Not sure what options we have at the club other than him should Byram get injured. Hjelde? I would keep him.
At championship level he'll be better. I know that's not going to be popular, but there seems no sign he's leaving. My guess is he'll have a part to play this season.
Cue news he's on his way come Tuesday .....
Actually want Firpo to stay and do well. its strange because no matter how justified critics he has, and me too, but I've always seen small glimpses of what a player he could be.
think this level could really suit him, then push on from there.
I also heard that he really WANTS to stay, despite what fans say about him, which he must hear. Thick-skinned or determined to prove us wrong? Not sure. But if he’s committed to try, let’s see what Farke can do with him. If Farke realises he can’t deliver suspect Farke wont be shy in getting rid.
Problem I have with Firpo is that he doesn't seem to excel at anything. He's not really good in attack, he's clumsy at the back and prone to bookings. Atleast Berra was hard to beat and Alioski was a real threat going forwards. Not sure what Firpo offers even though he seems like a nice bloke. Perhaps he'll do better at this level.
I think in a side that dominate the ball, Firpo will look okay. He probably won't have the attacking output we want, but he'll be a much more natural wide threat than Byram.
Be willing to give him a go, and then reassess in January, but I'd prefer we go out and sign a quality LB, especially given Firpo and Byram aren't the best at keeping themselves available.
He can't defend. Which is a critical part of being a defender.
He showed flashes going forward. Unfortunately,
him and Bill have the same flaws - can't defend.
If we're going to get out of this division we need
better than both. Firpo needs to go back to Spain
where his game seemed better suited. It's worked
well so far for Roca.
comment by Shaun M - supercalifragilisticOrtaisatrocious (U9955)
posted 36 minutes ago
Problem I have with Firpo is that he doesn't seem to excel at anything. He's not really good in attack, he's clumsy at the back and prone to bookings. Atleast Berra was hard to beat and Alioski was a real threat going forwards. Not sure what Firpo offers even though he seems like a nice bloke. Perhaps he'll do better at this level.
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Agree
comment by Batty (U4664)
posted 44 minutes ago
He can't defend. Which is a critical part of being a defender.
He showed flashes going forward. Unfortunately,
him and Bill have the same flaws - can't defend.
If we're going to get out of this division we need
better than both. Firpo needs to go back to Spain
where his game seemed better suited. It's worked
well so far for Roca.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Very harsh on Ayling, been a terrific defender for us.
Been let down massively last 18 months, with tactics that have left him totally exposed
You'd hope a drop in division gives players a chance to shine, also gives them a chance to be more exposed and Firpo is a red card waiting to happen at times.
I'd be more than happy if he exited the club.
Very harsh on Ayling, been a terrific defender for us.
^^^
Twisting like a pretzel to make that statement.
Bill's a solid leader on and off the pitch.
Advances the ball.
Works very hard and has a massive heart.
Understands the club and fans.
Part of the Bielsa legends team.
Scores goals. And good ones at that.
And is responsible for too many conceded goals.
Can't defend. Most if not all attacks start on his side.
For good reason. Love the bloke but, time to phase
him out if we're serious about promotion.
I will add though, great bloke to have in the squad
this season. At his age, could see him at a lower
end Championship club or top League One side
next season.
I agree with all these points with the exception of that he was responsible for too many goals against. Sure he played his part but so many times while he got the blame other were culpable also.
As for firpo, I'd keep him in the squad at least until we can see what he can do in this league.
"Can't defend. Most if not all attacks start on his side."
Because he's been asked to play further up the pitch.
He said this post WBA.
Totally agree Jonty. Surprised how far up up Ayling actually has been asked to play. No support either on the right
Doesn’t explain Bill’s part in the most woeful defence
In Prem’s recent history. Don’t take my word for it.
Take Farke’s. He all but signed Aaron’s. Was in for Williams. Now in for Spence. All RBs. Bill’s a great
Club servant who I really like. But, time to improve.
comment by Batty (U4664)
posted 1 minute ago
Doesn’t explain Bill’s part in the most woeful defence
In Prem’s recent history. Don’t take my word for it.
Take Farke’s. He all but signed Aaron’s. Was in for Williams. Now in for Spence. All RBs. Bill’s a great
Club servant who I really like. But, time to improve.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Hard for any deference to be hugely successful with Llorente, Firpo and Struijk
Even more so with marsch managing.
He can play both sides, just like Byram.
He can play both sides, but he has spent almost his entire senior career utilised as a LB. Also, that was just one rumour and don't think any reliable journalist ever supported it.
So either way you look at it, Farke saw Byram or
Williams as better than Bill - which they are. So,
Farke, if he got Williams, could've played him left
or right. Or vice versa Byram. And to say the links
to Williams aren't credible is daft. They were real.
Bill, love him, is not a viable, promotion winning
right back any more. And that's why Frake is looking
for replacements. Sentimental FC needs to die and
go away. Orta brainwashed a section of fans into
thinking the players he signed were fabulous.
They aren't. Bielsa was a magician. Without MB they
are what they are: aging lower tier, big hearted,
high football IQ, legends. But even they succumb
to father time.
I think the 49ers realize that too. 30+ year olds who
manned a woeful team aren't getting us back up.
"Orta brainwashed a section of fans into
thinking the players he signed were fabulous."
Orta didn't sign Ayling.
* And when I say legends, I mean in the same vein as
the Jamaican bob sled team. Punched way above their
weight and stunned the sporting world in the moment.
A couple in that team were brilliant. Yorkshire Pirlo
and Ben White for instance.
Jonty, you loathed the signing of Ayling at the time.
I seem to remember you trashing him over some
incident where he was accused of spitting. You did
not like that the club signed him at all.
I really like Ayling. I do. But time has caught up.
Same way time has caught up to Coops (who I love)
and Dallas.
Bamford's just sh 1 t. And over rated. Orta loved
spreading the idea that a modern striker didn't need
to score fcking goals. Hahahaha. Orta was just
trying to impress Monchi. And Monchi didn't give
a flying fck about Orta. Or his sh 1 t signings.
And
Happy Birthday Luke if you're reading.
Love you pal.
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posted on 25/8/23
Not sure what options we have at the club other than him should Byram get injured. Hjelde? I would keep him.
posted on 25/8/23
At championship level he'll be better. I know that's not going to be popular, but there seems no sign he's leaving. My guess is he'll have a part to play this season.
Cue news he's on his way come Tuesday .....
posted on 25/8/23
Actually want Firpo to stay and do well. its strange because no matter how justified critics he has, and me too, but I've always seen small glimpses of what a player he could be.
think this level could really suit him, then push on from there.
posted on 25/8/23
I also heard that he really WANTS to stay, despite what fans say about him, which he must hear. Thick-skinned or determined to prove us wrong? Not sure. But if he’s committed to try, let’s see what Farke can do with him. If Farke realises he can’t deliver suspect Farke wont be shy in getting rid.
posted on 25/8/23
Problem I have with Firpo is that he doesn't seem to excel at anything. He's not really good in attack, he's clumsy at the back and prone to bookings. Atleast Berra was hard to beat and Alioski was a real threat going forwards. Not sure what Firpo offers even though he seems like a nice bloke. Perhaps he'll do better at this level.
posted on 25/8/23
I think in a side that dominate the ball, Firpo will look okay. He probably won't have the attacking output we want, but he'll be a much more natural wide threat than Byram.
Be willing to give him a go, and then reassess in January, but I'd prefer we go out and sign a quality LB, especially given Firpo and Byram aren't the best at keeping themselves available.
posted on 25/8/23
He can't defend. Which is a critical part of being a defender.
He showed flashes going forward. Unfortunately,
him and Bill have the same flaws - can't defend.
If we're going to get out of this division we need
better than both. Firpo needs to go back to Spain
where his game seemed better suited. It's worked
well so far for Roca.
posted on 25/8/23
comment by Shaun M - supercalifragilisticOrtaisatrocious (U9955)
posted 36 minutes ago
Problem I have with Firpo is that he doesn't seem to excel at anything. He's not really good in attack, he's clumsy at the back and prone to bookings. Atleast Berra was hard to beat and Alioski was a real threat going forwards. Not sure what Firpo offers even though he seems like a nice bloke. Perhaps he'll do better at this level.
--------------
Agree
posted on 25/8/23
comment by Batty (U4664)
posted 44 minutes ago
He can't defend. Which is a critical part of being a defender.
He showed flashes going forward. Unfortunately,
him and Bill have the same flaws - can't defend.
If we're going to get out of this division we need
better than both. Firpo needs to go back to Spain
where his game seemed better suited. It's worked
well so far for Roca.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Very harsh on Ayling, been a terrific defender for us.
Been let down massively last 18 months, with tactics that have left him totally exposed
posted on 25/8/23
You'd hope a drop in division gives players a chance to shine, also gives them a chance to be more exposed and Firpo is a red card waiting to happen at times.
I'd be more than happy if he exited the club.
posted on 25/8/23
Very harsh on Ayling, been a terrific defender for us.
^^^
Twisting like a pretzel to make that statement.
Bill's a solid leader on and off the pitch.
Advances the ball.
Works very hard and has a massive heart.
Understands the club and fans.
Part of the Bielsa legends team.
Scores goals. And good ones at that.
And is responsible for too many conceded goals.
Can't defend. Most if not all attacks start on his side.
For good reason. Love the bloke but, time to phase
him out if we're serious about promotion.
I will add though, great bloke to have in the squad
this season. At his age, could see him at a lower
end Championship club or top League One side
next season.
posted on 25/8/23
I agree with all these points with the exception of that he was responsible for too many goals against. Sure he played his part but so many times while he got the blame other were culpable also.
As for firpo, I'd keep him in the squad at least until we can see what he can do in this league.
posted on 25/8/23
"Can't defend. Most if not all attacks start on his side."
Because he's been asked to play further up the pitch.
He said this post WBA.
posted on 25/8/23
Totally agree Jonty. Surprised how far up up Ayling actually has been asked to play. No support either on the right
posted on 25/8/23
Doesn’t explain Bill’s part in the most woeful defence
In Prem’s recent history. Don’t take my word for it.
Take Farke’s. He all but signed Aaron’s. Was in for Williams. Now in for Spence. All RBs. Bill’s a great
Club servant who I really like. But, time to improve.
posted on 25/8/23
comment by Batty (U4664)
posted 1 minute ago
Doesn’t explain Bill’s part in the most woeful defence
In Prem’s recent history. Don’t take my word for it.
Take Farke’s. He all but signed Aaron’s. Was in for Williams. Now in for Spence. All RBs. Bill’s a great
Club servant who I really like. But, time to improve.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Hard for any deference to be hugely successful with Llorente, Firpo and Struijk
Even more so with marsch managing.
posted on 25/8/23
Williams is a left back
posted on 25/8/23
He can play both sides, just like Byram.
posted on 25/8/23
He can play both sides, but he has spent almost his entire senior career utilised as a LB. Also, that was just one rumour and don't think any reliable journalist ever supported it.
posted on 26/8/23
So either way you look at it, Farke saw Byram or
Williams as better than Bill - which they are. So,
Farke, if he got Williams, could've played him left
or right. Or vice versa Byram. And to say the links
to Williams aren't credible is daft. They were real.
Bill, love him, is not a viable, promotion winning
right back any more. And that's why Frake is looking
for replacements. Sentimental FC needs to die and
go away. Orta brainwashed a section of fans into
thinking the players he signed were fabulous.
They aren't. Bielsa was a magician. Without MB they
are what they are: aging lower tier, big hearted,
high football IQ, legends. But even they succumb
to father time.
I think the 49ers realize that too. 30+ year olds who
manned a woeful team aren't getting us back up.
posted on 26/8/23
"Orta brainwashed a section of fans into
thinking the players he signed were fabulous."
Orta didn't sign Ayling.
posted on 26/8/23
* And when I say legends, I mean in the same vein as
the Jamaican bob sled team. Punched way above their
weight and stunned the sporting world in the moment.
A couple in that team were brilliant. Yorkshire Pirlo
and Ben White for instance.
posted on 26/8/23
Jonty, you loathed the signing of Ayling at the time.
I seem to remember you trashing him over some
incident where he was accused of spitting. You did
not like that the club signed him at all.
I really like Ayling. I do. But time has caught up.
Same way time has caught up to Coops (who I love)
and Dallas.
Bamford's just sh 1 t. And over rated. Orta loved
spreading the idea that a modern striker didn't need
to score fcking goals. Hahahaha. Orta was just
trying to impress Monchi. And Monchi didn't give
a flying fck about Orta. Or his sh 1 t signings.
posted on 26/8/23
And
Happy Birthday Luke if you're reading.
Love you pal.
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