comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 2 minutes ago
Someone above did make a good point about his Mrs being happy to be with him and have his kid. That has made this far more complicated for the club because if she hadn't I don't think he'd even have a 1% chance of playing again.
Ultimately the club make the call too, not us.
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The club will make the call based on how they think it will go down with the fans, that's us.
comment by Pierre Reedy (U1734)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 2 minutes ago
Someone above did make a good point about his Mrs being happy to be with him and have his kid. That has made this far more complicated for the club because if she hadn't I don't think he'd even have a 1% chance of playing again.
Ultimately the club make the call too, not us.
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The club will make the call based on how they think it will go down with the fans, that's us.
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Also, they have to consider Greenwoods mental state. Can he handle the abuse from 40k away fans week in week out?
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 17 minutes ago
comment by manutd1982 (U6633)
posted 6 minutes ago
Great example using Chris Brown, a man accused of beating several women?
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Has he ever been charged for beating several women or this is just something you want to throw around for the sake of it??
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You haven’t seen the pictures of Rhianna then
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Oh he will have. Its just won't bother him because regardless of her being beaten black and blue, she probably deserved it. Alpha male just laying down the law.
It's his kinky side.
The club will make a call based on how far Chris Brown can get away with beating up women obviously.
Option 2 for me. I hope he does realise what he's done,and vows to become better.
But I couldn't cheer him on, the recording did it for me. It sounded more like he hated her than loved her.p
Probably 2 for me as well.
Regardless, I'd be very surprised if Greenwood returns the same player, or even gets back to that level. These are 2 crucial years of development where he has had no involvement with the game whatsoever.
If he did play for us again then I would throw away my ipad and never stream a United game again. Then the club would surely reverse the decision. Us fans need to be taken seriously.
comment by Pierre Reedy (U1734)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 2 minutes ago
Someone above did make a good point about his Mrs being happy to be with him and have his kid. That has made this far more complicated for the club because if she hadn't I don't think he'd even have a 1% chance of playing again.
Ultimately the club make the call too, not us.
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The club will make the call based on how they think it will go down with the fans, that's us.
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Fans are fickle though. If he bangs in a winner against City would you boo? Of course not.
They can't sack him now that's for sure. So it's sell loan or keep.
I think they will loan him personally and buy some time to assess the situation for next summer.
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 13 minutes ago
Someone above did make a good point about his Mrs being happy to be with him and have his kid. That has made this far more complicated for the club because if she hadn't I don't think he'd even have a 1% chance of playing again.
Ultimately the club make the call too, not us.
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It isn’t a good point.
It’s a terrible, terrible, terrible point.
Which demonstrates an absolutely astounding lack of knowledge/understanding of the dynamics of violent, abusive relationships.
There are literally millions of women around the globe who stay with, and marry, and have the children of, men who beat them *and their kids* on a daily basis.
HOW DO PEOPLE NOT KNOW THIS IN THE 21ST CENTURY FFFS?!
comment by -bloodred- (U1222)
posted 6 minutes ago
Probably 2 for me as well.
Regardless, I'd be very surprised if Greenwood returns the same player, or even gets back to that level. These are 2 crucial years of development where he has had no involvement with the game whatsoever.
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A good point, is he even worth all the hassle?
Has he been training with the squad do we know?
There’s always the very real possibility that he repeats his behaviour so why risk it? Send him overseas.
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posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 13 minutes ago
Someone above did make a good point about his Mrs being happy to be with him and have his kid. That has made this far more complicated for the club because if she hadn't I don't think he'd even have a 1% chance of playing again.
Ultimately the club make the call too, not us.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It isn’t a good point.
It’s a terrible, terrible, terrible point.
Which demonstrates an absolutely astounding lack of knowledge/understanding of the dynamics of violent, abusive relationships.
There are literally millions of women around the globe who stay with, and marry, and have the children of, men who beat them *and their kids* on a daily basis.
HOW DO PEOPLE NOT KNOW THIS IN THE 21ST CENTURY FFFS?!
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Are you forgetting that people are stupid? That could be your first mistake there
comment by rosso says the time has come to unlock the unlimited Pote-ntial of the Fernançalvemiro triumvirate (U17054)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 13 minutes ago
Someone above did make a good point about his Mrs being happy to be with him and have his kid. That has made this far more complicated for the club because if she hadn't I don't think he'd even have a 1% chance of playing again.
Ultimately the club make the call too, not us.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It isn’t a good point.
It’s a terrible, terrible, terrible point.
Which demonstrates an absolutely astounding lack of knowledge/understanding of the dynamics of violent, abusive relationships.
There are literally millions of women around the globe who stay with, and marry, and have the children of, men who beat them *and their kids* on a daily basis.
HOW DO PEOPLE NOT KNOW THIS IN THE 21ST CENTURY FFFS?!
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I never said anything like that and I'm fully aware of those points you raised.
If it was so easy then why has nothing been decided yet then? Clearly it is more complex than you make out.
Didn't the police statement also say withdrawal of witness AND new evidence that has come to light too? So we don't have the full facts.
I still think he should go on loan too and we buy some time.
comment by Robb Cummins-Lyon (U22716)
posted 59 seconds ago
There’s always the very real possibility that he repeats his behaviour so why risk it? Send him overseas.
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So let him go and do it somewhere else?
Truth is none of us really know. It seems most are in one of to camps, people who commit such crimes cannot be rehabilitated and deserve a lifetime of punishment and others who do believe people can turn their lives around and deserve a second chance.
Without a true picture though, we can only go on the video evidence. Everything else is ifs or buts and there are plenty of variables to situations like this.
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 45 seconds ago
comment by rosso says the time has come to unlock the unlimited Pote-ntial of the Fernançalvemiro triumvirate (U17054)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 13 minutes ago
Someone above did make a good point about his Mrs being happy to be with him and have his kid. That has made this far more complicated for the club because if she hadn't I don't think he'd even have a 1% chance of playing again.
Ultimately the club make the call too, not us.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It isn’t a good point.
It’s a terrible, terrible, terrible point.
Which demonstrates an absolutely astounding lack of knowledge/understanding of the dynamics of violent, abusive relationships.
There are literally millions of women around the globe who stay with, and marry, and have the children of, men who beat them *and their kids* on a daily basis.
HOW DO PEOPLE NOT KNOW THIS IN THE 21ST CENTURY FFFS?!
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I never said anything like that and I'm fully aware of those points you raised.
If it was so easy then why has nothing been decided yet then? Clearly it is more complex than you make out.
Didn't the police statement also say withdrawal of witness AND new evidence that has come to light too? So we don't have the full facts.
I still think he should go on loan too and we buy some time.
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Did you listen to the recording?
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 30 minutes ago
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 17 minutes ago
comment by manutd1982 (U6633)
posted 6 minutes ago
Great example using Chris Brown, a man accused of beating several women?
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Has he ever been charged for beating several women or this is just something you want to throw around for the sake of it??
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You haven’t seen the pictures of Rhianna then
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And this equals several?? I really should go back to school. Picture of Rihanna= “several”
comment by Robb Cummins-Lyon (U22716)
posted 4 minutes ago
There’s always the very real possibility that he repeats his behaviour so why risk it? Send him overseas.
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The recidivism rate for perpetrators of domestic violence is incredibly high, even when compared with other violent crimes.
Statistically speaking, offenders reoffend. That's what they do.
comment by Pierre Reedy (U1734)
posted 36 seconds ago
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 45 seconds ago
comment by rosso says the time has come to unlock the unlimited Pote-ntial of the Fernançalvemiro triumvirate (U17054)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 13 minutes ago
Someone above did make a good point about his Mrs being happy to be with him and have his kid. That has made this far more complicated for the club because if she hadn't I don't think he'd even have a 1% chance of playing again.
Ultimately the club make the call too, not us.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It isn’t a good point.
It’s a terrible, terrible, terrible point.
Which demonstrates an absolutely astounding lack of knowledge/understanding of the dynamics of violent, abusive relationships.
There are literally millions of women around the globe who stay with, and marry, and have the children of, men who beat them *and their kids* on a daily basis.
HOW DO PEOPLE NOT KNOW THIS IN THE 21ST CENTURY FFFS?!
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I never said anything like that and I'm fully aware of those points you raised.
If it was so easy then why has nothing been decided yet then? Clearly it is more complex than you make out.
Didn't the police statement also say withdrawal of witness AND new evidence that has come to light too? So we don't have the full facts.
I still think he should go on loan too and we buy some time.
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Did you listen to the recording?
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Of course I did. It was awful.
However we don't have trial by social media in this country do we? We may as well sack all the judges and get rid of courts if we are to go down that route.
The club have to decide ultimately. I will back their decision either way as they have more info than we do for sure.
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by rosso says the time has come to unlock the unlimited Pote-ntial of the Fernançalvemiro triumvirate (U17054)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 13 minutes ago
Someone above did make a good point about his Mrs being happy to be with him and have his kid. That has made this far more complicated for the club because if she hadn't I don't think he'd even have a 1% chance of playing again.
Ultimately the club make the call too, not us.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It isn’t a good point.
It’s a terrible, terrible, terrible point.
Which demonstrates an absolutely astounding lack of knowledge/understanding of the dynamics of violent, abusive relationships.
There are literally millions of women around the globe who stay with, and marry, and have the children of, men who beat them *and their kids* on a daily basis.
HOW DO PEOPLE NOT KNOW THIS IN THE 21ST CENTURY FFFS?!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I never said anything like that and I'm fully aware of those points you raised.
If it was so easy then why has nothing been decided yet then? Clearly it is more complex than you make out.
Didn't the police statement also say withdrawal of witness AND new evidence that has come to light too? So we don't have the full facts.
I still think he should go on loan too and we buy some time.
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I was referring, clearly and directly, to the point you cited as being "a good point".
It isn't a good point; it's a catastrophically shiiiiit point.
That's all.
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 19 seconds ago
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 30 minutes ago
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 17 minutes ago
comment by manutd1982 (U6633)
posted 6 minutes ago
Great example using Chris Brown, a man accused of beating several women?
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Has he ever been charged for beating several women or this is just something you want to throw around for the sake of it??
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You haven’t seen the pictures of Rhianna then
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And this equals several?? I really should go back to school. Picture of Rihanna= “several”
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Even if it was ‘just’ Rihanna he should have been cancelled for life for that
comment by rosso says the time has come to unlock the unlimited Pote-ntial of the Fernançalvemiro triumvirate (U17054)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by rosso says the time has come to unlock the unlimited Pote-ntial of the Fernançalvemiro triumvirate (U17054)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 13 minutes ago
Someone above did make a good point about his Mrs being happy to be with him and have his kid. That has made this far more complicated for the club because if she hadn't I don't think he'd even have a 1% chance of playing again.
Ultimately the club make the call too, not us.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It isn’t a good point.
It’s a terrible, terrible, terrible point.
Which demonstrates an absolutely astounding lack of knowledge/understanding of the dynamics of violent, abusive relationships.
There are literally millions of women around the globe who stay with, and marry, and have the children of, men who beat them *and their kids* on a daily basis.
HOW DO PEOPLE NOT KNOW THIS IN THE 21ST CENTURY FFFS?!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I never said anything like that and I'm fully aware of those points you raised.
If it was so easy then why has nothing been decided yet then? Clearly it is more complex than you make out.
Didn't the police statement also say withdrawal of witness AND new evidence that has come to light too? So we don't have the full facts.
I still think he should go on loan too and we buy some time.
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I was referring, clearly and directly, to the point you cited as being "a good point".
It isn't a good point; it's a catastrophically shiiiiit point.
That's all.
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Whether you disagree or not.....that decision of them trying to make it work is giving him a lifeline to maybe play again is it not?
Without it I doubt he'd have any chance tbh.
Someone above did make a good point about his Mrs being happy to be with him and have his kid. That has made this far more complicated for the club because if she hadn't I don't think he'd even have a 1% chance of playing again.
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I’m sure a few holidays in Barbados and a brand new Lambo dulled her objections nicely
comment by Robb Cummins-Lyon (U22716)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 19 seconds ago
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 30 minutes ago
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 17 minutes ago
comment by manutd1982 (U6633)
posted 6 minutes ago
Great example using Chris Brown, a man accused of beating several women?
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Has he ever been charged for beating several women or this is just something you want to throw around for the sake of it??
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You haven’t seen the pictures of Rhianna then
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And this equals several?? I really should go back to school. Picture of Rihanna= “several”
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Even if it was ‘just’ Rihanna he should have been cancelled for life for that
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Don't be soft you aussie beta.
He only did it once. He was just showing her where she lies in the food chain. Tate said so.
There’s always the very real possibility that he repeats his behaviour so why risk it? Send him overseas.
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To somewhere where beating up women is more palatable?
Do we still have that convict island in the southern hemisphere?
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posted on 23/6/23
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 2 minutes ago
Someone above did make a good point about his Mrs being happy to be with him and have his kid. That has made this far more complicated for the club because if she hadn't I don't think he'd even have a 1% chance of playing again.
Ultimately the club make the call too, not us.
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The club will make the call based on how they think it will go down with the fans, that's us.
posted on 23/6/23
comment by Pierre Reedy (U1734)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 2 minutes ago
Someone above did make a good point about his Mrs being happy to be with him and have his kid. That has made this far more complicated for the club because if she hadn't I don't think he'd even have a 1% chance of playing again.
Ultimately the club make the call too, not us.
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The club will make the call based on how they think it will go down with the fans, that's us.
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Also, they have to consider Greenwoods mental state. Can he handle the abuse from 40k away fans week in week out?
posted on 23/6/23
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 17 minutes ago
comment by manutd1982 (U6633)
posted 6 minutes ago
Great example using Chris Brown, a man accused of beating several women?
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Has he ever been charged for beating several women or this is just something you want to throw around for the sake of it??
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You haven’t seen the pictures of Rhianna then
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Oh he will have. Its just won't bother him because regardless of her being beaten black and blue, she probably deserved it. Alpha male just laying down the law.
It's his kinky side.
posted on 23/6/23
The club will make a call based on how far Chris Brown can get away with beating up women obviously.
posted on 23/6/23
Option 2 for me. I hope he does realise what he's done,and vows to become better.
But I couldn't cheer him on, the recording did it for me. It sounded more like he hated her than loved her.p
posted on 23/6/23
Probably 2 for me as well.
Regardless, I'd be very surprised if Greenwood returns the same player, or even gets back to that level. These are 2 crucial years of development where he has had no involvement with the game whatsoever.
posted on 23/6/23
If he did play for us again then I would throw away my ipad and never stream a United game again. Then the club would surely reverse the decision. Us fans need to be taken seriously.
posted on 23/6/23
comment by Pierre Reedy (U1734)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 2 minutes ago
Someone above did make a good point about his Mrs being happy to be with him and have his kid. That has made this far more complicated for the club because if she hadn't I don't think he'd even have a 1% chance of playing again.
Ultimately the club make the call too, not us.
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The club will make the call based on how they think it will go down with the fans, that's us.
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Fans are fickle though. If he bangs in a winner against City would you boo? Of course not.
They can't sack him now that's for sure. So it's sell loan or keep.
I think they will loan him personally and buy some time to assess the situation for next summer.
posted on 23/6/23
Option 1
posted on 23/6/23
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 13 minutes ago
Someone above did make a good point about his Mrs being happy to be with him and have his kid. That has made this far more complicated for the club because if she hadn't I don't think he'd even have a 1% chance of playing again.
Ultimately the club make the call too, not us.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It isn’t a good point.
It’s a terrible, terrible, terrible point.
Which demonstrates an absolutely astounding lack of knowledge/understanding of the dynamics of violent, abusive relationships.
There are literally millions of women around the globe who stay with, and marry, and have the children of, men who beat them *and their kids* on a daily basis.
HOW DO PEOPLE NOT KNOW THIS IN THE 21ST CENTURY FFFS?!
posted on 23/6/23
comment by -bloodred- (U1222)
posted 6 minutes ago
Probably 2 for me as well.
Regardless, I'd be very surprised if Greenwood returns the same player, or even gets back to that level. These are 2 crucial years of development where he has had no involvement with the game whatsoever.
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A good point, is he even worth all the hassle?
Has he been training with the squad do we know?
posted on 23/6/23
There’s always the very real possibility that he repeats his behaviour so why risk it? Send him overseas.
posted on 23/6/23
comment by rosso says the time has come to unlock the unlimited Pote-ntial of the Fernançalvemiro triumvirate (U17054)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 13 minutes ago
Someone above did make a good point about his Mrs being happy to be with him and have his kid. That has made this far more complicated for the club because if she hadn't I don't think he'd even have a 1% chance of playing again.
Ultimately the club make the call too, not us.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It isn’t a good point.
It’s a terrible, terrible, terrible point.
Which demonstrates an absolutely astounding lack of knowledge/understanding of the dynamics of violent, abusive relationships.
There are literally millions of women around the globe who stay with, and marry, and have the children of, men who beat them *and their kids* on a daily basis.
HOW DO PEOPLE NOT KNOW THIS IN THE 21ST CENTURY FFFS?!
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Are you forgetting that people are stupid? That could be your first mistake there
posted on 23/6/23
comment by rosso says the time has come to unlock the unlimited Pote-ntial of the Fernançalvemiro triumvirate (U17054)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 13 minutes ago
Someone above did make a good point about his Mrs being happy to be with him and have his kid. That has made this far more complicated for the club because if she hadn't I don't think he'd even have a 1% chance of playing again.
Ultimately the club make the call too, not us.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It isn’t a good point.
It’s a terrible, terrible, terrible point.
Which demonstrates an absolutely astounding lack of knowledge/understanding of the dynamics of violent, abusive relationships.
There are literally millions of women around the globe who stay with, and marry, and have the children of, men who beat them *and their kids* on a daily basis.
HOW DO PEOPLE NOT KNOW THIS IN THE 21ST CENTURY FFFS?!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I never said anything like that and I'm fully aware of those points you raised.
If it was so easy then why has nothing been decided yet then? Clearly it is more complex than you make out.
Didn't the police statement also say withdrawal of witness AND new evidence that has come to light too? So we don't have the full facts.
I still think he should go on loan too and we buy some time.
posted on 23/6/23
comment by Robb Cummins-Lyon (U22716)
posted 59 seconds ago
There’s always the very real possibility that he repeats his behaviour so why risk it? Send him overseas.
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So let him go and do it somewhere else?
Truth is none of us really know. It seems most are in one of to camps, people who commit such crimes cannot be rehabilitated and deserve a lifetime of punishment and others who do believe people can turn their lives around and deserve a second chance.
Without a true picture though, we can only go on the video evidence. Everything else is ifs or buts and there are plenty of variables to situations like this.
posted on 23/6/23
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 45 seconds ago
comment by rosso says the time has come to unlock the unlimited Pote-ntial of the Fernançalvemiro triumvirate (U17054)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 13 minutes ago
Someone above did make a good point about his Mrs being happy to be with him and have his kid. That has made this far more complicated for the club because if she hadn't I don't think he'd even have a 1% chance of playing again.
Ultimately the club make the call too, not us.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It isn’t a good point.
It’s a terrible, terrible, terrible point.
Which demonstrates an absolutely astounding lack of knowledge/understanding of the dynamics of violent, abusive relationships.
There are literally millions of women around the globe who stay with, and marry, and have the children of, men who beat them *and their kids* on a daily basis.
HOW DO PEOPLE NOT KNOW THIS IN THE 21ST CENTURY FFFS?!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I never said anything like that and I'm fully aware of those points you raised.
If it was so easy then why has nothing been decided yet then? Clearly it is more complex than you make out.
Didn't the police statement also say withdrawal of witness AND new evidence that has come to light too? So we don't have the full facts.
I still think he should go on loan too and we buy some time.
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Did you listen to the recording?
posted on 23/6/23
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 30 minutes ago
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 17 minutes ago
comment by manutd1982 (U6633)
posted 6 minutes ago
Great example using Chris Brown, a man accused of beating several women?
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Has he ever been charged for beating several women or this is just something you want to throw around for the sake of it??
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You haven’t seen the pictures of Rhianna then
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And this equals several?? I really should go back to school. Picture of Rihanna= “several”
posted on 23/6/23
comment by Robb Cummins-Lyon (U22716)
posted 4 minutes ago
There’s always the very real possibility that he repeats his behaviour so why risk it? Send him overseas.
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The recidivism rate for perpetrators of domestic violence is incredibly high, even when compared with other violent crimes.
Statistically speaking, offenders reoffend. That's what they do.
posted on 23/6/23
comment by Pierre Reedy (U1734)
posted 36 seconds ago
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 45 seconds ago
comment by rosso says the time has come to unlock the unlimited Pote-ntial of the Fernançalvemiro triumvirate (U17054)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 13 minutes ago
Someone above did make a good point about his Mrs being happy to be with him and have his kid. That has made this far more complicated for the club because if she hadn't I don't think he'd even have a 1% chance of playing again.
Ultimately the club make the call too, not us.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It isn’t a good point.
It’s a terrible, terrible, terrible point.
Which demonstrates an absolutely astounding lack of knowledge/understanding of the dynamics of violent, abusive relationships.
There are literally millions of women around the globe who stay with, and marry, and have the children of, men who beat them *and their kids* on a daily basis.
HOW DO PEOPLE NOT KNOW THIS IN THE 21ST CENTURY FFFS?!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I never said anything like that and I'm fully aware of those points you raised.
If it was so easy then why has nothing been decided yet then? Clearly it is more complex than you make out.
Didn't the police statement also say withdrawal of witness AND new evidence that has come to light too? So we don't have the full facts.
I still think he should go on loan too and we buy some time.
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Did you listen to the recording?
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Of course I did. It was awful.
However we don't have trial by social media in this country do we? We may as well sack all the judges and get rid of courts if we are to go down that route.
The club have to decide ultimately. I will back their decision either way as they have more info than we do for sure.
posted on 23/6/23
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by rosso says the time has come to unlock the unlimited Pote-ntial of the Fernançalvemiro triumvirate (U17054)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 13 minutes ago
Someone above did make a good point about his Mrs being happy to be with him and have his kid. That has made this far more complicated for the club because if she hadn't I don't think he'd even have a 1% chance of playing again.
Ultimately the club make the call too, not us.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It isn’t a good point.
It’s a terrible, terrible, terrible point.
Which demonstrates an absolutely astounding lack of knowledge/understanding of the dynamics of violent, abusive relationships.
There are literally millions of women around the globe who stay with, and marry, and have the children of, men who beat them *and their kids* on a daily basis.
HOW DO PEOPLE NOT KNOW THIS IN THE 21ST CENTURY FFFS?!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I never said anything like that and I'm fully aware of those points you raised.
If it was so easy then why has nothing been decided yet then? Clearly it is more complex than you make out.
Didn't the police statement also say withdrawal of witness AND new evidence that has come to light too? So we don't have the full facts.
I still think he should go on loan too and we buy some time.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I was referring, clearly and directly, to the point you cited as being "a good point".
It isn't a good point; it's a catastrophically shiiiiit point.
That's all.
posted on 23/6/23
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 19 seconds ago
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 30 minutes ago
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 17 minutes ago
comment by manutd1982 (U6633)
posted 6 minutes ago
Great example using Chris Brown, a man accused of beating several women?
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Has he ever been charged for beating several women or this is just something you want to throw around for the sake of it??
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You haven’t seen the pictures of Rhianna then
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And this equals several?? I really should go back to school. Picture of Rihanna= “several”
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Even if it was ‘just’ Rihanna he should have been cancelled for life for that
posted on 23/6/23
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Someone above did make a good point about his Mrs being happy to be with him and have his kid. That has made this far more complicated for the club because if she hadn't I don't think he'd even have a 1% chance of playing again.
Ultimately the club make the call too, not us.
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It isn’t a good point.
It’s a terrible, terrible, terrible point.
Which demonstrates an absolutely astounding lack of knowledge/understanding of the dynamics of violent, abusive relationships.
There are literally millions of women around the globe who stay with, and marry, and have the children of, men who beat them *and their kids* on a daily basis.
HOW DO PEOPLE NOT KNOW THIS IN THE 21ST CENTURY FFFS?!
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I never said anything like that and I'm fully aware of those points you raised.
If it was so easy then why has nothing been decided yet then? Clearly it is more complex than you make out.
Didn't the police statement also say withdrawal of witness AND new evidence that has come to light too? So we don't have the full facts.
I still think he should go on loan too and we buy some time.
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I was referring, clearly and directly, to the point you cited as being "a good point".
It isn't a good point; it's a catastrophically shiiiiit point.
That's all.
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Whether you disagree or not.....that decision of them trying to make it work is giving him a lifeline to maybe play again is it not?
Without it I doubt he'd have any chance tbh.
posted on 23/6/23
Someone above did make a good point about his Mrs being happy to be with him and have his kid. That has made this far more complicated for the club because if she hadn't I don't think he'd even have a 1% chance of playing again.
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I’m sure a few holidays in Barbados and a brand new Lambo dulled her objections nicely
posted on 23/6/23
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Great example using Chris Brown, a man accused of beating several women?
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Has he ever been charged for beating several women or this is just something you want to throw around for the sake of it??
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You haven’t seen the pictures of Rhianna then
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And this equals several?? I really should go back to school. Picture of Rihanna= “several”
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Even if it was ‘just’ Rihanna he should have been cancelled for life for that
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Don't be soft you aussie beta.
He only did it once. He was just showing her where she lies in the food chain. Tate said so.
posted on 23/6/23
There’s always the very real possibility that he repeats his behaviour so why risk it? Send him overseas.
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To somewhere where beating up women is more palatable?
Do we still have that convict island in the southern hemisphere?
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