comment by Redastomatoes- Feels very Moyesian...cleverson forever!If he is good enough he is ready! (U12026)
posted 21 minutes ago
comment by Vengeance of Kungfu Pea in a Bun (U23079)
posted 17 minutes ago
He needs a few more windows to create balance in the squad, he can start by clearing deadwood (including Maguire) and getting players so we can finally see the passing, controlled game he's known for from the back.
So far, based on last season, ignoring the away form and beatings I'd say I'm relatively happy. Like many have said though he needs to build on the good work, so far this season is yet to start for us. Unless we are facing loss after loss and languishing in the bottom half by November/December he'll still be here!
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Unless you want to buy a new 11, or discover 5 young players from the youth team that match fergie's fledglings, this is always going to be the thought process. A manager in our current ownership situation must be the most flexible person. Ole was in a certain way but had faves, a problem ETH has too.
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I suspect Eth is quite a stubborn individual, that is why you need strong voices around him, DOF needs to be pretty strong and not merely a yes man. Murtough comes across as a yes man, he probably yields under the slightest pressure, the atrocious transfer fees negotiated under his watch is clear evidence of that!
There is plenty of top class talent in that squad, albeit imbalanced, for someone like Eth to coach and make them better, play a particular style, they need to be conditioned to a high level. The biggest issue is fitness, that's not down to him, if the players are not 100% conditioned then it doesn't matter what Eth teaches they will fail, which they have been. We are not 100% conditioned to play high intensity footy over long periods.
comment by RB&W - Whiteside has done it again (U21434)
posted 41 minutes ago
comment by manutd1982 (U6633)
posted 27 minutes ago
Progress will be ideal but I reckon the post Woodward era will be a bit more understanding if they can at least see Eth's methods working and developing. CL qualification should keep him safe for another season and now that 5 qualify this season it should be doable even with our poor start.
For me cup runs aren't important and our squad is too thin to go far in a bunch like we did last season.
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Exactly. Clubs like ManUtd just winning cups like the FLC occasionaly arent a reflection of the clubs progress particulary but are good for the managers ego.
Sounds familiar.
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well I still like winning cups.
comment by CurrentlyInPoland (U11181)
posted 44 minutes ago
He's done well last season, but has he been any better than Ole? We've been here before. The Manager can only do so much. But the structure at United is all wrong. People talk about Brighton but there are reasons why they do well. We don't have the structure that supports continuity so any manager that comes in has to establish their way of playing. Then a new one comes in. If we can settle on what way we want to play and then get in head coaches who match. We also need to get the wage bill down. A bit like what Arsenal did. Short term sacrifices for long term gain. But this won't happen until the Glazers sell. And depending who comes in, and if they are willing, to make the right changes.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
What is the structure / roles that supports continuity?
We don't have the structure that supports continuity
comment by Vengeance of Kungfu Pea in a Bun (U23079)
posted 38 minutes ago
comment by Redastomatoes- Feels very Moyesian...cleverson forever!If he is good enough he is ready! (U12026)
posted 21 minutes ago
comment by Vengeance of Kungfu Pea in a Bun (U23079)
posted 17 minutes ago
He needs a few more windows to create balance in the squad, he can start by clearing deadwood (including Maguire) and getting players so we can finally see the passing, controlled game he's known for from the back.
So far, based on last season, ignoring the away form and beatings I'd say I'm relatively happy. Like many have said though he needs to build on the good work, so far this season is yet to start for us. Unless we are facing loss after loss and languishing in the bottom half by November/December he'll still be here!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Unless you want to buy a new 11, or discover 5 young players from the youth team that match fergie's fledglings, this is always going to be the thought process. A manager in our current ownership situation must be the most flexible person. Ole was in a certain way but had faves, a problem ETH has too.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I suspect Eth is quite a stubborn individual, that is why you need strong voices around him, DOF needs to be pretty strong and not merely a yes man. Murtough comes across as a yes man, he probably yields under the slightest pressure, the atrocious transfer fees negotiated under his watch is clear evidence of that!
There is plenty of top class talent in that squad, albeit imbalanced, for someone like Eth to coach and make them better, play a particular style, they need to be conditioned to a high level. The biggest issue is fitness, that's not down to him, if the players are not 100% conditioned then it doesn't matter what Eth teaches they will fail, which they have been. We are not 100% conditioned to play high intensity footy over long periods.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I suspect Eth is quite a stubborn individual, that is why you need strong voices around him, DOF needs to be pretty strong and not merely a yes man. Murtough comes across as a yes man, he probably yields under the slightest pressure,.
How can you possibly know about ETH or Murtough?
I'm all for criticism where it is warranted, but we need people to stop making stuff up.
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 26 minutes ago
comment by RB&W - Whiteside has done it again (U21434)
posted 41 minutes ago
comment by manutd1982 (U6633)
posted 27 minutes ago
Progress will be ideal but I reckon the post Woodward era will be a bit more understanding if they can at least see Eth's methods working and developing. CL qualification should keep him safe for another season and now that 5 qualify this season it should be doable even with our poor start.
For me cup runs aren't important and our squad is too thin to go far in a bunch like we did last season.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Exactly. Clubs like ManUtd just winning cups like the FLC occasionaly arent a reflection of the clubs progress particulary but are good for the managers ego.
Sounds familiar.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
well I still like winning cups.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
We all do. But for many United fans the League Cup pales a bit in comparrison to the PL and the CL
Which are trophies Man United should aspire to and are a real gauge to the progress of this club.
If ETH does go I’d hope the next manager comes in with one particular superpower and that is to coach the players he inherits better than our previous coaches have.
That might be the only way to stop the rot if a proper structure ain’t coming in anytime soon. Just a good old fashioned great coach of players. Might not win us titles every season until the club is fixed but the players might actually look like they know what they’re doing.
"I think we all rated him last season"
And here is the problem with social media FC, quick to forget everything outside of the current results.
The list of what's wrong at the club probably is as long, if not longer than all the other 19 clubs combined.
People were moaning (rightly) that the players at the club had too much power pre-Ten Hag. He comes in, lays down a set of rules to follow, some players don't follow them and he holds them accountable. Then the same people side with the players and say he's being too harsh and to let them get away with it.
Combine that with the owners who act as if they don't know if they're coming or going, creating instability at the club. As well as not keeping up with the other top clubs when it comes to the stadium, training ground, player ins/outs. The club is one of the biggest in world football, they should be leading the way in terms of all these things, but they aren't and are nowhere near the level of other clubs.
ETH then has to deal with the likes of the Greenwod/Antony situations outside of football, as well as the Ronaldo, Sancho etc... situations.
Maguire is a difficult one, you can't fault him for his commitment and effort. That being said he clearly isn't in the managers plans but is stuck at the club due to more poor work in the recruitment side of things as he was given far to much and also we paid over the top for him in a transfer fee (neither his fault mind you).
The same can be said for many other players as they are on contracts that are far too big and no other clubs want to pay those wages. Again this comes down to poor leadership at the top of the club.
Getting back to the original point of the article
I think the jury is out way too early on Ten Hag. He hasn't had a decent run of games yet with what you'd call his side. I don't agree with substitutions/tactics that he has employed of late, but we don't know the full ins and outs of what goes on behind closed doors and we have had 2 goals ruled out in the last 2 games by the narrowest of margins that could have had big impacts on the outcomes.
ETH has had a really raw deal this season so far. Yes he's made mistakes himself as well but we've had so much go wrong on and off the pitch that you can only feel sorry for the guy really.
I can't remember a football manager having to deal with so much off the pitch related stuff in such a short amount of time. It's been one thing after the next and he's not been the cause or involved in most of them. He's just inherited it.
This season for me is about getting new owners. 4th 5th or 10th place is irrelevant really in the grand scheme of things. The most important thing this season is getting a new start and for the club to have some hope again.
ETH has to stay. I don't always agree with his decisions but the Glazers cannot be allowed to start all over again. They have had far more last chances than they deserved. Time is up.
I agree Ten Hag has had a very raw deal, but unfortunately it's one more reason why I think he'll be gone soon.
I can see him leaving by mutual agreement, because the sooner he's gone the more chance he has of salvaging his reputation, and he'll be aware of that.
comment by Jalisco Red - Losing My Reguilón (U4195)
posted 2 minutes ago
I agree Ten Hag has had a very raw deal, but unfortunately it's one more reason why I think he'll be gone soon.
I can see him leaving by mutual agreement, because the sooner he's gone the more chance he has of salvaging his reputation, and he'll be aware of that.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Then we go for De Zerbi or someone like that, start well, then things go downhill again and people want him sacked and around and around we go.
He ain't gonna choose to leave, he is at one of the biggest clubs in the world and I'm sure he has belief in his methods even if the club are a mess.
Maguire now out of the Bayern match!
comment by Diafol Coch 77 🏴 (U2462)
posted 1 hour, 39 minutes ago
Maguire now out of the Bayern match!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Positive news at last.
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Diafol Coch 77 🏴 (U2462)
posted 1 hour, 39 minutes ago
Maguire now out of the Bayern match!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Positive news at last.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
A welcome lift for the lads!
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by Diafol Coch 77 🏴 (U2462)
posted 1 hour, 39 minutes ago
Maguire now out of the Bayern match!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Positive news at last.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Now we will lose by only 3.
comment by Redastomatoes- Feels very Moyesian...cleverson forever!If he is good enough he is ready! (U12026)
posted 26 minutes ago
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by Diafol Coch 77 🏴 (U2462)
posted 1 hour, 39 minutes ago
Maguire now out of the Bayern match!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Positive news at last.
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Now we will lose by only 3.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Progress
😄
comment by The Great Dane (U22987)
posted 16 hours, 39 minutes ago
comment by CurrentlyInPoland (U11181)
posted 44 minutes ago
He's done well last season, but has he been any better than Ole? We've been here before. The Manager can only do so much. But the structure at United is all wrong. People talk about Brighton but there are reasons why they do well. We don't have the structure that supports continuity so any manager that comes in has to establish their way of playing. Then a new one comes in. If we can settle on what way we want to play and then get in head coaches who match. We also need to get the wage bill down. A bit like what Arsenal did. Short term sacrifices for long term gain. But this won't happen until the Glazers sell. And depending who comes in, and if they are willing, to make the right changes.
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What is the structure / roles that supports continuity?
We don't have the structure that supports continuity
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We can see foreplanning that city took whole they had Mancini. Arsenal is another who took a longer term approach. The United higher ups do not know what they are doing.
comment by CurrentlyInPoland (U11181)
posted 7 hours, 13 minutes ago
comment by The Great Dane (U22987)
posted 16 hours, 39 minutes ago
comment by CurrentlyInPoland (U11181)
posted 44 minutes ago
He's done well last season, but has he been any better than Ole? We've been here before. The Manager can only do so much. But the structure at United is all wrong. People talk about Brighton but there are reasons why they do well. We don't have the structure that supports continuity so any manager that comes in has to establish their way of playing. Then a new one comes in. If we can settle on what way we want to play and then get in head coaches who match. We also need to get the wage bill down. A bit like what Arsenal did. Short term sacrifices for long term gain. But this won't happen until the Glazers sell. And depending who comes in, and if they are willing, to make the right changes.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
What is the structure / roles that supports continuity?
We don't have the structure that supports continuity
----------------------------------------------------------------------
We can see foreplanning that city took whole they had Mancini. Arsenal is another who took a longer term approach. The United higher ups do not know what they are doing.
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City put a lot of work in to get the world best manager in and keep him happy, yes, but I'm nit sure what it is you think Arsenal have done / are doing that we are not
comment by The Great Dane (U22987)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by CurrentlyInPoland (U11181)
posted 7 hours, 13 minutes ago
comment by The Great Dane (U22987)
posted 16 hours, 39 minutes ago
comment by CurrentlyInPoland (U11181)
posted 44 minutes ago
He's done well last season, but has he been any better than Ole? We've been here before. The Manager can only do so much. But the structure at United is all wrong. People talk about Brighton but there are reasons why they do well. We don't have the structure that supports continuity so any manager that comes in has to establish their way of playing. Then a new one comes in. If we can settle on what way we want to play and then get in head coaches who match. We also need to get the wage bill down. A bit like what Arsenal did. Short term sacrifices for long term gain. But this won't happen until the Glazers sell. And depending who comes in, and if they are willing, to make the right changes.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
What is the structure / roles that supports continuity?
We don't have the structure that supports continuity
----------------------------------------------------------------------
We can see foreplanning that city took whole they had Mancini. Arsenal is another who took a longer term approach. The United higher ups do not know what they are doing.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
City put a lot of work in to get the world best manager in and keep him happy, yes, but I'm nit sure what it is you think Arsenal have done / are doing that we are not
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Winning matches at the Emirates, for one
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posted on 19/9/23
comment by Redastomatoes- Feels very Moyesian...cleverson forever!If he is good enough he is ready! (U12026)
posted 21 minutes ago
comment by Vengeance of Kungfu Pea in a Bun (U23079)
posted 17 minutes ago
He needs a few more windows to create balance in the squad, he can start by clearing deadwood (including Maguire) and getting players so we can finally see the passing, controlled game he's known for from the back.
So far, based on last season, ignoring the away form and beatings I'd say I'm relatively happy. Like many have said though he needs to build on the good work, so far this season is yet to start for us. Unless we are facing loss after loss and languishing in the bottom half by November/December he'll still be here!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Unless you want to buy a new 11, or discover 5 young players from the youth team that match fergie's fledglings, this is always going to be the thought process. A manager in our current ownership situation must be the most flexible person. Ole was in a certain way but had faves, a problem ETH has too.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I suspect Eth is quite a stubborn individual, that is why you need strong voices around him, DOF needs to be pretty strong and not merely a yes man. Murtough comes across as a yes man, he probably yields under the slightest pressure, the atrocious transfer fees negotiated under his watch is clear evidence of that!
There is plenty of top class talent in that squad, albeit imbalanced, for someone like Eth to coach and make them better, play a particular style, they need to be conditioned to a high level. The biggest issue is fitness, that's not down to him, if the players are not 100% conditioned then it doesn't matter what Eth teaches they will fail, which they have been. We are not 100% conditioned to play high intensity footy over long periods.
posted on 19/9/23
comment by RB&W - Whiteside has done it again (U21434)
posted 41 minutes ago
comment by manutd1982 (U6633)
posted 27 minutes ago
Progress will be ideal but I reckon the post Woodward era will be a bit more understanding if they can at least see Eth's methods working and developing. CL qualification should keep him safe for another season and now that 5 qualify this season it should be doable even with our poor start.
For me cup runs aren't important and our squad is too thin to go far in a bunch like we did last season.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Exactly. Clubs like ManUtd just winning cups like the FLC occasionaly arent a reflection of the clubs progress particulary but are good for the managers ego.
Sounds familiar.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
well I still like winning cups.
posted on 19/9/23
comment by CurrentlyInPoland (U11181)
posted 44 minutes ago
He's done well last season, but has he been any better than Ole? We've been here before. The Manager can only do so much. But the structure at United is all wrong. People talk about Brighton but there are reasons why they do well. We don't have the structure that supports continuity so any manager that comes in has to establish their way of playing. Then a new one comes in. If we can settle on what way we want to play and then get in head coaches who match. We also need to get the wage bill down. A bit like what Arsenal did. Short term sacrifices for long term gain. But this won't happen until the Glazers sell. And depending who comes in, and if they are willing, to make the right changes.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
What is the structure / roles that supports continuity?
We don't have the structure that supports continuity
posted on 19/9/23
comment by Vengeance of Kungfu Pea in a Bun (U23079)
posted 38 minutes ago
comment by Redastomatoes- Feels very Moyesian...cleverson forever!If he is good enough he is ready! (U12026)
posted 21 minutes ago
comment by Vengeance of Kungfu Pea in a Bun (U23079)
posted 17 minutes ago
He needs a few more windows to create balance in the squad, he can start by clearing deadwood (including Maguire) and getting players so we can finally see the passing, controlled game he's known for from the back.
So far, based on last season, ignoring the away form and beatings I'd say I'm relatively happy. Like many have said though he needs to build on the good work, so far this season is yet to start for us. Unless we are facing loss after loss and languishing in the bottom half by November/December he'll still be here!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Unless you want to buy a new 11, or discover 5 young players from the youth team that match fergie's fledglings, this is always going to be the thought process. A manager in our current ownership situation must be the most flexible person. Ole was in a certain way but had faves, a problem ETH has too.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I suspect Eth is quite a stubborn individual, that is why you need strong voices around him, DOF needs to be pretty strong and not merely a yes man. Murtough comes across as a yes man, he probably yields under the slightest pressure, the atrocious transfer fees negotiated under his watch is clear evidence of that!
There is plenty of top class talent in that squad, albeit imbalanced, for someone like Eth to coach and make them better, play a particular style, they need to be conditioned to a high level. The biggest issue is fitness, that's not down to him, if the players are not 100% conditioned then it doesn't matter what Eth teaches they will fail, which they have been. We are not 100% conditioned to play high intensity footy over long periods.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I suspect Eth is quite a stubborn individual, that is why you need strong voices around him, DOF needs to be pretty strong and not merely a yes man. Murtough comes across as a yes man, he probably yields under the slightest pressure,.
How can you possibly know about ETH or Murtough?
I'm all for criticism where it is warranted, but we need people to stop making stuff up.
posted on 19/9/23
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 26 minutes ago
comment by RB&W - Whiteside has done it again (U21434)
posted 41 minutes ago
comment by manutd1982 (U6633)
posted 27 minutes ago
Progress will be ideal but I reckon the post Woodward era will be a bit more understanding if they can at least see Eth's methods working and developing. CL qualification should keep him safe for another season and now that 5 qualify this season it should be doable even with our poor start.
For me cup runs aren't important and our squad is too thin to go far in a bunch like we did last season.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Exactly. Clubs like ManUtd just winning cups like the FLC occasionaly arent a reflection of the clubs progress particulary but are good for the managers ego.
Sounds familiar.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
well I still like winning cups.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
We all do. But for many United fans the League Cup pales a bit in comparrison to the PL and the CL
Which are trophies Man United should aspire to and are a real gauge to the progress of this club.
posted on 19/9/23
If ETH does go I’d hope the next manager comes in with one particular superpower and that is to coach the players he inherits better than our previous coaches have.
That might be the only way to stop the rot if a proper structure ain’t coming in anytime soon. Just a good old fashioned great coach of players. Might not win us titles every season until the club is fixed but the players might actually look like they know what they’re doing.
posted on 19/9/23
"I think we all rated him last season"
And here is the problem with social media FC, quick to forget everything outside of the current results.
The list of what's wrong at the club probably is as long, if not longer than all the other 19 clubs combined.
People were moaning (rightly) that the players at the club had too much power pre-Ten Hag. He comes in, lays down a set of rules to follow, some players don't follow them and he holds them accountable. Then the same people side with the players and say he's being too harsh and to let them get away with it.
Combine that with the owners who act as if they don't know if they're coming or going, creating instability at the club. As well as not keeping up with the other top clubs when it comes to the stadium, training ground, player ins/outs. The club is one of the biggest in world football, they should be leading the way in terms of all these things, but they aren't and are nowhere near the level of other clubs.
ETH then has to deal with the likes of the Greenwod/Antony situations outside of football, as well as the Ronaldo, Sancho etc... situations.
Maguire is a difficult one, you can't fault him for his commitment and effort. That being said he clearly isn't in the managers plans but is stuck at the club due to more poor work in the recruitment side of things as he was given far to much and also we paid over the top for him in a transfer fee (neither his fault mind you).
The same can be said for many other players as they are on contracts that are far too big and no other clubs want to pay those wages. Again this comes down to poor leadership at the top of the club.
Getting back to the original point of the article
I think the jury is out way too early on Ten Hag. He hasn't had a decent run of games yet with what you'd call his side. I don't agree with substitutions/tactics that he has employed of late, but we don't know the full ins and outs of what goes on behind closed doors and we have had 2 goals ruled out in the last 2 games by the narrowest of margins that could have had big impacts on the outcomes.
posted on 19/9/23
ETH has had a really raw deal this season so far. Yes he's made mistakes himself as well but we've had so much go wrong on and off the pitch that you can only feel sorry for the guy really.
I can't remember a football manager having to deal with so much off the pitch related stuff in such a short amount of time. It's been one thing after the next and he's not been the cause or involved in most of them. He's just inherited it.
This season for me is about getting new owners. 4th 5th or 10th place is irrelevant really in the grand scheme of things. The most important thing this season is getting a new start and for the club to have some hope again.
ETH has to stay. I don't always agree with his decisions but the Glazers cannot be allowed to start all over again. They have had far more last chances than they deserved. Time is up.
posted on 19/9/23
I agree Ten Hag has had a very raw deal, but unfortunately it's one more reason why I think he'll be gone soon.
I can see him leaving by mutual agreement, because the sooner he's gone the more chance he has of salvaging his reputation, and he'll be aware of that.
posted on 19/9/23
comment by Jalisco Red - Losing My Reguilón (U4195)
posted 2 minutes ago
I agree Ten Hag has had a very raw deal, but unfortunately it's one more reason why I think he'll be gone soon.
I can see him leaving by mutual agreement, because the sooner he's gone the more chance he has of salvaging his reputation, and he'll be aware of that.
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Then we go for De Zerbi or someone like that, start well, then things go downhill again and people want him sacked and around and around we go.
posted on 19/9/23
He ain't gonna choose to leave, he is at one of the biggest clubs in the world and I'm sure he has belief in his methods even if the club are a mess.
posted on 19/9/23
Maguire now out of the Bayern match!
posted on 19/9/23
comment by Diafol Coch 77 🏴 (U2462)
posted 1 hour, 39 minutes ago
Maguire now out of the Bayern match!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Positive news at last.
posted on 19/9/23
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Diafol Coch 77 🏴 (U2462)
posted 1 hour, 39 minutes ago
Maguire now out of the Bayern match!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Positive news at last.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
A welcome lift for the lads!
posted on 19/9/23
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by Diafol Coch 77 🏴 (U2462)
posted 1 hour, 39 minutes ago
Maguire now out of the Bayern match!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Positive news at last.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Now we will lose by only 3.
posted on 19/9/23
comment by Redastomatoes- Feels very Moyesian...cleverson forever!If he is good enough he is ready! (U12026)
posted 26 minutes ago
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by Diafol Coch 77 🏴 (U2462)
posted 1 hour, 39 minutes ago
Maguire now out of the Bayern match!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Positive news at last.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Now we will lose by only 3.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Progress
😄
posted on 20/9/23
comment by The Great Dane (U22987)
posted 16 hours, 39 minutes ago
comment by CurrentlyInPoland (U11181)
posted 44 minutes ago
He's done well last season, but has he been any better than Ole? We've been here before. The Manager can only do so much. But the structure at United is all wrong. People talk about Brighton but there are reasons why they do well. We don't have the structure that supports continuity so any manager that comes in has to establish their way of playing. Then a new one comes in. If we can settle on what way we want to play and then get in head coaches who match. We also need to get the wage bill down. A bit like what Arsenal did. Short term sacrifices for long term gain. But this won't happen until the Glazers sell. And depending who comes in, and if they are willing, to make the right changes.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
What is the structure / roles that supports continuity?
We don't have the structure that supports continuity
----------------------------------------------------------------------
We can see foreplanning that city took whole they had Mancini. Arsenal is another who took a longer term approach. The United higher ups do not know what they are doing.
posted on 20/9/23
comment by CurrentlyInPoland (U11181)
posted 7 hours, 13 minutes ago
comment by The Great Dane (U22987)
posted 16 hours, 39 minutes ago
comment by CurrentlyInPoland (U11181)
posted 44 minutes ago
He's done well last season, but has he been any better than Ole? We've been here before. The Manager can only do so much. But the structure at United is all wrong. People talk about Brighton but there are reasons why they do well. We don't have the structure that supports continuity so any manager that comes in has to establish their way of playing. Then a new one comes in. If we can settle on what way we want to play and then get in head coaches who match. We also need to get the wage bill down. A bit like what Arsenal did. Short term sacrifices for long term gain. But this won't happen until the Glazers sell. And depending who comes in, and if they are willing, to make the right changes.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
What is the structure / roles that supports continuity?
We don't have the structure that supports continuity
----------------------------------------------------------------------
We can see foreplanning that city took whole they had Mancini. Arsenal is another who took a longer term approach. The United higher ups do not know what they are doing.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
City put a lot of work in to get the world best manager in and keep him happy, yes, but I'm nit sure what it is you think Arsenal have done / are doing that we are not
posted on 20/9/23
comment by The Great Dane (U22987)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by CurrentlyInPoland (U11181)
posted 7 hours, 13 minutes ago
comment by The Great Dane (U22987)
posted 16 hours, 39 minutes ago
comment by CurrentlyInPoland (U11181)
posted 44 minutes ago
He's done well last season, but has he been any better than Ole? We've been here before. The Manager can only do so much. But the structure at United is all wrong. People talk about Brighton but there are reasons why they do well. We don't have the structure that supports continuity so any manager that comes in has to establish their way of playing. Then a new one comes in. If we can settle on what way we want to play and then get in head coaches who match. We also need to get the wage bill down. A bit like what Arsenal did. Short term sacrifices for long term gain. But this won't happen until the Glazers sell. And depending who comes in, and if they are willing, to make the right changes.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
What is the structure / roles that supports continuity?
We don't have the structure that supports continuity
----------------------------------------------------------------------
We can see foreplanning that city took whole they had Mancini. Arsenal is another who took a longer term approach. The United higher ups do not know what they are doing.
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City put a lot of work in to get the world best manager in and keep him happy, yes, but I'm nit sure what it is you think Arsenal have done / are doing that we are not
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Winning matches at the Emirates, for one
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