I doubt a single one of them had added value to their transfer fee do far. Jackson maybe.
Mudryk is probably worth about half what they paid snd I could go on.
Bet they make Brentford an offer they can’t refuse for Toney. A billion in and they’ve just spotted they’ve not got a goal scorer.
comment by Kamikaze Blue (U7450)
posted 19 minutes ago
Bet they make Brentford an offer they can’t refuse for Toney. A billion in and they’ve just spotted they’ve not got a goal scorer.
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Good shout that
comment by Kamikaze Blue (U7450)
posted 23 minutes ago
Bet they make Brentford an offer they can’t refuse for Toney. A billion in and they’ve just spotted they’ve not got a goal scorer.
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Too old, he’s above 25.
comment by Striketeam7 - There used to be a football club over there (U18109)
posted 56 minutes ago
Boehly thought by buying 20 of the hottest young prospects in football, about half are bound to pan out - but football doesn’t work like that. The players have to be right for the club as well - look at Eriksen, De Bruyne, Salah - all with Chelsea at one point but never made it there.
Injury, form, personality, confidence - all these things can stop the players with the very highest potential from succeeding at any one club
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Agree with this. Chelsea have always been a club that buys top players for their first team. They've hardly ever been a club that develops any of the potential they sign into genuine first team quality players. They make profits by selling those off.
comment by Afc1989 (U21076)
posted 1 hour, 11 minutes ago
Their transfer model pretty much depends on resale values.
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How do you resale a player on a 7 year contract being paid loads of money?
These prospects can sit on their contracts until their early 30s... no resale value there.
Surely Chelsea will want to keep the players that are a hit, it will be impossible to move on the flops
comment by Sporty and Portly - LFC (U8531)
posted 46 seconds ago
comment by Afc1989 (U21076)
posted 1 hour, 11 minutes ago
Their transfer model pretty much depends on resale values.
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How do you resale a player on a 7 year contract being paid loads of money?
These prospects can sit on their contracts until their early 30s... no resale value there.
Surely Chelsea will want to keep the players that are a hit, it will be impossible to move on the flops
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A) Saudi
B) you just pick up loan fees and get the wages off the book
Don’t forget Chelsea have been supplementing this business by also selling academy graduates as they show as pure profit - Mount, Colwill and they were open to selling Gallagher.
comment by Striketeam7 - There used to be a football club over there (U18109)
posted 32 minutes ago
comment by Sporty and Portly - LFC (U8531)
posted 46 seconds ago
comment by Afc1989 (U21076)
posted 1 hour, 11 minutes ago
Their transfer model pretty much depends on resale values.
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How do you resale a player on a 7 year contract being paid loads of money?
These prospects can sit on their contracts until their early 30s... no resale value there.
Surely Chelsea will want to keep the players that are a hit, it will be impossible to move on the flops
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A) Saudi
B) you just pick up loan fees and get the wages off the book
Don’t forget Chelsea have been supplementing this business by also selling academy graduates as they show as pure profit - Mount, Colwill and they were open to selling Gallagher.
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Their old model was very successful the new one clearly has much more risk in it.
We've already seen players refuse loans and transfers this will only get worse. Loan deals won't cover the wages Chelsea are paying, at best they will have to pay a proportion of them.
Saudi is an option but no guarantee there.
I'm not saying it won't work but the potential flaws in the policy are very clear to see
God bless Toddy B
Maddison has settled in very well
comment by Striketeam7 - There used to be a football club over there (U18109)
posted 3 hours, 9 minutes ago
Boehly thought by buying 20 of the hottest young prospects in football, about half are bound to pan out - but football doesn’t work like that. The players have to be right for the club as well - look at Eriksen, De Bruyne, Salah - all with Chelsea at one point but never made it there.
Injury, form, personality, confidence - all these things can stop the players with the very highest potential from succeeding at any one club
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Eriksen was at chelsea!?
I get the idea of wanting young players in your squad but 26 is still young and footballers can last for longer than they did in previous eras. Just an unnecessarily impractical and ageist way of looking at it really.
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 23 minutes ago
I get the idea of wanting young players in your squad but 26 is still young and footballers can last for longer than they did in previous eras. Just an unnecessarily impractical and ageist way of looking at it really.
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It is, but for Chelsea to amortise the deal the same way they have for the likes of Lavia, by the time his contract would be close to expiring, his resale value would be nowhere near as high.
Haven't agree with the owners approach on recruitment from the beginning, pretty much everything has been wrong.
(a) allowing a manager to play DoF & sign almost everyone he wants - fee & wages immaterial. Risky strategy anyway but if you do it, maybe keep said manager for longer than a week after the transfer window shuts. It's like going all in then leaving the table before the hands even dealt, makes zero sense.
(b) Going the opposite direction & hiring a thousand recruitment "experts" (which is unnecessary, imo, in itself), then only signing players who any passive Football Manager or FIFA fan could've told you about... but with a plan you see, because they're all young
(c) Not overloading players in sink with the mass inflex of players creating perpetual imbalances in the squad + giving the manager a really hard job trying to maintain morale & establish camaraderie on the pitch.
Lot of grandiose gestures & statements, little substance.
Some of the subtleties of football management will be lost on corporate bods like Boehly. They're used to seeing an issue and solving it with money.
In the footballing world, you cannot throw together players like some sort of globe trotters team.
You cannot just buy players based on quality or potential without doing due diligence on their mentality/attitude etc.
You can look at players like NDombele at Spurs, may be Snacho at United and see a ton of talent but a sucky or fragile mentality.
If you give a young player a ton of money and a huge 8 year contract, you will likely never get the best out of him. That player is set for life, where is the hunger. They really need to have a seriously strong winning attitude and desire to succeed, otherwise they can easily just be a passenger and take home their £15m a year win lose or draw.
If you take this approach across a lot of the squad then the chances of it failing are even greater .
We have seen player power at Chelsea see off managers, successful managers like Jose. These players all on long contracts and big wages are almost immoveable. If anything has to give its the manager and then the new man is stuck with the same problem.
To me Boehly seems to have this American view of transfers, like their drafting system...but in this league you dont have to wait your turn to make your pick, you can just pick all the best ones by bidding the highest. He must be like "wow! dont Forest (17th) get to choose who to buy first?" "You mean we can just buy them all? sweet! lets do that!"
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 3 hours, 37 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - There used to be a football club over there (U18109)
posted 3 hours, 9 minutes ago
Boehly thought by buying 20 of the hottest young prospects in football, about half are bound to pan out - but football doesn’t work like that. The players have to be right for the club as well - look at Eriksen, De Bruyne, Salah - all with Chelsea at one point but never made it there.
Injury, form, personality, confidence - all these things can stop the players with the very highest potential from succeeding at any one club
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Eriksen was at chelsea!?
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He was very much on Chelsea’s radar as a youngster and had 2 trials with them:
https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/christian-eriksen-reveals-nearly-joined-6957451.amp
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posted on 5/9/23
I doubt a single one of them had added value to their transfer fee do far. Jackson maybe.
Mudryk is probably worth about half what they paid snd I could go on.
posted on 5/9/23
Bet they make Brentford an offer they can’t refuse for Toney. A billion in and they’ve just spotted they’ve not got a goal scorer.
posted on 5/9/23
comment by Kamikaze Blue (U7450)
posted 19 minutes ago
Bet they make Brentford an offer they can’t refuse for Toney. A billion in and they’ve just spotted they’ve not got a goal scorer.
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Good shout that
posted on 5/9/23
comment by Kamikaze Blue (U7450)
posted 23 minutes ago
Bet they make Brentford an offer they can’t refuse for Toney. A billion in and they’ve just spotted they’ve not got a goal scorer.
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Too old, he’s above 25.
posted on 5/9/23
comment by Striketeam7 - There used to be a football club over there (U18109)
posted 56 minutes ago
Boehly thought by buying 20 of the hottest young prospects in football, about half are bound to pan out - but football doesn’t work like that. The players have to be right for the club as well - look at Eriksen, De Bruyne, Salah - all with Chelsea at one point but never made it there.
Injury, form, personality, confidence - all these things can stop the players with the very highest potential from succeeding at any one club
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Agree with this. Chelsea have always been a club that buys top players for their first team. They've hardly ever been a club that develops any of the potential they sign into genuine first team quality players. They make profits by selling those off.
posted on 5/9/23
comment by Afc1989 (U21076)
posted 1 hour, 11 minutes ago
Their transfer model pretty much depends on resale values.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
How do you resale a player on a 7 year contract being paid loads of money?
These prospects can sit on their contracts until their early 30s... no resale value there.
Surely Chelsea will want to keep the players that are a hit, it will be impossible to move on the flops
posted on 5/9/23
comment by Sporty and Portly - LFC (U8531)
posted 46 seconds ago
comment by Afc1989 (U21076)
posted 1 hour, 11 minutes ago
Their transfer model pretty much depends on resale values.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
How do you resale a player on a 7 year contract being paid loads of money?
These prospects can sit on their contracts until their early 30s... no resale value there.
Surely Chelsea will want to keep the players that are a hit, it will be impossible to move on the flops
----------------------------------------------------------------------
A) Saudi
B) you just pick up loan fees and get the wages off the book
Don’t forget Chelsea have been supplementing this business by also selling academy graduates as they show as pure profit - Mount, Colwill and they were open to selling Gallagher.
posted on 5/9/23
comment by Striketeam7 - There used to be a football club over there (U18109)
posted 32 minutes ago
comment by Sporty and Portly - LFC (U8531)
posted 46 seconds ago
comment by Afc1989 (U21076)
posted 1 hour, 11 minutes ago
Their transfer model pretty much depends on resale values.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
How do you resale a player on a 7 year contract being paid loads of money?
These prospects can sit on their contracts until their early 30s... no resale value there.
Surely Chelsea will want to keep the players that are a hit, it will be impossible to move on the flops
----------------------------------------------------------------------
A) Saudi
B) you just pick up loan fees and get the wages off the book
Don’t forget Chelsea have been supplementing this business by also selling academy graduates as they show as pure profit - Mount, Colwill and they were open to selling Gallagher.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Their old model was very successful the new one clearly has much more risk in it.
We've already seen players refuse loans and transfers this will only get worse. Loan deals won't cover the wages Chelsea are paying, at best they will have to pay a proportion of them.
Saudi is an option but no guarantee there.
I'm not saying it won't work but the potential flaws in the policy are very clear to see
posted on 5/9/23
God bless Toddy B
Maddison has settled in very well
posted on 5/9/23
comment by Striketeam7 - There used to be a football club over there (U18109)
posted 3 hours, 9 minutes ago
Boehly thought by buying 20 of the hottest young prospects in football, about half are bound to pan out - but football doesn’t work like that. The players have to be right for the club as well - look at Eriksen, De Bruyne, Salah - all with Chelsea at one point but never made it there.
Injury, form, personality, confidence - all these things can stop the players with the very highest potential from succeeding at any one club
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Eriksen was at chelsea!?
posted on 5/9/23
I get the idea of wanting young players in your squad but 26 is still young and footballers can last for longer than they did in previous eras. Just an unnecessarily impractical and ageist way of looking at it really.
posted on 5/9/23
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 23 minutes ago
I get the idea of wanting young players in your squad but 26 is still young and footballers can last for longer than they did in previous eras. Just an unnecessarily impractical and ageist way of looking at it really.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It is, but for Chelsea to amortise the deal the same way they have for the likes of Lavia, by the time his contract would be close to expiring, his resale value would be nowhere near as high.
posted on 5/9/23
Haven't agree with the owners approach on recruitment from the beginning, pretty much everything has been wrong.
(a) allowing a manager to play DoF & sign almost everyone he wants - fee & wages immaterial. Risky strategy anyway but if you do it, maybe keep said manager for longer than a week after the transfer window shuts. It's like going all in then leaving the table before the hands even dealt, makes zero sense.
(b) Going the opposite direction & hiring a thousand recruitment "experts" (which is unnecessary, imo, in itself), then only signing players who any passive Football Manager or FIFA fan could've told you about... but with a plan you see, because they're all young
(c) Not overloading players in sink with the mass inflex of players creating perpetual imbalances in the squad + giving the manager a really hard job trying to maintain morale & establish camaraderie on the pitch.
Lot of grandiose gestures & statements, little substance.
posted on 5/9/23
Some of the subtleties of football management will be lost on corporate bods like Boehly. They're used to seeing an issue and solving it with money.
In the footballing world, you cannot throw together players like some sort of globe trotters team.
You cannot just buy players based on quality or potential without doing due diligence on their mentality/attitude etc.
You can look at players like NDombele at Spurs, may be Snacho at United and see a ton of talent but a sucky or fragile mentality.
If you give a young player a ton of money and a huge 8 year contract, you will likely never get the best out of him. That player is set for life, where is the hunger. They really need to have a seriously strong winning attitude and desire to succeed, otherwise they can easily just be a passenger and take home their £15m a year win lose or draw.
If you take this approach across a lot of the squad then the chances of it failing are even greater .
We have seen player power at Chelsea see off managers, successful managers like Jose. These players all on long contracts and big wages are almost immoveable. If anything has to give its the manager and then the new man is stuck with the same problem.
To me Boehly seems to have this American view of transfers, like their drafting system...but in this league you dont have to wait your turn to make your pick, you can just pick all the best ones by bidding the highest. He must be like "wow! dont Forest (17th) get to choose who to buy first?" "You mean we can just buy them all? sweet! lets do that!"
posted on 5/9/23
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 3 hours, 37 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - There used to be a football club over there (U18109)
posted 3 hours, 9 minutes ago
Boehly thought by buying 20 of the hottest young prospects in football, about half are bound to pan out - but football doesn’t work like that. The players have to be right for the club as well - look at Eriksen, De Bruyne, Salah - all with Chelsea at one point but never made it there.
Injury, form, personality, confidence - all these things can stop the players with the very highest potential from succeeding at any one club
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Eriksen was at chelsea!?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
He was very much on Chelsea’s radar as a youngster and had 2 trials with them:
https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/christian-eriksen-reveals-nearly-joined-6957451.amp
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