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comment by Ohnono (U22987)
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comment by Diafol Coch 77 (U2462)
posted 6 minutes ago
If my 24yo step-daughter came to me with that audio/video I'd tell her to leave her boyfriend and he'd be at the end of a few choice words.
Now, I wouldn't be able to do that with any authority if I supported Greenwood coming back.
It's as simple as that for me. CPS or not.
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And would you leave it at that, or try and get to the bottom of the audio and what was going on?
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I'd get to the bottom of it and still tell her that he's a waste of space.
If she decided she did still want to be with him she wouldn't be doing it with my blessing. However, I'd still love her though. Which is quite similar to what people have been saying on here about Greenwood and United.
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What if you were offered a hefty sum of cash to keep shtum?
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In all honesty, even though this is unlikely to happen to me, I'd by lying if a hefty sum didn't at least turn my head. I'd like to think I wouldn't take it of course but if it set me up for life...
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Oh dear.
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Why is that Oh dear? It's not the gotcha you think it is. I'm just being honest but I'd like to think, as stated, I'd turn it down.
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Its oh dear because it would be a shame for someone to put money before justice.
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If you can think badly of me for stating what I did above then, by default, you also have to accept that some people may well take payment to keep quite.
Which is where we are now I reckon...
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Ohnono (U22987)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Redastomatoes- Feels very Moyesian...cleverson forever!If he is good enough he is ready! (U12026)
posted 44 seconds ago
comment by Ohnono (U22987)
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comment by Elvis (U7425)
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comment by Baz tard (U19119)
posted 59 seconds ago
comment by Ohnono (U22987)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 3 minutes ago
For myself the article posted by Diafol says what I feel about it, better than I can.
I do not believe for an instant it was role play, he was abusing her and threatened rape.
The recording has never been denied.
I hope he doesn't play for us anymore, beyond that I've no opinion.
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Just because you don't believe it, doesn't make it so.
And you dont know what explanation has been offered.
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Because one hasn’t been offered. Why is that? Mason’s PR would be all over it if it was something that shows him in a good light. You are in the same boat RDD.
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Got to agree with this. I've always maintained that there is a very very small chance that there could me a feasible explanation. But if there was one, why haven't we heard it by now? Doesn't look good.
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It's common practice not to comment during an enquiry/ investigation.
Let's be honest Elvis. If such an explanation was released, you would simply dismiss it as a PR excercise, so what would be the point?
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Lmao. A PR exercise would be better than nothing. I think the full record is available and its irredeemable. What he should have done was have the PR exercise on remorse and search for forgiveness.
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How exaclty would it be better?
The only ones demanding an explanation are those that don't accept the CPS decision, or trust the club (they support) to do the right thing
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I definitely don't trust the club. But they have a 50% chance of getting it right.
If they both agreed it was role play a joint statement ends it all.
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I think that ship has sailed, the case was dropped ages ago so he's had plenty of time to release a statement/explanation
comment by Ohnono (U22987)
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comment by Roy's Keane (U11635)
posted 3 minutes ago
Puts his faith in the CPS unless it his daughter that's involved
And tell me if the CPS said your daughter was partly complicit would you still welcome her boyfriend back into your home
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What else can we conclude when the CPS say there is no chance of a conviction based on the body of evidence?
If it was my daughter I'd OBVIOUSLY have access to more information and be better placed to judge the situation.
Again, if you were being honest, you know this is correct.
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Way to miss the point
As for the question would you welcome the boyfriend back into your house even if your daughter was somehow complicit and it was confirmed by the CPS findings
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Way to miss the point.
If it were my daughter I wouldnt be reliant on just the CPS findings would I?
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I don't know
What if you don't get on and she won't speak to you
Would you just rely on the CPS decision
Would you welcome him back into your house even if she told you everything and the CPS decision was not to prosecute ?
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What has she told me?
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Is there anything your daughter could tell you that would have you welcome him back into your house ?
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I don't know.
WHat if it were your daughter and she told you she liked it rough?
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We are talking about your daughter in this scenario
And you are saying you don't know if you would welcome some cant that was being rough with your daughter back into your house
Pathetic
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I'm not prepared to answer your hypothetical questions unless you're willing to also.
The point stands. If I only had the CPS decision to go on. Then I'd have no choice but to accept it. If it were my child that wouldn't be the case, as you well know.
Idiot.
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A hypocrite or a pathetic excuse of a father
Take your choice
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Roy - like inside earlier. You are just making yourself looking either stupid or pig headed in not getting, or ignoring the explanation I and anyone else being honest, would offer.
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A pathetic excuse of a father it is then
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comment by Redastomatoes- Feels very Moyesian...cleverson forever!If he is good enough he is ready! (U12026)
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comment by Elvis (U7425)
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comment by Ohnono (U22987)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 3 minutes ago
For myself the article posted by Diafol says what I feel about it, better than I can.
I do not believe for an instant it was role play, he was abusing her and threatened rape.
The recording has never been denied.
I hope he doesn't play for us anymore, beyond that I've no opinion.
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Just because you don't believe it, doesn't make it so.
And you dont know what explanation has been offered.
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Because one hasn’t been offered. Why is that? Mason’s PR would be all over it if it was something that shows him in a good light. You are in the same boat RDD.
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Got to agree with this. I've always maintained that there is a very very small chance that there could me a feasible explanation. But if there was one, why haven't we heard it by now? Doesn't look good.
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It's common practice not to comment during an enquiry/ investigation.
Let's be honest Elvis. If such an explanation was released, you would simply dismiss it as a PR excercise, so what would be the point?
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Lmao. A PR exercise would be better than nothing. I think the full record is available and its irredeemable. What he should have done was have the PR exercise on remorse and search for forgiveness.
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How exaclty would it be better?
The only ones demanding an explanation are those that don't accept the CPS decision, or trust the club (they support) to do the right thing
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I definitely don't trust the club. But they have a 50% chance of getting it right.
If they both agreed it was role play a joint statement ends it all.
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I think that ship has sailed, the case was dropped ages ago so he's had plenty of time to release a statement/explanation
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..but hasn’t. Not even a leak. Telling imo
comment by RB&W - Whiteside has done it again (U21434)
posted 3 minutes ago
This is getting daft now and going nowhere.
Fact. In law, it means the truth about events as opposed to interpretation.
Fact. Nobody really knows the truth about any of these events. This includes opinions on all sides of the Greenwood arguement.
Because we aint going to get the truth from anybody connected and involved with the case (and why should they), its probably best if Man United respected their supporters and stakeholders and end their relationship with Greenwood. I cant see how United can move on with him, without making a lot of people unhappy. He's just not worth it. Guilty or innocent.
PS I think that RDD is either an actual deviant fantasist or a very, very persistent wind-up-merchant.
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The irony is that you partly agree with my view that none of us know the full facts, and neither should we.
comment by Diafol Coch 77 (U2462)
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comment by Diafol Coch 77 (U2462)
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comment by Ohnono (U22987)
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comment by Diafol Coch 77 (U2462)
posted 6 minutes ago
If my 24yo step-daughter came to me with that audio/video I'd tell her to leave her boyfriend and he'd be at the end of a few choice words.
Now, I wouldn't be able to do that with any authority if I supported Greenwood coming back.
It's as simple as that for me. CPS or not.
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And would you leave it at that, or try and get to the bottom of the audio and what was going on?
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I'd get to the bottom of it and still tell her that he's a waste of space.
If she decided she did still want to be with him she wouldn't be doing it with my blessing. However, I'd still love her though. Which is quite similar to what people have been saying on here about Greenwood and United.
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What if you were offered a hefty sum of cash to keep shtum?
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In all honesty, even though this is unlikely to happen to me, I'd by lying if a hefty sum didn't at least turn my head. I'd like to think I wouldn't take it of course but if it set me up for life...
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Oh dear.
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Why is that Oh dear? It's not the gotcha you think it is. I'm just being honest but I'd like to think, as stated, I'd turn it down.
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Its oh dear because it would be a shame for someone to put money before justice.
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If you can think badly of me for stating what I did above then, by default, you also have to accept that some people may well take payment to keep quite.
Which is where we are now I reckon...
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I wouldn't blame people in certain scenarios that take the money, especially if it's life changing. Given the relatively low conviction rate for sexx crimes, you could go through it all and still not receive justice. I'm not saying it's the right thing to do but I do understand it
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comment by Diafol Coch 77 (U2462)
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comment by Ohnono (U22987)
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comment by Diafol Coch 77 (U2462)
posted 6 minutes ago
If my 24yo step-daughter came to me with that audio/video I'd tell her to leave her boyfriend and he'd be at the end of a few choice words.
Now, I wouldn't be able to do that with any authority if I supported Greenwood coming back.
It's as simple as that for me. CPS or not.
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And would you leave it at that, or try and get to the bottom of the audio and what was going on?
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I'd get to the bottom of it and still tell her that he's a waste of space.
If she decided she did still want to be with him she wouldn't be doing it with my blessing. However, I'd still love her though. Which is quite similar to what people have been saying on here about Greenwood and United.
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What if you were offered a hefty sum of cash to keep shtum?
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In all honesty, even though this is unlikely to happen to me, I'd by lying if a hefty sum didn't at least turn my head. I'd like to think I wouldn't take it of course but if it set me up for life...
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Oh dear.
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Why is that Oh dear? It's not the gotcha you think it is. I'm just being honest but I'd like to think, as stated, I'd turn it down.
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Its oh dear because it would be a shame for someone to put money before justice.
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If you can think badly of me for stating what I did above then, by default, you also have to accept that some people may well take payment to keep quite.
Which is where we are now I reckon...
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I dont/ didn't think badly of you though. I said it would be a shame.
comment by Redastomatoes- Feels very Moyesian...cleverson forever!If he is good enough he is ready! (U12026)
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comment by Ohnono (U22987)
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comment by Elvis (U7425)
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comment by Baz tard (U19119)
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comment by Ohnono (U22987)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 3 minutes ago
For myself the article posted by Diafol says what I feel about it, better than I can.
I do not believe for an instant it was role play, he was abusing her and threatened rape.
The recording has never been denied.
I hope he doesn't play for us anymore, beyond that I've no opinion.
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Just because you don't believe it, doesn't make it so.
And you dont know what explanation has been offered.
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Because one hasn’t been offered. Why is that? Mason’s PR would be all over it if it was something that shows him in a good light. You are in the same boat RDD.
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Got to agree with this. I've always maintained that there is a very very small chance that there could me a feasible explanation. But if there was one, why haven't we heard it by now? Doesn't look good.
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It's common practice not to comment during an enquiry/ investigation.
Let's be honest Elvis. If such an explanation was released, you would simply dismiss it as a PR excercise, so what would be the point?
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Lmao. A PR exercise would be better than nothing. I think the full record is available and its irredeemable. What he should have done was have the PR exercise on remorse and search for forgiveness.
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If he hadn't done anything wrong then why is he still with her? Most likely scenario is that the audio was what it sounded like. He's then got back with her, as tends to happen with domestic abuse, and got her pregnant to strengthen his position. A few brown envelopes have exchanged hands and here we are
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comment by Roy's Keane (U11635)
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comment by Ohnono (U22987)
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comment by Roy's Keane (U11635)
posted 3 minutes ago
Puts his faith in the CPS unless it his daughter that's involved
And tell me if the CPS said your daughter was partly complicit would you still welcome her boyfriend back into your home
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What else can we conclude when the CPS say there is no chance of a conviction based on the body of evidence?
If it was my daughter I'd OBVIOUSLY have access to more information and be better placed to judge the situation.
Again, if you were being honest, you know this is correct.
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Way to miss the point
As for the question would you welcome the boyfriend back into your house even if your daughter was somehow complicit and it was confirmed by the CPS findings
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Way to miss the point.
If it were my daughter I wouldnt be reliant on just the CPS findings would I?
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I don't know
What if you don't get on and she won't speak to you
Would you just rely on the CPS decision
Would you welcome him back into your house even if she told you everything and the CPS decision was not to prosecute ?
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What has she told me?
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Is there anything your daughter could tell you that would have you welcome him back into your house ?
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I don't know.
WHat if it were your daughter and she told you she liked it rough?
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We are talking about your daughter in this scenario
And you are saying you don't know if you would welcome some cant that was being rough with your daughter back into your house
Pathetic
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I'm not prepared to answer your hypothetical questions unless you're willing to also.
The point stands. If I only had the CPS decision to go on. Then I'd have no choice but to accept it. If it were my child that wouldn't be the case, as you well know.
Idiot.
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A hypocrite or a pathetic excuse of a father
Take your choice
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Roy - like inside earlier. You are just making yourself looking either stupid or pig headed in not getting, or ignoring the explanation I and anyone else being honest, would offer.
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A pathetic excuse of a father it is then
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Oh no. Some n08 on the Internet thinks I'd be a bad dad because he is too thick to interpret his own imaginary scenario
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comment by Redastomatoes- Feels very Moyesian...cleverson forever!If he is good enough he is ready! (U12026)
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comment by Elvis (U7425)
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comment by Baz tard (U19119)
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comment by Ohnono (U22987)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 3 minutes ago
For myself the article posted by Diafol says what I feel about it, better than I can.
I do not believe for an instant it was role play, he was abusing her and threatened rape.
The recording has never been denied.
I hope he doesn't play for us anymore, beyond that I've no opinion.
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Just because you don't believe it, doesn't make it so.
And you dont know what explanation has been offered.
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Because one hasn’t been offered. Why is that? Mason’s PR would be all over it if it was something that shows him in a good light. You are in the same boat RDD.
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Got to agree with this. I've always maintained that there is a very very small chance that there could me a feasible explanation. But if there was one, why haven't we heard it by now? Doesn't look good.
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It's common practice not to comment during an enquiry/ investigation.
Let's be honest Elvis. If such an explanation was released, you would simply dismiss it as a PR excercise, so what would be the point?
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Lmao. A PR exercise would be better than nothing. I think the full record is available and its irredeemable. What he should have done was have the PR exercise on remorse and search for forgiveness.
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How exaclty would it be better?
The only ones demanding an explanation are those that don't accept the CPS decision, or trust the club (they support) to do the right thing
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I definitely don't trust the club. But they have a 50% chance of getting it right.
If they both agreed it was role play a joint statement ends it all.
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I think that ship has sailed, the case was dropped ages ago so he's had plenty of time to release a statement/explanation
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..but hasn’t. Not even a leak. Telling imo
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You do know the club are currently undertaking a process, right?
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comment by Ohnono (U22987)
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comment by Diafol Coch 77 (U2462)
posted 6 minutes ago
If my 24yo step-daughter came to me with that audio/video I'd tell her to leave her boyfriend and he'd be at the end of a few choice words.
Now, I wouldn't be able to do that with any authority if I supported Greenwood coming back.
It's as simple as that for me. CPS or not.
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And would you leave it at that, or try and get to the bottom of the audio and what was going on?
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I'd get to the bottom of it and still tell her that he's a waste of space.
If she decided she did still want to be with him she wouldn't be doing it with my blessing. However, I'd still love her though. Which is quite similar to what people have been saying on here about Greenwood and United.
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What if you were offered a hefty sum of cash to keep shtum?
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In all honesty, even though this is unlikely to happen to me, I'd by lying if a hefty sum didn't at least turn my head. I'd like to think I wouldn't take it of course but if it set me up for life...
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Oh dear.
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Why is that Oh dear? It's not the gotcha you think it is. I'm just being honest but I'd like to think, as stated, I'd turn it down.
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Its oh dear because it would be a shame for someone to put money before justice.
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If you can think badly of me for stating what I did above then, by default, you also have to accept that some people may well take payment to keep quite.
Which is where we are now I reckon...
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I dont/ didn't think badly of you though. I said it would be a shame.
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Yes, it would be a shame but money means more to some than morals. As this case is probably going to show I'm afraid.
I know you're playing Devil's Advocate here but surely you do see how bad this looks.
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comment by Redastomatoes- Feels very Moyesian...cleverson forever!If he is good enough he is ready! (U12026)
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comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 3 minutes ago
For myself the article posted by Diafol says what I feel about it, better than I can.
I do not believe for an instant it was role play, he was abusing her and threatened rape.
The recording has never been denied.
I hope he doesn't play for us anymore, beyond that I've no opinion.
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Just because you don't believe it, doesn't make it so.
And you dont know what explanation has been offered.
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Because one hasn’t been offered. Why is that? Mason’s PR would be all over it if it was something that shows him in a good light. You are in the same boat RDD.
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Got to agree with this. I've always maintained that there is a very very small chance that there could me a feasible explanation. But if there was one, why haven't we heard it by now? Doesn't look good.
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It's common practice not to comment during an enquiry/ investigation.
Let's be honest Elvis. If such an explanation was released, you would simply dismiss it as a PR excercise, so what would be the point?
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Lmao. A PR exercise would be better than nothing. I think the full record is available and its irredeemable. What he should have done was have the PR exercise on remorse and search for forgiveness.
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If he hadn't done anything wrong then why is he still with her? Most likely scenario is that the audio was what it sounded like. He's then got back with her, as tends to happen with domestic abuse, and got her pregnant to strengthen his position. A few brown envelopes have exchanged hands and here we are
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If it makes you feel better about being wrong about him doing 7-10 years đ
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comment by Roy's Keane (U11635)
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Puts his faith in the CPS unless it his daughter that's involved
And tell me if the CPS said your daughter was partly complicit would you still welcome her boyfriend back into your home
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What else can we conclude when the CPS say there is no chance of a conviction based on the body of evidence?
If it was my daughter I'd OBVIOUSLY have access to more information and be better placed to judge the situation.
Again, if you were being honest, you know this is correct.
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Way to miss the point
As for the question would you welcome the boyfriend back into your house even if your daughter was somehow complicit and it was confirmed by the CPS findings
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Way to miss the point.
If it were my daughter I wouldnt be reliant on just the CPS findings would I?
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I don't know
What if you don't get on and she won't speak to you
Would you just rely on the CPS decision
Would you welcome him back into your house even if she told you everything and the CPS decision was not to prosecute ?
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What has she told me?
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Is there anything your daughter could tell you that would have you welcome him back into your house ?
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I don't know.
WHat if it were your daughter and she told you she liked it rough?
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We are talking about your daughter in this scenario
And you are saying you don't know if you would welcome some cant that was being rough with your daughter back into your house
Pathetic
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I'm not prepared to answer your hypothetical questions unless you're willing to also.
The point stands. If I only had the CPS decision to go on. Then I'd have no choice but to accept it. If it were my child that wouldn't be the case, as you well know.
Idiot.
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A hypocrite or a pathetic excuse of a father
Take your choice
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Roy - like inside earlier. You are just making yourself looking either stupid or pig headed in not getting, or ignoring the explanation I and anyone else being honest, would offer.
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A pathetic excuse of a father it is then
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Oh no. Some n08 on the Internet thinks I'd be a bad dad because he is too thick to interpret his own imaginary scenario
đ
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You just said you don't know if you'd let some scvm bag back into your house who was rough with your daughter
Fackin wimp
Imagine having rdd as your father. Poor kid would be checking themselves into foster care at the first opportunity…
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comment by manusince52 (U9692)
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For myself the article posted by Diafol says what I feel about it, better than I can.
I do not believe for an instant it was role play, he was abusing her and threatened rape.
The recording has never been denied.
I hope he doesn't play for us anymore, beyond that I've no opinion.
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Just because you don't believe it, doesn't make it so.
And you dont know what explanation has been offered.
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Because one hasn’t been offered. Why is that? Mason’s PR would be all over it if it was something that shows him in a good light. You are in the same boat RDD.
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Got to agree with this. I've always maintained that there is a very very small chance that there could me a feasible explanation. But if there was one, why haven't we heard it by now? Doesn't look good.
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It's common practice not to comment during an enquiry/ investigation.
Let's be honest Elvis. If such an explanation was released, you would simply dismiss it as a PR excercise, so what would be the point?
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Lmao. A PR exercise would be better than nothing. I think the full record is available and its irredeemable. What he should have done was have the PR exercise on remorse and search for forgiveness.
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How exaclty would it be better?
The only ones demanding an explanation are those that don't accept the CPS decision, or trust the club (they support) to do the right thing
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I definitely don't trust the club. But they have a 50% chance of getting it right.
If they both agreed it was role play a joint statement ends it all.
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I think that ship has sailed, the case was dropped ages ago so he's had plenty of time to release a statement/explanation
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..but hasn’t. Not even a leak. Telling imo
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You do know the club are currently undertaking a process, right?
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Would have nothing to do with releasing a statement, especially if it was a full explanation, you really think the club would say "No mason you can't publicly clear your name". It would be much easier for the club if he had & had evidence to back it up
As far as my own morals go,
£1000 I'd be insulted
£10,00 I mean who do you think I am
€100,000 I'm 78, hoping for another ten years, £10,000 doesn't buy me.
£250,000 I'm your man, let me buy you a drink.
My morals are expensive.
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If my 24yo step-daughter came to me with that audio/video I'd tell her to leave her boyfriend and he'd be at the end of a few choice words.
Now, I wouldn't be able to do that with any authority if I supported Greenwood coming back.
It's as simple as that for me. CPS or not.
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And would you leave it at that, or try and get to the bottom of the audio and what was going on?
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I'd get to the bottom of it and still tell her that he's a waste of space.
If she decided she did still want to be with him she wouldn't be doing it with my blessing. However, I'd still love her though. Which is quite similar to what people have been saying on here about Greenwood and United.
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What if you were offered a hefty sum of cash to keep shtum?
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In all honesty, even though this is unlikely to happen to me, I'd by lying if a hefty sum didn't at least turn my head. I'd like to think I wouldn't take it of course but if it set me up for life...
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Oh dear.
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Why is that Oh dear? It's not the gotcha you think it is. I'm just being honest but I'd like to think, as stated, I'd turn it down.
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Its oh dear because it would be a shame for someone to put money before justice.
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If you can think badly of me for stating what I did above then, by default, you also have to accept that some people may well take payment to keep quite.
Which is where we are now I reckon...
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I dont/ didn't think badly of you though. I said it would be a shame.
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Yes, it would be a shame but money means more to some than morals. As this case is probably going to show I'm afraid.
I know you're playing Devil's Advocate here but surely you do see how bad this looks.
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How is this case going to show that?
A pay off Is just another made up explanation by those that were unable to consider there could be more to this than the audio suggested.
If he hadn't done anything wrong then why is he still with her?
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Crazy little thing called love?
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Puts his faith in the CPS unless it his daughter that's involved
And tell me if the CPS said your daughter was partly complicit would you still welcome her boyfriend back into your home
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What else can we conclude when the CPS say there is no chance of a conviction based on the body of evidence?
If it was my daughter I'd OBVIOUSLY have access to more information and be better placed to judge the situation.
Again, if you were being honest, you know this is correct.
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Way to miss the point
As for the question would you welcome the boyfriend back into your house even if your daughter was somehow complicit and it was confirmed by the CPS findings
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Way to miss the point.
If it were my daughter I wouldnt be reliant on just the CPS findings would I?
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I don't know
What if you don't get on and she won't speak to you
Would you just rely on the CPS decision
Would you welcome him back into your house even if she told you everything and the CPS decision was not to prosecute ?
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What has she told me?
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Is there anything your daughter could tell you that would have you welcome him back into your house ?
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I don't know.
WHat if it were your daughter and she told you she liked it rough?
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We are talking about your daughter in this scenario
And you are saying you don't know if you would welcome some cant that was being rough with your daughter back into your house
Pathetic
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I'm not prepared to answer your hypothetical questions unless you're willing to also.
The point stands. If I only had the CPS decision to go on. Then I'd have no choice but to accept it. If it were my child that wouldn't be the case, as you well know.
Idiot.
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A hypocrite or a pathetic excuse of a father
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Roy - like inside earlier. You are just making yourself looking either stupid or pig headed in not getting, or ignoring the explanation I and anyone else being honest, would offer.
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A pathetic excuse of a father it is then
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Oh no. Some n08 on the Internet thinks I'd be a bad dad because he is too thick to interpret his own imaginary scenario
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You just said you don't know if you'd let some scvm bag back into your house who was rough with your daughter
Fackin wimp
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Daughter? Bugatti? daughter? Bugatti?
Bugatti.
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Puts his faith in the CPS unless it his daughter that's involved
And tell me if the CPS said your daughter was partly complicit would you still welcome her boyfriend back into your home
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What else can we conclude when the CPS say there is no chance of a conviction based on the body of evidence?
If it was my daughter I'd OBVIOUSLY have access to more information and be better placed to judge the situation.
Again, if you were being honest, you know this is correct.
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Way to miss the point
As for the question would you welcome the boyfriend back into your house even if your daughter was somehow complicit and it was confirmed by the CPS findings
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Way to miss the point.
If it were my daughter I wouldnt be reliant on just the CPS findings would I?
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I don't know
What if you don't get on and she won't speak to you
Would you just rely on the CPS decision
Would you welcome him back into your house even if she told you everything and the CPS decision was not to prosecute ?
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What has she told me?
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Is there anything your daughter could tell you that would have you welcome him back into your house ?
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I don't know.
WHat if it were your daughter and she told you she liked it rough?
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We are talking about your daughter in this scenario
And you are saying you don't know if you would welcome some cant that was being rough with your daughter back into your house
Pathetic
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I'm not prepared to answer your hypothetical questions unless you're willing to also.
The point stands. If I only had the CPS decision to go on. Then I'd have no choice but to accept it. If it were my child that wouldn't be the case, as you well know.
Idiot.
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A hypocrite or a pathetic excuse of a father
Take your choice
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Roy - like inside earlier. You are just making yourself looking either stupid or pig headed in not getting, or ignoring the explanation I and anyone else being honest, would offer.
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A pathetic excuse of a father it is then
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Oh no. Some n08 on the Internet thinks I'd be a bad dad because he is too thick to interpret his own imaginary scenario
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You just said you don't know if you'd let some scvm bag back into your house who was rough with your daughter
Fackin wimp
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Do they not teach you to read on the farm ?
I didnt once say that
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As far as my own morals go,
£1000 I'd be insulted
£10,00 I mean who do you think I am
€100,000 I'm 78, hoping for another ten years, £10,000 doesn't buy me.
£250,000 I'm your man, let me buy you a drink.
My morals are expensive.
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“Churchill: "Madam, would you sleep with me for five million pounds?"
Socialite: "My goodness, Mr. Churchill... Well, I suppose... we would have to discuss terms, of course... "
Churchill: "Would you sleep with me for five pounds?"
Socialite: "Mr. Churchill, what kind of woman do you think I am?!"
Churchill: "Madam, we've already established that. Now we are haggling about the price.”
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Puts his faith in the CPS unless it his daughter that's involved
And tell me if the CPS said your daughter was partly complicit would you still welcome her boyfriend back into your home
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What else can we conclude when the CPS say there is no chance of a conviction based on the body of evidence?
If it was my daughter I'd OBVIOUSLY have access to more information and be better placed to judge the situation.
Again, if you were being honest, you know this is correct.
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Way to miss the point
As for the question would you welcome the boyfriend back into your house even if your daughter was somehow complicit and it was confirmed by the CPS findings
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Way to miss the point.
If it were my daughter I wouldnt be reliant on just the CPS findings would I?
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I don't know
What if you don't get on and she won't speak to you
Would you just rely on the CPS decision
Would you welcome him back into your house even if she told you everything and the CPS decision was not to prosecute ?
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What has she told me?
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Is there anything your daughter could tell you that would have you welcome him back into your house ?
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I don't know.
WHat if it were your daughter and she told you she liked it rough?
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We are talking about your daughter in this scenario
And you are saying you don't know if you would welcome some cant that was being rough with your daughter back into your house
Pathetic
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I'm not prepared to answer your hypothetical questions unless you're willing to also.
The point stands. If I only had the CPS decision to go on. Then I'd have no choice but to accept it. If it were my child that wouldn't be the case, as you well know.
Idiot.
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A hypocrite or a pathetic excuse of a father
Take your choice
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Roy - like inside earlier. You are just making yourself looking either stupid or pig headed in not getting, or ignoring the explanation I and anyone else being honest, would offer.
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A pathetic excuse of a father it is then
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Oh no. Some n08 on the Internet thinks I'd be a bad dad because he is too thick to interpret his own imaginary scenario
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You just said you don't know if you'd let some scvm bag back into your house who was rough with your daughter
Fackin wimp
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Daughter? Bugatti? daughter? Bugatti?
Bugatti.
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If my 24yo step-daughter came to me with that audio/video I'd tell her to leave her boyfriend and he'd be at the end of a few choice words.
Now, I wouldn't be able to do that with any authority if I supported Greenwood coming back.
It's as simple as that for me. CPS or not.
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And would you leave it at that, or try and get to the bottom of the audio and what was going on?
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I'd get to the bottom of it and still tell her that he's a waste of space.
If she decided she did still want to be with him she wouldn't be doing it with my blessing. However, I'd still love her though. Which is quite similar to what people have been saying on here about Greenwood and United.
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What if you were offered a hefty sum of cash to keep shtum?
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In all honesty, even though this is unlikely to happen to me, I'd by lying if a hefty sum didn't at least turn my head. I'd like to think I wouldn't take it of course but if it set me up for life...
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Oh dear.
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Why is that Oh dear? It's not the gotcha you think it is. I'm just being honest but I'd like to think, as stated, I'd turn it down.
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Its oh dear because it would be a shame for someone to put money before justice.
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If you can think badly of me for stating what I did above then, by default, you also have to accept that some people may well take payment to keep quite.
Which is where we are now I reckon...
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I dont/ didn't think badly of you though. I said it would be a shame.
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Yes, it would be a shame but money means more to some than morals. As this case is probably going to show I'm afraid.
I know you're playing Devil's Advocate here but surely you do see how bad this looks.
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How is this case going to show that?
A pay off Is just another made up explanation by those that were unable to consider there could be more to this than the audio suggested.
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What more?
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If he hadn't done anything wrong then why is he still with her?
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Crazy little thing called love?
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If my 24yo step-daughter came to me with that audio/video I'd tell her to leave her boyfriend and he'd be at the end of a few choice words.
Now, I wouldn't be able to do that with any authority if I supported Greenwood coming back.
It's as simple as that for me. CPS or not.
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And would you leave it at that, or try and get to the bottom of the audio and what was going on?
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I'd get to the bottom of it and still tell her that he's a waste of space.
If she decided she did still want to be with him she wouldn't be doing it with my blessing. However, I'd still love her though. Which is quite similar to what people have been saying on here about Greenwood and United.
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What if you were offered a hefty sum of cash to keep shtum?
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In all honesty, even though this is unlikely to happen to me, I'd by lying if a hefty sum didn't at least turn my head. I'd like to think I wouldn't take it of course but if it set me up for life...
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Oh dear.
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Why is that Oh dear? It's not the gotcha you think it is. I'm just being honest but I'd like to think, as stated, I'd turn it down.
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Its oh dear because it would be a shame for someone to put money before justice.
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If you can think badly of me for stating what I did above then, by default, you also have to accept that some people may well take payment to keep quite.
Which is where we are now I reckon...
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For myself the article posted by Diafol says what I feel about it, better than I can.
I do not believe for an instant it was role play, he was abusing her and threatened rape.
The recording has never been denied.
I hope he doesn't play for us anymore, beyond that I've no opinion.
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Just because you don't believe it, doesn't make it so.
And you dont know what explanation has been offered.
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Because one hasn’t been offered. Why is that? Mason’s PR would be all over it if it was something that shows him in a good light. You are in the same boat RDD.
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Got to agree with this. I've always maintained that there is a very very small chance that there could me a feasible explanation. But if there was one, why haven't we heard it by now? Doesn't look good.
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It's common practice not to comment during an enquiry/ investigation.
Let's be honest Elvis. If such an explanation was released, you would simply dismiss it as a PR excercise, so what would be the point?
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Lmao. A PR exercise would be better than nothing. I think the full record is available and its irredeemable. What he should have done was have the PR exercise on remorse and search for forgiveness.
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How exaclty would it be better?
The only ones demanding an explanation are those that don't accept the CPS decision, or trust the club (they support) to do the right thing
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I definitely don't trust the club. But they have a 50% chance of getting it right.
If they both agreed it was role play a joint statement ends it all.
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I think that ship has sailed, the case was dropped ages ago so he's had plenty of time to release a statement/explanation
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Puts his faith in the CPS unless it his daughter that's involved
And tell me if the CPS said your daughter was partly complicit would you still welcome her boyfriend back into your home
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What else can we conclude when the CPS say there is no chance of a conviction based on the body of evidence?
If it was my daughter I'd OBVIOUSLY have access to more information and be better placed to judge the situation.
Again, if you were being honest, you know this is correct.
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Way to miss the point
As for the question would you welcome the boyfriend back into your house even if your daughter was somehow complicit and it was confirmed by the CPS findings
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Way to miss the point.
If it were my daughter I wouldnt be reliant on just the CPS findings would I?
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I don't know
What if you don't get on and she won't speak to you
Would you just rely on the CPS decision
Would you welcome him back into your house even if she told you everything and the CPS decision was not to prosecute ?
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What has she told me?
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Is there anything your daughter could tell you that would have you welcome him back into your house ?
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I don't know.
WHat if it were your daughter and she told you she liked it rough?
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We are talking about your daughter in this scenario
And you are saying you don't know if you would welcome some cant that was being rough with your daughter back into your house
Pathetic
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I'm not prepared to answer your hypothetical questions unless you're willing to also.
The point stands. If I only had the CPS decision to go on. Then I'd have no choice but to accept it. If it were my child that wouldn't be the case, as you well know.
Idiot.
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A hypocrite or a pathetic excuse of a father
Take your choice
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Roy - like inside earlier. You are just making yourself looking either stupid or pig headed in not getting, or ignoring the explanation I and anyone else being honest, would offer.
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A pathetic excuse of a father it is then
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For myself the article posted by Diafol says what I feel about it, better than I can.
I do not believe for an instant it was role play, he was abusing her and threatened rape.
The recording has never been denied.
I hope he doesn't play for us anymore, beyond that I've no opinion.
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Just because you don't believe it, doesn't make it so.
And you dont know what explanation has been offered.
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Because one hasn’t been offered. Why is that? Mason’s PR would be all over it if it was something that shows him in a good light. You are in the same boat RDD.
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Got to agree with this. I've always maintained that there is a very very small chance that there could me a feasible explanation. But if there was one, why haven't we heard it by now? Doesn't look good.
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It's common practice not to comment during an enquiry/ investigation.
Let's be honest Elvis. If such an explanation was released, you would simply dismiss it as a PR excercise, so what would be the point?
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Lmao. A PR exercise would be better than nothing. I think the full record is available and its irredeemable. What he should have done was have the PR exercise on remorse and search for forgiveness.
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How exaclty would it be better?
The only ones demanding an explanation are those that don't accept the CPS decision, or trust the club (they support) to do the right thing
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I definitely don't trust the club. But they have a 50% chance of getting it right.
If they both agreed it was role play a joint statement ends it all.
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I think that ship has sailed, the case was dropped ages ago so he's had plenty of time to release a statement/explanation
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..but hasn’t. Not even a leak. Telling imo
posted on 12/8/23
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This is getting daft now and going nowhere.
Fact. In law, it means the truth about events as opposed to interpretation.
Fact. Nobody really knows the truth about any of these events. This includes opinions on all sides of the Greenwood arguement.
Because we aint going to get the truth from anybody connected and involved with the case (and why should they), its probably best if Man United respected their supporters and stakeholders and end their relationship with Greenwood. I cant see how United can move on with him, without making a lot of people unhappy. He's just not worth it. Guilty or innocent.
PS I think that RDD is either an actual deviant fantasist or a very, very persistent wind-up-merchant.
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The irony is that you partly agree with my view that none of us know the full facts, and neither should we.
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If my 24yo step-daughter came to me with that audio/video I'd tell her to leave her boyfriend and he'd be at the end of a few choice words.
Now, I wouldn't be able to do that with any authority if I supported Greenwood coming back.
It's as simple as that for me. CPS or not.
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And would you leave it at that, or try and get to the bottom of the audio and what was going on?
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I'd get to the bottom of it and still tell her that he's a waste of space.
If she decided she did still want to be with him she wouldn't be doing it with my blessing. However, I'd still love her though. Which is quite similar to what people have been saying on here about Greenwood and United.
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What if you were offered a hefty sum of cash to keep shtum?
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In all honesty, even though this is unlikely to happen to me, I'd by lying if a hefty sum didn't at least turn my head. I'd like to think I wouldn't take it of course but if it set me up for life...
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Oh dear.
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Why is that Oh dear? It's not the gotcha you think it is. I'm just being honest but I'd like to think, as stated, I'd turn it down.
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Its oh dear because it would be a shame for someone to put money before justice.
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If you can think badly of me for stating what I did above then, by default, you also have to accept that some people may well take payment to keep quite.
Which is where we are now I reckon...
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I wouldn't blame people in certain scenarios that take the money, especially if it's life changing. Given the relatively low conviction rate for sexx crimes, you could go through it all and still not receive justice. I'm not saying it's the right thing to do but I do understand it
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If my 24yo step-daughter came to me with that audio/video I'd tell her to leave her boyfriend and he'd be at the end of a few choice words.
Now, I wouldn't be able to do that with any authority if I supported Greenwood coming back.
It's as simple as that for me. CPS or not.
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And would you leave it at that, or try and get to the bottom of the audio and what was going on?
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I'd get to the bottom of it and still tell her that he's a waste of space.
If she decided she did still want to be with him she wouldn't be doing it with my blessing. However, I'd still love her though. Which is quite similar to what people have been saying on here about Greenwood and United.
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What if you were offered a hefty sum of cash to keep shtum?
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In all honesty, even though this is unlikely to happen to me, I'd by lying if a hefty sum didn't at least turn my head. I'd like to think I wouldn't take it of course but if it set me up for life...
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Oh dear.
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Why is that Oh dear? It's not the gotcha you think it is. I'm just being honest but I'd like to think, as stated, I'd turn it down.
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Its oh dear because it would be a shame for someone to put money before justice.
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If you can think badly of me for stating what I did above then, by default, you also have to accept that some people may well take payment to keep quite.
Which is where we are now I reckon...
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I dont/ didn't think badly of you though. I said it would be a shame.
posted on 12/8/23
comment by Redastomatoes- Feels very Moyesian...cleverson forever!If he is good enough he is ready! (U12026)
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comment by Ohnono (U22987)
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For myself the article posted by Diafol says what I feel about it, better than I can.
I do not believe for an instant it was role play, he was abusing her and threatened rape.
The recording has never been denied.
I hope he doesn't play for us anymore, beyond that I've no opinion.
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Just because you don't believe it, doesn't make it so.
And you dont know what explanation has been offered.
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Because one hasn’t been offered. Why is that? Mason’s PR would be all over it if it was something that shows him in a good light. You are in the same boat RDD.
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Got to agree with this. I've always maintained that there is a very very small chance that there could me a feasible explanation. But if there was one, why haven't we heard it by now? Doesn't look good.
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It's common practice not to comment during an enquiry/ investigation.
Let's be honest Elvis. If such an explanation was released, you would simply dismiss it as a PR excercise, so what would be the point?
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Lmao. A PR exercise would be better than nothing. I think the full record is available and its irredeemable. What he should have done was have the PR exercise on remorse and search for forgiveness.
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If he hadn't done anything wrong then why is he still with her? Most likely scenario is that the audio was what it sounded like. He's then got back with her, as tends to happen with domestic abuse, and got her pregnant to strengthen his position. A few brown envelopes have exchanged hands and here we are
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Puts his faith in the CPS unless it his daughter that's involved
And tell me if the CPS said your daughter was partly complicit would you still welcome her boyfriend back into your home
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What else can we conclude when the CPS say there is no chance of a conviction based on the body of evidence?
If it was my daughter I'd OBVIOUSLY have access to more information and be better placed to judge the situation.
Again, if you were being honest, you know this is correct.
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Way to miss the point
As for the question would you welcome the boyfriend back into your house even if your daughter was somehow complicit and it was confirmed by the CPS findings
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Way to miss the point.
If it were my daughter I wouldnt be reliant on just the CPS findings would I?
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I don't know
What if you don't get on and she won't speak to you
Would you just rely on the CPS decision
Would you welcome him back into your house even if she told you everything and the CPS decision was not to prosecute ?
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What has she told me?
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Is there anything your daughter could tell you that would have you welcome him back into your house ?
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I don't know.
WHat if it were your daughter and she told you she liked it rough?
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We are talking about your daughter in this scenario
And you are saying you don't know if you would welcome some cant that was being rough with your daughter back into your house
Pathetic
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I'm not prepared to answer your hypothetical questions unless you're willing to also.
The point stands. If I only had the CPS decision to go on. Then I'd have no choice but to accept it. If it were my child that wouldn't be the case, as you well know.
Idiot.
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A hypocrite or a pathetic excuse of a father
Take your choice
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Roy - like inside earlier. You are just making yourself looking either stupid or pig headed in not getting, or ignoring the explanation I and anyone else being honest, would offer.
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A pathetic excuse of a father it is then
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Oh no. Some n08 on the Internet thinks I'd be a bad dad because he is too thick to interpret his own imaginary scenario
đ
posted on 12/8/23
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For myself the article posted by Diafol says what I feel about it, better than I can.
I do not believe for an instant it was role play, he was abusing her and threatened rape.
The recording has never been denied.
I hope he doesn't play for us anymore, beyond that I've no opinion.
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Just because you don't believe it, doesn't make it so.
And you dont know what explanation has been offered.
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Because one hasn’t been offered. Why is that? Mason’s PR would be all over it if it was something that shows him in a good light. You are in the same boat RDD.
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Got to agree with this. I've always maintained that there is a very very small chance that there could me a feasible explanation. But if there was one, why haven't we heard it by now? Doesn't look good.
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It's common practice not to comment during an enquiry/ investigation.
Let's be honest Elvis. If such an explanation was released, you would simply dismiss it as a PR excercise, so what would be the point?
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Lmao. A PR exercise would be better than nothing. I think the full record is available and its irredeemable. What he should have done was have the PR exercise on remorse and search for forgiveness.
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How exaclty would it be better?
The only ones demanding an explanation are those that don't accept the CPS decision, or trust the club (they support) to do the right thing
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I definitely don't trust the club. But they have a 50% chance of getting it right.
If they both agreed it was role play a joint statement ends it all.
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I think that ship has sailed, the case was dropped ages ago so he's had plenty of time to release a statement/explanation
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..but hasn’t. Not even a leak. Telling imo
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You do know the club are currently undertaking a process, right?
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comment by Diafol Coch 77 (U2462)
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If my 24yo step-daughter came to me with that audio/video I'd tell her to leave her boyfriend and he'd be at the end of a few choice words.
Now, I wouldn't be able to do that with any authority if I supported Greenwood coming back.
It's as simple as that for me. CPS or not.
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And would you leave it at that, or try and get to the bottom of the audio and what was going on?
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I'd get to the bottom of it and still tell her that he's a waste of space.
If she decided she did still want to be with him she wouldn't be doing it with my blessing. However, I'd still love her though. Which is quite similar to what people have been saying on here about Greenwood and United.
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What if you were offered a hefty sum of cash to keep shtum?
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In all honesty, even though this is unlikely to happen to me, I'd by lying if a hefty sum didn't at least turn my head. I'd like to think I wouldn't take it of course but if it set me up for life...
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Oh dear.
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Why is that Oh dear? It's not the gotcha you think it is. I'm just being honest but I'd like to think, as stated, I'd turn it down.
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Its oh dear because it would be a shame for someone to put money before justice.
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If you can think badly of me for stating what I did above then, by default, you also have to accept that some people may well take payment to keep quite.
Which is where we are now I reckon...
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I dont/ didn't think badly of you though. I said it would be a shame.
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Yes, it would be a shame but money means more to some than morals. As this case is probably going to show I'm afraid.
I know you're playing Devil's Advocate here but surely you do see how bad this looks.
posted on 12/8/23
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posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Redastomatoes- Feels very Moyesian...cleverson forever!If he is good enough he is ready! (U12026)
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For myself the article posted by Diafol says what I feel about it, better than I can.
I do not believe for an instant it was role play, he was abusing her and threatened rape.
The recording has never been denied.
I hope he doesn't play for us anymore, beyond that I've no opinion.
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Just because you don't believe it, doesn't make it so.
And you dont know what explanation has been offered.
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Because one hasn’t been offered. Why is that? Mason’s PR would be all over it if it was something that shows him in a good light. You are in the same boat RDD.
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Got to agree with this. I've always maintained that there is a very very small chance that there could me a feasible explanation. But if there was one, why haven't we heard it by now? Doesn't look good.
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It's common practice not to comment during an enquiry/ investigation.
Let's be honest Elvis. If such an explanation was released, you would simply dismiss it as a PR excercise, so what would be the point?
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Lmao. A PR exercise would be better than nothing. I think the full record is available and its irredeemable. What he should have done was have the PR exercise on remorse and search for forgiveness.
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If he hadn't done anything wrong then why is he still with her? Most likely scenario is that the audio was what it sounded like. He's then got back with her, as tends to happen with domestic abuse, and got her pregnant to strengthen his position. A few brown envelopes have exchanged hands and here we are
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If it makes you feel better about being wrong about him doing 7-10 years đ
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Puts his faith in the CPS unless it his daughter that's involved
And tell me if the CPS said your daughter was partly complicit would you still welcome her boyfriend back into your home
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What else can we conclude when the CPS say there is no chance of a conviction based on the body of evidence?
If it was my daughter I'd OBVIOUSLY have access to more information and be better placed to judge the situation.
Again, if you were being honest, you know this is correct.
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Way to miss the point
As for the question would you welcome the boyfriend back into your house even if your daughter was somehow complicit and it was confirmed by the CPS findings
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Way to miss the point.
If it were my daughter I wouldnt be reliant on just the CPS findings would I?
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I don't know
What if you don't get on and she won't speak to you
Would you just rely on the CPS decision
Would you welcome him back into your house even if she told you everything and the CPS decision was not to prosecute ?
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What has she told me?
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Is there anything your daughter could tell you that would have you welcome him back into your house ?
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I don't know.
WHat if it were your daughter and she told you she liked it rough?
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We are talking about your daughter in this scenario
And you are saying you don't know if you would welcome some cant that was being rough with your daughter back into your house
Pathetic
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I'm not prepared to answer your hypothetical questions unless you're willing to also.
The point stands. If I only had the CPS decision to go on. Then I'd have no choice but to accept it. If it were my child that wouldn't be the case, as you well know.
Idiot.
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A hypocrite or a pathetic excuse of a father
Take your choice
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Roy - like inside earlier. You are just making yourself looking either stupid or pig headed in not getting, or ignoring the explanation I and anyone else being honest, would offer.
--------
A pathetic excuse of a father it is then
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Oh no. Some n08 on the Internet thinks I'd be a bad dad because he is too thick to interpret his own imaginary scenario
đ
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You just said you don't know if you'd let some scvm bag back into your house who was rough with your daughter
Fackin wimp
posted on 12/8/23
Imagine having rdd as your father. Poor kid would be checking themselves into foster care at the first opportunity…
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For myself the article posted by Diafol says what I feel about it, better than I can.
I do not believe for an instant it was role play, he was abusing her and threatened rape.
The recording has never been denied.
I hope he doesn't play for us anymore, beyond that I've no opinion.
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Just because you don't believe it, doesn't make it so.
And you dont know what explanation has been offered.
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Because one hasn’t been offered. Why is that? Mason’s PR would be all over it if it was something that shows him in a good light. You are in the same boat RDD.
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Got to agree with this. I've always maintained that there is a very very small chance that there could me a feasible explanation. But if there was one, why haven't we heard it by now? Doesn't look good.
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It's common practice not to comment during an enquiry/ investigation.
Let's be honest Elvis. If such an explanation was released, you would simply dismiss it as a PR excercise, so what would be the point?
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Lmao. A PR exercise would be better than nothing. I think the full record is available and its irredeemable. What he should have done was have the PR exercise on remorse and search for forgiveness.
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How exaclty would it be better?
The only ones demanding an explanation are those that don't accept the CPS decision, or trust the club (they support) to do the right thing
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I definitely don't trust the club. But they have a 50% chance of getting it right.
If they both agreed it was role play a joint statement ends it all.
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I think that ship has sailed, the case was dropped ages ago so he's had plenty of time to release a statement/explanation
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..but hasn’t. Not even a leak. Telling imo
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You do know the club are currently undertaking a process, right?
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Would have nothing to do with releasing a statement, especially if it was a full explanation, you really think the club would say "No mason you can't publicly clear your name". It would be much easier for the club if he had & had evidence to back it up
posted on 12/8/23
As far as my own morals go,
£1000 I'd be insulted
£10,00 I mean who do you think I am
€100,000 I'm 78, hoping for another ten years, £10,000 doesn't buy me.
£250,000 I'm your man, let me buy you a drink.
My morals are expensive.
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If my 24yo step-daughter came to me with that audio/video I'd tell her to leave her boyfriend and he'd be at the end of a few choice words.
Now, I wouldn't be able to do that with any authority if I supported Greenwood coming back.
It's as simple as that for me. CPS or not.
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And would you leave it at that, or try and get to the bottom of the audio and what was going on?
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I'd get to the bottom of it and still tell her that he's a waste of space.
If she decided she did still want to be with him she wouldn't be doing it with my blessing. However, I'd still love her though. Which is quite similar to what people have been saying on here about Greenwood and United.
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What if you were offered a hefty sum of cash to keep shtum?
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In all honesty, even though this is unlikely to happen to me, I'd by lying if a hefty sum didn't at least turn my head. I'd like to think I wouldn't take it of course but if it set me up for life...
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Oh dear.
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Why is that Oh dear? It's not the gotcha you think it is. I'm just being honest but I'd like to think, as stated, I'd turn it down.
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Its oh dear because it would be a shame for someone to put money before justice.
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If you can think badly of me for stating what I did above then, by default, you also have to accept that some people may well take payment to keep quite.
Which is where we are now I reckon...
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I dont/ didn't think badly of you though. I said it would be a shame.
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Yes, it would be a shame but money means more to some than morals. As this case is probably going to show I'm afraid.
I know you're playing Devil's Advocate here but surely you do see how bad this looks.
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How is this case going to show that?
A pay off Is just another made up explanation by those that were unable to consider there could be more to this than the audio suggested.
posted on 12/8/23
If he hadn't done anything wrong then why is he still with her?
——-
Crazy little thing called love?
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Puts his faith in the CPS unless it his daughter that's involved
And tell me if the CPS said your daughter was partly complicit would you still welcome her boyfriend back into your home
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What else can we conclude when the CPS say there is no chance of a conviction based on the body of evidence?
If it was my daughter I'd OBVIOUSLY have access to more information and be better placed to judge the situation.
Again, if you were being honest, you know this is correct.
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Way to miss the point
As for the question would you welcome the boyfriend back into your house even if your daughter was somehow complicit and it was confirmed by the CPS findings
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Way to miss the point.
If it were my daughter I wouldnt be reliant on just the CPS findings would I?
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I don't know
What if you don't get on and she won't speak to you
Would you just rely on the CPS decision
Would you welcome him back into your house even if she told you everything and the CPS decision was not to prosecute ?
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What has she told me?
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Is there anything your daughter could tell you that would have you welcome him back into your house ?
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I don't know.
WHat if it were your daughter and she told you she liked it rough?
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We are talking about your daughter in this scenario
And you are saying you don't know if you would welcome some cant that was being rough with your daughter back into your house
Pathetic
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I'm not prepared to answer your hypothetical questions unless you're willing to also.
The point stands. If I only had the CPS decision to go on. Then I'd have no choice but to accept it. If it were my child that wouldn't be the case, as you well know.
Idiot.
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A hypocrite or a pathetic excuse of a father
Take your choice
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Roy - like inside earlier. You are just making yourself looking either stupid or pig headed in not getting, or ignoring the explanation I and anyone else being honest, would offer.
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A pathetic excuse of a father it is then
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Oh no. Some n08 on the Internet thinks I'd be a bad dad because he is too thick to interpret his own imaginary scenario
đ
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You just said you don't know if you'd let some scvm bag back into your house who was rough with your daughter
Fackin wimp
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Daughter? Bugatti? daughter? Bugatti?
Bugatti.
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comment by Roy's Keane (U11635)
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Puts his faith in the CPS unless it his daughter that's involved
And tell me if the CPS said your daughter was partly complicit would you still welcome her boyfriend back into your home
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What else can we conclude when the CPS say there is no chance of a conviction based on the body of evidence?
If it was my daughter I'd OBVIOUSLY have access to more information and be better placed to judge the situation.
Again, if you were being honest, you know this is correct.
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Way to miss the point
As for the question would you welcome the boyfriend back into your house even if your daughter was somehow complicit and it was confirmed by the CPS findings
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Way to miss the point.
If it were my daughter I wouldnt be reliant on just the CPS findings would I?
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I don't know
What if you don't get on and she won't speak to you
Would you just rely on the CPS decision
Would you welcome him back into your house even if she told you everything and the CPS decision was not to prosecute ?
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What has she told me?
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Is there anything your daughter could tell you that would have you welcome him back into your house ?
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I don't know.
WHat if it were your daughter and she told you she liked it rough?
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We are talking about your daughter in this scenario
And you are saying you don't know if you would welcome some cant that was being rough with your daughter back into your house
Pathetic
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I'm not prepared to answer your hypothetical questions unless you're willing to also.
The point stands. If I only had the CPS decision to go on. Then I'd have no choice but to accept it. If it were my child that wouldn't be the case, as you well know.
Idiot.
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A hypocrite or a pathetic excuse of a father
Take your choice
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Roy - like inside earlier. You are just making yourself looking either stupid or pig headed in not getting, or ignoring the explanation I and anyone else being honest, would offer.
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A pathetic excuse of a father it is then
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Oh no. Some n08 on the Internet thinks I'd be a bad dad because he is too thick to interpret his own imaginary scenario
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You just said you don't know if you'd let some scvm bag back into your house who was rough with your daughter
Fackin wimp
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Do they not teach you to read on the farm ?
I didnt once say that
posted on 12/8/23
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 28 seconds ago
As far as my own morals go,
£1000 I'd be insulted
£10,00 I mean who do you think I am
€100,000 I'm 78, hoping for another ten years, £10,000 doesn't buy me.
£250,000 I'm your man, let me buy you a drink.
My morals are expensive.
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“Churchill: "Madam, would you sleep with me for five million pounds?"
Socialite: "My goodness, Mr. Churchill... Well, I suppose... we would have to discuss terms, of course... "
Churchill: "Would you sleep with me for five pounds?"
Socialite: "Mr. Churchill, what kind of woman do you think I am?!"
Churchill: "Madam, we've already established that. Now we are haggling about the price.”
posted on 12/8/23
comment by Baz tard (U19119)
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Puts his faith in the CPS unless it his daughter that's involved
And tell me if the CPS said your daughter was partly complicit would you still welcome her boyfriend back into your home
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What else can we conclude when the CPS say there is no chance of a conviction based on the body of evidence?
If it was my daughter I'd OBVIOUSLY have access to more information and be better placed to judge the situation.
Again, if you were being honest, you know this is correct.
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Way to miss the point
As for the question would you welcome the boyfriend back into your house even if your daughter was somehow complicit and it was confirmed by the CPS findings
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Way to miss the point.
If it were my daughter I wouldnt be reliant on just the CPS findings would I?
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I don't know
What if you don't get on and she won't speak to you
Would you just rely on the CPS decision
Would you welcome him back into your house even if she told you everything and the CPS decision was not to prosecute ?
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What has she told me?
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Is there anything your daughter could tell you that would have you welcome him back into your house ?
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I don't know.
WHat if it were your daughter and she told you she liked it rough?
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We are talking about your daughter in this scenario
And you are saying you don't know if you would welcome some cant that was being rough with your daughter back into your house
Pathetic
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I'm not prepared to answer your hypothetical questions unless you're willing to also.
The point stands. If I only had the CPS decision to go on. Then I'd have no choice but to accept it. If it were my child that wouldn't be the case, as you well know.
Idiot.
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A hypocrite or a pathetic excuse of a father
Take your choice
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Roy - like inside earlier. You are just making yourself looking either stupid or pig headed in not getting, or ignoring the explanation I and anyone else being honest, would offer.
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A pathetic excuse of a father it is then
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Oh no. Some n08 on the Internet thinks I'd be a bad dad because he is too thick to interpret his own imaginary scenario
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You just said you don't know if you'd let some scvm bag back into your house who was rough with your daughter
Fackin wimp
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Daughter? Bugatti? daughter? Bugatti?
Bugatti.
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posted on 12/8/23
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If my 24yo step-daughter came to me with that audio/video I'd tell her to leave her boyfriend and he'd be at the end of a few choice words.
Now, I wouldn't be able to do that with any authority if I supported Greenwood coming back.
It's as simple as that for me. CPS or not.
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And would you leave it at that, or try and get to the bottom of the audio and what was going on?
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I'd get to the bottom of it and still tell her that he's a waste of space.
If she decided she did still want to be with him she wouldn't be doing it with my blessing. However, I'd still love her though. Which is quite similar to what people have been saying on here about Greenwood and United.
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What if you were offered a hefty sum of cash to keep shtum?
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In all honesty, even though this is unlikely to happen to me, I'd by lying if a hefty sum didn't at least turn my head. I'd like to think I wouldn't take it of course but if it set me up for life...
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Oh dear.
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Why is that Oh dear? It's not the gotcha you think it is. I'm just being honest but I'd like to think, as stated, I'd turn it down.
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Its oh dear because it would be a shame for someone to put money before justice.
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If you can think badly of me for stating what I did above then, by default, you also have to accept that some people may well take payment to keep quite.
Which is where we are now I reckon...
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I dont/ didn't think badly of you though. I said it would be a shame.
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Yes, it would be a shame but money means more to some than morals. As this case is probably going to show I'm afraid.
I know you're playing Devil's Advocate here but surely you do see how bad this looks.
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How is this case going to show that?
A pay off Is just another made up explanation by those that were unable to consider there could be more to this than the audio suggested.
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What more?
posted on 12/8/23
comment by Shinjury list (U1700)
posted 2 minutes ago
If he hadn't done anything wrong then why is he still with her?
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Crazy little thing called love?
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There goes my baby
She knows how to rock and roll
She drives me crazy
She gives me hot and cold fever
She leaves me in a cool, cool sweat
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