comment by Cinciwolf----Old Trafford record attendance.....WOLVES V GRIMSBY. .......lolz (U11551)
posted 32 minutes ago
comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 35 minutes ago
I'd like to know what goes on inside the heads of people who actually get annoyed by the fact that women's football is getting more promotion than it used to. I just don't get the hostility.
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It isn't hostility. But it does smack of some silly woke period where they are forcing the issue rather than letting it grow organically. Womens footy will never be big financially as it isn't in the US despite far more popularity among women to play.
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It was repressed for years though, at best all this promotion has barely put a dent in the damage done by the past. It's obviously just opinion but trying to accelerate the growth of it seems worth it if not at times a bit cringeworthy in regard to the top of the women's game.
I don't understand why anyone has an issue with clubs and media outlets doing the sensible thing to get women spending more money on football
comment by Bãleš left boot (U22081)
posted 45 minutes ago
I don't understand why anyone has an issue with clubs and media outlets doing the sensible thing to get women spending more money on football
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Right, but womens footy isn't the way to go. Women could spend more money on mens footy if done right. It is fairly obvious that the promoting and forcing the issue of womens footy is far more than just a way to generate money for the game.
Marketing and promotion is how all products grow. They did the same with the Prem back in the 90s. But anything to do with women or minorities is always seen as "forcing it" in a world where white men control nearly everything.
Gone to far they will NOT ban me from being white we need too fight back
I've been following Chelsea ladies pretty much since they were created and watched their games when they started showing them on Chelsea TV over 20 years ago. I've been to league games, Cup, games and finals and champions league games.
The game has changed a lot during this time, I had no interest before Chelsea had a team buy that interest has grown. For me that is purely down to the fact that I see our ladies team as an extension of my club. I like to watch the youth teams as well when I get a chance but that's more difficult for me these days since they removed Chelsea tv from Sky and tend to stream everything these days due to work.
For me this discussion is typical pigeon holing, whereby we make sweeping statements based on little information, narrow mindedness and full of clichés. I bet the first time I mentioned Chelsea many will have drawn an opinion of me and that probably wasn't very positive.
There are some great players out there, Mary Earps and our Anne Katrin-Berger are great keepers, Fran Kirby is amazing when fit and Guru Reiten is developing along those lines. Erin Cuthbert is a beast of a midfielder who can give and take a pretty hefty challenge but is also quite a player and Sam Kerr is an amazing striker. Clearly I speak mostly of Chelsea players here because they are the ones I see most of but everyteam has their greats. I also e joy watching them at an international level. I've learnt a lot about the game and the clichés.
There are many reasons some follow the ladies, it can be gender based, team loyalties, cost, location and I'm sure many other reasons.
I know Chelsea fans that have zero interest in the women's team and I know some of the men that go watch the ladies prefer that to the men's game because its so much cheaper and easier to go to in terms of tickets (that's changing). I also know some fans of Chelsea ladies also follow other men's teams rather than Chelsea men's team.
I'm a Chelsea men's season ticket holder, my first game was about 74, I have been going regularly since 79 and I'm not given up the men's game anytime soon, I will always go to the men's first team games over the ladies because that's my passion. I'm happy to embrace the ladies game though when I can. It's fun, it's not a threat.
I see women claiming it will compete with the men's game, maybe it will, maybe it won't but from where I sit it has a long way to go, and it has come a long way since I started watching it but then so has football, but then I started watching that in the 60's.
There are a lot of clichés about women's football, the lack of diving, quality, goalkeepers but I've always seen clichés as being the tools of lazy people that can't be bothered or don't have the experience to form their own opinion.
If you feel its being pushed and you aren't interested, tune it out like I do with all the betting adds we get fed to us constantly whilst watching.
Incidently, Arsenal have one of the biggest followings in the women's game but they were for a long time, along with the Brighton Belles the back bone of the women's game. My first WSL cup final was against Arsenal and some of the young lady Arsenal fans were less than lady like in their opinions of the Chlesa fans along Wembley way, it made me smile. Had to bite my tongue of course.
comment by Pierre Reedy (U1734)
posted 9 hours, 57 minutes ago
Hello. I am the world's first openly gay football fan and I find this quite offensive. Over recent years I have been trying to start The Gay League, a league for homosexual footballers and this kind of attitude is just holding us back. So far we have had good support from the BBC with them saying they will show the season opener free to air for everyone. Football is for everyone, not just for straight, white males.
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Unfortunately this is typical, object to something innocent because you don't rate it and some people turn it into a homophobic rant....the state of the world today🤦🏻♂️
comment by Got_Better (U6241)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Pierre Reedy (U1734)
posted 9 hours, 57 minutes ago
Hello. I am the world's first openly gay football fan and I find this quite offensive. Over recent years I have been trying to start The Gay League, a league for homosexual footballers and this kind of attitude is just holding us back. So far we have had good support from the BBC with them saying they will show the season opener free to air for everyone. Football is for everyone, not just for straight, white males.
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Unfortunately this is typical, object to something innocent because you don't rate it and some people turn it into a homophobic rant....the state of the world today🤦🏻♂️
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I agree that the world has gone insane. Me and my boyfriend were getting frisky on the train and some snowflake told us to stop as they had their children with them. It is perfectly natural and if it offends you then look elsewhere. People are to soft these day's
They also tried too ban us from the church just because we were kissing and we are both men. What is the world coming too? You can't do any thing these day's without offending some one or being cancelled bring back the old day's I say
I much prefer women’s soccer to men’s soccer. It’s a lot more physical, more goals and a much more inclusive atmosphere
The upcoming world cup may arouse some interest but apart from that cant really get into it.
The era I grew up in, women and football werent really a thing. No girls in school played football.If they did I would have taken more interest.
Much prefer womens wrestling anyway.
Enjoying GLOW on Netflix
The standard is so fat off the mens level I struggle to watch.
I’m hoping though the World Cup this summer gets me interested.
They are artificially forcing it, I'm only interested in it because of Arsenal, other than that i couldn't watch a woman's game with the other teams, apart from the world cup.
But I love sports so I will continue to support it and will try and go to some games when I'm around
I've seen a lot of people in this thread say the only issue they have with the promotion of womens football is that they're "forcing it" too much. In what way can they promote the sport without "forcing it"? That is the entire purpose of marketing. Mens football isn't exactly promoted through word of mouth only, it is forced into our eyeballs in countless ways every single day.
comment by Gaffer Pranky (U22336)
posted 33 minutes ago
The standard is so fat off the mens level I struggle to watch.
I’m hoping though the World Cup this summer gets me interested.
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Far not fat ffs
comment by WorkPermitPending (U1067)
posted 1 minute ago
I've seen a lot of people in this thread say the only issue they have with the promotion of womens football is that they're "forcing it" too much. In what way can they promote the sport without "forcing it"? That is the entire purpose of marketing. Mens football isn't exactly promoted through word of mouth only, it is forced into our eyeballs in countless ways every single day.
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Yes but the product is very good.
Womens footy unfortunately just isn’t very good, and it’s like watching a slow motion version of mens footy.
Hopefully that changes over time so I have 2 teams to follow.
comment by Gaffer Pranky (U22336)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by WorkPermitPending (U1067)
posted 1 minute ago
I've seen a lot of people in this thread say the only issue they have with the promotion of womens football is that they're "forcing it" too much. In what way can they promote the sport without "forcing it"? That is the entire purpose of marketing. Mens football isn't exactly promoted through word of mouth only, it is forced into our eyeballs in countless ways every single day.
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Yes but the product is very good.
Womens footy unfortunately just isn’t very good, and it’s like watching a slow motion version of mens footy.
Hopefully that changes over time so I have 2 teams to follow.
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Often the product in men's football - even the hallowed land of the EPL - isn't very good at all, yet we chuck nonsense amounts of money at bang average players so we can watch it. But that's marketing for you.
Its the bloody liberal's trying to force thing's on us again. Are side has never tried to force are thing's on any one like Christmas, religion or the royal family. We just go about them discreetly and dont shove it down others peoples throat's
comment by Pierre Reedy (U1734)
posted 2 minutes ago
Its the bloody liberal's trying to force thing's on us again. Are side has never tried to force are thing's on any one like Christmas, religion or the royal family. We just go about them discreetly and dont shove it down others peoples throat's
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None of those are forced on people, imo....
comment by Got_Better (U6241)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Pierre Reedy (U1734)
posted 2 minutes ago
Its the bloody liberal's trying to force thing's on us again. Are side has never tried to force are thing's on any one like Christmas, religion or the royal family. We just go about them discreetly and dont shove it down others peoples throat's
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None of those are forced on people, imo....
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LOL. Close the article
There is a difference between "informed" and "forced"...
You're telling me the royal family isn't shoved down our throats constantly? it's a fvcking embarrassment that really shows up what an ass-backwards country we are. If it's not through patriotic flag sh@gging where we're all supposed to pledge our allegiance to the king through our TV sets then it's the constant tabloid tattle about whether Harry's speaking to his brother this week or not.
comment by WorkPermitPending (U1067)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by Gaffer Pranky (U22336)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by WorkPermitPending (U1067)
posted 1 minute ago
I've seen a lot of people in this thread say the only issue they have with the promotion of womens football is that they're "forcing it" too much. In what way can they promote the sport without "forcing it"? That is the entire purpose of marketing. Mens football isn't exactly promoted through word of mouth only, it is forced into our eyeballs in countless ways every single day.
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Yes but the product is very good.
Womens footy unfortunately just isn’t very good, and it’s like watching a slow motion version of mens footy.
Hopefully that changes over time so I have 2 teams to follow.
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Often the product in men's football - even the hallowed land of the EPL - isn't very good at all, yet we chuck nonsense amounts of money at bang average players so we can watch it. But that's marketing for you.
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It’s like comparing night and day tbh.
I hope it improves tbh but at the mo the standard just ain’t very good.
Maybe the World Cup will spark my interest.
Tory tradition shaaagers: yes, we have to all pay for a man to sit on a gold thrown and yes we force children to be brain washed which causes multiple divisions and wars along with child abuse, but that's the way it has always been and needs to be respected.
Someone who thinks at least 5 minutes into the future: I might spread butter on my toast with a fork.
Tory tradition shaaagers: OMG stop forcing these ridiculous ideas on us. I'm so easily upset about the tiniest of things that might change something ever so slightly compared to what it had been when we could shaaag kids and enslave back people. Oh my previous past.
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posted on 4/6/23
comment by Cinciwolf----Old Trafford record attendance.....WOLVES V GRIMSBY. .......lolz (U11551)
posted 32 minutes ago
comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 35 minutes ago
I'd like to know what goes on inside the heads of people who actually get annoyed by the fact that women's football is getting more promotion than it used to. I just don't get the hostility.
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It isn't hostility. But it does smack of some silly woke period where they are forcing the issue rather than letting it grow organically. Womens footy will never be big financially as it isn't in the US despite far more popularity among women to play.
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It was repressed for years though, at best all this promotion has barely put a dent in the damage done by the past. It's obviously just opinion but trying to accelerate the growth of it seems worth it if not at times a bit cringeworthy in regard to the top of the women's game.
posted on 4/6/23
I don't understand why anyone has an issue with clubs and media outlets doing the sensible thing to get women spending more money on football
posted on 4/6/23
comment by Bãleš left boot (U22081)
posted 45 minutes ago
I don't understand why anyone has an issue with clubs and media outlets doing the sensible thing to get women spending more money on football
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Right, but womens footy isn't the way to go. Women could spend more money on mens footy if done right. It is fairly obvious that the promoting and forcing the issue of womens footy is far more than just a way to generate money for the game.
posted on 4/6/23
Marketing and promotion is how all products grow. They did the same with the Prem back in the 90s. But anything to do with women or minorities is always seen as "forcing it" in a world where white men control nearly everything.
posted on 4/6/23
Gone to far they will NOT ban me from being white we need too fight back
posted on 4/6/23
I've been following Chelsea ladies pretty much since they were created and watched their games when they started showing them on Chelsea TV over 20 years ago. I've been to league games, Cup, games and finals and champions league games.
The game has changed a lot during this time, I had no interest before Chelsea had a team buy that interest has grown. For me that is purely down to the fact that I see our ladies team as an extension of my club. I like to watch the youth teams as well when I get a chance but that's more difficult for me these days since they removed Chelsea tv from Sky and tend to stream everything these days due to work.
For me this discussion is typical pigeon holing, whereby we make sweeping statements based on little information, narrow mindedness and full of clichés. I bet the first time I mentioned Chelsea many will have drawn an opinion of me and that probably wasn't very positive.
There are some great players out there, Mary Earps and our Anne Katrin-Berger are great keepers, Fran Kirby is amazing when fit and Guru Reiten is developing along those lines. Erin Cuthbert is a beast of a midfielder who can give and take a pretty hefty challenge but is also quite a player and Sam Kerr is an amazing striker. Clearly I speak mostly of Chelsea players here because they are the ones I see most of but everyteam has their greats. I also e joy watching them at an international level. I've learnt a lot about the game and the clichés.
There are many reasons some follow the ladies, it can be gender based, team loyalties, cost, location and I'm sure many other reasons.
I know Chelsea fans that have zero interest in the women's team and I know some of the men that go watch the ladies prefer that to the men's game because its so much cheaper and easier to go to in terms of tickets (that's changing). I also know some fans of Chelsea ladies also follow other men's teams rather than Chelsea men's team.
I'm a Chelsea men's season ticket holder, my first game was about 74, I have been going regularly since 79 and I'm not given up the men's game anytime soon, I will always go to the men's first team games over the ladies because that's my passion. I'm happy to embrace the ladies game though when I can. It's fun, it's not a threat.
I see women claiming it will compete with the men's game, maybe it will, maybe it won't but from where I sit it has a long way to go, and it has come a long way since I started watching it but then so has football, but then I started watching that in the 60's.
There are a lot of clichés about women's football, the lack of diving, quality, goalkeepers but I've always seen clichés as being the tools of lazy people that can't be bothered or don't have the experience to form their own opinion.
If you feel its being pushed and you aren't interested, tune it out like I do with all the betting adds we get fed to us constantly whilst watching.
Incidently, Arsenal have one of the biggest followings in the women's game but they were for a long time, along with the Brighton Belles the back bone of the women's game. My first WSL cup final was against Arsenal and some of the young lady Arsenal fans were less than lady like in their opinions of the Chlesa fans along Wembley way, it made me smile. Had to bite my tongue of course.
posted on 4/6/23
comment by Pierre Reedy (U1734)
posted 9 hours, 57 minutes ago
Hello. I am the world's first openly gay football fan and I find this quite offensive. Over recent years I have been trying to start The Gay League, a league for homosexual footballers and this kind of attitude is just holding us back. So far we have had good support from the BBC with them saying they will show the season opener free to air for everyone. Football is for everyone, not just for straight, white males.
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Unfortunately this is typical, object to something innocent because you don't rate it and some people turn it into a homophobic rant....the state of the world today🤦🏻♂️
posted on 4/6/23
comment by Got_Better (U6241)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Pierre Reedy (U1734)
posted 9 hours, 57 minutes ago
Hello. I am the world's first openly gay football fan and I find this quite offensive. Over recent years I have been trying to start The Gay League, a league for homosexual footballers and this kind of attitude is just holding us back. So far we have had good support from the BBC with them saying they will show the season opener free to air for everyone. Football is for everyone, not just for straight, white males.
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Unfortunately this is typical, object to something innocent because you don't rate it and some people turn it into a homophobic rant....the state of the world today🤦🏻♂️
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I agree that the world has gone insane. Me and my boyfriend were getting frisky on the train and some snowflake told us to stop as they had their children with them. It is perfectly natural and if it offends you then look elsewhere. People are to soft these day's
posted on 4/6/23
They also tried too ban us from the church just because we were kissing and we are both men. What is the world coming too? You can't do any thing these day's without offending some one or being cancelled bring back the old day's I say
posted on 4/6/23
I much prefer women’s soccer to men’s soccer. It’s a lot more physical, more goals and a much more inclusive atmosphere
posted on 4/6/23
The upcoming world cup may arouse some interest but apart from that cant really get into it.
The era I grew up in, women and football werent really a thing. No girls in school played football.If they did I would have taken more interest.
Much prefer womens wrestling anyway.
Enjoying GLOW on Netflix
posted on 4/6/23
The standard is so fat off the mens level I struggle to watch.
I’m hoping though the World Cup this summer gets me interested.
posted on 4/6/23
They are artificially forcing it, I'm only interested in it because of Arsenal, other than that i couldn't watch a woman's game with the other teams, apart from the world cup.
But I love sports so I will continue to support it and will try and go to some games when I'm around
posted on 4/6/23
I've seen a lot of people in this thread say the only issue they have with the promotion of womens football is that they're "forcing it" too much. In what way can they promote the sport without "forcing it"? That is the entire purpose of marketing. Mens football isn't exactly promoted through word of mouth only, it is forced into our eyeballs in countless ways every single day.
posted on 4/6/23
comment by Gaffer Pranky (U22336)
posted 33 minutes ago
The standard is so fat off the mens level I struggle to watch.
I’m hoping though the World Cup this summer gets me interested.
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Far not fat ffs
posted on 4/6/23
comment by WorkPermitPending (U1067)
posted 1 minute ago
I've seen a lot of people in this thread say the only issue they have with the promotion of womens football is that they're "forcing it" too much. In what way can they promote the sport without "forcing it"? That is the entire purpose of marketing. Mens football isn't exactly promoted through word of mouth only, it is forced into our eyeballs in countless ways every single day.
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Yes but the product is very good.
Womens footy unfortunately just isn’t very good, and it’s like watching a slow motion version of mens footy.
Hopefully that changes over time so I have 2 teams to follow.
posted on 4/6/23
comment by Gaffer Pranky (U22336)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by WorkPermitPending (U1067)
posted 1 minute ago
I've seen a lot of people in this thread say the only issue they have with the promotion of womens football is that they're "forcing it" too much. In what way can they promote the sport without "forcing it"? That is the entire purpose of marketing. Mens football isn't exactly promoted through word of mouth only, it is forced into our eyeballs in countless ways every single day.
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Yes but the product is very good.
Womens footy unfortunately just isn’t very good, and it’s like watching a slow motion version of mens footy.
Hopefully that changes over time so I have 2 teams to follow.
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Often the product in men's football - even the hallowed land of the EPL - isn't very good at all, yet we chuck nonsense amounts of money at bang average players so we can watch it. But that's marketing for you.
posted on 4/6/23
Its the bloody liberal's trying to force thing's on us again. Are side has never tried to force are thing's on any one like Christmas, religion or the royal family. We just go about them discreetly and dont shove it down others peoples throat's
posted on 4/6/23
women eh ..gota love em❤
posted on 4/6/23
comment by Pierre Reedy (U1734)
posted 2 minutes ago
Its the bloody liberal's trying to force thing's on us again. Are side has never tried to force are thing's on any one like Christmas, religion or the royal family. We just go about them discreetly and dont shove it down others peoples throat's
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None of those are forced on people, imo....
posted on 4/6/23
comment by Got_Better (U6241)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Pierre Reedy (U1734)
posted 2 minutes ago
Its the bloody liberal's trying to force thing's on us again. Are side has never tried to force are thing's on any one like Christmas, religion or the royal family. We just go about them discreetly and dont shove it down others peoples throat's
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None of those are forced on people, imo....
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LOL. Close the article
posted on 4/6/23
There is a difference between "informed" and "forced"...
posted on 4/6/23
You're telling me the royal family isn't shoved down our throats constantly? it's a fvcking embarrassment that really shows up what an ass-backwards country we are. If it's not through patriotic flag sh@gging where we're all supposed to pledge our allegiance to the king through our TV sets then it's the constant tabloid tattle about whether Harry's speaking to his brother this week or not.
posted on 4/6/23
comment by WorkPermitPending (U1067)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by Gaffer Pranky (U22336)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by WorkPermitPending (U1067)
posted 1 minute ago
I've seen a lot of people in this thread say the only issue they have with the promotion of womens football is that they're "forcing it" too much. In what way can they promote the sport without "forcing it"? That is the entire purpose of marketing. Mens football isn't exactly promoted through word of mouth only, it is forced into our eyeballs in countless ways every single day.
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Yes but the product is very good.
Womens footy unfortunately just isn’t very good, and it’s like watching a slow motion version of mens footy.
Hopefully that changes over time so I have 2 teams to follow.
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Often the product in men's football - even the hallowed land of the EPL - isn't very good at all, yet we chuck nonsense amounts of money at bang average players so we can watch it. But that's marketing for you.
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It’s like comparing night and day tbh.
I hope it improves tbh but at the mo the standard just ain’t very good.
Maybe the World Cup will spark my interest.
posted on 4/6/23
Tory tradition shaaagers: yes, we have to all pay for a man to sit on a gold thrown and yes we force children to be brain washed which causes multiple divisions and wars along with child abuse, but that's the way it has always been and needs to be respected.
Someone who thinks at least 5 minutes into the future: I might spread butter on my toast with a fork.
Tory tradition shaaagers: OMG stop forcing these ridiculous ideas on us. I'm so easily upset about the tiniest of things that might change something ever so slightly compared to what it had been when we could shaaag kids and enslave back people. Oh my previous past.
That's you
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