I would like to think Spence will overtake Emerson as first choice RB. Shame Spence is injured but hopefully he can stake a claim to the RB spot.

I don't rate Porro at RB. He is a liability as you said. He should be Kulu's back up. In all honesty his signing was a waste of time and the money we soent on him should have gone to a new CB.

Did anyone spot Emerson tucking into the midfield like John Stones does for Man City? This is why Spence would be better as he will offer something going forward and has the speed to make a recovery challenge.

Depends ... Ange at celtic liked his fullback to come inside and fill the cm space to free them midfielders up.

If he is looking to do the same thing, he will be looking for an athletic FB who is composed on the ball more than the typical almost winger like FB who likes to bomb forward on the outside and get to the byline.

comment by LukaBrasi Postecoglou on the lefthand side (U22178)
posted 3 minutes ago
I would like to think Spence will overtake Emerson as first choice RB. Shame Spence is injured but hopefully he can stake a claim to the RB spot.

I don't rate Porro at RB. He is a liability as you said. He should be Kulu's back up. In all honesty his signing was a waste of time and the money we soent on him should have gone to a new CB.

Did anyone spot Emerson tucking into the midfield like John Stones does for Man City? This is why Spence would be better as he will offer something going forward and has the speed to make a recovery challenge.
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Agree Re Porro.... not necessarily a bad player, just a shocking one dimensional signing, only capable playing in a formation that won't be seen again in WHL for years..... Hopefully !!!

From what I've read about how Ange played it at Celtic it does sound like the FBs do need to be decent footballers/ good athletes.... I suspect Spense & Udogie will be best suited to the way he wants to play...... Cannot see any future at Spurs for the likes of Sess, Reggie and possibly Porro... they are a too much of a risk/make us too vulnerable

Porro is one of the most bonkers signings in years.

Hopeless at full back, probably not dynamic enough to be a winger but you he'll cause less pain playing there.

Forced to buy him when it was clear after 6 months he was a bombscare

Spence would make your defence weaker than it already is.

If Emerson is the alternative, that is. Hard for him to be a worse defender than Porro.

comment by Kobbie The King Mainoo (U10026)
posted 3 minutes ago
If Emerson is the alternative, that is. Hard for him to be a worse defender than Porro.
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Royal is much improved as a defender after getting up speed in the PL.. sadly he's terrible going forward. No composure on the ball

Yeah but Spence can’t defend and is worse on the ball than Porro. So what would be the benefit? Especially given his style involves hard running down the wing, not tucking into midfield as would appear to be the preference of the new coach.

porro will be good at RB

some defensively horrible fullbacks have played for teams that have picked up a lot of points

I reckon Porro could be a surprise this year playing as a wide attacker down the right, Kulusevski was abysmal last season and Porro could well make that place his own. He is quick, knows where the goal is and has great delivery.

comment by Christoglou (U20930)
posted 10 minutes ago
porro will be good at RB

some defensively horrible fullbacks have played for teams that have picked up a lot of points
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Apart from Trent can you name others? At least with TAA he is capable of an assist or goal. Porro is no where near that level yet. Not sure if he has the scope to improve the defensive side of his game either.

OP

Spence has not a hope in hell of getting a starting berth. He is obviously not very good, same as Rodon and Sessignon. All three need to move on.

comment by Diamondlights (U20501)
posted 33 minutes ago
From what I've read about how Ange played it at Celtic it does sound like the FBs do need to be decent footballers/ good athletes.... I suspect Spense & Udogie will be best suited to the way he wants to play...... Cannot see any future at Spurs for the likes of Sess, Reggie and possibly Porro... they are a too much of a risk/make us too vulnerable
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Porro I think will be fine, but not as a full back. Kulu is hardly pulling up trees, so could definitely take his place in front of Emerson.

comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
posted 56 seconds ago
OP

Spence has not a hope in hell of getting a starting berth. He is obviously not very good, same as Rodon and Sessignon. All three need to move on.
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The village idiot is here 🥳

comment by Kobbie The King Mainoo (U10026)
posted 25 minutes ago
If Emerson is the alternative, that is. Hard for him to be a worse defender than Porro.
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Emerson is a very decent defender.

Looks like former cult members of Ndombele are now targeting Porro as their next victim lol

How have we got so many crap full/wing backs. Crazy

comment by LukaBrasi Postecoglou on the lefthand side (U22178)
posted 24 seconds ago
comment by Christoglou (U20930)
posted 10 minutes ago
porro will be good at RB

some defensively horrible fullbacks have played for teams that have picked up a lot of points
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Apart from Trent can you name others? At least with TAA he is capable of an assist or goal. Porro is no where near that level yet. Not sure if he has the scope to improve the defensive side of his game either.
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Zinchenko, Cancelo. Obviously Pep adopted a new approach last season with 4 CBs that everyone is excited about, and maybe you can't have any weaknesses anywhere to win the treble, but we're not trying to do that right now - and we've seen that you can be an 80+ point side with a defensive liability in your backline if they're adding enough in possession.

It's a trade-off in terms of in possession value added and out of possession value lost, porro's technical ability means it's worth seeing if he can manage to make up for his defensive frailty through what he adds on the ball.

comment by LukaBrasi Postecoglou on the lefthand side (U22178)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Christoglou (U20930)
posted 10 minutes ago
porro will be good at RB

some defensively horrible fullbacks have played for teams that have picked up a lot of points
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Apart from Trent can you name others? At least with TAA he is capable of an assist or goal. Porro is no where near that level yet. Not sure if he has the scope to improve the defensive side of his game either.
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He’s probably thinking of Glenn Johnson. But Liverpool did score over 100 goals that year. And even he was a much better defender than Porro.

comment by LukaBrasi Postecoglou on the lefthand side (U22178)
posted 3 minutes ago
Looks like former cult members of Ndombele are now targeting Porro as their next victim lol
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comment by Christoglou (U20930)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by LukaBrasi Postecoglou on the lefthand side (U22178)
posted 24 seconds ago
comment by Christoglou (U20930)
posted 10 minutes ago
porro will be good at RB

some defensively horrible fullbacks have played for teams that have picked up a lot of points
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Apart from Trent can you name others? At least with TAA he is capable of an assist or goal. Porro is no where near that level yet. Not sure if he has the scope to improve the defensive side of his game either.
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Zinchenko, Cancelo. Obviously Pep adopted a new approach last season with 4 CBs that everyone is excited about, and maybe you can't have any weaknesses anywhere to win the treble, but we're not trying to do that right now - and we've seen that you can be an 80+ point side with a defensive liability in your backline if they're adding enough in possession.

It's a trade-off in terms of in possession value added and out of possession value lost, porro's technical ability means it's worth seeing if he can manage to make up for his defensive frailty through what he adds on the ball.
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Pretty ironic that Pep has adopted 4 CBs. Houllier at Liverpool did the same thing without one of them tucking into midfield.

Interesting you mention the two players he has moved on. I don't buy that Porro is the man we are looking for at RB.

He would make a good impact sub and deputy for Kulu imo. But I cannot see him starting much. If he does he will be targeted and Ange will drop him eventually.

comment by Christoglou (U20930)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by LukaBrasi Postecoglou on the lefthand side (U22178)
posted 24 seconds ago
comment by Christoglou (U20930)
posted 10 minutes ago
porro will be good at RB

some defensively horrible fullbacks have played for teams that have picked up a lot of points
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Apart from Trent can you name others? At least with TAA he is capable of an assist or goal. Porro is no where near that level yet. Not sure if he has the scope to improve the defensive side of his game either.
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Zinchenko, Cancelo. Obviously Pep adopted a new approach last season with 4 CBs that everyone is excited about, and maybe you can't have any weaknesses anywhere to win the treble, but we're not trying to do that right now - and we've seen that you can be an 80+ point side with a defensive liability in your backline if they're adding enough in possession.

It's a trade-off in terms of in possession value added and out of possession value lost, porro's technical ability means it's worth seeing if he can manage to make up for his defensive frailty through what he adds on the ball.
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they dont necessarily need to have shown that trait before. Aty Celtic he transformed one of their LB who was struggling there. Was you bog standard FB, who was known for getting forward and trying to get the ball in the box. and with the fans was prob no1 choice to be replaced in the team.

Ange changed his game and made him inverted and he was close to winning player of the year at Celtic. So might not be such an obvious choice

Who was the player?

I wonder if Ange could turn Porro into an inverted full back?

he was inverting yesterday