comment by Diafol Coch 77 (U2462)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by KingKenny (U1961)
posted 36 seconds ago
I'll allow the whole stadium investment argument and I get why the whole debt thing rankles but most of the whining from United fans (and it has crept in here) isn't about that and ends up coming down to "we could've spent more on players and we'd be better than City". Most of your problems seems to be when you spend too much on players. Who was the last high value transfer that truly worked out? Maybe less money might've been better for you...
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I think most sensible fans on here don't have much complaints about how much has been spent on players. It's the people responsible for that spending that's been the issue. It's a bit like putting me in Jos Verstsppen's car. Amateurish!
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True.
I always say it's like letting your young children decide on the weekly food shopping. You will get lots of food but none of it will be right for what you need.
All the Glazers had to do in 2005 was hire the best in class. They didn't. They decided to give Ed Woodward the job and totally fell behind on and off the pitch.
comment by KingKenny (U1961)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 1 minute ago
To the Ill informed scousers who don't understand football finances.
City have had about £1.5 to 2bn invested into their club from their owner. His own money.
We've lost £1.5bn to interest / debt repayments and some dividends to the owners too.
That's a 3 to 3.5bn difference right there. Doesn't take a genius to work out why the clubs are where they are. We've spent money badly for sure but if we were debt free we'd have been able to spend a hell of lot more and under different owners we'd have probably spent it better too.
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So just to get this clear... You think that your club should have spent more than £3billion on signings since the glaziers have taken over?
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Don't think that is the case just that Utd COULD have spent even more if under an owner like them?
That said with the people who were in place it probs wouldn't have made much difference anyway?
Old Trafford getting a huge makeover like Madrid and Barcelona is definitely needed. The stadium is massive but it's sub par. Only just got WiFi too and it's 2023. Doesn't that say everything about how they don't care?
If Qatar do takeover I hope we aren't ran like PSG have been though. That's been a massive circus, not too dissimilar to how we've been, and I don't want that anymore. I'd rather us being boring, quiet and efficient about what we do rather than being a soap opera.
How easy do you think it is to get the right people in at the top to get that level of success? Seems like you are holding the glaziers to a pretty high standard in terms of recruitment
Surely no one wants qatar to take over especially after the Greenwood scandal
This is great news. Enough time to get him back to full fitness, maybe a loan to Everton then get him back in the team post October in January.
Rashford------Hojland----Greenwood
comment by Onana what's my name? (U14210)
posted 3 minutes ago
Surely no one wants qatar to take over especially after the Greenwood scandal
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It's the exact opposite. A lot more fans do want them than don't know it seems when you look at polls online for example. I agree though the moral outrage brigade seem to somewhat hypocritical on this point given the Greenwood issue.
I have been very vocal on this type of ownership in football. Never wanted it and still don't but the authorities don't seem to care. They have allowed them in and it's not made the game better for me. It's destroyed competition and what some clubs have worked 50 years for has been caught up in a few years through nothing to do with their own club.
Put a gun to my head though and choose between Qatar and the Glazers.....I'd probably pick Qatar but I wouldn't like it. That's how much I hate our owners. I don't want them just out of our club. I want their heads on spikes outside the ground. Parasites.
comment by KingKenny (U1961)
posted 14 minutes ago
I'll allow the whole stadium investment argument and I get why the whole debt thing rankles but most of the whining from United fans (and it has crept in here) isn't about that and ends up coming down to "we could've spent more on players and we'd be better than City". Most of your problems seems to be when you spend too much on players. Who was the last high value transfer that truly worked out? Maybe less money might've been better for you...
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Virtually no one takes issue with the amount of money (that the club has generated by itself) being available for transfers.
The issues with the Glazer's is the debt, the dividends, the lack of investment into the club generally (facilities, stadium etc), the lack of any meaningful fan dialogue, the commercial money-men they've put in place to run the footballing operations (which has led to comedy contracts for poor or injured players, a lack of clear recruitment direction, an inability to shift players on stupid wages for decent transfer fees, spending fortunes on duds & yo-yoing between different managers with different styles of play), the Super League attempt and now we're seeing a ridiculous "sale" rumble on - they've been offered someone close to £6bn for the club. They are already rich beyond their wildest dreams... Just go.
They were absolutely lucky as hell that their premiership was overseen and managed by the brilliance of Fergie & Gill. Once they left and the Glazer's had to put their own people in place, the wheels came off and have more or less stayed off ever since. They've been a disaster.
comment by KingKenny (U1961)
posted 16 minutes ago
I'll allow the whole stadium investment argument and I get why the whole debt thing rankles but most of the whining from United fans (and it has crept in here) isn't about that and ends up coming down to "we could've spent more on players and we'd be better than City". Most of your problems seems to be when you spend too much on players. Who was the last high value transfer that truly worked out? Maybe less money might've been better for you...
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That's a bit simplistic. We've overspent on players because we've been playing catch-up (in the same way City had to massively outbid rivals when they were building their Death Star) due to a mixture of underinvestment and bad decisions under the Glazers. Of course when you lose the best players of the Fergie era (Ronaldo sale, gradual decline of Rooney, Carrick, Ferdinand, Evra and retirement of class of 92) and don't invest to bring in talent of a similar level, exacerbated by lack of strategic sporting leadership in the flux created by Fergie/Gill's departure, you find yourself in a position where you need to spend a lot just to be in Top 4 contention. And with the same people who failed the transition to the new era in charge of the catch-up, of course those large investments were also bungled. Meanwhile, the lack of strategic investment in stadium and training adds to the sense of a club in decline, which makes it harder to attract the best talents and exacerbates the issue of having to spend more than e.g. City would to buy the same player. The unwillingness of the Glazers to invest proactively, only reactively, and the cap on the sums available due to interest repayments and generous dividends, and the rank incompetence are all interconnected.
We've heard this about 10 times over the past few months so not expecting much tbh. I did read recently that a reason why the Glazer's have stalled is the interest rates, no idea how true that is?
I do think they are willing to sell for the right price but as we have seen throughout their time at the club, they're simply terrible as decision making. I know I've said it many times but it really is like Succession, successful business Dad and his useless children.
comment by Onana what's my name? (U14210)
posted 14 minutes ago
Surely no one wants qatar to take over especially after the Greenwood scandal
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Its always been about getting rid of the Glazers for some if us.
I don't hate the Glazers, they bought us for business reasons,that's all.
I hate the parents of the ten year old girl who appears to have tortured and killed her, and all similar types.
Regarding the Glazers, I wish for better owners, but that's all.
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 1 hour, 32 minutes ago
I honestly don't think the Glazers have ever had any intention of selling.
This is another of those where I hope I am wrong.
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I'm inclined to take the Glazers' initial statement at face value: they never said they would sell, but rather that they would explore investment options, up to and including a sale. There seems to be a strong suggestion that the Glazer siblings are not united on their preferred course of action. Joel and Avram are reputedly either more emotionally invested in the project or more optimistic that they can exit at a higher price if they hang on. The others are supposedly inclined to cash out now. If there is no consensus among them, if essentially they haven't been able to make a collective decision, that would explain the protracted nature of the process.
comment by manutd1982 (U6633)
posted 3 minutes ago
We've heard this about 10 times over the past few months so not expecting much tbh. I did read recently that a reason why the Glazer's have stalled is the interest rates, no idea how true that is?
I do think they are willing to sell for the right price but as we have seen throughout their time at the club, they're simply terrible as decision making. I know I've said it many times but it really is like Succession, successful business Dad and his useless children.
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They're not serious people, are they?
comment by KingKenny (U1961)
posted 14 minutes ago
How easy do you think it is to get the right people in at the top to get that level of success? Seems like you are holding the glaziers to a pretty high standard in terms of recruitment
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The Glazer's take hefty dividends from the club - millions each year. Yes, they should be held to a high standard. They took over Manchester United - one of the biggest sporting institutions on the planet. No one is arguing that finding the right people is easy, but they put in place the wrong people and kept them there whilst they continued to line their own pockets. It's not yet clear whether that's been rectified with Arnold - there's been good signs & bad.
Almost every other top club, and even a great many smaller sides are considerably better run than United. We're miles behind Brighton in the way the footballing department seems to run, and look to have already fallen behind Newcastle in that respect, too.
comment by BerbaKing11 (U6256)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by KingKenny (U1961)
posted 14 minutes ago
How easy do you think it is to get the right people in at the top to get that level of success? Seems like you are holding the glaziers to a pretty high standard in terms of recruitment
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The Glazer's take hefty dividends from the club - millions each year. Yes, they should be held to a high standard. They took over Manchester United - one of the biggest sporting institutions on the planet. No one is arguing that finding the right people is easy, but they put in place the wrong people and kept them there whilst they continued to line their own pockets. It's not yet clear whether that's been rectified with Arnold - there's been good signs & bad.
Almost every other top club, and even a great many smaller sides are considerably better run than United. We're miles behind Brighton in the way the footballing department seems to run, and look to have already fallen behind Newcastle in that respect, too.
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Exactly. The thing is, you could forgive the Glazers for getting it wrong, but they didn't even try. They just put a banker in charge. They wanted personal sign-off on transfers. They made no structural or personnel changes to the leadership of the organisation when things went wrong again and again. The sheer complacency, the utter lack of curiosity about the mechanics of their cash cow, are what really gets me.
It'll be interesting to see how well run the club become if/when the Qataris take over, not that I'll be supporting them at that point. You only need to look at PSG to see all the money in the world doesn't make a well run club.
comment by Robb Matilda (U22716)
posted 1 hour, 14 minutes ago
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 26 seconds ago
comment by Robb Matilda (U22716)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 39 seconds ago
comment by Robb Matilda (U22716)
posted 24 minutes ago
If the Qataris buy us and go balls in and put everything behind us we’d be the best side in the world within a few seasons but I personally don’t want them to buy us as there surely has to be a better way of doing things than becoming a soulless sportswashing tool playing on cheat mode?
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You just can't help yourself you weasel. The OP specifically stated he is not interested in this gibberish
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Firstly I’d like to thank you for calling me a weasel. Not so much because you named me after a cute animal, more that I have to give you props for being original with the choice of insult. You could have said so many other words so well done buddy,
Secondly .. actually the first was brilliant.
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Just shut up and move on.
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Who hurt you Scholay? Wanna talk? 🍷
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You need to talk, it appears the Qatari's hurt you.
Old Trafford rejected by UEFA as a venue for the 2028 Euro finals sums up the neglect shown to the stadium by the Glazers.
These are the same people who threatened to move the Tampa Bay Buccaneers franchise out of Tampa if a new stadium wasn't built at tax payers expense
Hard to tell how a Qatari will actually play out for the players, manager etc.
Has there been a take over of a truly big club that has led to success and all the promises kept (stadium, academy etc)?
At the player level, you'd think some would be excited and might be thinking of money, or the players that will be incoming... Some will perhaps be worried that they are about to be shown the door.
ETH, i don't see much changing, he seems like the kind of guy who just gets on with it... Though his recruitment plans would likely change for the coming windows.
The other club staff would probably be somewhat concerned for their jobs.
So, put simply... Fock knows how it will go.
comment by Roy's Keane (U11635)
posted 3 minutes ago
Old Trafford rejected by UEFA as a venue for the 2028 Euro finals sums up the neglect shown to the stadium by the Glazers.
These are the same people who threatened to move the Tampa Bay Buccaneers franchise out of Tampa if a new stadium wasn't built at tax payers expense
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It's actually a bit more complicated than that.
I believe the club have told UEFA that OT will likely be going under mass redevelopment during this time frame so that's why it's not been included.
It's in a bad state but still good enough to host Euro games.
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 50 minutes ago
I don't hate the Glazers, they bought us for business reasons,that's all.
I hate the parents of the ten year old girl who appears to have tortured and killed her, and all similar types.
Regarding the Glazers, I wish for better owners, but that's all.
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I hate them. No issues with saying it.
comment by KingKenny (U1961)
posted 1 hour, 6 minutes ago
How easy do you think it is to get the right people in at the top to get that level of success? Seems like you are holding the glaziers to a pretty high standard in terms of recruitment
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The people getting the sponsorship in seem to be doing a very good job but the recruitment side is very poor. Teams like Brighton seem to uncover really good players at reasonable prices, unfortunately they can't always hold on to them. They buy players that fit their system on a fraction of United's budget, Brentford to a lesser degree do the same.
There are good players out there but United always seem to pay top prices and pay massive wages.
Get a DOF in. Ralf Ragnick looks like he has talent for spotting good players. The club refused to sign off on his recommendations
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Roy's Keane (U11635)
posted 3 minutes ago
Old Trafford rejected by UEFA as a venue for the 2028 Euro finals sums up the neglect shown to the stadium by the Glazers.
These are the same people who threatened to move the Tampa Bay Buccaneers franchise out of Tampa if a new stadium wasn't built at tax payers expense
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It's actually a bit more complicated than that.
I believe the club have told UEFA that OT will likely be going under mass redevelopment during this time frame so that's why it's not been included.
It's in a bad state but still good enough to host Euro games.
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Redevelopment that has been neglected uptil now and currently on hold because of the potential sale
Infrastructurely it is not deemed suitable or good enough to host the games according to any of the reports I've read
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posted on 23/8/23
comment by Diafol Coch 77 (U2462)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by KingKenny (U1961)
posted 36 seconds ago
I'll allow the whole stadium investment argument and I get why the whole debt thing rankles but most of the whining from United fans (and it has crept in here) isn't about that and ends up coming down to "we could've spent more on players and we'd be better than City". Most of your problems seems to be when you spend too much on players. Who was the last high value transfer that truly worked out? Maybe less money might've been better for you...
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I think most sensible fans on here don't have much complaints about how much has been spent on players. It's the people responsible for that spending that's been the issue. It's a bit like putting me in Jos Verstsppen's car. Amateurish!
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True.
I always say it's like letting your young children decide on the weekly food shopping. You will get lots of food but none of it will be right for what you need.
All the Glazers had to do in 2005 was hire the best in class. They didn't. They decided to give Ed Woodward the job and totally fell behind on and off the pitch.
posted on 23/8/23
comment by KingKenny (U1961)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 1 minute ago
To the Ill informed scousers who don't understand football finances.
City have had about £1.5 to 2bn invested into their club from their owner. His own money.
We've lost £1.5bn to interest / debt repayments and some dividends to the owners too.
That's a 3 to 3.5bn difference right there. Doesn't take a genius to work out why the clubs are where they are. We've spent money badly for sure but if we were debt free we'd have been able to spend a hell of lot more and under different owners we'd have probably spent it better too.
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So just to get this clear... You think that your club should have spent more than £3billion on signings since the glaziers have taken over?
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Don't think that is the case just that Utd COULD have spent even more if under an owner like them?
That said with the people who were in place it probs wouldn't have made much difference anyway?
posted on 23/8/23
Old Trafford getting a huge makeover like Madrid and Barcelona is definitely needed. The stadium is massive but it's sub par. Only just got WiFi too and it's 2023. Doesn't that say everything about how they don't care?
If Qatar do takeover I hope we aren't ran like PSG have been though. That's been a massive circus, not too dissimilar to how we've been, and I don't want that anymore. I'd rather us being boring, quiet and efficient about what we do rather than being a soap opera.
posted on 23/8/23
How easy do you think it is to get the right people in at the top to get that level of success? Seems like you are holding the glaziers to a pretty high standard in terms of recruitment
posted on 23/8/23
Surely no one wants qatar to take over especially after the Greenwood scandal
posted on 23/8/23
This is great news. Enough time to get him back to full fitness, maybe a loan to Everton then get him back in the team post October in January.
Rashford------Hojland----Greenwood
posted on 23/8/23
comment by Onana what's my name? (U14210)
posted 3 minutes ago
Surely no one wants qatar to take over especially after the Greenwood scandal
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It's the exact opposite. A lot more fans do want them than don't know it seems when you look at polls online for example. I agree though the moral outrage brigade seem to somewhat hypocritical on this point given the Greenwood issue.
I have been very vocal on this type of ownership in football. Never wanted it and still don't but the authorities don't seem to care. They have allowed them in and it's not made the game better for me. It's destroyed competition and what some clubs have worked 50 years for has been caught up in a few years through nothing to do with their own club.
Put a gun to my head though and choose between Qatar and the Glazers.....I'd probably pick Qatar but I wouldn't like it. That's how much I hate our owners. I don't want them just out of our club. I want their heads on spikes outside the ground. Parasites.
posted on 23/8/23
comment by KingKenny (U1961)
posted 14 minutes ago
I'll allow the whole stadium investment argument and I get why the whole debt thing rankles but most of the whining from United fans (and it has crept in here) isn't about that and ends up coming down to "we could've spent more on players and we'd be better than City". Most of your problems seems to be when you spend too much on players. Who was the last high value transfer that truly worked out? Maybe less money might've been better for you...
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Virtually no one takes issue with the amount of money (that the club has generated by itself) being available for transfers.
The issues with the Glazer's is the debt, the dividends, the lack of investment into the club generally (facilities, stadium etc), the lack of any meaningful fan dialogue, the commercial money-men they've put in place to run the footballing operations (which has led to comedy contracts for poor or injured players, a lack of clear recruitment direction, an inability to shift players on stupid wages for decent transfer fees, spending fortunes on duds & yo-yoing between different managers with different styles of play), the Super League attempt and now we're seeing a ridiculous "sale" rumble on - they've been offered someone close to £6bn for the club. They are already rich beyond their wildest dreams... Just go.
They were absolutely lucky as hell that their premiership was overseen and managed by the brilliance of Fergie & Gill. Once they left and the Glazer's had to put their own people in place, the wheels came off and have more or less stayed off ever since. They've been a disaster.
posted on 23/8/23
comment by KingKenny (U1961)
posted 16 minutes ago
I'll allow the whole stadium investment argument and I get why the whole debt thing rankles but most of the whining from United fans (and it has crept in here) isn't about that and ends up coming down to "we could've spent more on players and we'd be better than City". Most of your problems seems to be when you spend too much on players. Who was the last high value transfer that truly worked out? Maybe less money might've been better for you...
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That's a bit simplistic. We've overspent on players because we've been playing catch-up (in the same way City had to massively outbid rivals when they were building their Death Star) due to a mixture of underinvestment and bad decisions under the Glazers. Of course when you lose the best players of the Fergie era (Ronaldo sale, gradual decline of Rooney, Carrick, Ferdinand, Evra and retirement of class of 92) and don't invest to bring in talent of a similar level, exacerbated by lack of strategic sporting leadership in the flux created by Fergie/Gill's departure, you find yourself in a position where you need to spend a lot just to be in Top 4 contention. And with the same people who failed the transition to the new era in charge of the catch-up, of course those large investments were also bungled. Meanwhile, the lack of strategic investment in stadium and training adds to the sense of a club in decline, which makes it harder to attract the best talents and exacerbates the issue of having to spend more than e.g. City would to buy the same player. The unwillingness of the Glazers to invest proactively, only reactively, and the cap on the sums available due to interest repayments and generous dividends, and the rank incompetence are all interconnected.
posted on 23/8/23
We've heard this about 10 times over the past few months so not expecting much tbh. I did read recently that a reason why the Glazer's have stalled is the interest rates, no idea how true that is?
I do think they are willing to sell for the right price but as we have seen throughout their time at the club, they're simply terrible as decision making. I know I've said it many times but it really is like Succession, successful business Dad and his useless children.
posted on 23/8/23
comment by Onana what's my name? (U14210)
posted 14 minutes ago
Surely no one wants qatar to take over especially after the Greenwood scandal
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Its always been about getting rid of the Glazers for some if us.
posted on 23/8/23
I don't hate the Glazers, they bought us for business reasons,that's all.
I hate the parents of the ten year old girl who appears to have tortured and killed her, and all similar types.
Regarding the Glazers, I wish for better owners, but that's all.
posted on 23/8/23
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 1 hour, 32 minutes ago
I honestly don't think the Glazers have ever had any intention of selling.
This is another of those where I hope I am wrong.
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I'm inclined to take the Glazers' initial statement at face value: they never said they would sell, but rather that they would explore investment options, up to and including a sale. There seems to be a strong suggestion that the Glazer siblings are not united on their preferred course of action. Joel and Avram are reputedly either more emotionally invested in the project or more optimistic that they can exit at a higher price if they hang on. The others are supposedly inclined to cash out now. If there is no consensus among them, if essentially they haven't been able to make a collective decision, that would explain the protracted nature of the process.
posted on 23/8/23
comment by manutd1982 (U6633)
posted 3 minutes ago
We've heard this about 10 times over the past few months so not expecting much tbh. I did read recently that a reason why the Glazer's have stalled is the interest rates, no idea how true that is?
I do think they are willing to sell for the right price but as we have seen throughout their time at the club, they're simply terrible as decision making. I know I've said it many times but it really is like Succession, successful business Dad and his useless children.
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They're not serious people, are they?
posted on 23/8/23
comment by KingKenny (U1961)
posted 14 minutes ago
How easy do you think it is to get the right people in at the top to get that level of success? Seems like you are holding the glaziers to a pretty high standard in terms of recruitment
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The Glazer's take hefty dividends from the club - millions each year. Yes, they should be held to a high standard. They took over Manchester United - one of the biggest sporting institutions on the planet. No one is arguing that finding the right people is easy, but they put in place the wrong people and kept them there whilst they continued to line their own pockets. It's not yet clear whether that's been rectified with Arnold - there's been good signs & bad.
Almost every other top club, and even a great many smaller sides are considerably better run than United. We're miles behind Brighton in the way the footballing department seems to run, and look to have already fallen behind Newcastle in that respect, too.
posted on 23/8/23
comment by BerbaKing11 (U6256)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by KingKenny (U1961)
posted 14 minutes ago
How easy do you think it is to get the right people in at the top to get that level of success? Seems like you are holding the glaziers to a pretty high standard in terms of recruitment
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The Glazer's take hefty dividends from the club - millions each year. Yes, they should be held to a high standard. They took over Manchester United - one of the biggest sporting institutions on the planet. No one is arguing that finding the right people is easy, but they put in place the wrong people and kept them there whilst they continued to line their own pockets. It's not yet clear whether that's been rectified with Arnold - there's been good signs & bad.
Almost every other top club, and even a great many smaller sides are considerably better run than United. We're miles behind Brighton in the way the footballing department seems to run, and look to have already fallen behind Newcastle in that respect, too.
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Exactly. The thing is, you could forgive the Glazers for getting it wrong, but they didn't even try. They just put a banker in charge. They wanted personal sign-off on transfers. They made no structural or personnel changes to the leadership of the organisation when things went wrong again and again. The sheer complacency, the utter lack of curiosity about the mechanics of their cash cow, are what really gets me.
posted on 23/8/23
It'll be interesting to see how well run the club become if/when the Qataris take over, not that I'll be supporting them at that point. You only need to look at PSG to see all the money in the world doesn't make a well run club.
posted on 23/8/23
comment by Robb Matilda (U22716)
posted 1 hour, 14 minutes ago
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 26 seconds ago
comment by Robb Matilda (U22716)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 39 seconds ago
comment by Robb Matilda (U22716)
posted 24 minutes ago
If the Qataris buy us and go balls in and put everything behind us we’d be the best side in the world within a few seasons but I personally don’t want them to buy us as there surely has to be a better way of doing things than becoming a soulless sportswashing tool playing on cheat mode?
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You just can't help yourself you weasel. The OP specifically stated he is not interested in this gibberish
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Firstly I’d like to thank you for calling me a weasel. Not so much because you named me after a cute animal, more that I have to give you props for being original with the choice of insult. You could have said so many other words so well done buddy,
Secondly .. actually the first was brilliant.
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Just shut up and move on.
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Who hurt you Scholay? Wanna talk? 🍷
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You need to talk, it appears the Qatari's hurt you.
posted on 23/8/23
Old Trafford rejected by UEFA as a venue for the 2028 Euro finals sums up the neglect shown to the stadium by the Glazers.
These are the same people who threatened to move the Tampa Bay Buccaneers franchise out of Tampa if a new stadium wasn't built at tax payers expense
posted on 23/8/23
Hard to tell how a Qatari will actually play out for the players, manager etc.
Has there been a take over of a truly big club that has led to success and all the promises kept (stadium, academy etc)?
At the player level, you'd think some would be excited and might be thinking of money, or the players that will be incoming... Some will perhaps be worried that they are about to be shown the door.
ETH, i don't see much changing, he seems like the kind of guy who just gets on with it... Though his recruitment plans would likely change for the coming windows.
The other club staff would probably be somewhat concerned for their jobs.
So, put simply... Fock knows how it will go.
posted on 23/8/23
comment by Roy's Keane (U11635)
posted 3 minutes ago
Old Trafford rejected by UEFA as a venue for the 2028 Euro finals sums up the neglect shown to the stadium by the Glazers.
These are the same people who threatened to move the Tampa Bay Buccaneers franchise out of Tampa if a new stadium wasn't built at tax payers expense
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It's actually a bit more complicated than that.
I believe the club have told UEFA that OT will likely be going under mass redevelopment during this time frame so that's why it's not been included.
It's in a bad state but still good enough to host Euro games.
posted on 23/8/23
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 50 minutes ago
I don't hate the Glazers, they bought us for business reasons,that's all.
I hate the parents of the ten year old girl who appears to have tortured and killed her, and all similar types.
Regarding the Glazers, I wish for better owners, but that's all.
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I hate them. No issues with saying it.
posted on 23/8/23
comment by KingKenny (U1961)
posted 1 hour, 6 minutes ago
How easy do you think it is to get the right people in at the top to get that level of success? Seems like you are holding the glaziers to a pretty high standard in terms of recruitment
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The people getting the sponsorship in seem to be doing a very good job but the recruitment side is very poor. Teams like Brighton seem to uncover really good players at reasonable prices, unfortunately they can't always hold on to them. They buy players that fit their system on a fraction of United's budget, Brentford to a lesser degree do the same.
There are good players out there but United always seem to pay top prices and pay massive wages.
posted on 23/8/23
Get a DOF in. Ralf Ragnick looks like he has talent for spotting good players. The club refused to sign off on his recommendations
posted on 23/8/23
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Roy's Keane (U11635)
posted 3 minutes ago
Old Trafford rejected by UEFA as a venue for the 2028 Euro finals sums up the neglect shown to the stadium by the Glazers.
These are the same people who threatened to move the Tampa Bay Buccaneers franchise out of Tampa if a new stadium wasn't built at tax payers expense
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It's actually a bit more complicated than that.
I believe the club have told UEFA that OT will likely be going under mass redevelopment during this time frame so that's why it's not been included.
It's in a bad state but still good enough to host Euro games.
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Redevelopment that has been neglected uptil now and currently on hold because of the potential sale
Infrastructurely it is not deemed suitable or good enough to host the games according to any of the reports I've read
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