!..
We have to hope with a few more days training he can bring the front line to the level in such a short time he's got the defence, then just maybe things will happen!..
posted on 7/5/23
We were garbage.
2-1 massively flattering
Man city dropped 2-3 gears on second half and even changed the penalty taker they were that relaxed and comfortable. One of the easiest games I would imagine they have ever played in for 80+ minutes.
IMO we gave them far too much respect first half. We stood like 10 statues at the back and applied zero pressure so it was easy for them to retain 84% posession. How we only made maybe 3 fouls in 45 minutes of not having the ball is crazY.
posted on 7/5/23
Bamford looked very depressed I thought, he's not happy with himself, i think he could be dropped unless B.S.(Big Sam) gives him a psychology lesson !
posted on 7/5/23
I just don’t get comments and article stating keeping Sam. Like seriously? Based on what exactly? It’s like the last 3 years haven’t taught us owt.
He’s here for 4 games and hope he does the job. But given the potential of our squad (up or down) why on earth would you want to watch dross football game in game out?
posted on 7/5/23
comment by A14... 152-0 T20 + Tea was fantastic پاکستان زِنده باد (U2805)
posted 34 minutes ago
He’s here for 4 games and hope he does the job. But given the potential of our squad (up or down) why on earth would you want to watch dross football game in
game out?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Haven’t we been watching “dross football” all this season, especially the last few games? Let’s just see where we are after the Tottenham game. If Sam keeps us up then he deserves to be considered for the job. At least he changed things at half time and we didn’t lose the second half. One of City’s players will have cost what our team are worth in its entirety and are one of the best teams in the world. I was really pleased to only have one goal to add to the goal difference score, I was expecting at least 5!
posted on 7/5/23
"One of City’s players will have cost what our team are worth in its entirety"
That's an argument for all!..
If we had their bench playing in our first team we might have drawn!..
We're nowhere near the top teams and it'll be a long time without their sort off backing before we get that far!..
Ask Newcastle!..
posted on 7/5/23
comment by MaidinLeeds (U2464)
posted 31 minutes ago
comment by A14... 152-0 T20 + Tea was fantastic پاکستان زِنده باد (U2805)
posted 34 minutes ago
He’s here for 4 games and hope he does the job. But given the potential of our squad (up or down) why on earth would you want to watch dross football game in
game out?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Haven’t we been watching “dross football” all this season, especially the last few games? Let’s just see where we are after the Tottenham game. If Sam keeps us up then he deserves to be considered for the job. At least he changed things at half time and we didn’t lose the second half. One of City’s players will have cost what our team are worth in its entirety and are one of the best teams in the world. I was really pleased to only have one goal to add to the goal difference score, I was expecting at least 5!
----------------------------------------------------------
Don't get this, we didn't lose the second half argument.
posted on 7/5/23
Everyone's entitled to their opinion. It is football after all.
I will add, if Gracia/Marsch were in charge yesterday,
it would've been a goal fest for City. Both managers
turned us into Swiss cheese. I give BS a ton of credit
for pulling this team out of that fire, in two days of work.
Not too bad all things considered.
"even changed the penalty taker they were that relaxed and comfortable."
^^^
This is well off actual reality. Haaland let Gundogan
take the penalty as he was on a hat trick. When he
missed, Pep went ballistic at Haaland for not taking it.
Pep nearly lost his mind over it. As a consequence,
he left key players on, for me he was punishing them.
Then City resorted to sh 1 t housery to get to the final
whistle. Can anyone with a straight face, have seen
Gracia causing that? No.
Give credit where it's due. Sam and team did a solid
job in the limited time they had, with a poor squad.
posted on 7/5/23
I don’t want Big Sam in long term at all, but we can hardly turn our noses up at the football when we’ve been playing awful stuff for 2 seasons now. I hate the style of football he plays but also think he gets way too much disrespect. You look at his record, he’s actually done well with everyone bar West Brom. What he did with Bolton was incredible and Newcastle, Everton, Palace, Sunderland, West Ham he did what he needed.
If Sam took over when Marsch was sacked, do you think we’d be in a better position now? Personally yes, he’s a miles better manager than either Gracia or Marsch
posted on 7/5/23
Can't argue with any of that, Best.
posted on 7/5/23
comment by Best fans - Leeds Carajo (U2196)
posted 2 hours, 34 minutes ago
I don’t want Big Sam in long term at all, but we can hardly turn our noses up at the football when we’ve been playing awful stuff for 2 seasons now. I hate the style of football he plays but also think he gets way too much disrespect. You look at his record, he’s actually done well with everyone bar West Brom. What he did with Bolton was incredible and Newcastle, Everton, Palace, Sunderland, West Ham he did what he needed.
If Sam took over when Marsch was sacked, do you think we’d be in a better position now? Personally yes, he’s a miles better manager than either Gracia or Marsch
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Definitely, he's been there, done that , and won the T-shirt...unlike J.M. and J.G.
posted on 8/5/23
24 hours plus since Big Sam and lads did what they
did and I reiterate, he's done a great job in such a short
space of time. I'm really positive about our chances now.
Minus Gracia and the tw4 t Orta, the club looks like
it has at the very least, a chance at survival.
Drop Bamford for Rodrigo and I think we can do it.
posted on 8/5/23
"even changed the penalty taker they were that relaxed and comfortable."
^^^
This is well off actual reality. Haaland let Gundogan
take the penalty as he was on a hat trick. When he
missed, Pep went ballistic at Haaland for not taking it.
Pep nearly lost his mind over it. As a consequence,
he left key players on, for me he was punishing them.
Yes. They were that comfortable and relaxed in the knowledge that they’d played one of the easiest 80 minutes of football ever they gave the penalty to Gun for his hattrick. The miss and then mistake for our goal was liking papering over the Grand Canyon. Most flattering 2-1 score line one will see in a very very long time?
posted on 8/5/23
I think the team were set up to sort the defense, and there is why they had no real goal threat, back to basics is as far as I know to not concede, and looking back at last month it could be said there was an improvement!..
The players have a little time to see what Sam wants to do and no doubt he'll be looking at other area's in the team to improve on, once they have the defense backup drummed into them then they can work on the attack, which is normally how it should be!..
As for ManC, there ain't many off the so called top teams that have bettered them, we expected the worst and stopped the best in the league, 2 goals against against them isn't that bad!..
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