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comment by Wahl Icht Roma (U22997)
posted 26 minutes ago
the glory of the Ranieri era faded when you sacked him a few months after winning the league.
Honestly you deserve relegation
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Has Jose responded to any of your love letters yet Wahl?
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comment by Wahl Icht Roma (U22997)
posted 1 hour, 1 minute ago
Was that funny in your head?
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Genuine question mate
Leicester could be relegated
Coventry could be promoted
Wouldn't be good
If you still regard Coventry as local rivals that is
Obviously Wahl isn’t allowed to comment because he’s clinically thick
comment by 99 Problems (but Rodgers ain’t one) (U12353)
posted 1 hour, 5 minutes ago
Obviously Wahl isn’t allowed to comment because he’s clinically thick
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And he is a khunt
I suspect you've only had some wums on this thread as there's an element of truth in it, but mainly because we're in such a depressing situation. I've finally forced myself to post something.
This has to be a strong candidate for the 'best' squad to get relegated, on paper at least. The table doesn't lie however, what has been proven is that these players and manager were singularly poorly equipped for the situation they found themselves in, a relegation battle at the bottom of the table.
This season has been truly dreadful, like watching a car crash in slow motion, it's had far more negative impact on me than the relegation to League 1, as it was so avoidable. We've had so many opportunities to avoid this happening, one sticks out for me like a sore thumb; the insane decision for a fully functioning Vardy not to take the penalty against Everton is going to see us finally relegated, we'd be above them now and in the box seat for tomorrow if he had taken that. When I've said that previously TB trys to switch the narrative to his obsession on Brendan's culpability, which is missing the point, in a season where we had multiple opportunities to avoid the drop, this is the most critical for me, the most avoidable, the stupidest single decision at such a low level which is effectively the one which is the difference between us going down and potentially staying up.
I am of course talking as if we are already relegated. I can't see anything else happening tomorrow but in a season where we've been absolutely awful for the majority of it, we're somehow in a situation where we could conceivably still get out of the mire. I'd be delighted to proven to be a complete mug by the evening.
The blame for the mismanagement of the finances, lack of action in changing the manager when it was blatantly obvious he wasn't suitable for the present situation and critically for the long term, persisting with an incompetent DoF who has presided over a catastrophic situation on player contracts in particular sits solely with Top and the board.
So why isn't there Ashley or Glazer style outrage amongst the fan base? I don't think it's because there's a small club mentality, I suspect it's more to do with the substantial brownie points earned by what this family have achieved under their ownership, an unprecedented period of success. I know that it's painfully obvious now that it was under the guidance of a genius - Khun Vichai. It seems as if criticism of the ownership besmirches his memory in some way.
I also suspect that may change over the next few years if the present level of incompetence is maintained; it's going to be difficult whether we're relegated or not. Are they up to the challenge? We'll see, but a good pointer in the right direction for me would be a change of DoF for starters (I expect to be disappointed on that one).
That’s a great post Nuneaton, absolutely sums up the way I feel perfectly. I think you’re right. The acceptance from most of our fan base comes from not being able to separate Top from Vichai. They view the King Power ownership as one complete tenure and therefore we’ve had a great ride and should be grateful for that, not outraged about our current situation.
That for me has been a big factor in our slide to the bottom. Top and the board remain completely unchallenged and next season the fan base need to get more vocal.
I totally agree on the Maddison penalty by the way. A Dean Smith decision apparently. No idea why he changed the penalty takers when he came into the club, that will see us relegated I think. Then again when you make car crash decisions like sacking Rodgers without a plan and then even approaching someone like Smith (who should be nowhere near Leicester) that’s what happens
I'm not going to blame Deano, not fair to pick on his decisions when he's been put in an almost impossible situation by the ineptitude of Top and the management.
Despite this I'm not convinced he's the man for the job next year - whatever league we're in.
Maybe Shakey should have been screaming in his ear for Vards to take the penalty, he's probably more culpable for that decision than Smith?
The Leicester City story would make an interesting case subject for a psychological study into what happens to a fan base of a 'smaller' club when it achieves astronomical success in a short space of time. We had no right to achieve what we did and the football community never really accepted it, beyond platitudes about what a wonderful story it was - but we weren't suppose to carry on that success. Some of that attitude has rubbed off on the fans, undoubtedly.
I will confess that when we won the FA Cup, to me that felt like the crowning glory - the moment when we achieved the full domestic set. I was content with knowing that was our lot. But what do you do when you've won everything there is to win, and there's no realistic chance of matching or bettering that? We really are the only non-big club to have done what we have done, and that's an incredible, ridiculous achievement that we can treasure until we die - but what happens next? Where do you go when you have reached the pinnacle? That is something I think we have to come to terms with - the fact that there is little to no chance that we can ever match those achievements.
In truth, there was a chance to get somewhere close to those achievements, between 2019-21, but we ruined that chance to achieve top four and missed out on returning to the Champions League - not once, but twice. That, in retrospect, was our last chance to achieve elite status, to be recognised as a club that could compete and beat the establishment, and we blew it.
I do kinda understand why some of our fans feel that we've completed football, and everything else is secondary to the warm glow of nostalgia we can heat ourselves with for the decades to come. I don't necessarily agree but I do think we're a unique example of a club that has achieved everything it possibly can, has a popular owner and a good (but chronically underperforming) team, yet is still spiraling towards a crushing catastrophe and has, at times, alternated between both complacency and acceptance.
The good news is that Detectives Rudkin and Whelan are on the case, and will be reporting on our failures in the summer. I am sure the report will hold those responsible to account and provide a blueprint for how we move forward....
Interesting comments Foxello. The what should have comw next after winning the FA cup was really to cement our place in the top 7 by continuing the model that brought us to where we were. Instead the club had complete delusions of grandeur off the pitch and neglected what was happening on it.
The focus shifted to infrastructure. To growing the commercial revenue through a new stadium complex and a state of the art training facility which can only be described as vanity projects now. During the middle of an unprecedented economic situation, the club handed out lucrative contracts they couldn’t afford, continued to spend money they didn’t have (on rubbish), threw everything into the stadium expansion and training facilities, backing off the spree against loans tied to PL TV money.
All we needed to do was exactly what Brighton are doing. The golden rule for a club like ours is don’t take your eye off the football side of the business - ever. We did, ran out of money at a time when a squad refresh was needed and it’s cost us our PL future. You’d have to go back a long way to find a club as badly managed as ours has been.
Rudkin and Whelan conducting an investigation into what has gone wrong is absolutely laughable and another indication that Top has no business being in football ownership
I was looking for a good sign going forward from Top after this dreadful season.
Instead I get an indication that he is not on a steep learning curve towards the greatness his father achieved, he doesn't appear to have progressed at all if the laughable decision to appoint the potentially chief guilty parties to oversee the investigation into the present fiasco is anything to go by. Seriously, the two most likely culpable actors in getting us to the awful financial and player situation the club is in put in charge of deciding what went wrong? Cue Brendan as the chief scapegoat methinks!
Yeah it’s about as valuable as appointing TB to do the investigation. The man they backed completely for the whole of the season and handed unprecedented power to will now be completely culpable for everything I would imagine.
comment by Foxello - "a miserable Rodgers obsessed weirdo" (U6985)
posted 21 hours, 14 minutes ago
The Leicester City story would make an interesting case subject for a psychological study into what happens to a fan base of a 'smaller' club when it achieves astronomical success in a short space of time. We had no right to achieve what we did and the football community never really accepted it, beyond platitudes about what a wonderful story it was - but we weren't suppose to carry on that success. Some of that attitude has rubbed off on the fans, undoubtedly.
I will confess that when we won the FA Cup, to me that felt like the crowning glory - the moment when we achieved the full domestic set. I was content with knowing that was our lot. But what do you do when you've won everything there is to win, and there's no realistic chance of matching or bettering that? We really are the only non-big club to have done what we have done, and that's an incredible, ridiculous achievement that we can treasure until we die - but what happens next? Where do you go when you have reached the pinnacle? That is something I think we have to come to terms with - the fact that there is little to no chance that we can ever match those achievements.
In truth, there was a chance to get somewhere close to those achievements, between 2019-21, but we ruined that chance to achieve top four and missed out on returning to the Champions League - not once, but twice. That, in retrospect, was our last chance to achieve elite status, to be recognised as a club that could compete and beat the establishment, and we blew it.
I do kinda understand why some of our fans feel that we've completed football, and everything else is secondary to the warm glow of nostalgia we can heat ourselves with for the decades to come. I don't necessarily agree but I do think we're a unique example of a club that has achieved everything it possibly can, has a popular owner and a good (but chronically underperforming) team, yet is still spiraling towards a crushing catastrophe and has, at times, alternated between both complacency and acceptance.
The good news is that Detectives Rudkin and Whelan are on the case, and will be reporting on our failures in the summer. I am sure the report will hold those responsible to account and provide a blueprint for how we move forward....
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Having re-read this I've realised it isn't correct in one assertion, 'We really are the only non-big club to have done what we have done' and 'we're a unique example of a club that has achieved everything it possibly can'.
There is one that's gone before in achieving heights never seen before or since over a brief period in its history; yes I'm talking about the smaller club that won their single top division trophy and two European Cups in a period of just three years under the guidance of a genius. So we're not alone.
If Forest are anything to go by Leicester fans will be able to nostalgically bask in the glow of this successful period for decades to come.
One could probably add Blackburn Rovers to the list as they have only a single instance of top level success in the modern era, their other two titles coming pre-First World War.
Fair points, Nuneaton.
RE Forest - I was mostly referring to clubs in the PL era. I know football existed before 1992 but an entire generation or two of football fans (myself included) weren't even born when Forest and Clough had their period of success. Football was also less of a closed shop back then, and quite a few smaller clubs had periods of success - see Villa, Derby, Ipswich, etc. It is much harder, to the point where it is almost impossible, to achieve that now - which makes our success even more remarkable.
RE Blackburn - their success was almost 100% due to the investment from Jack Walker, buying top quality players after promotion and building a very good team from scratch, which was something that football hadn't experienced pre-Abramovic. Whereas our success was both sustained over several years, and much more organic (yes KP have invested significantly since 2010, but our net spend pre 15-16 was very low compared to most other clubs in the PL at that time).
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comment by Wahl Icht Roma (U22997)
posted 26 minutes ago
the glory of the Ranieri era faded when you sacked him a few months after winning the league.
Honestly you deserve relegation
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Has Jose responded to any of your love letters yet Wahl?
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comment by Wahl Icht Roma (U22997)
posted 1 hour, 1 minute ago
Was that funny in your head?
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Genuine question mate
posted on 25/5/23
Leicester could be relegated
Coventry could be promoted
Wouldn't be good
If you still regard Coventry as local rivals that is
posted on 25/5/23
Obviously Wahl isn’t allowed to comment because he’s clinically thick
posted on 25/5/23
comment by 99 Problems (but Rodgers ain’t one) (U12353)
posted 1 hour, 5 minutes ago
Obviously Wahl isn’t allowed to comment because he’s clinically thick
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And he is a khunt
posted on 27/5/23
I suspect you've only had some wums on this thread as there's an element of truth in it, but mainly because we're in such a depressing situation. I've finally forced myself to post something.
This has to be a strong candidate for the 'best' squad to get relegated, on paper at least. The table doesn't lie however, what has been proven is that these players and manager were singularly poorly equipped for the situation they found themselves in, a relegation battle at the bottom of the table.
This season has been truly dreadful, like watching a car crash in slow motion, it's had far more negative impact on me than the relegation to League 1, as it was so avoidable. We've had so many opportunities to avoid this happening, one sticks out for me like a sore thumb; the insane decision for a fully functioning Vardy not to take the penalty against Everton is going to see us finally relegated, we'd be above them now and in the box seat for tomorrow if he had taken that. When I've said that previously TB trys to switch the narrative to his obsession on Brendan's culpability, which is missing the point, in a season where we had multiple opportunities to avoid the drop, this is the most critical for me, the most avoidable, the stupidest single decision at such a low level which is effectively the one which is the difference between us going down and potentially staying up.
I am of course talking as if we are already relegated. I can't see anything else happening tomorrow but in a season where we've been absolutely awful for the majority of it, we're somehow in a situation where we could conceivably still get out of the mire. I'd be delighted to proven to be a complete mug by the evening.
The blame for the mismanagement of the finances, lack of action in changing the manager when it was blatantly obvious he wasn't suitable for the present situation and critically for the long term, persisting with an incompetent DoF who has presided over a catastrophic situation on player contracts in particular sits solely with Top and the board.
So why isn't there Ashley or Glazer style outrage amongst the fan base? I don't think it's because there's a small club mentality, I suspect it's more to do with the substantial brownie points earned by what this family have achieved under their ownership, an unprecedented period of success. I know that it's painfully obvious now that it was under the guidance of a genius - Khun Vichai. It seems as if criticism of the ownership besmirches his memory in some way.
I also suspect that may change over the next few years if the present level of incompetence is maintained; it's going to be difficult whether we're relegated or not. Are they up to the challenge? We'll see, but a good pointer in the right direction for me would be a change of DoF for starters (I expect to be disappointed on that one).
posted on 27/5/23
That’s a great post Nuneaton, absolutely sums up the way I feel perfectly. I think you’re right. The acceptance from most of our fan base comes from not being able to separate Top from Vichai. They view the King Power ownership as one complete tenure and therefore we’ve had a great ride and should be grateful for that, not outraged about our current situation.
That for me has been a big factor in our slide to the bottom. Top and the board remain completely unchallenged and next season the fan base need to get more vocal.
I totally agree on the Maddison penalty by the way. A Dean Smith decision apparently. No idea why he changed the penalty takers when he came into the club, that will see us relegated I think. Then again when you make car crash decisions like sacking Rodgers without a plan and then even approaching someone like Smith (who should be nowhere near Leicester) that’s what happens
posted on 27/5/23
I'm not going to blame Deano, not fair to pick on his decisions when he's been put in an almost impossible situation by the ineptitude of Top and the management.
Despite this I'm not convinced he's the man for the job next year - whatever league we're in.
Maybe Shakey should have been screaming in his ear for Vards to take the penalty, he's probably more culpable for that decision than Smith?
posted on 27/5/23
The Leicester City story would make an interesting case subject for a psychological study into what happens to a fan base of a 'smaller' club when it achieves astronomical success in a short space of time. We had no right to achieve what we did and the football community never really accepted it, beyond platitudes about what a wonderful story it was - but we weren't suppose to carry on that success. Some of that attitude has rubbed off on the fans, undoubtedly.
I will confess that when we won the FA Cup, to me that felt like the crowning glory - the moment when we achieved the full domestic set. I was content with knowing that was our lot. But what do you do when you've won everything there is to win, and there's no realistic chance of matching or bettering that? We really are the only non-big club to have done what we have done, and that's an incredible, ridiculous achievement that we can treasure until we die - but what happens next? Where do you go when you have reached the pinnacle? That is something I think we have to come to terms with - the fact that there is little to no chance that we can ever match those achievements.
In truth, there was a chance to get somewhere close to those achievements, between 2019-21, but we ruined that chance to achieve top four and missed out on returning to the Champions League - not once, but twice. That, in retrospect, was our last chance to achieve elite status, to be recognised as a club that could compete and beat the establishment, and we blew it.
I do kinda understand why some of our fans feel that we've completed football, and everything else is secondary to the warm glow of nostalgia we can heat ourselves with for the decades to come. I don't necessarily agree but I do think we're a unique example of a club that has achieved everything it possibly can, has a popular owner and a good (but chronically underperforming) team, yet is still spiraling towards a crushing catastrophe and has, at times, alternated between both complacency and acceptance.
The good news is that Detectives Rudkin and Whelan are on the case, and will be reporting on our failures in the summer. I am sure the report will hold those responsible to account and provide a blueprint for how we move forward....
posted on 27/5/23
Interesting comments Foxello. The what should have comw next after winning the FA cup was really to cement our place in the top 7 by continuing the model that brought us to where we were. Instead the club had complete delusions of grandeur off the pitch and neglected what was happening on it.
The focus shifted to infrastructure. To growing the commercial revenue through a new stadium complex and a state of the art training facility which can only be described as vanity projects now. During the middle of an unprecedented economic situation, the club handed out lucrative contracts they couldn’t afford, continued to spend money they didn’t have (on rubbish), threw everything into the stadium expansion and training facilities, backing off the spree against loans tied to PL TV money.
All we needed to do was exactly what Brighton are doing. The golden rule for a club like ours is don’t take your eye off the football side of the business - ever. We did, ran out of money at a time when a squad refresh was needed and it’s cost us our PL future. You’d have to go back a long way to find a club as badly managed as ours has been.
Rudkin and Whelan conducting an investigation into what has gone wrong is absolutely laughable and another indication that Top has no business being in football ownership
posted on 28/5/23
I was looking for a good sign going forward from Top after this dreadful season.
Instead I get an indication that he is not on a steep learning curve towards the greatness his father achieved, he doesn't appear to have progressed at all if the laughable decision to appoint the potentially chief guilty parties to oversee the investigation into the present fiasco is anything to go by. Seriously, the two most likely culpable actors in getting us to the awful financial and player situation the club is in put in charge of deciding what went wrong? Cue Brendan as the chief scapegoat methinks!
posted on 28/5/23
Yeah it’s about as valuable as appointing TB to do the investigation. The man they backed completely for the whole of the season and handed unprecedented power to will now be completely culpable for everything I would imagine.
posted on 28/5/23
comment by Foxello - "a miserable Rodgers obsessed weirdo" (U6985)
posted 21 hours, 14 minutes ago
The Leicester City story would make an interesting case subject for a psychological study into what happens to a fan base of a 'smaller' club when it achieves astronomical success in a short space of time. We had no right to achieve what we did and the football community never really accepted it, beyond platitudes about what a wonderful story it was - but we weren't suppose to carry on that success. Some of that attitude has rubbed off on the fans, undoubtedly.
I will confess that when we won the FA Cup, to me that felt like the crowning glory - the moment when we achieved the full domestic set. I was content with knowing that was our lot. But what do you do when you've won everything there is to win, and there's no realistic chance of matching or bettering that? We really are the only non-big club to have done what we have done, and that's an incredible, ridiculous achievement that we can treasure until we die - but what happens next? Where do you go when you have reached the pinnacle? That is something I think we have to come to terms with - the fact that there is little to no chance that we can ever match those achievements.
In truth, there was a chance to get somewhere close to those achievements, between 2019-21, but we ruined that chance to achieve top four and missed out on returning to the Champions League - not once, but twice. That, in retrospect, was our last chance to achieve elite status, to be recognised as a club that could compete and beat the establishment, and we blew it.
I do kinda understand why some of our fans feel that we've completed football, and everything else is secondary to the warm glow of nostalgia we can heat ourselves with for the decades to come. I don't necessarily agree but I do think we're a unique example of a club that has achieved everything it possibly can, has a popular owner and a good (but chronically underperforming) team, yet is still spiraling towards a crushing catastrophe and has, at times, alternated between both complacency and acceptance.
The good news is that Detectives Rudkin and Whelan are on the case, and will be reporting on our failures in the summer. I am sure the report will hold those responsible to account and provide a blueprint for how we move forward....
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Having re-read this I've realised it isn't correct in one assertion, 'We really are the only non-big club to have done what we have done' and 'we're a unique example of a club that has achieved everything it possibly can'.
There is one that's gone before in achieving heights never seen before or since over a brief period in its history; yes I'm talking about the smaller club that won their single top division trophy and two European Cups in a period of just three years under the guidance of a genius. So we're not alone.
If Forest are anything to go by Leicester fans will be able to nostalgically bask in the glow of this successful period for decades to come.
One could probably add Blackburn Rovers to the list as they have only a single instance of top level success in the modern era, their other two titles coming pre-First World War.
posted on 28/5/23
Fair points, Nuneaton.
RE Forest - I was mostly referring to clubs in the PL era. I know football existed before 1992 but an entire generation or two of football fans (myself included) weren't even born when Forest and Clough had their period of success. Football was also less of a closed shop back then, and quite a few smaller clubs had periods of success - see Villa, Derby, Ipswich, etc. It is much harder, to the point where it is almost impossible, to achieve that now - which makes our success even more remarkable.
RE Blackburn - their success was almost 100% due to the investment from Jack Walker, buying top quality players after promotion and building a very good team from scratch, which was something that football hadn't experienced pre-Abramovic. Whereas our success was both sustained over several years, and much more organic (yes KP have invested significantly since 2010, but our net spend pre 15-16 was very low compared to most other clubs in the PL at that time).
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