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I said all along the start of Dele`s problems were due to the departure of Poch and the arrival of Mourinho
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And judging by the what Dele said in the interview you are still wrong.
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He literally said the departure of Poch hit him hard, you don`t need to be a rocket scientist to work out the difference in man management styles between Poch & Mourinho contributed to Dele`s problems.
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Watch it again in FULL and revise your opinion. Apology accepted.
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I`ve watched it full. Apology accepted.
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Then you struggle to see the whole picture. Instead you hang on to you weak agenda and try to pin it on Jose lol.
You're a good poster Billy but sometimes you are a clown.
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If you read what I said, instead of jumping all over the mere mention of Mourinho, I said Poch leaving and Mourinho arriving CONTRIBUTED to Dele`s problems, I did not pin it all on Mourinho at all.
Dele hinted that Poch leaving hit him hard, and Mourinho is not the kind of man manager to handle problems like what Dele had, Dele even says in the interview Poch was brilliant for him.
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First time you have used the word "Contributed"
This is what you said
"I said all along the start of Dele`s problems were due to the departure of Poch and the arrival of Mourinho" (It's above btw, are you on this planet?)
Like a typical keyboard psychiatrist and warrior, you have this delusional theory that Jose was the root cause of Dele's issues and used the soundbite to fuel you agenda.
Give it up Billy and concentrate on Penuited and LiVARpool. Oh and making money everytime Spurs lose (which I respect BTW).
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comment by Number 8ecoglou (U9729)
posted 2 minutes ago
the thing with Dele (away from this interview) is that I can hand on heart say that I judged him purely on his playing time with us and thereafter, rather than anything else in his personal life
I say that as I very rarely read anything about players, rarely read interviews, rarely watch match analysis or pre and post match press conferences, because I find it all very scripted, robotic and inauthentic. I just don't find much value in them
So when I was judging him on performances alone, I really resented having him in the squad towards the end. In fact, I'm pretty certain I remember saying to a Man Utd supporting mate of mine, that I would've sold him during the season we got to the CL final, as i felt he was spiraling downwards with his performances.
Having said that, in hindsight, perhaps judging them on playing alone isnt't maybe the right thing to do as you could argue that it dehumanises players and makes you forget that they are people with their own lives, stresses and worries etc that have a huge impact on their performances on the pitch.
Dele speaking openly about his troubles and getting in there before the gutter press can release all their fanatical versions of the events is perfect as it's taken away all of their power, and given Dele all the support and acceptance he clearly needs after what he's been through
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Only just seen this, hopefully he can get to a good place and finish his football career strongly
comment by Number 8ecoglou (U9729)
posted 8 minutes ago
the thing with Dele (away from this interview) is that I can hand on heart say that I judged him purely on his playing time with us and thereafter, rather than anything else in his personal life
I say that as I very rarely read anything about players, rarely read interviews, rarely watch match analysis or pre and post match press conferences, because I find it all very scripted, robotic and inauthentic. I just don't find much value in them
So when I was judging him on performances alone, I really resented having him in the squad towards the end. In fact, I'm pretty certain I remember saying to a Man Utd supporting mate of mine, that I would've sold him during the season we got to the CL final, as i felt he was spiraling downwards with his performances.
Having said that, in hindsight, perhaps judging them on playing alone isnt't maybe the right thing to do as you could argue that it dehumanises players and makes you forget that they are people with their own lives, stresses and worries etc that have a huge impact on their performances on the pitch.
Dele speaking openly about his troubles and getting in there before the gutter press can release all their fanatical versions of the events is perfect as it's taken away all of their power, and given Dele all the support and acceptance he clearly needs after what he's been through
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As fans, we haven't got time to worry about footballer's personnel lives because we all have stuff going on.
I wouldn't worry too much about critising a player's performance. In the same way if someone has a great game they are loved like a God.
Some players react differently to criticism and thrive on it. Some go into a shell even more. It's the nature of the game.
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comment by ●Billy The Spur● LEVY OUT- ENIC OUT! (U3924)
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I said all along the start of Dele`s problems were due to the departure of Poch and the arrival of Mourinho
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And judging by the what Dele said in the interview you are still wrong.
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He literally said the departure of Poch hit him hard, you don`t need to be a rocket scientist to work out the difference in man management styles between Poch & Mourinho contributed to Dele`s problems.
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Watch it again in FULL and revise your opinion. Apology accepted.
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I`ve watched it full. Apology accepted.
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Then you struggle to see the whole picture. Instead you hang on to you weak agenda and try to pin it on Jose lol.
You're a good poster Billy but sometimes you are a clown.
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If you read what I said, instead of jumping all over the mere mention of Mourinho, I said Poch leaving and Mourinho arriving CONTRIBUTED to Dele`s problems, I did not pin it all on Mourinho at all.
Dele hinted that Poch leaving hit him hard, and Mourinho is not the kind of man manager to handle problems like what Dele had, Dele even says in the interview Poch was brilliant for him.
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First time you have used the word "Contributed"
This is what you said
"I said all along the start of Dele`s problems were due to the departure of Poch and the arrival of Mourinho" (It's above btw, are you on this planet?)
Like a typical keyboard psychiatrist and warrior, you have this delusional theory that Jose was the root cause of Dele's issues and used the soundbite to fuel you agenda.
Give it up Billy and concentrate on Penuited and LiVARpool. Oh and making money everytime Spurs lose (which I respect BTW).
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He literally said the departure of Poch hit him hard, you don`t need to be a rocket scientist to work out the difference in man management styles between Poch & Mourinho contributed to Dele`s problems.
The above is what I wrote you facking mug. Can you not read, obviously not. Look pal, you are a facking plank and contribute fack all to this site apart from racism. Why don`t you do us all a favour and close your account
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comment by ●Billy The Spur● LEVY OUT- ENIC OUT! (U3924)
posted 11 minutes ago
I said all along the start of Dele`s problems were due to the departure of Poch and the arrival of Mourinho
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And judging by the what Dele said in the interview you are still wrong.
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He literally said the departure of Poch hit him hard, you don`t need to be a rocket scientist to work out the difference in man management styles between Poch & Mourinho contributed to Dele`s problems.
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There you go, learn to read
Doubling down are we Billy. Classic modern day way mentalility.
Look pal, you are a facking plank and contribute fack all to this site apart from racism. Why don`t you do us all a favour and close your account
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Billy come on man, you're not helping yourself here....
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Billy come on man, you're not helping yourself here....
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Just saying it how it is pal
Poor bloke was molested as a child by a friend of he’s mother , the full video is on YouTube....
Crikey!
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comment by Number 8ecoglou (U9729)
posted 8 minutes ago
the thing with Dele (away from this interview) is that I can hand on heart say that I judged him purely on his playing time with us and thereafter, rather than anything else in his personal life
I say that as I very rarely read anything about players, rarely read interviews, rarely watch match analysis or pre and post match press conferences, because I find it all very scripted, robotic and inauthentic. I just don't find much value in them
So when I was judging him on performances alone, I really resented having him in the squad towards the end. In fact, I'm pretty certain I remember saying to a Man Utd supporting mate of mine, that I would've sold him during the season we got to the CL final, as i felt he was spiraling downwards with his performances.
Having said that, in hindsight, perhaps judging them on playing alone isnt't maybe the right thing to do as you could argue that it dehumanises players and makes you forget that they are people with their own lives, stresses and worries etc that have a huge impact on their performances on the pitch.
Dele speaking openly about his troubles and getting in there before the gutter press can release all their fanatical versions of the events is perfect as it's taken away all of their power, and given Dele all the support and acceptance he clearly needs after what he's been through
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As fans, we haven't got time to worry about footballer's personnel lives because we all have stuff going on.
I wouldn't worry too much about critising a player's performance. In the same way if someone has a great game they are loved like a God.
Some players react differently to criticism and thrive on it. Some go into a shell even more. It's the nature of the game.
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As Spurs fans, one of our greatest in modern times has been Gazza. Someone who had his own issues but totally compounded by the intense media scrutiny in an era before social media.
I cannot image the difficulties Gazza would have now if he was a young footballer and in the case of Alli it just goes to show the social media is a double edged sword. A young player who embraced it but has suffered through the intense pressure and scrutiny, which have no doubt exacerbated his own personal issues.
I am one on here who always objects to the way people polarise their views - People's response if often one of two extremes, with no mitigation allowed. This reflects social media as a whole where people gravitate to these extreme positions because they have impact and no one wants to hear or read any considered middle ground view - it doesnt get enough likes!
I would urge football fans and people in general to be more considered in how they respond to others, including footballers and other sportsmen and people in the public eye, because things are rarely as simple they appear and we are all just human beings with imperfections and flaws.
comment by ●Billy The Spur● LEVY OUT- ENIC OUT! (U3924)
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comment by PhilspursFGR (U3278)
posted 7 minutes ago
Billy come on man, you're not helping yourself here....
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Just saying it how it is pal
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but you're not, your own posts have contradicted themselves in this article. You said his problems started due to the departure of Poch and the arrival of Mourinho. That's just demonstrably not the case. I agree with you that it clearly contributed to his struggles, but it's fine for you to accept that you misspoke by saying that's where it started.
To claim it all started with Jose is just laughable to be honest. It was alway there and was always going to come to the surface. Maybe you could argue that with an arm around the shoulder manager, he may have felt more peace and love but to lump this on Jose is nuts. He came through the tough lower leagues. Footballers in this country have to come through a lot of hard knocks to make it, Dele included. There's no way that Jose's confrontational style is to blame. I guess you could say that he lost a father figure in Poch and inherited a colder figure but that trauma was always there.
Really hope this has helped him. One thing is for sure, his bravery in sharing his story will inspire so many children and adults to do the same. I really hope he finds his way back to the top of the game again although I have my doubts. Sharing will help but that trauma is ingrained. I can't begin to imagine what he's going through right now. One thing is for sure, he'll feel a lot better for having shared it and got it off his chest but in a way I don't think he'll want too much attention for it. he won't want this to define him. I'm sure he just wants to get on with playing the game he loves.
Leave it Philspurs, when he lost his head, he knew he was wrong.
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Leave it Philspurs, when he lost his head, he knew he was wrong.
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yeah I sense I'm fighting a losing battle.
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comment by Number 8ecoglou (U9729)
posted 8 minutes ago
the thing with Dele (away from this interview) is that I can hand on heart say that I judged him purely on his playing time with us and thereafter, rather than anything else in his personal life
I say that as I very rarely read anything about players, rarely read interviews, rarely watch match analysis or pre and post match press conferences, because I find it all very scripted, robotic and inauthentic. I just don't find much value in them
So when I was judging him on performances alone, I really resented having him in the squad towards the end. In fact, I'm pretty certain I remember saying to a Man Utd supporting mate of mine, that I would've sold him during the season we got to the CL final, as i felt he was spiraling downwards with his performances.
Having said that, in hindsight, perhaps judging them on playing alone isnt't maybe the right thing to do as you could argue that it dehumanises players and makes you forget that they are people with their own lives, stresses and worries etc that have a huge impact on their performances on the pitch.
Dele speaking openly about his troubles and getting in there before the gutter press can release all their fanatical versions of the events is perfect as it's taken away all of their power, and given Dele all the support and acceptance he clearly needs after what he's been through
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As fans, we haven't got time to worry about footballer's personnel lives because we all have stuff going on.
I wouldn't worry too much about critising a player's performance. In the same way if someone has a great game they are loved like a God.
Some players react differently to criticism and thrive on it. Some go into a shell even more. It's the nature of the game.
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yeah I suppose you could argue that, but for example, away from Dele, think of a foreign player who maybe doesn't speak a word of English, has no family or friends when they come over here, and within a couple of games, are having fans and pundits criticising their performances and abilities.
I can imagine it's very isolating and almost feels like it's very personal.
The argument that is levelled at them is that they're paid very handsomly for the luxury of having an unconventional job that is classed by many as fun and a hobby, but that doesn't take away from the fact that they're under this immense pressure from the get go
Imagine having a boat load of money, with no one to enjoy it with, nothing to spend it on, and still having all these pressures on your shoulders.
At that point, you then don't really know how to cope with your issues because you're told that you can't have these problems, because you're rich, get on with it, or in your example, when things are going well, you're a god.
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They are all so young as well.
Feck knows what i would have done aged 23 if i was a millionaire footballer subjected to love or hate every time I step on to the pitch and confronted with the same on social media. It is no wonder some fail to live up to expectations - whether its pressure or loss of focus or apathy, a young player will often need guidance to make sure they stay on track.
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comment by Number 8ecoglou (U9729)
posted 8 minutes ago
the thing with Dele (away from this interview) is that I can hand on heart say that I judged him purely on his playing time with us and thereafter, rather than anything else in his personal life
I say that as I very rarely read anything about players, rarely read interviews, rarely watch match analysis or pre and post match press conferences, because I find it all very scripted, robotic and inauthentic. I just don't find much value in them
So when I was judging him on performances alone, I really resented having him in the squad towards the end. In fact, I'm pretty certain I remember saying to a Man Utd supporting mate of mine, that I would've sold him during the season we got to the CL final, as i felt he was spiraling downwards with his performances.
Having said that, in hindsight, perhaps judging them on playing alone isnt't maybe the right thing to do as you could argue that it dehumanises players and makes you forget that they are people with their own lives, stresses and worries etc that have a huge impact on their performances on the pitch.
Dele speaking openly about his troubles and getting in there before the gutter press can release all their fanatical versions of the events is perfect as it's taken away all of their power, and given Dele all the support and acceptance he clearly needs after what he's been through
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As fans, we haven't got time to worry about footballer's personnel lives because we all have stuff going on.
I wouldn't worry too much about critising a player's performance. In the same way if someone has a great game they are loved like a God.
Some players react differently to criticism and thrive on it. Some go into a shell even more. It's the nature of the game.
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yeah I suppose you could argue that, but for example, away from Dele, think of a foreign player who maybe doesn't speak a word of English, has no family or friends when they come over here, and within a couple of games, are having fans and pundits criticising their performances and abilities.
I can imagine it's very isolating and almost feels like it's very personal.
The argument that is levelled at them is that they're paid very handsomly for the luxury of having an unconventional job that is classed by many as fun and a hobby, but that doesn't take away from the fact that they're under this immense pressure from the get go
Imagine having a boat load of money, with no one to enjoy it with, nothing to spend it on, and still having all these pressures on your shoulders.
At that point, you then don't really know how to cope with your issues because you're told that you can't have these problems, because you're rich, get on with it, or in your example, when things are going well, you're a god.
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They are all so young as well.
Feck knows what i would have done aged 23 if i was a millionaire footballer subjected to love or hate every time I step on to the pitch and confronted with the same on social media. It is no wonder some fail to live up to expectations - whether its pressure or loss of focus or apathy, a young player will often need guidance to make sure they stay on track.
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there is plenty of jobs out there that require you to be mentally strong. And just like all those other jobs if you cant handle the mental pressure that you need to then you should look at a different line of work. What we see now is the money is so good that players are willing to either put up with the criticism or ignore it and some cant deal with it.
If I cannot handle working through nights or late nights or having an irregular sleep patterns I dont apply for a job doing night shift..... I dont apply for the job and get them to change it too day shift to suit me for eg.
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the thing with Dele (away from this interview) is that I can hand on heart say that I judged him purely on his playing time with us and thereafter, rather than anything else in his personal life
I say that as I very rarely read anything about players, rarely read interviews, rarely watch match analysis or pre and post match press conferences, because I find it all very scripted, robotic and inauthentic. I just don't find much value in them
So when I was judging him on performances alone, I really resented having him in the squad towards the end. In fact, I'm pretty certain I remember saying to a Man Utd supporting mate of mine, that I would've sold him during the season we got to the CL final, as i felt he was spiraling downwards with his performances.
Having said that, in hindsight, perhaps judging them on playing alone isnt't maybe the right thing to do as you could argue that it dehumanises players and makes you forget that they are people with their own lives, stresses and worries etc that have a huge impact on their performances on the pitch.
Dele speaking openly about his troubles and getting in there before the gutter press can release all their fanatical versions of the events is perfect as it's taken away all of their power, and given Dele all the support and acceptance he clearly needs after what he's been through
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As fans, we haven't got time to worry about footballer's personnel lives because we all have stuff going on.
I wouldn't worry too much about critising a player's performance. In the same way if someone has a great game they are loved like a God.
Some players react differently to criticism and thrive on it. Some go into a shell even more. It's the nature of the game.
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yeah I suppose you could argue that, but for example, away from Dele, think of a foreign player who maybe doesn't speak a word of English, has no family or friends when they come over here, and within a couple of games, are having fans and pundits criticising their performances and abilities.
I can imagine it's very isolating and almost feels like it's very personal.
The argument that is levelled at them is that they're paid very handsomly for the luxury of having an unconventional job that is classed by many as fun and a hobby, but that doesn't take away from the fact that they're under this immense pressure from the get go
Imagine having a boat load of money, with no one to enjoy it with, nothing to spend it on, and still having all these pressures on your shoulders.
At that point, you then don't really know how to cope with your issues because you're told that you can't have these problems, because you're rich, get on with it, or in your example, when things are going well, you're a god.
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They are all so young as well.
Feck knows what i would have done aged 23 if i was a millionaire footballer subjected to love or hate every time I step on to the pitch and confronted with the same on social media. It is no wonder some fail to live up to expectations - whether its pressure or loss of focus or apathy, a young player will often need guidance to make sure they stay on track.
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there is plenty of jobs out there that require you to be mentally strong. And just like all those other jobs if you cant handle the mental pressure that you need to then you should look at a different line of work. What we see now is the money is so good that players are willing to either put up with the criticism or ignore it and some cant deal with it.
If I cannot handle working through nights or late nights or having an irregular sleep patterns I dont apply for a job doing night shift..... I dont apply for the job and get them to change it too day shift to suit me for eg.
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I don’t think you “apply” to become an England International.
Just watching the interview now, he wasn’t quite ready to talk but the b*stard tabloids were sniffing around.
Where were Tottenham backroom staff in all of this,he came from a troubled background,was a young and talented fotballer,at a big club with big expectations of him,they had a duty of care for him which they failed to deliver,and when his form dropped off the proverbial cliff they got rid of him pronto.
Shame on you Spurs.
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 1 hour, 5 minutes ago
Just watching the interview now, he wasn’t quite ready to talk but the b*stard tabloids were sniffing around.
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It doesn't seem like a bad time to do so, but he does sound a little bit naïve in his insistence on saying it's all in the past now.
I mean, yeah, it's great that he feels all that positivity right now, but I'd have thought he might've had someone telling him not to think it's all plain sailing from now on.
See Talksport deleted a video of that cuum rag Rory Jennings talking about Dele two days before the interview came out?
The worst pundit in football.
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comment by ●Billy The Spur● LEVY OUT- ENIC OUT! (U3924)
posted 11 minutes ago
I said all along the start of Dele`s problems were due to the departure of Poch and the arrival of Mourinho
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And judging by the what Dele said in the interview you are still wrong.
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He literally said the departure of Poch hit him hard, you don`t need to be a rocket scientist to work out the difference in man management styles between Poch & Mourinho contributed to Dele`s problems.
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Watch it again in FULL and revise your opinion. Apology accepted.
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I`ve watched it full. Apology accepted.
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Then you struggle to see the whole picture. Instead you hang on to you weak agenda and try to pin it on Jose lol.
You're a good poster Billy but sometimes you are a clown.
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If you read what I said, instead of jumping all over the mere mention of Mourinho, I said Poch leaving and Mourinho arriving CONTRIBUTED to Dele`s problems, I did not pin it all on Mourinho at all.
Dele hinted that Poch leaving hit him hard, and Mourinho is not the kind of man manager to handle problems like what Dele had, Dele even says in the interview Poch was brilliant for him.
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First time you have used the word "Contributed"
This is what you said
"I said all along the start of Dele`s problems were due to the departure of Poch and the arrival of Mourinho" (It's above btw, are you on this planet?)
Like a typical keyboard psychiatrist and warrior, you have this delusional theory that Jose was the root cause of Dele's issues and used the soundbite to fuel you agenda.
Give it up Billy and concentrate on Penuited and LiVARpool. Oh and making money everytime Spurs lose (which I respect BTW).
posted on 13/7/23
comment by The Mighty Tottenham Hotspur. (U7858)
posted 2 seconds ago
comment by Number 8ecoglou (U9729)
posted 2 minutes ago
the thing with Dele (away from this interview) is that I can hand on heart say that I judged him purely on his playing time with us and thereafter, rather than anything else in his personal life
I say that as I very rarely read anything about players, rarely read interviews, rarely watch match analysis or pre and post match press conferences, because I find it all very scripted, robotic and inauthentic. I just don't find much value in them
So when I was judging him on performances alone, I really resented having him in the squad towards the end. In fact, I'm pretty certain I remember saying to a Man Utd supporting mate of mine, that I would've sold him during the season we got to the CL final, as i felt he was spiraling downwards with his performances.
Having said that, in hindsight, perhaps judging them on playing alone isnt't maybe the right thing to do as you could argue that it dehumanises players and makes you forget that they are people with their own lives, stresses and worries etc that have a huge impact on their performances on the pitch.
Dele speaking openly about his troubles and getting in there before the gutter press can release all their fanatical versions of the events is perfect as it's taken away all of their power, and given Dele all the support and acceptance he clearly needs after what he's been through
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posted on 13/7/23
Only just seen this, hopefully he can get to a good place and finish his football career strongly
posted on 13/7/23
comment by Number 8ecoglou (U9729)
posted 8 minutes ago
the thing with Dele (away from this interview) is that I can hand on heart say that I judged him purely on his playing time with us and thereafter, rather than anything else in his personal life
I say that as I very rarely read anything about players, rarely read interviews, rarely watch match analysis or pre and post match press conferences, because I find it all very scripted, robotic and inauthentic. I just don't find much value in them
So when I was judging him on performances alone, I really resented having him in the squad towards the end. In fact, I'm pretty certain I remember saying to a Man Utd supporting mate of mine, that I would've sold him during the season we got to the CL final, as i felt he was spiraling downwards with his performances.
Having said that, in hindsight, perhaps judging them on playing alone isnt't maybe the right thing to do as you could argue that it dehumanises players and makes you forget that they are people with their own lives, stresses and worries etc that have a huge impact on their performances on the pitch.
Dele speaking openly about his troubles and getting in there before the gutter press can release all their fanatical versions of the events is perfect as it's taken away all of their power, and given Dele all the support and acceptance he clearly needs after what he's been through
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As fans, we haven't got time to worry about footballer's personnel lives because we all have stuff going on.
I wouldn't worry too much about critising a player's performance. In the same way if someone has a great game they are loved like a God.
Some players react differently to criticism and thrive on it. Some go into a shell even more. It's the nature of the game.
posted on 13/7/23
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posted on 13/7/23
comment by LukaBrasi Postecoglou on the lefthand side (U22178)
posted 24 minutes ago
comment by ●Billy The Spur● LEVY OUT- ENIC OUT! (U3924)
posted 6 seconds ago
comment by LukaBrasi Postecoglou on the lefthand side (U22178)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by ●Billy The Spur● LEVY OUT- ENIC OUT! (U3924)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by LukaBrasi Postecoglou on the lefthand side (U22178)
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comment by ●Billy The Spur● LEVY OUT- ENIC OUT! (U3924)
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comment by LukaBrasi Postecoglou on the lefthand side (U22178)
posted 30 minutes ago
comment by ●Billy The Spur● LEVY OUT- ENIC OUT! (U3924)
posted 11 minutes ago
I said all along the start of Dele`s problems were due to the departure of Poch and the arrival of Mourinho
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And judging by the what Dele said in the interview you are still wrong.
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He literally said the departure of Poch hit him hard, you don`t need to be a rocket scientist to work out the difference in man management styles between Poch & Mourinho contributed to Dele`s problems.
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Watch it again in FULL and revise your opinion. Apology accepted.
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I`ve watched it full. Apology accepted.
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Then you struggle to see the whole picture. Instead you hang on to you weak agenda and try to pin it on Jose lol.
You're a good poster Billy but sometimes you are a clown.
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If you read what I said, instead of jumping all over the mere mention of Mourinho, I said Poch leaving and Mourinho arriving CONTRIBUTED to Dele`s problems, I did not pin it all on Mourinho at all.
Dele hinted that Poch leaving hit him hard, and Mourinho is not the kind of man manager to handle problems like what Dele had, Dele even says in the interview Poch was brilliant for him.
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First time you have used the word "Contributed"
This is what you said
"I said all along the start of Dele`s problems were due to the departure of Poch and the arrival of Mourinho" (It's above btw, are you on this planet?)
Like a typical keyboard psychiatrist and warrior, you have this delusional theory that Jose was the root cause of Dele's issues and used the soundbite to fuel you agenda.
Give it up Billy and concentrate on Penuited and LiVARpool. Oh and making money everytime Spurs lose (which I respect BTW).
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He literally said the departure of Poch hit him hard, you don`t need to be a rocket scientist to work out the difference in man management styles between Poch & Mourinho contributed to Dele`s problems.
The above is what I wrote you facking mug. Can you not read, obviously not. Look pal, you are a facking plank and contribute fack all to this site apart from racism. Why don`t you do us all a favour and close your account
posted on 13/7/23
comment by ●Billy The Spur● LEVY OUT- ENIC OUT! (U3924)
posted 1 hour, 1 minute ago
comment by LukaBrasi Postecoglou on the lefthand side (U22178)
posted 30 minutes ago
comment by ●Billy The Spur● LEVY OUT- ENIC OUT! (U3924)
posted 11 minutes ago
I said all along the start of Dele`s problems were due to the departure of Poch and the arrival of Mourinho
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And judging by the what Dele said in the interview you are still wrong.
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He literally said the departure of Poch hit him hard, you don`t need to be a rocket scientist to work out the difference in man management styles between Poch & Mourinho contributed to Dele`s problems.
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There you go, learn to read
posted on 13/7/23
Doubling down are we Billy. Classic modern day way mentalility.
posted on 13/7/23
Look pal, you are a facking plank and contribute fack all to this site apart from racism. Why don`t you do us all a favour and close your account
This made 🤣🤣🤣
posted on 13/7/23
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posted on 13/7/23
Billy come on man, you're not helping yourself here....
posted on 13/7/23
comment by PhilspursFGR (U3278)
posted 7 minutes ago
Billy come on man, you're not helping yourself here....
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Just saying it how it is pal
posted on 13/7/23
Poor bloke was molested as a child by a friend of he’s mother , the full video is on YouTube....
Crikey!
posted on 13/7/23
comment by LukaBrasi Postecoglou on the lefthand side (U22178)
posted 1 hour, 40 minutes ago
comment by Number 8ecoglou (U9729)
posted 8 minutes ago
the thing with Dele (away from this interview) is that I can hand on heart say that I judged him purely on his playing time with us and thereafter, rather than anything else in his personal life
I say that as I very rarely read anything about players, rarely read interviews, rarely watch match analysis or pre and post match press conferences, because I find it all very scripted, robotic and inauthentic. I just don't find much value in them
So when I was judging him on performances alone, I really resented having him in the squad towards the end. In fact, I'm pretty certain I remember saying to a Man Utd supporting mate of mine, that I would've sold him during the season we got to the CL final, as i felt he was spiraling downwards with his performances.
Having said that, in hindsight, perhaps judging them on playing alone isnt't maybe the right thing to do as you could argue that it dehumanises players and makes you forget that they are people with their own lives, stresses and worries etc that have a huge impact on their performances on the pitch.
Dele speaking openly about his troubles and getting in there before the gutter press can release all their fanatical versions of the events is perfect as it's taken away all of their power, and given Dele all the support and acceptance he clearly needs after what he's been through
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As fans, we haven't got time to worry about footballer's personnel lives because we all have stuff going on.
I wouldn't worry too much about critising a player's performance. In the same way if someone has a great game they are loved like a God.
Some players react differently to criticism and thrive on it. Some go into a shell even more. It's the nature of the game.
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As Spurs fans, one of our greatest in modern times has been Gazza. Someone who had his own issues but totally compounded by the intense media scrutiny in an era before social media.
I cannot image the difficulties Gazza would have now if he was a young footballer and in the case of Alli it just goes to show the social media is a double edged sword. A young player who embraced it but has suffered through the intense pressure and scrutiny, which have no doubt exacerbated his own personal issues.
I am one on here who always objects to the way people polarise their views - People's response if often one of two extremes, with no mitigation allowed. This reflects social media as a whole where people gravitate to these extreme positions because they have impact and no one wants to hear or read any considered middle ground view - it doesnt get enough likes!
I would urge football fans and people in general to be more considered in how they respond to others, including footballers and other sportsmen and people in the public eye, because things are rarely as simple they appear and we are all just human beings with imperfections and flaws.
posted on 13/7/23
comment by ●Billy The Spur● LEVY OUT- ENIC OUT! (U3924)
posted 56 minutes ago
comment by PhilspursFGR (U3278)
posted 7 minutes ago
Billy come on man, you're not helping yourself here....
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Just saying it how it is pal
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but you're not, your own posts have contradicted themselves in this article. You said his problems started due to the departure of Poch and the arrival of Mourinho. That's just demonstrably not the case. I agree with you that it clearly contributed to his struggles, but it's fine for you to accept that you misspoke by saying that's where it started.
posted on 13/7/23
To claim it all started with Jose is just laughable to be honest. It was alway there and was always going to come to the surface. Maybe you could argue that with an arm around the shoulder manager, he may have felt more peace and love but to lump this on Jose is nuts. He came through the tough lower leagues. Footballers in this country have to come through a lot of hard knocks to make it, Dele included. There's no way that Jose's confrontational style is to blame. I guess you could say that he lost a father figure in Poch and inherited a colder figure but that trauma was always there.
Really hope this has helped him. One thing is for sure, his bravery in sharing his story will inspire so many children and adults to do the same. I really hope he finds his way back to the top of the game again although I have my doubts. Sharing will help but that trauma is ingrained. I can't begin to imagine what he's going through right now. One thing is for sure, he'll feel a lot better for having shared it and got it off his chest but in a way I don't think he'll want too much attention for it. he won't want this to define him. I'm sure he just wants to get on with playing the game he loves.
posted on 13/7/23
Leave it Philspurs, when he lost his head, he knew he was wrong.
posted on 13/7/23
comment by LukaBrasi Postecoglou on the lefthand side (U22178)
posted 10 minutes ago
Leave it Philspurs, when he lost his head, he knew he was wrong.
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yeah I sense I'm fighting a losing battle.
posted on 13/7/23
comment by Number 8ecoglou (U9729)
posted 2 hours, 11 minutes ago
comment by LukaBrasi Postecoglou on the lefthand side (U22178)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Number 8ecoglou (U9729)
posted 8 minutes ago
the thing with Dele (away from this interview) is that I can hand on heart say that I judged him purely on his playing time with us and thereafter, rather than anything else in his personal life
I say that as I very rarely read anything about players, rarely read interviews, rarely watch match analysis or pre and post match press conferences, because I find it all very scripted, robotic and inauthentic. I just don't find much value in them
So when I was judging him on performances alone, I really resented having him in the squad towards the end. In fact, I'm pretty certain I remember saying to a Man Utd supporting mate of mine, that I would've sold him during the season we got to the CL final, as i felt he was spiraling downwards with his performances.
Having said that, in hindsight, perhaps judging them on playing alone isnt't maybe the right thing to do as you could argue that it dehumanises players and makes you forget that they are people with their own lives, stresses and worries etc that have a huge impact on their performances on the pitch.
Dele speaking openly about his troubles and getting in there before the gutter press can release all their fanatical versions of the events is perfect as it's taken away all of their power, and given Dele all the support and acceptance he clearly needs after what he's been through
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As fans, we haven't got time to worry about footballer's personnel lives because we all have stuff going on.
I wouldn't worry too much about critising a player's performance. In the same way if someone has a great game they are loved like a God.
Some players react differently to criticism and thrive on it. Some go into a shell even more. It's the nature of the game.
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yeah I suppose you could argue that, but for example, away from Dele, think of a foreign player who maybe doesn't speak a word of English, has no family or friends when they come over here, and within a couple of games, are having fans and pundits criticising their performances and abilities.
I can imagine it's very isolating and almost feels like it's very personal.
The argument that is levelled at them is that they're paid very handsomly for the luxury of having an unconventional job that is classed by many as fun and a hobby, but that doesn't take away from the fact that they're under this immense pressure from the get go
Imagine having a boat load of money, with no one to enjoy it with, nothing to spend it on, and still having all these pressures on your shoulders.
At that point, you then don't really know how to cope with your issues because you're told that you can't have these problems, because you're rich, get on with it, or in your example, when things are going well, you're a god.
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They are all so young as well.
Feck knows what i would have done aged 23 if i was a millionaire footballer subjected to love or hate every time I step on to the pitch and confronted with the same on social media. It is no wonder some fail to live up to expectations - whether its pressure or loss of focus or apathy, a young player will often need guidance to make sure they stay on track.
posted on 13/7/23
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Number 8ecoglou (U9729)
posted 2 hours, 11 minutes ago
comment by LukaBrasi Postecoglou on the lefthand side (U22178)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Number 8ecoglou (U9729)
posted 8 minutes ago
the thing with Dele (away from this interview) is that I can hand on heart say that I judged him purely on his playing time with us and thereafter, rather than anything else in his personal life
I say that as I very rarely read anything about players, rarely read interviews, rarely watch match analysis or pre and post match press conferences, because I find it all very scripted, robotic and inauthentic. I just don't find much value in them
So when I was judging him on performances alone, I really resented having him in the squad towards the end. In fact, I'm pretty certain I remember saying to a Man Utd supporting mate of mine, that I would've sold him during the season we got to the CL final, as i felt he was spiraling downwards with his performances.
Having said that, in hindsight, perhaps judging them on playing alone isnt't maybe the right thing to do as you could argue that it dehumanises players and makes you forget that they are people with their own lives, stresses and worries etc that have a huge impact on their performances on the pitch.
Dele speaking openly about his troubles and getting in there before the gutter press can release all their fanatical versions of the events is perfect as it's taken away all of their power, and given Dele all the support and acceptance he clearly needs after what he's been through
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As fans, we haven't got time to worry about footballer's personnel lives because we all have stuff going on.
I wouldn't worry too much about critising a player's performance. In the same way if someone has a great game they are loved like a God.
Some players react differently to criticism and thrive on it. Some go into a shell even more. It's the nature of the game.
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yeah I suppose you could argue that, but for example, away from Dele, think of a foreign player who maybe doesn't speak a word of English, has no family or friends when they come over here, and within a couple of games, are having fans and pundits criticising their performances and abilities.
I can imagine it's very isolating and almost feels like it's very personal.
The argument that is levelled at them is that they're paid very handsomly for the luxury of having an unconventional job that is classed by many as fun and a hobby, but that doesn't take away from the fact that they're under this immense pressure from the get go
Imagine having a boat load of money, with no one to enjoy it with, nothing to spend it on, and still having all these pressures on your shoulders.
At that point, you then don't really know how to cope with your issues because you're told that you can't have these problems, because you're rich, get on with it, or in your example, when things are going well, you're a god.
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They are all so young as well.
Feck knows what i would have done aged 23 if i was a millionaire footballer subjected to love or hate every time I step on to the pitch and confronted with the same on social media. It is no wonder some fail to live up to expectations - whether its pressure or loss of focus or apathy, a young player will often need guidance to make sure they stay on track.
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there is plenty of jobs out there that require you to be mentally strong. And just like all those other jobs if you cant handle the mental pressure that you need to then you should look at a different line of work. What we see now is the money is so good that players are willing to either put up with the criticism or ignore it and some cant deal with it.
If I cannot handle working through nights or late nights or having an irregular sleep patterns I dont apply for a job doing night shift..... I dont apply for the job and get them to change it too day shift to suit me for eg.
posted on 13/7/23
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 3 hours, 20 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Number 8ecoglou (U9729)
posted 2 hours, 11 minutes ago
comment by LukaBrasi Postecoglou on the lefthand side (U22178)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Number 8ecoglou (U9729)
posted 8 minutes ago
the thing with Dele (away from this interview) is that I can hand on heart say that I judged him purely on his playing time with us and thereafter, rather than anything else in his personal life
I say that as I very rarely read anything about players, rarely read interviews, rarely watch match analysis or pre and post match press conferences, because I find it all very scripted, robotic and inauthentic. I just don't find much value in them
So when I was judging him on performances alone, I really resented having him in the squad towards the end. In fact, I'm pretty certain I remember saying to a Man Utd supporting mate of mine, that I would've sold him during the season we got to the CL final, as i felt he was spiraling downwards with his performances.
Having said that, in hindsight, perhaps judging them on playing alone isnt't maybe the right thing to do as you could argue that it dehumanises players and makes you forget that they are people with their own lives, stresses and worries etc that have a huge impact on their performances on the pitch.
Dele speaking openly about his troubles and getting in there before the gutter press can release all their fanatical versions of the events is perfect as it's taken away all of their power, and given Dele all the support and acceptance he clearly needs after what he's been through
----------------------------------------------------------------------
As fans, we haven't got time to worry about footballer's personnel lives because we all have stuff going on.
I wouldn't worry too much about critising a player's performance. In the same way if someone has a great game they are loved like a God.
Some players react differently to criticism and thrive on it. Some go into a shell even more. It's the nature of the game.
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yeah I suppose you could argue that, but for example, away from Dele, think of a foreign player who maybe doesn't speak a word of English, has no family or friends when they come over here, and within a couple of games, are having fans and pundits criticising their performances and abilities.
I can imagine it's very isolating and almost feels like it's very personal.
The argument that is levelled at them is that they're paid very handsomly for the luxury of having an unconventional job that is classed by many as fun and a hobby, but that doesn't take away from the fact that they're under this immense pressure from the get go
Imagine having a boat load of money, with no one to enjoy it with, nothing to spend it on, and still having all these pressures on your shoulders.
At that point, you then don't really know how to cope with your issues because you're told that you can't have these problems, because you're rich, get on with it, or in your example, when things are going well, you're a god.
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They are all so young as well.
Feck knows what i would have done aged 23 if i was a millionaire footballer subjected to love or hate every time I step on to the pitch and confronted with the same on social media. It is no wonder some fail to live up to expectations - whether its pressure or loss of focus or apathy, a young player will often need guidance to make sure they stay on track.
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there is plenty of jobs out there that require you to be mentally strong. And just like all those other jobs if you cant handle the mental pressure that you need to then you should look at a different line of work. What we see now is the money is so good that players are willing to either put up with the criticism or ignore it and some cant deal with it.
If I cannot handle working through nights or late nights or having an irregular sleep patterns I dont apply for a job doing night shift..... I dont apply for the job and get them to change it too day shift to suit me for eg.
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I don’t think you “apply” to become an England International.
posted on 13/7/23
Just watching the interview now, he wasn’t quite ready to talk but the b*stard tabloids were sniffing around.
posted on 13/7/23
Where were Tottenham backroom staff in all of this,he came from a troubled background,was a young and talented fotballer,at a big club with big expectations of him,they had a duty of care for him which they failed to deliver,and when his form dropped off the proverbial cliff they got rid of him pronto.
Shame on you Spurs.
posted on 13/7/23
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 1 hour, 5 minutes ago
Just watching the interview now, he wasn’t quite ready to talk but the b*stard tabloids were sniffing around.
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It doesn't seem like a bad time to do so, but he does sound a little bit naïve in his insistence on saying it's all in the past now.
I mean, yeah, it's great that he feels all that positivity right now, but I'd have thought he might've had someone telling him not to think it's all plain sailing from now on.
posted on 14/7/23
See Talksport deleted a video of that cuum rag Rory Jennings talking about Dele two days before the interview came out?
The worst pundit in football.
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