comment by Irishred (U2539)
posted 3 minutes ago
Bob paisley?
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I didn`t put Bob in, because Liverpool were already at the top of the tree. Not belittling what he did, but he just really took over from the Shanks project.
“Not sure anyone can argue…” 😂😂😂
The whole purpose of this post is to cause an argument.
You obviously didn't rate Arsene Wenger.
Arsene Wenger.
Revolutionised English football by bringing in new science based philosophies. From training, coaching to dietary and nutrition.
Which created a legacy copied by his peers and is now normal practice throughout the game.
comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Irishred (U2539)
posted 3 minutes ago
Bob paisley?
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I didn`t put Bob in, because Liverpool were already at the top of the tree. Not belittling what he did, but he just really took over from the Shanks project.
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So best post war managers who create the project?
Mourinho was the only manager in Tottenhams history that came close to winning a trophy if your stupid bald twaaat chairman hadn’t sacked him before a final.
In regard to Claudio Ranieri, that’s not quite right there fella. Nigel Pearson steered City to safety from a doomed position. The following season, Ranieri saw the title through but was pulling the club down to a position whereby relegation was on the cards had he remained the manager for much longer.
So any manager that spent money or managed any team that was decent , is instantly discredited? all the work on the training pitch, around the club they do every day, for years , is irrelevant because they're owners are rich..
Bob Wilson, steered lower-half Portsmouth to back-to-back league titles, their only two to date.
Bob Paisley = 3 league cups, 6 league titles & 3 European cups!
This list is silly.
comment by Totally ambivalent towards Conte (U22347)
posted 28 minutes ago
“Not sure anyone can argue…” 😂😂😂
The whole purpose of this post is to cause an argument.
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Discussion please. Surely no one can argue about those managers. The best of the best.
comment by groovyduringthewar (U1054)
posted 24 minutes ago
You obviously didn't rate Arsene Wenger.
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Was given half the French world cup winning team. So what was hard about what he achieved?
comment by AFCISMYTEAM (U14931)
posted 5 minutes ago
So any manager that spent money or managed any team that was decent , is instantly discredited? all the work on the training pitch, around the club they do every day, for years , is irrelevant because they're owners are rich..
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No, I think you are missing the point. The article says best postwar managers. Those that built teams from scratch, more or less.
Any manager in world football can take over a team at the top of the tree, and win trophies. Easiest job in the world.
Amazing how lots of modern supporters don`t rate managers pre 2000.
comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by groovyduringthewar (U1054)
posted 24 minutes ago
You obviously didn't rate Arsene Wenger.
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Was given half the French world cup winning team. So what was hard about what he achieved?
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Turned an under performing winger in to one of the best strikers football has seen.
he did that!
You can't put Fergie in there for his Scottish exploits and not have Stein FFS.
comment by KLS - Mick Lynch for prime minister (U1695)
posted 5 minutes ago
Bob Paisley = 3 league cups, 6 league titles & 3 European cups!
This list is silly.
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I think we all know that. But Liverpool were already at the top of the tree, he just took over. Like Guardiola at Man City. He hardly had to do much to keep Liverpool at the top, they already had most of the best players.
Bill Shankly took Liverpool from the 2nd division to titles. A much greater achievement.
comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
posted 13 seconds ago
comment by KLS - Mick Lynch for prime minister (U1695)
posted 5 minutes ago
Bob Paisley = 3 league cups, 6 league titles & 3 European cups!
This list is silly.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I think we all know that. But Liverpool were already at the top of the tree, he just took over. Like Guardiola at Man City. He hardly had to do much to keep Liverpool at the top, they already had most of the best players.
Bill Shankly took Liverpool from the 2nd division to titles. A much greater achievement.
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most of the best players?
He lost one of the best Centre forwards in the world in Keegan and went and replaced him with Kenny Dalglish and made a profit doing it.
I like managers who were also great players.
If you can't play the game then you can't manage it.
So I go for Billy Nich and Alf Ramsey.
comment by KLS - Mick Lynch for prime minister (U1695)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by groovyduringthewar (U1054)
posted 24 minutes ago
You obviously didn't rate Arsene Wenger.
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Was given half the French world cup winning team. So what was hard about what he achieved?
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Turned an under performing winger in to one of the best strikers football has seen.
he did that!
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LOL, he had already won the world cup before he joined Arsenal.
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 3 minutes ago
You can't put Fergie in there for his Scottish exploits and not have Stein FFS.
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I will add Jock Stein, forgot about him. But Fergie winning the Scottish league three times in the modern era, probably considered a harder achievement. Seeing as no side for the past 40 years, other than Rangers or Celtic have won the title.
comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by groovyduringthewar (U1054)
posted 24 minutes ago
You obviously didn't rate Arsene Wenger.
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Was given half the French world cup winning team. So what was hard about what he achieved?
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How exactly was he 'given' these French players,was it a belated Christmas present?
Obvs Fergie
The Aberdeen stuff
Then the sustained success at United, rebuilding and still being successful
No one else has done that
Some have had short periods of success then got out when the team past it’s shelf life
comment by KLS - Mick Lynch for prime minister (U1695)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
posted 13 seconds ago
comment by KLS - Mick Lynch for prime minister (U1695)
posted 5 minutes ago
Bob Paisley = 3 league cups, 6 league titles & 3 European cups!
This list is silly.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I think we all know that. But Liverpool were already at the top of the tree, he just took over. Like Guardiola at Man City. He hardly had to do much to keep Liverpool at the top, they already had most of the best players.
Bill Shankly took Liverpool from the 2nd division to titles. A much greater achievement.
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most of the best players?
He lost one of the best Centre forwards in the world in Keegan and went and replaced him with Kenny Dalglish and made a profit doing it.
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So basically were just like a modern day Man City back then, lose a top player, then able to replace him with another top player. As I said Paisley never took Liverpool from the bottom, they were already at or near the top when he took over.
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posted on 18/5/23
Bob paisley?
posted on 18/5/23
comment by Irishred (U2539)
posted 3 minutes ago
Bob paisley?
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I didn`t put Bob in, because Liverpool were already at the top of the tree. Not belittling what he did, but he just really took over from the Shanks project.
posted on 18/5/23
“Not sure anyone can argue…” 😂😂😂
The whole purpose of this post is to cause an argument.
posted on 18/5/23
You obviously didn't rate Arsene Wenger.
posted on 18/5/23
Arsene Wenger.
Revolutionised English football by bringing in new science based philosophies. From training, coaching to dietary and nutrition.
Which created a legacy copied by his peers and is now normal practice throughout the game.
posted on 18/5/23
comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Irishred (U2539)
posted 3 minutes ago
Bob paisley?
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I didn`t put Bob in, because Liverpool were already at the top of the tree. Not belittling what he did, but he just really took over from the Shanks project.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So best post war managers who create the project?
posted on 18/5/23
MOURINHO?????????
posted on 18/5/23
Mourinho was the only manager in Tottenhams history that came close to winning a trophy if your stupid bald twaaat chairman hadn’t sacked him before a final.
posted on 18/5/23
In regard to Claudio Ranieri, that’s not quite right there fella. Nigel Pearson steered City to safety from a doomed position. The following season, Ranieri saw the title through but was pulling the club down to a position whereby relegation was on the cards had he remained the manager for much longer.
posted on 18/5/23
So any manager that spent money or managed any team that was decent , is instantly discredited? all the work on the training pitch, around the club they do every day, for years , is irrelevant because they're owners are rich..
posted on 18/5/23
Bob Wilson, steered lower-half Portsmouth to back-to-back league titles, their only two to date.
posted on 18/5/23
Bob Paisley = 3 league cups, 6 league titles & 3 European cups!
This list is silly.
posted on 18/5/23
comment by Totally ambivalent towards Conte (U22347)
posted 28 minutes ago
“Not sure anyone can argue…” 😂😂😂
The whole purpose of this post is to cause an argument.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Discussion please. Surely no one can argue about those managers. The best of the best.
posted on 18/5/23
comment by groovyduringthewar (U1054)
posted 24 minutes ago
You obviously didn't rate Arsene Wenger.
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Was given half the French world cup winning team. So what was hard about what he achieved?
posted on 18/5/23
comment by AFCISMYTEAM (U14931)
posted 5 minutes ago
So any manager that spent money or managed any team that was decent , is instantly discredited? all the work on the training pitch, around the club they do every day, for years , is irrelevant because they're owners are rich..
----------------------------------------------------------------------
No, I think you are missing the point. The article says best postwar managers. Those that built teams from scratch, more or less.
Any manager in world football can take over a team at the top of the tree, and win trophies. Easiest job in the world.
Amazing how lots of modern supporters don`t rate managers pre 2000.
posted on 18/5/23
comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by groovyduringthewar (U1054)
posted 24 minutes ago
You obviously didn't rate Arsene Wenger.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Was given half the French world cup winning team. So what was hard about what he achieved?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Turned an under performing winger in to one of the best strikers football has seen.
he did that!
posted on 18/5/23
You can't put Fergie in there for his Scottish exploits and not have Stein FFS.
posted on 18/5/23
comment by KLS - Mick Lynch for prime minister (U1695)
posted 5 minutes ago
Bob Paisley = 3 league cups, 6 league titles & 3 European cups!
This list is silly.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I think we all know that. But Liverpool were already at the top of the tree, he just took over. Like Guardiola at Man City. He hardly had to do much to keep Liverpool at the top, they already had most of the best players.
Bill Shankly took Liverpool from the 2nd division to titles. A much greater achievement.
posted on 18/5/23
comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
posted 13 seconds ago
comment by KLS - Mick Lynch for prime minister (U1695)
posted 5 minutes ago
Bob Paisley = 3 league cups, 6 league titles & 3 European cups!
This list is silly.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I think we all know that. But Liverpool were already at the top of the tree, he just took over. Like Guardiola at Man City. He hardly had to do much to keep Liverpool at the top, they already had most of the best players.
Bill Shankly took Liverpool from the 2nd division to titles. A much greater achievement.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
most of the best players?
He lost one of the best Centre forwards in the world in Keegan and went and replaced him with Kenny Dalglish and made a profit doing it.
posted on 18/5/23
I like managers who were also great players.
If you can't play the game then you can't manage it.
So I go for Billy Nich and Alf Ramsey.
posted on 18/5/23
comment by KLS - Mick Lynch for prime minister (U1695)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by groovyduringthewar (U1054)
posted 24 minutes ago
You obviously didn't rate Arsene Wenger.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Was given half the French world cup winning team. So what was hard about what he achieved?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Turned an under performing winger in to one of the best strikers football has seen.
he did that!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
LOL, he had already won the world cup before he joined Arsenal.
posted on 18/5/23
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 3 minutes ago
You can't put Fergie in there for his Scottish exploits and not have Stein FFS.
------------------------------------
I will add Jock Stein, forgot about him. But Fergie winning the Scottish league three times in the modern era, probably considered a harder achievement. Seeing as no side for the past 40 years, other than Rangers or Celtic have won the title.
posted on 18/5/23
comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by groovyduringthewar (U1054)
posted 24 minutes ago
You obviously didn't rate Arsene Wenger.
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Was given half the French world cup winning team. So what was hard about what he achieved?
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How exactly was he 'given' these French players,was it a belated Christmas present?
posted on 18/5/23
Obvs Fergie
The Aberdeen stuff
Then the sustained success at United, rebuilding and still being successful
No one else has done that
Some have had short periods of success then got out when the team past it’s shelf life
posted on 18/5/23
comment by KLS - Mick Lynch for prime minister (U1695)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
posted 13 seconds ago
comment by KLS - Mick Lynch for prime minister (U1695)
posted 5 minutes ago
Bob Paisley = 3 league cups, 6 league titles & 3 European cups!
This list is silly.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I think we all know that. But Liverpool were already at the top of the tree, he just took over. Like Guardiola at Man City. He hardly had to do much to keep Liverpool at the top, they already had most of the best players.
Bill Shankly took Liverpool from the 2nd division to titles. A much greater achievement.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
most of the best players?
He lost one of the best Centre forwards in the world in Keegan and went and replaced him with Kenny Dalglish and made a profit doing it.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So basically were just like a modern day Man City back then, lose a top player, then able to replace him with another top player. As I said Paisley never took Liverpool from the bottom, they were already at or near the top when he took over.
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