also feel it's worth noting that the CPS dropped the case after the witness pulled out. That's the ONLY reason and it happened after he broke his bail conditions.
———/—
If I remember correctly, the CPS stated they dropped the case because of the withdrawal of a key witness AND new material coming to light.
comment by _Viva_Vida (U6044)
posted 8 seconds ago
also feel it's worth noting that the CPS dropped the case after the witness pulled out. That's the ONLY reason and it happened after he broke his bail conditions.
———/—
If I remember correctly, the CPS stated they dropped the case because of the withdrawal of a key witness AND new material coming to light.
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Which is probably much the same thing, withdraw and provide a new statement as ‘new evidence’ clearing him.
comment by Redastomatoes- Feels very Moyesian...cleverson forever!If he is good enough he is ready! (U12026)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by T-SaliBAG (U11806)
posted 3 minutes ago
Harriet's Dad was TeamGreenwood from Day 1.
If that had been my daughter I would have run the khunt over, not tried to defend him.
_____________
Yeah it was honestly shocking to hear that he could possibly take that opinion.
Then Greenwood breaks his bail and she suddenly retracts her complaint.
Then when the club investigate they only talk to the mum.
It doesn't look very good at all so if there was an explanation, I don't know why both Greenwood and the club wouldn't want it clear.
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Because it doesn't make him anyone look better. But not believing that's possible must be hard
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Sorry, I don't really understand what you mean
comment by Baz tard (U19119)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 10 seconds ago
Lmao! You dont know sheite. He would have a very good civil suit with plenty of money if he was found guilty. Not even believing a father of a woman prefers to have his wife marry her assaulter ( because a lot of fathers have done this too)
It wi take to.e, but this twitter thinking pass
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Good grief, he said her phone had neen hacked and expected everyone to say "Oh well, that makes it ok then"
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The phone hacking thing makes no sense, I mean it’s not exactly easy to hack a modern phone, so why would anyone spend the time targeting that particular phone? Makes no sense at all
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In the very unlikely event of the phone being hacked, it doesn't alter the fact there were some quite gruesome images and audio on it.
I'm surprised he didn't say the videos had been altered by CGI and actors had been brought in to do the voices of Harriet and Greenwood.
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 1 second ago
comment by Baz tard (U19119)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 10 seconds ago
Lmao! You dont know sheite. He would have a very good civil suit with plenty of money if he was found guilty. Not even believing a father of a woman prefers to have his wife marry her assaulter ( because a lot of fathers have done this too)
It wi take to.e, but this twitter thinking pass
-----------------------------------------------
Good grief, he said her phone had neen hacked and expected everyone to say "Oh well, that makes it ok then"
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The phone hacking thing makes no sense, I mean it’s not exactly easy to hack a modern phone, so why would anyone spend the time targeting that particular phone? Makes no sense at all
----------------------------------------------------------------------
In the very unlikely event of the phone being hacked, it doesn't alter the fact there were some quite gruesome images and audio on it.
I'm surprised he didn't say the videos had been altered by CGI and actors had been brought in to do the voices of Harriet and Greenwood.
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Is that what rdd has been saying now?
comment by Baz tard (U19119)
posted 17 seconds ago
comment by _Viva_Vida (U6044)
posted 8 seconds ago
also feel it's worth noting that the CPS dropped the case after the witness pulled out. That's the ONLY reason and it happened after he broke his bail conditions.
———/—
If I remember correctly, the CPS stated they dropped the case because of the withdrawal of a key witness AND new material coming to light.
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Which is probably much the same thing, withdraw and provide a new statement as ‘new evidence’ clearing him.
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I dont know the lingo in criminal law circles, but I doubt they would state the same thing twice.
If the witness withdraws, then they would not have made themselves available to provide a ‘new’ statement. If they want to make a new statement the use if the term ‘withdraw’ wouldnt have been used.
Diafol, culer says you've been emailing him as well?
Is he available on a free or not?
COYS,
Daniel
Prominent lawyer Adam Wagner posted the following.
"A couple of observations, from a lawyer’s perspective:
He wasn’t cleared of all - or any - charges. The charges were dropped. So Greenwood’s statement, which I assume was agreed with the club, is misleading.
The club statement: “we have concluded that the material uploaded does not paint the full picture and that Mason did not commit the offenses [ic] for which he was originally charged”
Careful language - do they mean he may have committed other offences? And did they get advice from a criminal lawyer - because the reports all say it was the club’s general counsel who provided the legal input.
Finally - reports that there are “no plans” for him to return after a loan. This seems to be hedging bets.
It’s an odd situation. They seem to have been willing to reintegrate him but have now changed their minds. There is an acceptance he made ‘mistakes’ but what do they/does he mean?
If there is an alternative, innocent explanation for the information in the public domain the club could release it. If there isn’t, then why was the plan to reintegrate him?"
comment by _Viva_Vida (U6044)
posted 20 minutes ago
comment by Baz tard (U19119)
posted 17 seconds ago
comment by _Viva_Vida (U6044)
posted 8 seconds ago
also feel it's worth noting that the CPS dropped the case after the witness pulled out. That's the ONLY reason and it happened after he broke his bail conditions.
———/—
If I remember correctly, the CPS stated they dropped the case because of the withdrawal of a key witness AND new material coming to light.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Which is probably much the same thing, withdraw and provide a new statement as ‘new evidence’ clearing him.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I dont know the lingo in criminal law circles, but I doubt they would state the same thing twice.
If the witness withdraws, then they would not have made themselves available to provide a ‘new’ statement. If they want to make a new statement the use if the term ‘withdraw’ wouldnt have been used.
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Perhaps, not overly convinced though.
Russian & Melton
Yeah that tweet shares my views on it.
comment by user number one (U23061)
posted 5 hours, 7 minutes ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 17 minutes ago
comment by user number one (U23061)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 1 minute ago
Happy he has gone. Didn't see how he could play for us again. A bit confused at the club's statement. Feels like an agreement has been reached between the club and Greenwood's advisors. Either way, a great result for the club and its fans.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
How?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
How what?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
How is it a great outcome for the club and fans?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Because we got a horrible knut out of the club.
comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 3 hours, 10 minutes ago
comment by T-SaliBAG (U11806)
posted 5 minutes ago
Even in coming to the right decision Utd have managed to make a mess of it, honestly seems like they were fully onboard with bringing him back until there was backlash. Then they release this statement, which reads like it was made when they decided to bring him back and now they're just changing the last paragraph.
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Their previous comms meant they’d backed themselves into a corner so there wasn’t much else they could say apart from the statement they released. Does raise a lot of questions though, in particular how on earth they ever thought they were going to be able to reintegrate him without at any point providing full facts of the whole thing. That was a narrative that was never going to work and still doesn’t.
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100% this. The club misjudged the public's reaction. Once the news was leaked that he was going to be brought back into the team and they got an idea of what was going to happen, they realised this wasn't possible. And have published this bs statement.
comment by Scott Tiffoney (U1734)
posted 1 hour, 32 minutes ago
Diafol, culer says you've been emailing him as well?
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He emailed me 2 days ago to say Greenwood was gone and that it would be announced today.
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 59 seconds ago
comment by Scott Tiffoney (U1734)
posted 1 hour, 32 minutes ago
Diafol, culer says you've been emailing him as well?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
He emailed me 2 days ago to say Greenwood was gone and that it would be announced today.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yeah same and has given me the full story from the United player he knows. Have you asked for it?
comment by Scott Tiffoney (U1734)
posted 0 seconds ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 59 seconds ago
comment by Scott Tiffoney (U1734)
posted 1 hour, 32 minutes ago
Diafol, culer says you've been emailing him as well?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
He emailed me 2 days ago to say Greenwood was gone and that it would be announced today.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yeah same and has given me the full story from the United player he knows. Have you asked for it?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Or I see what you did there
comment by Scott Tiffoney (U1734)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Scott Tiffoney (U1734)
posted 0 seconds ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 59 seconds ago
comment by Scott Tiffoney (U1734)
posted 1 hour, 32 minutes ago
Diafol, culer says you've been emailing him as well?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
He emailed me 2 days ago to say Greenwood was gone and that it would be announced today.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yeah same and has given me the full story from the United player he knows. Have you asked for it?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Or I see what you did there
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Haha. You've got to remember to log out dude!
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 32 minutes ago
comment by user number one (U23061)
posted 5 hours, 7 minutes ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 17 minutes ago
comment by user number one (U23061)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 1 minute ago
Happy he has gone. Didn't see how he could play for us again. A bit confused at the club's statement. Feels like an agreement has been reached between the club and Greenwood's advisors. Either way, a great result for the club and its fans.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
How?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
How what?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
How is it a great outcome for the club and fans?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Because we got a horrible knut out of the club.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You never done a single bad thing in your life?
Hi stretty. Want to know the inside info we have?
comment by user number one (U23061)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 32 minutes ago
comment by user number one (U23061)
posted 5 hours, 7 minutes ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 17 minutes ago
comment by user number one (U23061)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 1 minute ago
Happy he has gone. Didn't see how he could play for us again. A bit confused at the club's statement. Feels like an agreement has been reached between the club and Greenwood's advisors. Either way, a great result for the club and its fans.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
How?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
How what?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
How is it a great outcome for the club and fans?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Because we got a horrible knut out of the club.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You never done a single bad thing in your life?
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Of course I have.
comment by user number one (U23061)
posted 9 minutes ago
Yes ok is it good?
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Yeah it's the actual story. Don't know whether to do an article. It's pretty crazy
Might need to do a new account as I am traceable on this one and it's a big leak
Sign in if you want to comment
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posted on 21/8/23
wtf?
posted on 21/8/23
also feel it's worth noting that the CPS dropped the case after the witness pulled out. That's the ONLY reason and it happened after he broke his bail conditions.
———/—
If I remember correctly, the CPS stated they dropped the case because of the withdrawal of a key witness AND new material coming to light.
posted on 21/8/23
comment by _Viva_Vida (U6044)
posted 8 seconds ago
also feel it's worth noting that the CPS dropped the case after the witness pulled out. That's the ONLY reason and it happened after he broke his bail conditions.
———/—
If I remember correctly, the CPS stated they dropped the case because of the withdrawal of a key witness AND new material coming to light.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Which is probably much the same thing, withdraw and provide a new statement as ‘new evidence’ clearing him.
posted on 21/8/23
comment by Redastomatoes- Feels very Moyesian...cleverson forever!If he is good enough he is ready! (U12026)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by T-SaliBAG (U11806)
posted 3 minutes ago
Harriet's Dad was TeamGreenwood from Day 1.
If that had been my daughter I would have run the khunt over, not tried to defend him.
_____________
Yeah it was honestly shocking to hear that he could possibly take that opinion.
Then Greenwood breaks his bail and she suddenly retracts her complaint.
Then when the club investigate they only talk to the mum.
It doesn't look very good at all so if there was an explanation, I don't know why both Greenwood and the club wouldn't want it clear.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Because it doesn't make him anyone look better. But not believing that's possible must be hard
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Sorry, I don't really understand what you mean
posted on 21/8/23
comment by Baz tard (U19119)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 10 seconds ago
Lmao! You dont know sheite. He would have a very good civil suit with plenty of money if he was found guilty. Not even believing a father of a woman prefers to have his wife marry her assaulter ( because a lot of fathers have done this too)
It wi take to.e, but this twitter thinking pass
-----------------------------------------------
Good grief, he said her phone had neen hacked and expected everyone to say "Oh well, that makes it ok then"
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The phone hacking thing makes no sense, I mean it’s not exactly easy to hack a modern phone, so why would anyone spend the time targeting that particular phone? Makes no sense at all
----------------------------------------------------------------------
In the very unlikely event of the phone being hacked, it doesn't alter the fact there were some quite gruesome images and audio on it.
I'm surprised he didn't say the videos had been altered by CGI and actors had been brought in to do the voices of Harriet and Greenwood.
posted on 21/8/23
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 1 second ago
comment by Baz tard (U19119)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 10 seconds ago
Lmao! You dont know sheite. He would have a very good civil suit with plenty of money if he was found guilty. Not even believing a father of a woman prefers to have his wife marry her assaulter ( because a lot of fathers have done this too)
It wi take to.e, but this twitter thinking pass
-----------------------------------------------
Good grief, he said her phone had neen hacked and expected everyone to say "Oh well, that makes it ok then"
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The phone hacking thing makes no sense, I mean it’s not exactly easy to hack a modern phone, so why would anyone spend the time targeting that particular phone? Makes no sense at all
----------------------------------------------------------------------
In the very unlikely event of the phone being hacked, it doesn't alter the fact there were some quite gruesome images and audio on it.
I'm surprised he didn't say the videos had been altered by CGI and actors had been brought in to do the voices of Harriet and Greenwood.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Is that what rdd has been saying now?
posted on 21/8/23
comment by Baz tard (U19119)
posted 17 seconds ago
comment by _Viva_Vida (U6044)
posted 8 seconds ago
also feel it's worth noting that the CPS dropped the case after the witness pulled out. That's the ONLY reason and it happened after he broke his bail conditions.
———/—
If I remember correctly, the CPS stated they dropped the case because of the withdrawal of a key witness AND new material coming to light.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Which is probably much the same thing, withdraw and provide a new statement as ‘new evidence’ clearing him.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I dont know the lingo in criminal law circles, but I doubt they would state the same thing twice.
If the witness withdraws, then they would not have made themselves available to provide a ‘new’ statement. If they want to make a new statement the use if the term ‘withdraw’ wouldnt have been used.
posted on 21/8/23
Diafol, culer says you've been emailing him as well?
posted on 21/8/23
Is he available on a free or not?
COYS,
Daniel
posted on 21/8/23
Prominent lawyer Adam Wagner posted the following.
"A couple of observations, from a lawyer’s perspective:
He wasn’t cleared of all - or any - charges. The charges were dropped. So Greenwood’s statement, which I assume was agreed with the club, is misleading.
The club statement: “we have concluded that the material uploaded does not paint the full picture and that Mason did not commit the offenses [ic] for which he was originally charged”
Careful language - do they mean he may have committed other offences? And did they get advice from a criminal lawyer - because the reports all say it was the club’s general counsel who provided the legal input.
Finally - reports that there are “no plans” for him to return after a loan. This seems to be hedging bets.
It’s an odd situation. They seem to have been willing to reintegrate him but have now changed their minds. There is an acceptance he made ‘mistakes’ but what do they/does he mean?
If there is an alternative, innocent explanation for the information in the public domain the club could release it. If there isn’t, then why was the plan to reintegrate him?"
posted on 21/8/23
comment by _Viva_Vida (U6044)
posted 20 minutes ago
comment by Baz tard (U19119)
posted 17 seconds ago
comment by _Viva_Vida (U6044)
posted 8 seconds ago
also feel it's worth noting that the CPS dropped the case after the witness pulled out. That's the ONLY reason and it happened after he broke his bail conditions.
———/—
If I remember correctly, the CPS stated they dropped the case because of the withdrawal of a key witness AND new material coming to light.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Which is probably much the same thing, withdraw and provide a new statement as ‘new evidence’ clearing him.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I dont know the lingo in criminal law circles, but I doubt they would state the same thing twice.
If the witness withdraws, then they would not have made themselves available to provide a ‘new’ statement. If they want to make a new statement the use if the term ‘withdraw’ wouldnt have been used.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Perhaps, not overly convinced though.
posted on 21/8/23
Diafol?
posted on 21/8/23
Russian & Melton
Yeah that tweet shares my views on it.
posted on 21/8/23
comment by user number one (U23061)
posted 5 hours, 7 minutes ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 17 minutes ago
comment by user number one (U23061)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 1 minute ago
Happy he has gone. Didn't see how he could play for us again. A bit confused at the club's statement. Feels like an agreement has been reached between the club and Greenwood's advisors. Either way, a great result for the club and its fans.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
How?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
How what?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
How is it a great outcome for the club and fans?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Because we got a horrible knut out of the club.
posted on 21/8/23
comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 3 hours, 10 minutes ago
comment by T-SaliBAG (U11806)
posted 5 minutes ago
Even in coming to the right decision Utd have managed to make a mess of it, honestly seems like they were fully onboard with bringing him back until there was backlash. Then they release this statement, which reads like it was made when they decided to bring him back and now they're just changing the last paragraph.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Their previous comms meant they’d backed themselves into a corner so there wasn’t much else they could say apart from the statement they released. Does raise a lot of questions though, in particular how on earth they ever thought they were going to be able to reintegrate him without at any point providing full facts of the whole thing. That was a narrative that was never going to work and still doesn’t.
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100% this. The club misjudged the public's reaction. Once the news was leaked that he was going to be brought back into the team and they got an idea of what was going to happen, they realised this wasn't possible. And have published this bs statement.
posted on 21/8/23
comment by Scott Tiffoney (U1734)
posted 1 hour, 32 minutes ago
Diafol, culer says you've been emailing him as well?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
He emailed me 2 days ago to say Greenwood was gone and that it would be announced today.
posted on 21/8/23
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 59 seconds ago
comment by Scott Tiffoney (U1734)
posted 1 hour, 32 minutes ago
Diafol, culer says you've been emailing him as well?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
He emailed me 2 days ago to say Greenwood was gone and that it would be announced today.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yeah same and has given me the full story from the United player he knows. Have you asked for it?
posted on 21/8/23
comment by Scott Tiffoney (U1734)
posted 0 seconds ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 59 seconds ago
comment by Scott Tiffoney (U1734)
posted 1 hour, 32 minutes ago
Diafol, culer says you've been emailing him as well?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
He emailed me 2 days ago to say Greenwood was gone and that it would be announced today.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yeah same and has given me the full story from the United player he knows. Have you asked for it?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Or I see what you did there
posted on 21/8/23
comment by Scott Tiffoney (U1734)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Scott Tiffoney (U1734)
posted 0 seconds ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 59 seconds ago
comment by Scott Tiffoney (U1734)
posted 1 hour, 32 minutes ago
Diafol, culer says you've been emailing him as well?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
He emailed me 2 days ago to say Greenwood was gone and that it would be announced today.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yeah same and has given me the full story from the United player he knows. Have you asked for it?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Or I see what you did there
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Haha. You've got to remember to log out dude!
posted on 21/8/23
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 32 minutes ago
comment by user number one (U23061)
posted 5 hours, 7 minutes ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 17 minutes ago
comment by user number one (U23061)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 1 minute ago
Happy he has gone. Didn't see how he could play for us again. A bit confused at the club's statement. Feels like an agreement has been reached between the club and Greenwood's advisors. Either way, a great result for the club and its fans.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
How?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
How what?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
How is it a great outcome for the club and fans?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Because we got a horrible knut out of the club.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You never done a single bad thing in your life?
posted on 21/8/23
Hi stretty. Want to know the inside info we have?
posted on 21/8/23
Yes ok is it good?
posted on 21/8/23
comment by user number one (U23061)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 32 minutes ago
comment by user number one (U23061)
posted 5 hours, 7 minutes ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 17 minutes ago
comment by user number one (U23061)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 1 minute ago
Happy he has gone. Didn't see how he could play for us again. A bit confused at the club's statement. Feels like an agreement has been reached between the club and Greenwood's advisors. Either way, a great result for the club and its fans.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
How?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
How what?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
How is it a great outcome for the club and fans?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Because we got a horrible knut out of the club.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You never done a single bad thing in your life?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Of course I have.
posted on 21/8/23
comment by user number one (U23061)
posted 9 minutes ago
Yes ok is it good?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yeah it's the actual story. Don't know whether to do an article. It's pretty crazy
posted on 21/8/23
Might need to do a new account as I am traceable on this one and it's a big leak
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