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comment by rosso says the time has come to unlock the unl... (U17054)
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Levy might be a lot of things, but he isn’t stupid. And as such, he doesn’t need anyone telling him that if Kane won’t sign this summer he has to be sold.
Offers are clearly forthcoming, and if the options are cash in for the best part of £100m now or risk losing him on a free next summer, it’s a no brainer.
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I disagree. I think we would go into the last year of his contract.
If no one is offering more than £70m then the "loss" is not that catastrophic, we dont need to sell for FFP reasons. Plenty of clubs have let their assets run down their contract. Even if we sold, who can we realistically get in...it would only be average pro's or potential. All this talk of Vlahovic etc is nonesense, he'd not come to us right now and nor would anyone of similar quality.
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With multiple giant clubs interested, you’re looking at closer to £100m, surely.
Even if not, you’re left with two choices:
- Lose Kane this summer but rake in £70m to spend on a replacement/spend elsewhere
- Lose Kane next summer for nothing and still have to replace him.
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comment by rosso says the time has come to unlock the unl... (U17054)
posted 16 minutes ago
Levy might be a lot of things, but he isn’t stupid. And as such, he doesn’t need anyone telling him that if Kane won’t sign this summer he has to be sold.
Offers are clearly forthcoming, and if the options are cash in for the best part of £100m now or risk losing him on a free next summer, it’s a no brainer.
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I disagree. I think we would go into the last year of his contract.
If no one is offering more than £70m then the "loss" is not that catastrophic, we dont need to sell for FFP reasons. Plenty of clubs have let their assets run down their contract. Even if we sold, who can we realistically get in...it would only be average pro's or potential. All this talk of Vlahovic etc is nonesense, he'd not come to us right now and nor would anyone of similar quality.
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Regardless of whether you think he was the right signing, Do you think Richie was brought in last summer as a possible replacement for Kane, in the event he wouldn't commit to Spurs long term and Enic wasn't willing to lose him for nothing ?
Granted, it's hard to figure us out coz there's been so much upheaval with different managers/ formations.
Despite Sandy's ridiculous comment....... Kane is sitting there with 4 aces...... He cannot be allowed to hold the club to ransom. A 5 year deal that pays Kane approx 130mln quid is good business for Spurs. You know what you are gonna get and it would cost us more to try and replace him. If he wont sign the new deal, Take the money and move in a different direction.
We have to give Ange time and support.... Giving him another year of Harry Kane speculation is just a pain in the ar5e and delays the desperately needed rebuild.
It is a joke because Levy says he won't sell to a rival but I can see him selling to United if they put the money up.
Given the direct choice between United and Bayern I have no doubt Kane would go to Manchester. Everyone knows that.
So big man Levy is nothing but an errand boy when uncle Joe actually calls the shots.
It is a joke because the club is faffing about with Kane saga and we still have Sanchez and Dier as first choice defenders with just over 2 weeks left before the season starts.
Where are the the 2 new CB we badly need.
It's always a joke with Spurs and fans can't see that.
We are all arguing with each other.
Classic divide and conquer by the club.
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posted 16 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by rosso says the time has come to unlock the unl... (U17054)
posted 16 minutes ago
Levy might be a lot of things, but he isn’t stupid. And as such, he doesn’t need anyone telling him that if Kane won’t sign this summer he has to be sold.
Offers are clearly forthcoming, and if the options are cash in for the best part of £100m now or risk losing him on a free next summer, it’s a no brainer.
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I disagree. I think we would go into the last year of his contract.
If no one is offering more than £70m then the "loss" is not that catastrophic, we dont need to sell for FFP reasons. Plenty of clubs have let their assets run down their contract. Even if we sold, who can we realistically get in...it would only be average pro's or potential. All this talk of Vlahovic etc is nonesense, he'd not come to us right now and nor would anyone of similar quality.
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Regardless of whether you think he was the right signing, Do you think Richie was brought in last summer as a possible replacement for Kane, in the event he wouldn't commit to Spurs long term and Enic wasn't willing to lose him for nothing ?
Granted, it's hard to figure us out coz there's been so much upheaval with different managers/ formations.
Despite Sandy's ridiculous comment....... Kane is sitting there with 4 aces...... He cannot be allowed to hold the club to ransom. A 5 year deal that pays Kane approx 130mln quid is good business for Spurs. You know what you are gonna get and it would cost us more to try and replace him. If he wont sign the new deal, Take the money and move in a different direction.
We have to give Ange time and support.... Giving him another year of Harry Kane speculation is just a pain in the ar5e and delays the desperately needed rebuild.
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On Richie - He just is not clinical enough to be leading our line and while him replacing Kane may have been a small thought in the back of the chairman's head at the time, i doubt it was anything more than that. We've been crying out for Kane back up for ages, longer than we've been crying out for CBs.
What no one knows is the clubs stance on losing Kane for £0. Will we take a punt that we can convince him in the next year and risk losing him or is this an absolute no-go??
What is clear is that even if we are prepared to sell, we are always going to act as though we are not - Standard Levy negotiating tactic, to either drive up the price or drive away prospective buyers. Which is fair.
I do not think Kane is holding us to ransom, what is happening is normal and expected.
Where the conflict exists IMO is that IF we have decided we will sell but only for the right price then that discussion needs to have happened and a deadline set. So, Mr Munich, if you offer 90m+add-ons he's yours but only if that happens before 1st August. After that, no deal at any price! Club knows, Kane knows, with absolute confidentiality being a condition. Trouble is that this approach conflicts with us acting as unwilling sellers.
This is a massive moment, i agree Ange would hugely benefit from certainty, whether he stays or goes, but it is difficult. Put yourself in Munich fans shoes....you are thinking "why are we taking so long to prepare a new bid" . Munich probably think that the longer it drags the better their chances, so it is a very difficult situation to manage from Spurs point of view. Even if we will sell and have told Kane as much, it still needs to be the right price and if that offer aint there then what else can we do?
It all has a massive knock-on on our main transfer business, Kane money might make getting our top CB choices far more affordable, without it we may have to settle for CB picks B & C instead of A & B.
Keep in mind our budgets this summer will be smaller and probably a greater need to shift the unwanted out!
It is a thankless position for any chairman and an utter nightmare for Levy who seems to get really bogged down in these situations.
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comment by Diamondlights (U20501)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by rosso says the time has come to unlock the unl... (U17054)
posted 16 minutes ago
Levy might be a lot of things, but he isn’t stupid. And as such, he doesn’t need anyone telling him that if Kane won’t sign this summer he has to be sold.
Offers are clearly forthcoming, and if the options are cash in for the best part of £100m now or risk losing him on a free next summer, it’s a no brainer.
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I disagree. I think we would go into the last year of his contract.
If no one is offering more than £70m then the "loss" is not that catastrophic, we dont need to sell for FFP reasons. Plenty of clubs have let their assets run down their contract. Even if we sold, who can we realistically get in...it would only be average pro's or potential. All this talk of Vlahovic etc is nonesense, he'd not come to us right now and nor would anyone of similar quality.
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Regardless of whether you think he was the right signing, Do you think Richie was brought in last summer as a possible replacement for Kane, in the event he wouldn't commit to Spurs long term and Enic wasn't willing to lose him for nothing ?
Granted, it's hard to figure us out coz there's been so much upheaval with different managers/ formations.
Despite Sandy's ridiculous comment....... Kane is sitting there with 4 aces...... He cannot be allowed to hold the club to ransom. A 5 year deal that pays Kane approx 130mln quid is good business for Spurs. You know what you are gonna get and it would cost us more to try and replace him. If he wont sign the new deal, Take the money and move in a different direction.
We have to give Ange time and support.... Giving him another year of Harry Kane speculation is just a pain in the ar5e and delays the desperately needed rebuild.
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On Richie - He just is not clinical enough to be leading our line and while him replacing Kane may have been a small thought in the back of the chairman's head at the time, i doubt it was anything more than that. We've been crying out for Kane back up for ages, longer than we've been crying out for CBs.
What no one knows is the clubs stance on losing Kane for £0. Will we take a punt that we can convince him in the next year and risk losing him or is this an absolute no-go??
What is clear is that even if we are prepared to sell, we are always going to act as though we are not - Standard Levy negotiating tactic, to either drive up the price or drive away prospective buyers. Which is fair.
I do not think Kane is holding us to ransom, what is happening is normal and expected.
Where the conflict exists IMO is that IF we have decided we will sell but only for the right price then that discussion needs to have happened and a deadline set. So, Mr Munich, if you offer 90m+add-ons he's yours but only if that happens before 1st August. After that, no deal at any price! Club knows, Kane knows, with absolute confidentiality being a condition. Trouble is that this approach conflicts with us acting as unwilling sellers.
This is a massive moment, i agree Ange would hugely benefit from certainty, whether he stays or goes, but it is difficult. Put yourself in Munich fans shoes....you are thinking "why are we taking so long to prepare a new bid" . Munich probably think that the longer it drags the better their chances, so it is a very difficult situation to manage from Spurs point of view. Even if we will sell and have told Kane as much, it still needs to be the right price and if that offer aint there then what else can we do?
It all has a massive knock-on on our main transfer business, Kane money might make getting our top CB choices far more affordable, without it we may have to settle for CB picks B & C instead of A & B.
Keep in mind our budgets this summer will be smaller and probably a greater need to shift the unwanted out!
It is a thankless position for any chairman and an utter nightmare for Levy who seems to get really bogged down in these situations.
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Thats fair...... I think you are spot on Re it having an impact on our transfer activity re new CBs. I also think its a huge headache for Ange in terms of how we are gonna play & tactics post a possible Kane departure. Lets not forget there's gonna be a huge transition to go from a pragmatic, counter attacking side to one that wants the ball, wants to be on the front foot and wants to press high up the pitch
I wouldn't be in the least bit shocked to see Bayern come back with a bid of around 80mln and a bunch of add-ons next week and Kane will be sold. I suspect one or both of VdV and Tapsoba will be signed quickly after that and that will be it for our transfer activity.
I think Ange's plan will be to tighten up the Back 4 with a couple of good CB signings and it will up to Son, Richie, Kulu, Solomon, Madison and Porro to offset kane's goals & assists. Won't be easy but hopefully the new formation and approach suits those players..... The signs were good in the West Ham Friendly..... fingers crossed.
I don't think we will sign a striker, I think the Kane money will be spent on CBs and I can't see a striker of sufficient quality wanting to join us with no European football..... The focus needs to be on transitioning the team into what Ang wants it to be, not trying to find Kane mk2
Since Leverkusen sold Diaby to Villa do they even need to sell Tabsoba?
Abit arrogant to think we can just buy Tabsoba like that. They will need to replace him too and that's even if they want or need to sell. Same for VDV.
If Kane is Sold, Richie or Son can play 9 in Ange system. This means we need a goal scoring wide forward. Not sure who?
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If Kane is Sold, Richie or Son can play 9 in Ange system. This means we need a goal scoring wide forward. Not sure who?
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Me neither but there are more wide quality forwards around than there are CF.
Season starts in 18 days
What a total mess.
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Season starts in 18 days
What a total mess.
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Again !!!!
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Season starts in 18 days
What a total mess.
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Apparently everything is going to be fine though because the window is still open
It's like some people don't know how Levy operates.
I think we should be putting the feelers out to BHA to see what kind of figure would tempt them regarding Evan Ferguson. If I knew we could sell Kane now and get him in, I'd do it in a heartbeat, even if he cost the same as we'd end up getting for Kane. We'd then have our striker sorted for 10 years. He's a brilliant prospect and definitely gettable.
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posted 42 seconds ago
I think we should be putting the feelers out to BHA to see what kind of figure would tempt them regarding Evan Ferguson. If I knew we could sell Kane now and get him in, I'd do it in a heartbeat, even if he cost the same as we'd end up getting for Kane. We'd then have our striker sorted for 10 years. He's a brilliant prospect and definitely gettable.
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I think we will have probably put our feelers out in many places as possible Kane replacements.
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I think we should be putting the feelers out to BHA to see what kind of figure would tempt them regarding Evan Ferguson. If I knew we could sell Kane now and get him in, I'd do it in a heartbeat, even if he cost the same as we'd end up getting for Kane. We'd then have our striker sorted for 10 years. He's a brilliant prospect and definitely gettable.
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He just signed a new contract until 2028 in April this year. They want £70m or £80m for Caicedo. Brighton are no mugs.
Only played 20 times(10 starts) and scored 6. He is not the one yet but lets see if he carries on in his second season. But I agree he is a good prospect.
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comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 42 seconds ago
I think we should be putting the feelers out to BHA to see what kind of figure would tempt them regarding Evan Ferguson. If I knew we could sell Kane now and get him in, I'd do it in a heartbeat, even if he cost the same as we'd end up getting for Kane. We'd then have our striker sorted for 10 years. He's a brilliant prospect and definitely gettable.
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I think we will have probably put our feelers out in many places as possible Kane replacements.
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What was the point of spending £60m on Rico?
He deserves a chance to play through the middle, which he has not had a run of games yet. We need to buy a winger because Son can cover Rico up top, as he has done when Kane has been injured in the past.
We will be fine.
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comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
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comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 42 seconds ago
I think we should be putting the feelers out to BHA to see what kind of figure would tempt them regarding Evan Ferguson. If I knew we could sell Kane now and get him in, I'd do it in a heartbeat, even if he cost the same as we'd end up getting for Kane. We'd then have our striker sorted for 10 years. He's a brilliant prospect and definitely gettable.
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I think we will have probably put our feelers out in many places as possible Kane replacements.
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What was the point of spending £60m on Rico?
He deserves a chance to play through the middle, which he has not had a run of games yet. We need to buy a winger because Son can cover Rico up top, as he has done when Kane has been injured in the past.
We will be fine.
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Didn't we get Solomon to back up Son and play on the left ?
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comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
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I think we should be putting the feelers out to BHA to see what kind of figure would tempt them regarding Evan Ferguson. If I knew we could sell Kane now and get him in, I'd do it in a heartbeat, even if he cost the same as we'd end up getting for Kane. We'd then have our striker sorted for 10 years. He's a brilliant prospect and definitely gettable.
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I think we will have probably put our feelers out in many places as possible Kane replacements.
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What was the point of spending £60m on Rico?
He deserves a chance to play through the middle, which he has not had a run of games yet. We need to buy a winger because Son can cover Rico up top, as he has done when Kane has been injured in the past.
We will be fine.
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Just came out in a cold sweat. If you think Richy, who scored one goal last year for us, is the answer, then I worry for you sanity. Even in a season playing every minute of every single game his best scoring record is 13 says everything.
We're never going to replace Kane like for like but we can do a hell of a lot better than Richarlison in that area. A hell of al lot better.
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comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 42 seconds ago
I think we should be putting the feelers out to BHA to see what kind of figure would tempt them regarding Evan Ferguson. If I knew we could sell Kane now and get him in, I'd do it in a heartbeat, even if he cost the same as we'd end up getting for Kane. We'd then have our striker sorted for 10 years. He's a brilliant prospect and definitely gettable.
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I think we will have probably put our feelers out in many places as possible Kane replacements.
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What was the point of spending £60m on Rico?
He deserves a chance to play through the middle, which he has not had a run of games yet. We need to buy a winger because Son can cover Rico up top, as he has done when Kane has been injured in the past.
We will be fine.
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Just came out in a cold sweat. If you think Richy, who scored one goal last year for us, is the answer, then I worry for you sanity. Even in a season playing every minute of every single game his best scoring record is 13 says everything.
We're never going to replace Kane like for like but we can do a hell of a lot better than Richarlison in that area. A hell of al lot better.
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Question is..... WHO ?
Remember we always have Levy looking to do deals on the cheap and have no European football. Can't see too many world class players looking to step into Kane's boots and not measure up... Big shoes to fill
You could make the argument that with a new manager, more attacking formation & approach and Maddison as an attacking midfielder... could we expect 10-15 goals a piece from Richie, Son, Kulu & Solomon ?
Vlahovic will score bundles in Postecoglus system.
He has underwhelmed at Juve but so has the whole team.
He's a proper goal scorer.
Osimhen would be mental but his price tag and his injury record is a worry.
But agree Evan Ferguson definitely looks a future superstar.
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comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
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I think we should be putting the feelers out to BHA to see what kind of figure would tempt them regarding Evan Ferguson. If I knew we could sell Kane now and get him in, I'd do it in a heartbeat, even if he cost the same as we'd end up getting for Kane. We'd then have our striker sorted for 10 years. He's a brilliant prospect and definitely gettable.
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I think we will have probably put our feelers out in many places as possible Kane replacements.
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What was the point of spending £60m on Rico?
He deserves a chance to play through the middle, which he has not had a run of games yet. We need to buy a winger because Son can cover Rico up top, as he has done when Kane has been injured in the past.
We will be fine.
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Just came out in a cold sweat. If you think Richy, who scored one goal last year for us, is the answer, then I worry for you sanity. Even in a season playing every minute of every single game his best scoring record is 13 says everything.
We're never going to replace Kane like for like but we can do a hell of a lot better than Richarlison in that area. A hell of al lot better.
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Agreed but selling clubs will know we have money to burn. It is not going to be easy to replace Kane straight away.
Rico's pressing and hold up play will be useful for Ange. He deserves a chance playing in his rightful position. Not on the wing where he has played for the majority of the time under a counter attacking manager.
The West Ham game was good advert for Angeball. He was running behind defenders as well. He deserves a chance.
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comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 42 seconds ago
I think we should be putting the feelers out to BHA to see what kind of figure would tempt them regarding Evan Ferguson. If I knew we could sell Kane now and get him in, I'd do it in a heartbeat, even if he cost the same as we'd end up getting for Kane. We'd then have our striker sorted for 10 years. He's a brilliant prospect and definitely gettable.
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I think we will have probably put our feelers out in many places as possible Kane replacements.
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What was the point of spending £60m on Rico?
He deserves a chance to play through the middle, which he has not had a run of games yet. We need to buy a winger because Son can cover Rico up top, as he has done when Kane has been injured in the past.
We will be fine.
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Just came out in a cold sweat. If you think Richy, who scored one goal last year for us, is the answer, then I worry for you sanity. Even in a season playing every minute of every single game his best scoring record is 13 says everything.
We're never going to replace Kane like for like but we can do a hell of a lot better than Richarlison in that area. A hell of al lot better.
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Rico boy did score a few including a cracker on his debut, when he ran into the channel, received the pass from Skippy and smashed to the roof!
But many of his subsequent goals, it was chalked off for offside
The boy does not get offside
Kolo Muani would be my choice. Fast and finishes woth both feet.
But I agree with letting Richy play no.9 until January by then Ange will have a proper gauge on him
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comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
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comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
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I think we should be putting the feelers out to BHA to see what kind of figure would tempt them regarding Evan Ferguson. If I knew we could sell Kane now and get him in, I'd do it in a heartbeat, even if he cost the same as we'd end up getting for Kane. We'd then have our striker sorted for 10 years. He's a brilliant prospect and definitely gettable.
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I think we will have probably put our feelers out in many places as possible Kane replacements.
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What was the point of spending £60m on Rico?
He deserves a chance to play through the middle, which he has not had a run of games yet. We need to buy a winger because Son can cover Rico up top, as he has done when Kane has been injured in the past.
We will be fine.
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Just came out in a cold sweat. If you think Richy, who scored one goal last year for us, is the answer, then I worry for you sanity. Even in a season playing every minute of every single game his best scoring record is 13 says everything.
We're never going to replace Kane like for like but we can do a hell of a lot better than Richarlison in that area. A hell of al lot better.
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Rico boy did score a few including a cracker on his debut, when he ran into the channel, received the pass from Skippy and smashed to the roof!
But many of his subsequent goals, it was chalked off for offside
The boy does not get offside
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Incredible how offside he is. Combination of Defoe and Inzaghi built without the finishing
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posted on 24/7/23
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by rosso says the time has come to unlock the unl... (U17054)
posted 16 minutes ago
Levy might be a lot of things, but he isn’t stupid. And as such, he doesn’t need anyone telling him that if Kane won’t sign this summer he has to be sold.
Offers are clearly forthcoming, and if the options are cash in for the best part of £100m now or risk losing him on a free next summer, it’s a no brainer.
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I disagree. I think we would go into the last year of his contract.
If no one is offering more than £70m then the "loss" is not that catastrophic, we dont need to sell for FFP reasons. Plenty of clubs have let their assets run down their contract. Even if we sold, who can we realistically get in...it would only be average pro's or potential. All this talk of Vlahovic etc is nonesense, he'd not come to us right now and nor would anyone of similar quality.
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With multiple giant clubs interested, you’re looking at closer to £100m, surely.
Even if not, you’re left with two choices:
- Lose Kane this summer but rake in £70m to spend on a replacement/spend elsewhere
- Lose Kane next summer for nothing and still have to replace him.
posted on 24/7/23
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by rosso says the time has come to unlock the unl... (U17054)
posted 16 minutes ago
Levy might be a lot of things, but he isn’t stupid. And as such, he doesn’t need anyone telling him that if Kane won’t sign this summer he has to be sold.
Offers are clearly forthcoming, and if the options are cash in for the best part of £100m now or risk losing him on a free next summer, it’s a no brainer.
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I disagree. I think we would go into the last year of his contract.
If no one is offering more than £70m then the "loss" is not that catastrophic, we dont need to sell for FFP reasons. Plenty of clubs have let their assets run down their contract. Even if we sold, who can we realistically get in...it would only be average pro's or potential. All this talk of Vlahovic etc is nonesense, he'd not come to us right now and nor would anyone of similar quality.
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Regardless of whether you think he was the right signing, Do you think Richie was brought in last summer as a possible replacement for Kane, in the event he wouldn't commit to Spurs long term and Enic wasn't willing to lose him for nothing ?
Granted, it's hard to figure us out coz there's been so much upheaval with different managers/ formations.
Despite Sandy's ridiculous comment....... Kane is sitting there with 4 aces...... He cannot be allowed to hold the club to ransom. A 5 year deal that pays Kane approx 130mln quid is good business for Spurs. You know what you are gonna get and it would cost us more to try and replace him. If he wont sign the new deal, Take the money and move in a different direction.
We have to give Ange time and support.... Giving him another year of Harry Kane speculation is just a pain in the ar5e and delays the desperately needed rebuild.
posted on 24/7/23
It is a joke because Levy says he won't sell to a rival but I can see him selling to United if they put the money up.
Given the direct choice between United and Bayern I have no doubt Kane would go to Manchester. Everyone knows that.
So big man Levy is nothing but an errand boy when uncle Joe actually calls the shots.
It is a joke because the club is faffing about with Kane saga and we still have Sanchez and Dier as first choice defenders with just over 2 weeks left before the season starts.
Where are the the 2 new CB we badly need.
It's always a joke with Spurs and fans can't see that.
We are all arguing with each other.
Classic divide and conquer by the club.
posted on 24/7/23
comment by Diamondlights (U20501)
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comment by rosso says the time has come to unlock the unl... (U17054)
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Levy might be a lot of things, but he isn’t stupid. And as such, he doesn’t need anyone telling him that if Kane won’t sign this summer he has to be sold.
Offers are clearly forthcoming, and if the options are cash in for the best part of £100m now or risk losing him on a free next summer, it’s a no brainer.
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I disagree. I think we would go into the last year of his contract.
If no one is offering more than £70m then the "loss" is not that catastrophic, we dont need to sell for FFP reasons. Plenty of clubs have let their assets run down their contract. Even if we sold, who can we realistically get in...it would only be average pro's or potential. All this talk of Vlahovic etc is nonesense, he'd not come to us right now and nor would anyone of similar quality.
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Regardless of whether you think he was the right signing, Do you think Richie was brought in last summer as a possible replacement for Kane, in the event he wouldn't commit to Spurs long term and Enic wasn't willing to lose him for nothing ?
Granted, it's hard to figure us out coz there's been so much upheaval with different managers/ formations.
Despite Sandy's ridiculous comment....... Kane is sitting there with 4 aces...... He cannot be allowed to hold the club to ransom. A 5 year deal that pays Kane approx 130mln quid is good business for Spurs. You know what you are gonna get and it would cost us more to try and replace him. If he wont sign the new deal, Take the money and move in a different direction.
We have to give Ange time and support.... Giving him another year of Harry Kane speculation is just a pain in the ar5e and delays the desperately needed rebuild.
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On Richie - He just is not clinical enough to be leading our line and while him replacing Kane may have been a small thought in the back of the chairman's head at the time, i doubt it was anything more than that. We've been crying out for Kane back up for ages, longer than we've been crying out for CBs.
What no one knows is the clubs stance on losing Kane for £0. Will we take a punt that we can convince him in the next year and risk losing him or is this an absolute no-go??
What is clear is that even if we are prepared to sell, we are always going to act as though we are not - Standard Levy negotiating tactic, to either drive up the price or drive away prospective buyers. Which is fair.
I do not think Kane is holding us to ransom, what is happening is normal and expected.
Where the conflict exists IMO is that IF we have decided we will sell but only for the right price then that discussion needs to have happened and a deadline set. So, Mr Munich, if you offer 90m+add-ons he's yours but only if that happens before 1st August. After that, no deal at any price! Club knows, Kane knows, with absolute confidentiality being a condition. Trouble is that this approach conflicts with us acting as unwilling sellers.
This is a massive moment, i agree Ange would hugely benefit from certainty, whether he stays or goes, but it is difficult. Put yourself in Munich fans shoes....you are thinking "why are we taking so long to prepare a new bid" . Munich probably think that the longer it drags the better their chances, so it is a very difficult situation to manage from Spurs point of view. Even if we will sell and have told Kane as much, it still needs to be the right price and if that offer aint there then what else can we do?
It all has a massive knock-on on our main transfer business, Kane money might make getting our top CB choices far more affordable, without it we may have to settle for CB picks B & C instead of A & B.
Keep in mind our budgets this summer will be smaller and probably a greater need to shift the unwanted out!
It is a thankless position for any chairman and an utter nightmare for Levy who seems to get really bogged down in these situations.
posted on 24/7/23
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
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comment by Diamondlights (U20501)
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Levy might be a lot of things, but he isn’t stupid. And as such, he doesn’t need anyone telling him that if Kane won’t sign this summer he has to be sold.
Offers are clearly forthcoming, and if the options are cash in for the best part of £100m now or risk losing him on a free next summer, it’s a no brainer.
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I disagree. I think we would go into the last year of his contract.
If no one is offering more than £70m then the "loss" is not that catastrophic, we dont need to sell for FFP reasons. Plenty of clubs have let their assets run down their contract. Even if we sold, who can we realistically get in...it would only be average pro's or potential. All this talk of Vlahovic etc is nonesense, he'd not come to us right now and nor would anyone of similar quality.
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Regardless of whether you think he was the right signing, Do you think Richie was brought in last summer as a possible replacement for Kane, in the event he wouldn't commit to Spurs long term and Enic wasn't willing to lose him for nothing ?
Granted, it's hard to figure us out coz there's been so much upheaval with different managers/ formations.
Despite Sandy's ridiculous comment....... Kane is sitting there with 4 aces...... He cannot be allowed to hold the club to ransom. A 5 year deal that pays Kane approx 130mln quid is good business for Spurs. You know what you are gonna get and it would cost us more to try and replace him. If he wont sign the new deal, Take the money and move in a different direction.
We have to give Ange time and support.... Giving him another year of Harry Kane speculation is just a pain in the ar5e and delays the desperately needed rebuild.
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On Richie - He just is not clinical enough to be leading our line and while him replacing Kane may have been a small thought in the back of the chairman's head at the time, i doubt it was anything more than that. We've been crying out for Kane back up for ages, longer than we've been crying out for CBs.
What no one knows is the clubs stance on losing Kane for £0. Will we take a punt that we can convince him in the next year and risk losing him or is this an absolute no-go??
What is clear is that even if we are prepared to sell, we are always going to act as though we are not - Standard Levy negotiating tactic, to either drive up the price or drive away prospective buyers. Which is fair.
I do not think Kane is holding us to ransom, what is happening is normal and expected.
Where the conflict exists IMO is that IF we have decided we will sell but only for the right price then that discussion needs to have happened and a deadline set. So, Mr Munich, if you offer 90m+add-ons he's yours but only if that happens before 1st August. After that, no deal at any price! Club knows, Kane knows, with absolute confidentiality being a condition. Trouble is that this approach conflicts with us acting as unwilling sellers.
This is a massive moment, i agree Ange would hugely benefit from certainty, whether he stays or goes, but it is difficult. Put yourself in Munich fans shoes....you are thinking "why are we taking so long to prepare a new bid" . Munich probably think that the longer it drags the better their chances, so it is a very difficult situation to manage from Spurs point of view. Even if we will sell and have told Kane as much, it still needs to be the right price and if that offer aint there then what else can we do?
It all has a massive knock-on on our main transfer business, Kane money might make getting our top CB choices far more affordable, without it we may have to settle for CB picks B & C instead of A & B.
Keep in mind our budgets this summer will be smaller and probably a greater need to shift the unwanted out!
It is a thankless position for any chairman and an utter nightmare for Levy who seems to get really bogged down in these situations.
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Thats fair...... I think you are spot on Re it having an impact on our transfer activity re new CBs. I also think its a huge headache for Ange in terms of how we are gonna play & tactics post a possible Kane departure. Lets not forget there's gonna be a huge transition to go from a pragmatic, counter attacking side to one that wants the ball, wants to be on the front foot and wants to press high up the pitch
posted on 24/7/23
I wouldn't be in the least bit shocked to see Bayern come back with a bid of around 80mln and a bunch of add-ons next week and Kane will be sold. I suspect one or both of VdV and Tapsoba will be signed quickly after that and that will be it for our transfer activity.
I think Ange's plan will be to tighten up the Back 4 with a couple of good CB signings and it will up to Son, Richie, Kulu, Solomon, Madison and Porro to offset kane's goals & assists. Won't be easy but hopefully the new formation and approach suits those players..... The signs were good in the West Ham Friendly..... fingers crossed.
I don't think we will sign a striker, I think the Kane money will be spent on CBs and I can't see a striker of sufficient quality wanting to join us with no European football..... The focus needs to be on transitioning the team into what Ang wants it to be, not trying to find Kane mk2
posted on 24/7/23
Since Leverkusen sold Diaby to Villa do they even need to sell Tabsoba?
Abit arrogant to think we can just buy Tabsoba like that. They will need to replace him too and that's even if they want or need to sell. Same for VDV.
posted on 24/7/23
If Kane is Sold, Richie or Son can play 9 in Ange system. This means we need a goal scoring wide forward. Not sure who?
posted on 24/7/23
comment by Ioavirgo (U10470)
posted 1 minute ago
If Kane is Sold, Richie or Son can play 9 in Ange system. This means we need a goal scoring wide forward. Not sure who?
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Me neither but there are more wide quality forwards around than there are CF.
posted on 24/7/23
Season starts in 18 days
What a total mess.
posted on 24/7/23
comment by Occa Mack (U6574)
posted 5 minutes ago
Season starts in 18 days
What a total mess.
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Again !!!!
posted on 24/7/23
comment by Occa Mack (U6574)
posted 8 minutes ago
Season starts in 18 days
What a total mess.
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Apparently everything is going to be fine though because the window is still open
It's like some people don't know how Levy operates.
posted on 24/7/23
I think we should be putting the feelers out to BHA to see what kind of figure would tempt them regarding Evan Ferguson. If I knew we could sell Kane now and get him in, I'd do it in a heartbeat, even if he cost the same as we'd end up getting for Kane. We'd then have our striker sorted for 10 years. He's a brilliant prospect and definitely gettable.
posted on 24/7/23
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 42 seconds ago
I think we should be putting the feelers out to BHA to see what kind of figure would tempt them regarding Evan Ferguson. If I knew we could sell Kane now and get him in, I'd do it in a heartbeat, even if he cost the same as we'd end up getting for Kane. We'd then have our striker sorted for 10 years. He's a brilliant prospect and definitely gettable.
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I think we will have probably put our feelers out in many places as possible Kane replacements.
posted on 24/7/23
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 1 minute ago
I think we should be putting the feelers out to BHA to see what kind of figure would tempt them regarding Evan Ferguson. If I knew we could sell Kane now and get him in, I'd do it in a heartbeat, even if he cost the same as we'd end up getting for Kane. We'd then have our striker sorted for 10 years. He's a brilliant prospect and definitely gettable.
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He just signed a new contract until 2028 in April this year. They want £70m or £80m for Caicedo. Brighton are no mugs.
Only played 20 times(10 starts) and scored 6. He is not the one yet but lets see if he carries on in his second season. But I agree he is a good prospect.
posted on 24/7/23
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 42 seconds ago
I think we should be putting the feelers out to BHA to see what kind of figure would tempt them regarding Evan Ferguson. If I knew we could sell Kane now and get him in, I'd do it in a heartbeat, even if he cost the same as we'd end up getting for Kane. We'd then have our striker sorted for 10 years. He's a brilliant prospect and definitely gettable.
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I think we will have probably put our feelers out in many places as possible Kane replacements.
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What was the point of spending £60m on Rico?
He deserves a chance to play through the middle, which he has not had a run of games yet. We need to buy a winger because Son can cover Rico up top, as he has done when Kane has been injured in the past.
We will be fine.
posted on 24/7/23
comment by LukaBrasi Postecoglou on the lefthand side (U22178)
posted 37 seconds ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 42 seconds ago
I think we should be putting the feelers out to BHA to see what kind of figure would tempt them regarding Evan Ferguson. If I knew we could sell Kane now and get him in, I'd do it in a heartbeat, even if he cost the same as we'd end up getting for Kane. We'd then have our striker sorted for 10 years. He's a brilliant prospect and definitely gettable.
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I think we will have probably put our feelers out in many places as possible Kane replacements.
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What was the point of spending £60m on Rico?
He deserves a chance to play through the middle, which he has not had a run of games yet. We need to buy a winger because Son can cover Rico up top, as he has done when Kane has been injured in the past.
We will be fine.
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Didn't we get Solomon to back up Son and play on the left ?
posted on 24/7/23
Yep
posted on 24/7/23
comment by LukaBrasi Postecoglou on the lefthand side (U22178)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 42 seconds ago
I think we should be putting the feelers out to BHA to see what kind of figure would tempt them regarding Evan Ferguson. If I knew we could sell Kane now and get him in, I'd do it in a heartbeat, even if he cost the same as we'd end up getting for Kane. We'd then have our striker sorted for 10 years. He's a brilliant prospect and definitely gettable.
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I think we will have probably put our feelers out in many places as possible Kane replacements.
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What was the point of spending £60m on Rico?
He deserves a chance to play through the middle, which he has not had a run of games yet. We need to buy a winger because Son can cover Rico up top, as he has done when Kane has been injured in the past.
We will be fine.
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Just came out in a cold sweat. If you think Richy, who scored one goal last year for us, is the answer, then I worry for you sanity. Even in a season playing every minute of every single game his best scoring record is 13 says everything.
We're never going to replace Kane like for like but we can do a hell of a lot better than Richarlison in that area. A hell of al lot better.
posted on 24/7/23
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by LukaBrasi Postecoglou on the lefthand side (U22178)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 42 seconds ago
I think we should be putting the feelers out to BHA to see what kind of figure would tempt them regarding Evan Ferguson. If I knew we could sell Kane now and get him in, I'd do it in a heartbeat, even if he cost the same as we'd end up getting for Kane. We'd then have our striker sorted for 10 years. He's a brilliant prospect and definitely gettable.
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I think we will have probably put our feelers out in many places as possible Kane replacements.
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What was the point of spending £60m on Rico?
He deserves a chance to play through the middle, which he has not had a run of games yet. We need to buy a winger because Son can cover Rico up top, as he has done when Kane has been injured in the past.
We will be fine.
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Just came out in a cold sweat. If you think Richy, who scored one goal last year for us, is the answer, then I worry for you sanity. Even in a season playing every minute of every single game his best scoring record is 13 says everything.
We're never going to replace Kane like for like but we can do a hell of a lot better than Richarlison in that area. A hell of al lot better.
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Question is..... WHO ?
Remember we always have Levy looking to do deals on the cheap and have no European football. Can't see too many world class players looking to step into Kane's boots and not measure up... Big shoes to fill
You could make the argument that with a new manager, more attacking formation & approach and Maddison as an attacking midfielder... could we expect 10-15 goals a piece from Richie, Son, Kulu & Solomon ?
posted on 24/7/23
Vlahovic will score bundles in Postecoglus system.
He has underwhelmed at Juve but so has the whole team.
He's a proper goal scorer.
Osimhen would be mental but his price tag and his injury record is a worry.
But agree Evan Ferguson definitely looks a future superstar.
posted on 24/7/23
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by LukaBrasi Postecoglou on the lefthand side (U22178)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 42 seconds ago
I think we should be putting the feelers out to BHA to see what kind of figure would tempt them regarding Evan Ferguson. If I knew we could sell Kane now and get him in, I'd do it in a heartbeat, even if he cost the same as we'd end up getting for Kane. We'd then have our striker sorted for 10 years. He's a brilliant prospect and definitely gettable.
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I think we will have probably put our feelers out in many places as possible Kane replacements.
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What was the point of spending £60m on Rico?
He deserves a chance to play through the middle, which he has not had a run of games yet. We need to buy a winger because Son can cover Rico up top, as he has done when Kane has been injured in the past.
We will be fine.
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Just came out in a cold sweat. If you think Richy, who scored one goal last year for us, is the answer, then I worry for you sanity. Even in a season playing every minute of every single game his best scoring record is 13 says everything.
We're never going to replace Kane like for like but we can do a hell of a lot better than Richarlison in that area. A hell of al lot better.
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Agreed but selling clubs will know we have money to burn. It is not going to be easy to replace Kane straight away.
Rico's pressing and hold up play will be useful for Ange. He deserves a chance playing in his rightful position. Not on the wing where he has played for the majority of the time under a counter attacking manager.
The West Ham game was good advert for Angeball. He was running behind defenders as well. He deserves a chance.
posted on 24/7/23
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by LukaBrasi Postecoglou on the lefthand side (U22178)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 42 seconds ago
I think we should be putting the feelers out to BHA to see what kind of figure would tempt them regarding Evan Ferguson. If I knew we could sell Kane now and get him in, I'd do it in a heartbeat, even if he cost the same as we'd end up getting for Kane. We'd then have our striker sorted for 10 years. He's a brilliant prospect and definitely gettable.
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I think we will have probably put our feelers out in many places as possible Kane replacements.
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What was the point of spending £60m on Rico?
He deserves a chance to play through the middle, which he has not had a run of games yet. We need to buy a winger because Son can cover Rico up top, as he has done when Kane has been injured in the past.
We will be fine.
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Just came out in a cold sweat. If you think Richy, who scored one goal last year for us, is the answer, then I worry for you sanity. Even in a season playing every minute of every single game his best scoring record is 13 says everything.
We're never going to replace Kane like for like but we can do a hell of a lot better than Richarlison in that area. A hell of al lot better.
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Rico boy did score a few including a cracker on his debut, when he ran into the channel, received the pass from Skippy and smashed to the roof!
But many of his subsequent goals, it was chalked off for offside
The boy does not get offside
posted on 24/7/23
Kolo Muani would be my choice. Fast and finishes woth both feet.
But I agree with letting Richy play no.9 until January by then Ange will have a proper gauge on him
posted on 24/7/23
comment by He who Dares, waits for Trophies (U15748)
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comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by LukaBrasi Postecoglou on the lefthand side (U22178)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 42 seconds ago
I think we should be putting the feelers out to BHA to see what kind of figure would tempt them regarding Evan Ferguson. If I knew we could sell Kane now and get him in, I'd do it in a heartbeat, even if he cost the same as we'd end up getting for Kane. We'd then have our striker sorted for 10 years. He's a brilliant prospect and definitely gettable.
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I think we will have probably put our feelers out in many places as possible Kane replacements.
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What was the point of spending £60m on Rico?
He deserves a chance to play through the middle, which he has not had a run of games yet. We need to buy a winger because Son can cover Rico up top, as he has done when Kane has been injured in the past.
We will be fine.
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Just came out in a cold sweat. If you think Richy, who scored one goal last year for us, is the answer, then I worry for you sanity. Even in a season playing every minute of every single game his best scoring record is 13 says everything.
We're never going to replace Kane like for like but we can do a hell of a lot better than Richarlison in that area. A hell of al lot better.
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Rico boy did score a few including a cracker on his debut, when he ran into the channel, received the pass from Skippy and smashed to the roof!
But many of his subsequent goals, it was chalked off for offside
The boy does not get offside
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Incredible how offside he is. Combination of Defoe and Inzaghi built without the finishing
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