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posted on 31/8/23

Maybe United are hiding behind ffp restrictions that just aren’t ther.

posted on 31/8/23

City and PSG got away with it, so Chelsea are now saying F it. They will spend now, maybe get band for season from the Europe, but have a great squad for a number of years.
Glazers aren't staying long term, they will still sell eventually. So, they won't spend like that and thinkmofnlong term. They want short term CL so they cab have enough for dividends and keep the value relatively high for the sale.

posted on 31/8/23

comment by He who Dares, waits for Trophies (U15748)
posted 1 hour, 28 minutes ago
comment by Two Balls, One Saka (U19684)
posted 17 minutes ago
In regard to Fati, Brighton are probably the best club in the world a young player looking to shine could choose to go right now. Seems a good move for the player
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Amazing if he is going to Brighton, that he turned down Liverpool and Spurs. How these two are scraping the floor. Liverpool lost out again- 4 players now if you include VDV to Spurs. Never thought this would happen.
I think Spurs were turned down due to wage demands. Levy would only pay in rice grains
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We weren’t in for Fati ffs, we have 5 forwards

posted on 31/8/23

we will be in with a late bid for his less famous brother lipo-fatti who has never kicked a ball in his life.

posted on 31/8/23

Is Buster Bloodvessle available, United may be interested

posted on 31/8/23

comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 7 minutes ago
Maybe United are hiding behind ffp restrictions that just aren’t ther.
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No one's buying their fake cries of poverty.

The United marketing machine is projected to declare revenues well in excess of £600m for 2022/23.

And that was without Champions League money.

posted on 31/8/23

TBF the FFP restrictions that we've been told about doesn't mean the club have no money, they just aren't allowed to spend it based on the FFP rules without punishment. What the exact punishment would be we don't seem to know?

But part of me feels that maybe the owners are using it as an excuse to not spend more money.

posted on 31/8/23

comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 10 minutes ago
Is Buster Bloodvessle available, United may be interested
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https://youtu.be/Ha4NHacX2kE?si=1dUokJWXoZmoauI6

Tune!

posted on 31/8/23

comment by Gillespie Rd. (U18361)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 7 minutes ago
Maybe United are hiding behind ffp restrictions that just aren’t ther.
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No one's buying their fake cries of poverty.

The United marketing machine is projected to declare revenues well in excess of £600m for 2022/23.

And that was without Champions League money.
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Yeah and the GLAZER debt is now close to 750m. Where do you think the rest of the money goes when it's not going on wages and transfers? We have a huge debt to pay off. Their debt.

We aren't a charity case club like City and Chelsea that can't pay their own way.

posted on 31/8/23

comment by manutd1982 (U6633)
posted 5 minutes ago
TBF the FFP restrictions that we've been told about doesn't mean the club have no money, they just aren't allowed to spend it based on the FFP rules without punishment. What the exact punishment would be we don't seem to know?

But part of me feels that maybe the owners are using it as an excuse to not spend more money.
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Arnold told fans in that pub last summer that the following summer wouldn't be a huge one. FFP is definitely more serious than some think it is. Real Madrid n Barcelona are certainly taking it seriously.

Let's not forget City still have to face the consequences of their actions. Chelsea have recently been caught out in dodgy financial reporting too dating back to the Abramovich days. UEFA n PL will be looking into that.

It's one thing breaking the FFP limits because of pandemic and such. It's entirely another when clubs are falsely reporting inaccurate information. Basically fraud.

posted on 31/8/23

comment by Bobby Dazzler (U1449)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 10 minutes ago
Is Buster Bloodvessle available, United may be interested
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https://youtu.be/Ha4NHacX2kE?si=1dUokJWXoZmoauI6

Tune!
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I was a huge fan of Bad Manners back in the day.

I’m just bad mannered now

posted on 31/8/23

comment by Garnacho cheese (U5318)
posted 28 minutes ago
City and PSG got away with it, so Chelsea are now saying F it. They will spend now, maybe get band for season from the Europe, but have a great squad for a number of years.
Glazers aren't staying long term, they will still sell eventually. So, they won't spend like that and thinkmofnlong term. They want short term CL so they cab have enough for dividends and keep the value relatively high for the sale.
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You need to wake up and have a coffee, you’re still dreaming

posted on 31/8/23

Remember when journalists said we had roughly 120m net to spend this summer?

Turns out it's looking very accurate.

We've spent roughly 170m so far and brought back in close to 50m give or take.

We definitely have some cash reserves so that number hasn't been plucked out of thin air. FFP clearly isn't a throw away thing that isn't being taken seriously.

Chelsea have had to sell a lot of players this summer to comply and also put their signings on ridiculous contracts (before they changed the ruling).

City don't have any financial worries due to their prize money and being able to sell their unwanted players. It's what came before it that led them to this point that people have an issue with.

posted on 31/8/23

comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Gillespie Rd. (U18361)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 7 minutes ago
Maybe United are hiding behind ffp restrictions that just aren’t ther.
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No one's buying their fake cries of poverty.

The United marketing machine is projected to declare revenues well in excess of £600m for 2022/23.

And that was without Champions League money.
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Yeah and the GLAZER debt is now close to 750m. Where do you think the rest of the money goes when it's not going on wages and transfers? We have a huge debt to pay off. Their debt.

We aren't a charity case club like City and Chelsea that can't pay their own way.
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Every club has commitments. The £21m that was paid out as interest payment in 2021/22 was a drop in the ocean for United.

posted on 31/8/23

comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Bobby Dazzler (U1449)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 10 minutes ago
Is Buster Bloodvessle available, United may be interested
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https://youtu.be/Ha4NHacX2kE?si=1dUokJWXoZmoauI6

Tune!
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I was a huge fan of Bad Manners back in the day.

I’m just bad mannered now
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I saw Bad Manners back in the day. In the biggest student venue in London. There were more people in the band than there were in the audience. Yet they still played their full 2 hour set to us.

posted on 31/8/23

SE85

Barca literally have no money, they pulled all their levers last summer and are in the middle of rebuiding their stadium. Real spent over £100m on Bellingham and are willing to spend way more on Mbappe this summer if they need to, they have money.

I'm sure there is some truth in FFP but I just don't buy the punishment would ever be that bad if we were to spend a few million over. I know we got an FFP related fine the other month for last season and we obviously don't want to rack them up but for the sake of saving our season I reckon we could spend over the supposed FFP limit and live with the punishment.

posted on 31/8/23

comment by RB&W - Whiteside has done it again (U21434)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Bobby Dazzler (U1449)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 10 minutes ago
Is Buster Bloodvessle available, United may be interested
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https://youtu.be/Ha4NHacX2kE?si=1dUokJWXoZmoauI6

Tune!
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I was a huge fan of Bad Manners back in the day.

I’m just bad mannered now
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I saw Bad Manners back in the day. In the biggest student venue in London. There were more people in the band than there were in the audience. Yet they still played their full 2 hour set to us.
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good old days

posted on 31/8/23

comment by manutd1982 (U6633)
posted 2 minutes ago
SE85

Barca literally have no money, they pulled all their levers last summer and are in the middle of rebuiding their stadium. Real spent over £100m on Bellingham and are willing to spend way more on Mbappe this summer if they need to, they have money.

I'm sure there is some truth in FFP but I just don't buy the punishment would ever be that bad if we were to spend a few million over. I know we got an FFP related fine the other month for last season and we obviously don't want to rack them up but for the sake of saving our season I reckon we could spend over the supposed FFP limit and live with the punishment.
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Well there's that....and there's also the fact our club spends money that we make. Nothing else is topped up. Not a single penny has been put back in from the Glazers since their initial 330m buyout (with the rest borrowed against the club)

Chelsea and City don't make the money they require to do what they do. It's been massively inflated. Right now City don't need it to be inflated though tbf with their prize money and being able to shift most of their deadwood. But they couldn't have got here without a huge investment of roughly 1.5bn to 2bn.

posted on 31/8/23

But that's what I'm saying, the Glazer's are sh-t. Owners can top up the clubs transfer kitty with their own money and every single owner in the PL has done so except 1, guess who? I just think the owners are refusing to spend more money and FFP is being overstated as an excuse.

posted on 31/8/23

That can't be his first name, surely it's an anagram

posted on 31/8/23

comment by Gillespie Rd. (U18361)
posted 18 minutes ago
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Gillespie Rd. (U18361)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 7 minutes ago
Maybe United are hiding behind ffp restrictions that just aren’t ther.
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No one's buying their fake cries of poverty.

The United marketing machine is projected to declare revenues well in excess of £600m for 2022/23.

And that was without Champions League money.
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Yeah and the GLAZER debt is now close to 750m. Where do you think the rest of the money goes when it's not going on wages and transfers? We have a huge debt to pay off. Their debt.

We aren't a charity case club like City and Chelsea that can't pay their own way.
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Every club has commitments. The £21m that was paid out as interest payment in 2021/22 was a drop in the ocean for United.
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£21m might seem a drop in the ocean compared to the revenue we generate. However when you compare it to the actual profit we make it's a totally different story. The club doesn't post huge profits like it once did.

Our wage bill got out of hand for example and thankfully now it's much healthier with huge earners like Pogba Cavani Ronaldo and DDG all now gone.

Football finances have moved on. We are no longer top dogs because there are now countries involved in the game who have unlimited amounts of money.

posted on 31/8/23

comment by manutd1982 (U6633)
posted 3 minutes ago
But that's what I'm saying, the Glazer's are sh-t. Owners can top up the clubs transfer kitty with their own money and every single owner in the PL has done so except 1, guess who? I just think the owners are refusing to spend more money and FFP is being overstated as an excuse.
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I read something about £90m being the figure that can be pumped in but not sure over how long. That seems high per year so it's probably for a longer period.

But as you said.....that isn't happening under the Glazers. They won't put in 90 dollars let alone 90million.

The takeover is going to have to happen soon as the club is on its backside and they know it is.

posted on 31/8/23

The difference with City is they have Pep (I say they but probably down to Pep) do target players that fit and will work in Pep's system(s) of play else they/he don't bother with them.

We (and other clubs) mostly just sign players because we think are good or may become good. Probably a fundamental flaw in our process for sure. We could learn a lot and improve as a team if we copied this.

However this only works if you stick with the same manger/coach for a number of years so from the off we fecked on that score.

posted on 31/8/23

comment by JimmyGreaves (U21183)
posted 1 minute ago
The difference with City is they have Pep (I say they but probably down to Pep) do target players that fit and will work in Pep's system(s) of play else they/he don't bother with them.

We (and other clubs) mostly just sign players because we think are good or may become good. Probably a fundamental flaw in our process for sure. We could learn a lot and improve as a team if we copied this.

However this only works if you stick with the same manger/coach for a number of years so from the off we fecked on that score.
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Oh Pep is a genius and is no doubt a huge pull for players. That's totally fine and I get that.

Let's not pretend City weren't winning titles before he arrived though. They won it under Mancini and Pellegrini let's not forget and still managed to attract top players.

City has been transformed by oil money. Without it there would be no Pep would there?

If we follow suit and get taken over by Qatar then you just watch the reaction of the rest of the football league. It will cause a lot more shockwaves than City did. Personally I would have preferred had all this nonsense never been allowed in the first place and also the Glazer leveraged buy out wasn't either.

posted on 31/8/23

Fati deal might not be dead after all..I have more or less given up now. Might be a little lightweight for the EPL anyway but lets see where he ends up.

https://tbrfootball.com/sky-sports-news-have-just-dropped-a-very-interesting-update-about-tottenham-and-ansu-fati/

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