Warwick i know you were wondering why you couldn't post on the article. The OP of threads can filter posters to stop folk commenting. That may have been what happened.

Could you not just say 'grow a pair'?

comment by Admin1 (U1)
posted 1 minute ago
Warwick i know you were wondering why you couldn't post on the article. The OP of threads can filter posters to stop folk commenting. That may have been what happened.
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All good - and no issues either way. Appreciate the heads up, Admin.

comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 2 minutes ago
Could you not just say 'grow a pair'?
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I don't need to. I'm standing by my view, but I'll support my fellow LCFC fan(s) with theirs now.

I think what’s happened here is you’ve decided to fight fire with fire - and it’s not gone well. I mean I can’t remember a situation where confronting perceived aggression (and that is your perception not fact) with equal aggression has helped any situation.

What you’ve got so wrong I suspect is perhaps reading a few of foxellos latest posts without maybe the context of his posting history. Now if you want to call me a bully or a troll - I’d accept that. At times I am. I get very angry about Leicester and at times, especially on match days, I’ll go way too far. But Foxello isn’t in the same bracket - he hasn’t bullied anyone. To accuse of him doing so is just completely wrong. You’ve picked on the wrong target basically.

In any case - if you want to fight Tops corner, then by all means go ahead. For some however, this is a place to vent their frustrations and anger at the club and they’re entitled to do that in my opinion

All fair.

In truth, I think it went as well as it needed to in one sense, by getting Foxello to look at themselves and what they've posted, acknowledging it went too far. Foxello did that.

However, I also agree that nobody wants to see a poster fall away as a result of an aggressive exchange. That's why I've said what I have now. And yes, perhaps looking at a curated history of Foxello's views may have given me pause before engaging the way I did.

I'll fight Leicester's corner and whatever I feel is best for it. I think that is with Top at the top and a much stronger and more capable/qualified Board and conduit to the on-field side.

I, like you, would be concerned (and yes, a bit irritated to put it mildly) if we still see Rudkin, Whelan and a third-choice manager still in post by early July.

All so very sad and unneccessary, although it does appear that some on here cannot discuss or disagree without personal criticism and sniping.
The key word is respect, listen and respect others opinions as we all see somethings the same and some rather differently,but opinions are healthy.
We have to appreciate that we all love our club,and its success and disappointment means so much to us all.
Supporting a club like ours that has seen such extremes,and in my many years of watching us does affect our state of mind, the lows are bad, but the highs are unforgettable.
That is what passion for a club does to real fans,and we should all remember that.
if i feel down and in a dark place (which i have recently ) , the best remedy is on you tube with Bocelli on that wonderful May afternoon.
Even after all these years it uplifts me,and that season was quite simply the time of our lives.
Be grateful we saw it happen.

For me personally it’s anger. I’m so angry about how it’s ended that at the moment it’s clouding the good times. That will change at some point but that anger from my side is directed at posters who I feel are contributing to the problem. I guess if I saw us challenging and lobbying for change more as a fan base then I’d feel as if we are taking control of the situation.

Thanks, Thorney and 99 - and this is the bit (from 99) that I can't quite get my head around. I don't understand the logic you are applying to the situation. What control do you think we can take? Or pressure you feel we can exert on an entity that is wholly-owned by a large, financially solid global, or at least far-eastern conglomerate?

Perhaps I am coming across as a "holier than thou" poster here in being able to set my frustrations aside and see a picture going forward.

I don't see (and at the moment don't agree) that I am "contributing to the problem" by supporting the club through thick and thin (as I see it). We are in a leaner time now. Typically that requires unity and standing together (as a traditional concept).

What would you suggest are reasonable courses of action, to effect the change you want to see, 99?

It’s a very good question. So for me - fans can be incredibly influential on decisions clubs make. Look at what happened over the backlash with the European super league for example. If the fans had bought into it, I think it may well have gone ahead in some form.

Now I’m not comparing our situation to anything like that - nor do I want to see mass protests outside the King Power stadium stopping the team bus. What I think I would like however is for fans to make their feelings known about the board to the board.

That could be done in a number of ways - personally I think Foxes Trust would be a good channel to do that but as a supporters trust I think they need to be more honest and open about the frustration the fans feel. There are a significant number of fans who feel that we are a rudderless club, declining at an alarming rate. Their problem is with the board and specifically Rudkin. A trust acting on behalf of its supporters should I think make these feelings known to the club

Secondly I think more fans could unite to increase the pressure on Top to make the necessary changes. Why should they sit back and watch the club they love be taken from top 6 to the championship in barely just over 18 months. Let’s voice our feelings about the changes we feel need to be made. Why are Rudkin and Whelan (arguably the architects of our demise) the ones carrying out the review into what went wrong?

Fans can voice their feelings with messages and banners at home games (done in a respectful and non abusive way) and I think next season, if we still have the same circus in charge that’s exactly what needs to happen

Are you a member of the Foxes Trust? If we truly want to start asking questions - we probably need to engage with the Trust and get people on the Board?

https://foxestrust.co.uk/foxes-trust-board

I note there is a paragraph at the bottom of the link here which invites new members:

"If you are interested in becoming a board member in the future please e-mail the Chairman with details of the kind of contribution (not financial) you would like to make. The Trust Board would welcome additions to the team running the Trust"

Agree - Rudkin and Whelan undertaking the review is nonsensical, given they are the chief culprits (or certainly Rudkin).

This is a difficult thread to come into but what I don't want to see is any of my fellow Blue Army supporters on here directing their ire against each other, as that is counter productive as we have seen with Foxello feeling the need to take a break from here.
Human nature being what it is means that we can all have differing opinions ( and sometimes they will differ widely as they are here) and that is always encouraged but hopefully whatever our individual stance we are all after one thing..... and that is seeing our club turn around and get back into the Premier League at the earliest opportunity.
Now I am the first to admit that I have been accused in the past of being a "glass half full" person and that may come through on here as well.
I certainly do not see things as bleak as some others on here ( and who knows which one of us is right) but we are all united in wanting the best for Leicester City.
Unfortunately we all know that words read on here can be perceived incorrectly, but they will normally come from the heart of YWF, Foxello, 99 etc......
We are all pished off right now, none of us know how the next 8 weeks will pan out.... but let us continue discussing, voicing our opinions, celebrating, commiserating, supporting and respect each other.
Personally if we hear tomorrow that Rudkin has been sacked then i think we all be partying in the streets.....
As 99 says if the summer passes and we are still dissatisfied then banners etc at home games is certainly acceptable. I do think that some clubs have a close relationship with their fans ( and we have been there) and others ( Spurs) treat them as customers not fans ( and we are heading that way, it feels like that). Top has the chance to get that relationship back, lets see where we go.
One thing is for certain, our club needs our support, ever since 1977 at home to Ipswich it has had mine and that will continue.
#hamzaisthefuture

UTF

Well said everyone! I think Appleton pretty much covers what we all think very eloquently.
One thing that I have noticed about this board, and I’ve mentioned it before, is that the vast majority of regular posters do so respectfully; diametrically opposed to some of the other boards where the abuse and vitriol is outrageous. The likelihood of us all having the same opinion, thankfully, is remote. That we can do so without abusing others for not sharing a particular view is fundamental to regular organised society. Keep it up please!

Incidentally, the suggestion about communicating with the Foxes Trust is a sound one. I suspect 99 might be the ideal candidate for that!

And finally I hope Foxello doesn’t abandon us completely. His, like everybody else’s views, are always worth reading,

UTF

comment by YoungWarwickFox (U22486)
posted 4 hours, 38 minutes ago
Are you a member of the Foxes Trust? If we truly want to start asking questions - we probably need to engage with the Trust and get people on the Board?

https://foxestrust.co.uk/foxes-trust-board

I note there is a paragraph at the bottom of the link here which invites new members:

"If you are interested in becoming a board member in the future please e-mail the Chairman with details of the kind of contribution (not financial) you would like to make. The Trust Board would welcome additions to the team running the Trust"

Agree - Rudkin and Whelan undertaking the review is nonsensical, given they are the chief culprits (or certainly Rudkin).
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I’m definitely not a member. I’ll have a read through - had no idea you could join and hadn’t really considered it in the past.

YWF, you've found out that strong personal attacks on other posters on this board do not usually end well; frequently resulting in filtering, sometimes in people (as in this case) leaving the board on a temporary or permanent basis.

I can however understand all sides here. I'm of the view that Top and the family have earned sufficient brownie points with me to have my ongoing support, this may change if he does not start demonstrating that he is learning; replacement of the DoF in particular is needed as a matter of some urgency.

You realise that what happened to Bury could happen to us, this has been my concern. We are in a terrible position financially, a club which has been focussed on being competitive for Europe with no thought of relegation from the Premier League now having to deal with Championship level financing. We could easily end up with points deductions, in League 1 or even administration (only a small step away from liquidation at that point). I hope not, but we could be in for some dark days ahead which could threaten the club's very existence.

I notice that in your original posting you listed me as a poster in the referenced thread, but did not include any comment on my postings. I am aware that instant responses can lead to one making comments which on reflection should not be communicated; as such I do try and take the emotion out as much as possible which is difficult. One thing I'm certain of, is that all LCFC supporters who post on this forum have a passion for the club.

I will normally read through and make changes to a draft post numerous times before pressing send. Sometimes I'll even sit on a draft for a while and return to it later to see it with a fresh perspective. I try and edit out anything which is too controversial. I do realise that it's very easy to get the wrong message in text exchanges, something that would not perhaps happen in a one-to-one conversation.

I really enjoy being part of the Foxes family and to be able to debate relevant current affairs with others, the more the merrier, different opinions welcome! So it is sad when someone leaves the forum. It would also be very boring if everybody agreed with each other all the time.

The Foxes Trust stuff is interesting. They have commented on relegation and the message from the club's chairman: https://foxestrust.co.uk/9937/foxes-trust-board-comment-on-relegation-and-the-message-from-the-clubs-chairman

This is included in the comments: ' The purpose of the Trust is not to second-guess football-related decisions made by the Club. It is to ensure that the Club is run effectively and well'. I find this a strange position to take, it is difficult to see how you can separate the two aspects as football decisions (see many previous comments by all on 'Rudkin' and 'Rodgers' ) can - and have last season had and are having - a catastrophic impact on the club's finances; the two are inextricably intertwined. It is also significant that nothing is mentioned about the frankly laughable and ridiculous decision for an investigation into what went wrong to be led by two of the main protagonists.

I suspect that the Trust walks a tightrope in its approach to the club which probably steers it away from too much controversy; after all, they can't have much effect if the club refuses to deal with them. In any event I await with interest any feedback if someone decides to get more involved with them.

I really enjoy this forum over others because in the main people have strong differing opinions but are respectful with them.

But the purpose of debate is to disagree on topics and to understand others viewpoints. That’s why I’m on here. To educate myself to other people’s views and to let them shape mine.

Now, I often disagree with people on this forum and feel like I get it thrown at me as a result. But I don’t take that personally. I’ve learned to understand that just because my opinion annoys some tone doesn’t make it wrong, nor does it makes theirs wrong. It makes them different.

I like to debate and give me views and I know I drive 99 round the twist sometimes by refusing to accept his views as my own. But I enjoy the fact that we disagree. This forum would be an utterly dull place without disagreement.

Now what we have this year is a lot of angry supporters looking for someone to blame for this season. And we all have our scapegoats. Some of us blame Rodgers and the players more. Some of us the ownership. They all share part of the blame in reality.

I will maintain my support for Top and KP’s ownership until I see them making business decisions that are not in the best interest of the club. With the training ground and stadium expansion I just don’t see that yet. Of course they’ve made mistakes, but it’s how they come back for them that matters to me.

I will be there fully behind the team and ownership next season. I’m a Leicester fan and I will support us whatever division we’re in. Let’s challenge the ownership and their decisions in a respectful way of it isn’t working out, like we challenge on here.

Keep debating everyone, keep disagreeing, it’s what makes it fun and interesting and helps us learn.

Blue Army.

Well said Mersey.
😂🦊

“I will maintain my support for Top and KP’s ownership until I see them making business decisions that are not in the best interest of the club”

Yeah you see that’s what drives me round the twist 😂 I would argue racking up record losses, stretching ourselves to pay far higher wages than other clubs of our size to gamble for Europe, taking out massive loans backed against PL TV money and then losing £100m of said PL income through relegation isn’t really making business decisions that are in the best interest of the club

I enjoy our debates Mersey but what drives me round the twist is the fact that in my view, you never really seem to take on board the counter argument. I don’t think I’ve seen you shift your position one minuscule whenever myself, Nuneaton and Foxello have presented you with some pretty compelling facts to the contrary

comment by 99 Problems (but Rodgers ain’t one) (U12353)
posted 16 hours, 28 minutes ago
“I will maintain my support for Top and KP’s ownership until I see them making business decisions that are not in the best interest of the club”

Yeah you see that’s what drives me round the twist 😂 I would argue racking up record losses, stretching ourselves to pay far higher wages than other clubs of our size to gamble for Europe, taking out massive loans backed against PL TV money and then losing £100m of said PL income through relegation isn’t really making business decisions that are in the best interest of the club

I enjoy our debates Mersey but what drives me round the twist is the fact that in my view, you never really seem to take on board the counter argument. I don’t think I’ve seen you shift your position one minuscule whenever myself, Nuneaton and Foxello have presented you with some pretty compelling facts to the contrary
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Of course I haven’t made because you are all wrong 😉😉😉

😂😂 Well yeah there is that….