comment by JFK (U8919)
posted 49 minutes ago
the year with steven fletcher, when you hear him talk about it, a few hundred thousand that imo would have helped win us the league that year.
not to mention the mcginn one, absolute disgrace that, all down to him either not being driven enough to care about the squad or not wanting to spend money.
either way, he's a whank.
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comment by JFK (U8919)
posted 1 hour, 4 minutes ago
the year with steven fletcher, when you hear him talk about it, a few hundred thousand that imo would have helped win us the league that year.
not to mention the mcginn one, absolute disgrace that, all down to him either not being driven enough to care about the squad or not wanting to spend money.
either way, he's a whank.
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Lawell steps away and Turnbull starts every game for the next 3 years
or
Lawell stays and Turnbull never plays again
JFK's Hobson's choice
i'd support st mirren instead.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-66853131
Seeking to settle the CA cases. That’ll account for some of the money then.
comment by Changing my name from My POV - but not decided what to change it to yet (U10636)
posted 2 minutes ago
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-66853131
Seeking to settle the CA cases. That’ll account for some of the money then.
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BBC doing their best on champions league match day. Their other Celtic story today is about how we have the lowest notional squad value of all the CL teams.
i hate it, someone should pay but i don't think the club are responsible for this.
people are, people who done it, people who were aware it was happening, people who hired them aware of rumour or truth.
i feel like by going for a club its goin after something that had nothing to do with it other than being a vessell.
people do these things.
comment by Call Sign (U3627)
posted 2 hours, 24 minutes ago
To have that amount of profit in the accounts makes me think it could be one or a combination of-
1. The CA cases
2. Investment in Barrowfield for the Ladies team
3. Building up a pot to have one full on crack at Europe
4. Scared of not making the CL for a few years so being far too cautious
5. Wanting to print off the bank statements to wave them in the Rangers directors faces
6. So that we have to play Turnbull and Forrest for the next 4 years
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Number 1 just confirmed then. About time something was done to very belatedly offer some form of reparation, albeit money alone can never really do that.
comment by JFK (U8919)
posted 9 minutes ago
i hate it, someone should pay but i don't think the club are responsible for this.
people are, people who done it, people who were aware it was happening, people who hired them aware of rumour or truth.
i feel like by going for a club its goin after something that had nothing to do with it other than being a vessell.
people do these things.
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I don’t necessarily disagree, but it’s the way of the world. Money talks, and I doubt the money the victims and their lawyers want would be covered by the sick ba5tards that did it.
The issue is-and always will be-why wasn’t more done to deal with it at the time? That ends up in a circular argument about people again to some extent, but the Celtic entity as a whole is what’s being sued.
We should have dealt with this long before now.
money has to be part of it because it can make your life better but it's not therapuetic.
you are correct that its the way of the world, the big cheese that employs gets the focus more than the person so it will always come down to them.
i do find it unfair that lawwell and the likes need to deal with this as if they are the perpetrators when they had no involvement whatsoever.
i'd drag ever basturd that knew about it in to face the the consequence of their indifference, of their vile stupidity.
if they don't already, the club should offer therapy.
SM is vile. Gone from Celtic should pay out and not put the victims through reliving in court to suddenly fck this right off, tell them to GTF and have it heard in court.
i try to avoid it.
plenty of people who are up in arms about this focus purely on celtic, not on any other club, industry, children groups, childrens homes, schools, nothing.
more interested in the fact its celtic and it honestly pure sickens me.
you seen it on twitter when there was a hint that more clubs had it, cvnts giddy and hopeful that something would come out about their rivals, actually wanting kids to have been molested.
sick basturds.
comment by Changing my name from My POV - but not decided... (U10636)
posted 58 minutes ago
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-66853131
Seeking to settle the CA cases. That’ll account for some of the money then.
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Not so sure and even if so it’ll be small beer (with all respect to any victims). The level of payment for such cases is a disgrace in my opinion.
And then there’s every likelihood that insurance will come onto play.
No matter what we pay, it will never be enough and I for one don’t ever think it could be.
It'll probably be between one and two million pounds for each victim. That's, apparently, the current rate for this type of compensation.
Even discussing this shiiit doesn't sit right.
People preying on kids ain't human.
comment by Zico - Celtic Treble Winners 22/23 (U21900)
posted 1 minute ago
It'll probably be between one and two million pounds for each victim. That's, apparently, the current rate for this type of compensation.
Even discussing this shiiit doesn't sit right.
People preying on kids ain't human.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Doubt it will be anywhere near that. Look at the historical compensation claims and rough “guidelines”.
It’s pitiful.
comment by Zico - Celtic Treble Winners 22/23 (U21900)
posted 3 minutes ago
It'll probably be between one and two million pounds for each victim. That's, apparently, the current rate for this type of compensation.
Even discussing this shiiit doesn't sit right.
People preying on kids ain't human.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I don’t think that’s the case with out of court settlements. Think the scheme Man City had was much, much less.
This is the issue.
what is a "fair" figure for such suffering exactly?
how the f... do you put a number on that.
i stand by the opinion i've always held about accountability, legally celtic may not have been affiliated but it's clear they were, just do the right thing.
That goes for Rangers as well, can't give it 55 titles and then say "that was the old club". That's disgusting.
comment by Changing my name from My POV - but not decided... (U10636)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Zico - Celtic Treble Winners 22/23 (U21900)
posted 3 minutes ago
It'll probably be between one and two million pounds for each victim. That's, apparently, the current rate for this type of compensation.
Even discussing this shiiit doesn't sit right.
People preying on kids ain't human.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I don’t think that’s the case with out of court settlements. Think the scheme Man City had was much, much less.
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It’ll be even lower than Man City’s I think.
As has been said though, it feels awful talking about levels of payment. And even then as a class action the lawyers will scoop minimum 25-30% of the award most likely.
once there has been a payout and a form of justice, it will be good for those really fierce about it on twitter to focus on other cases.
they won't though.
Can’t admit to having more than a two second glance but surprised Celtic seem to still have a net current liability position given results last few years
comment by Changing my name from My POV - but not decided what to change it to yet (U10636)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Zico - Celtic Treble Winners 22/23 (U21900)
posted 3 minutes ago
It'll probably be between one and two million pounds for each victim. That's, apparently, the current rate for this type of compensation.
Even discussing this shiiit doesn't sit right.
People preying on kids ain't human.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I don’t think that’s the case with out of court settlements. Think the scheme Man City had was much, much less.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
From a Lawyers website:
"The cases noted below are at a variety of stages. Of those which are now complete, and where a settlement has been reached, compensation payments to clients have varied from between £40,000 and £1.75m"
I hope the victims get a just settlement.
comment by JFK (U8919)
posted 1 minute ago
once there has been a payout and a form of justice, it will be good for those really fierce about it on twitter to focus on other cases.
they won't though.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Of course not. No matter what it is, it’ll never be enough for anyone really.
I’ve got my own thoughts on where I think it’ll end up. Just please that it’s being dealt with
i get the clubs stance previously, people today being made to look like the people behind it while those who knew or suspected sit at home.
it's schite.
that said, there was a link there, and i expect better of my club than to turn its back on it.
we should have addressed it head on.
comment by JFK (U8919)
posted 7 minutes ago
This is the issue.
what is a "fair" figure for such suffering exactly?
====
There isn't a 'fair' figure, money can't fix it.
Hopefully it goes some small way to bring some sort of closure.. , that's all we can say.
Being a parent of one of the victims.. Horrible to even think about.
comment by Zico - Celtic Treble Winners 22/23 (U21900)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by Changing my name from My POV - but not decided what to change it to yet (U10636)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Zico - Celtic Treble Winners 22/23 (U21900)
posted 3 minutes ago
It'll probably be between one and two million pounds for each victim. That's, apparently, the current rate for this type of compensation.
Even discussing this shiiit doesn't sit right.
People preying on kids ain't human.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I don’t think that’s the case with out of court settlements. Think the scheme Man City had was much, much less.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
From a Lawyers website:
"The cases noted below are at a variety of stages. Of those which are now complete, and where a settlement has been reached, compensation payments to clients have varied from between £40,000 and £1.75m"
I hope the victims get a just settlement.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I suspect the settlements will be made with a legal statement made that confirms the separation of the two entities, but with something along the lines of "the football club benefitted from the close working relationship it had with the boys club"
That gives the club a degree of legal protection whilst doing the right thing by the victims.
It's about time that the victims got this settlement and a small degree of closure.
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posted on 19/9/23
comment by JFK (U8919)
posted 49 minutes ago
the year with steven fletcher, when you hear him talk about it, a few hundred thousand that imo would have helped win us the league that year.
not to mention the mcginn one, absolute disgrace that, all down to him either not being driven enough to care about the squad or not wanting to spend money.
either way, he's a whank.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
posted on 19/9/23
Cheers 👍
posted on 19/9/23
comment by JFK (U8919)
posted 1 hour, 4 minutes ago
the year with steven fletcher, when you hear him talk about it, a few hundred thousand that imo would have helped win us the league that year.
not to mention the mcginn one, absolute disgrace that, all down to him either not being driven enough to care about the squad or not wanting to spend money.
either way, he's a whank.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Lawell steps away and Turnbull starts every game for the next 3 years
or
Lawell stays and Turnbull never plays again
JFK's Hobson's choice
posted on 19/9/23
i'd support st mirren instead.
posted on 19/9/23
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-66853131
Seeking to settle the CA cases. That’ll account for some of the money then.
posted on 19/9/23
comment by Changing my name from My POV - but not decided what to change it to yet (U10636)
posted 2 minutes ago
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-66853131
Seeking to settle the CA cases. That’ll account for some of the money then.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
BBC doing their best on champions league match day. Their other Celtic story today is about how we have the lowest notional squad value of all the CL teams.
posted on 19/9/23
i hate it, someone should pay but i don't think the club are responsible for this.
people are, people who done it, people who were aware it was happening, people who hired them aware of rumour or truth.
i feel like by going for a club its goin after something that had nothing to do with it other than being a vessell.
people do these things.
posted on 19/9/23
comment by Call Sign (U3627)
posted 2 hours, 24 minutes ago
To have that amount of profit in the accounts makes me think it could be one or a combination of-
1. The CA cases
2. Investment in Barrowfield for the Ladies team
3. Building up a pot to have one full on crack at Europe
4. Scared of not making the CL for a few years so being far too cautious
5. Wanting to print off the bank statements to wave them in the Rangers directors faces
6. So that we have to play Turnbull and Forrest for the next 4 years
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Number 1 just confirmed then. About time something was done to very belatedly offer some form of reparation, albeit money alone can never really do that.
posted on 19/9/23
comment by JFK (U8919)
posted 9 minutes ago
i hate it, someone should pay but i don't think the club are responsible for this.
people are, people who done it, people who were aware it was happening, people who hired them aware of rumour or truth.
i feel like by going for a club its goin after something that had nothing to do with it other than being a vessell.
people do these things.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I don’t necessarily disagree, but it’s the way of the world. Money talks, and I doubt the money the victims and their lawyers want would be covered by the sick ba5tards that did it.
The issue is-and always will be-why wasn’t more done to deal with it at the time? That ends up in a circular argument about people again to some extent, but the Celtic entity as a whole is what’s being sued.
We should have dealt with this long before now.
posted on 19/9/23
money has to be part of it because it can make your life better but it's not therapuetic.
you are correct that its the way of the world, the big cheese that employs gets the focus more than the person so it will always come down to them.
i do find it unfair that lawwell and the likes need to deal with this as if they are the perpetrators when they had no involvement whatsoever.
i'd drag ever basturd that knew about it in to face the the consequence of their indifference, of their vile stupidity.
if they don't already, the club should offer therapy.
posted on 19/9/23
SM is vile. Gone from Celtic should pay out and not put the victims through reliving in court to suddenly fck this right off, tell them to GTF and have it heard in court.
posted on 19/9/23
i try to avoid it.
plenty of people who are up in arms about this focus purely on celtic, not on any other club, industry, children groups, childrens homes, schools, nothing.
more interested in the fact its celtic and it honestly pure sickens me.
you seen it on twitter when there was a hint that more clubs had it, cvnts giddy and hopeful that something would come out about their rivals, actually wanting kids to have been molested.
sick basturds.
posted on 19/9/23
comment by Changing my name from My POV - but not decided... (U10636)
posted 58 minutes ago
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-66853131
Seeking to settle the CA cases. That’ll account for some of the money then.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Not so sure and even if so it’ll be small beer (with all respect to any victims). The level of payment for such cases is a disgrace in my opinion.
And then there’s every likelihood that insurance will come onto play.
No matter what we pay, it will never be enough and I for one don’t ever think it could be.
posted on 19/9/23
It'll probably be between one and two million pounds for each victim. That's, apparently, the current rate for this type of compensation.
Even discussing this shiiit doesn't sit right.
People preying on kids ain't human.
posted on 19/9/23
comment by Zico - Celtic Treble Winners 22/23 (U21900)
posted 1 minute ago
It'll probably be between one and two million pounds for each victim. That's, apparently, the current rate for this type of compensation.
Even discussing this shiiit doesn't sit right.
People preying on kids ain't human.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Doubt it will be anywhere near that. Look at the historical compensation claims and rough “guidelines”.
It’s pitiful.
posted on 19/9/23
comment by Zico - Celtic Treble Winners 22/23 (U21900)
posted 3 minutes ago
It'll probably be between one and two million pounds for each victim. That's, apparently, the current rate for this type of compensation.
Even discussing this shiiit doesn't sit right.
People preying on kids ain't human.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I don’t think that’s the case with out of court settlements. Think the scheme Man City had was much, much less.
posted on 19/9/23
This is the issue.
what is a "fair" figure for such suffering exactly?
how the f... do you put a number on that.
i stand by the opinion i've always held about accountability, legally celtic may not have been affiliated but it's clear they were, just do the right thing.
That goes for Rangers as well, can't give it 55 titles and then say "that was the old club". That's disgusting.
posted on 19/9/23
comment by Changing my name from My POV - but not decided... (U10636)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Zico - Celtic Treble Winners 22/23 (U21900)
posted 3 minutes ago
It'll probably be between one and two million pounds for each victim. That's, apparently, the current rate for this type of compensation.
Even discussing this shiiit doesn't sit right.
People preying on kids ain't human.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I don’t think that’s the case with out of court settlements. Think the scheme Man City had was much, much less.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It’ll be even lower than Man City’s I think.
As has been said though, it feels awful talking about levels of payment. And even then as a class action the lawyers will scoop minimum 25-30% of the award most likely.
posted on 19/9/23
once there has been a payout and a form of justice, it will be good for those really fierce about it on twitter to focus on other cases.
they won't though.
posted on 19/9/23
Can’t admit to having more than a two second glance but surprised Celtic seem to still have a net current liability position given results last few years
posted on 19/9/23
comment by Changing my name from My POV - but not decided what to change it to yet (U10636)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Zico - Celtic Treble Winners 22/23 (U21900)
posted 3 minutes ago
It'll probably be between one and two million pounds for each victim. That's, apparently, the current rate for this type of compensation.
Even discussing this shiiit doesn't sit right.
People preying on kids ain't human.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I don’t think that’s the case with out of court settlements. Think the scheme Man City had was much, much less.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
From a Lawyers website:
"The cases noted below are at a variety of stages. Of those which are now complete, and where a settlement has been reached, compensation payments to clients have varied from between £40,000 and £1.75m"
I hope the victims get a just settlement.
posted on 19/9/23
comment by JFK (U8919)
posted 1 minute ago
once there has been a payout and a form of justice, it will be good for those really fierce about it on twitter to focus on other cases.
they won't though.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Of course not. No matter what it is, it’ll never be enough for anyone really.
I’ve got my own thoughts on where I think it’ll end up. Just please that it’s being dealt with
posted on 19/9/23
i get the clubs stance previously, people today being made to look like the people behind it while those who knew or suspected sit at home.
it's schite.
that said, there was a link there, and i expect better of my club than to turn its back on it.
we should have addressed it head on.
posted on 19/9/23
comment by JFK (U8919)
posted 7 minutes ago
This is the issue.
what is a "fair" figure for such suffering exactly?
====
There isn't a 'fair' figure, money can't fix it.
Hopefully it goes some small way to bring some sort of closure.. , that's all we can say.
Being a parent of one of the victims.. Horrible to even think about.
posted on 19/9/23
comment by Zico - Celtic Treble Winners 22/23 (U21900)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by Changing my name from My POV - but not decided what to change it to yet (U10636)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Zico - Celtic Treble Winners 22/23 (U21900)
posted 3 minutes ago
It'll probably be between one and two million pounds for each victim. That's, apparently, the current rate for this type of compensation.
Even discussing this shiiit doesn't sit right.
People preying on kids ain't human.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I don’t think that’s the case with out of court settlements. Think the scheme Man City had was much, much less.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
From a Lawyers website:
"The cases noted below are at a variety of stages. Of those which are now complete, and where a settlement has been reached, compensation payments to clients have varied from between £40,000 and £1.75m"
I hope the victims get a just settlement.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I suspect the settlements will be made with a legal statement made that confirms the separation of the two entities, but with something along the lines of "the football club benefitted from the close working relationship it had with the boys club"
That gives the club a degree of legal protection whilst doing the right thing by the victims.
It's about time that the victims got this settlement and a small degree of closure.
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