Confusing title for this article, not about Levy at all🤷♂️
Also, if common consensus is to be believed, Levy went after Nagelsmaan and then Arne Slot before settling on Ange. Similarly as I recall he went after other coaches such as van Gaal before ending up with Poch who was further down his list.
I think Levy should be commended for the appointment of Conte because, regardless of the fact it didn’t work out, he went and balls deep on brining in a supposed elite coach in his prime who most thought we couldn’t land, and paid the big bucks to do so. It was a bold statement. With Ange, it feels more like a bit of a desperation measure that is actually working out ok. If we end up with the right guy I don’t care if it’s by design or luck, but I’m not gonna give Levy false praise for some sort of master stroke when that’s obviously not the case.
Don’t fall in love with him - he goes to City next
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 1 minute ago
Don’t fall in love with him - he goes to City next
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Nah all Aussies love London.
At the end of the day, it’s about titles. Not about winning 4 games out of 5 early in the season (even Liverpool have managed that).
Arsenal were questioned a lot between 2005-14, and then we emerged from the doldrums to win 9 titles in 9 years.
This is what Spurs need to do.
comment by ChArliE Big Bananas (U14461)
posted 16 minutes ago
Confusing title for this article, not about Levy at all🤷♂️
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What's confusing you about it pal? Did Ange just magically become Spurs manager, or did a certain much maligned owner bring him in?
Should he not be applauded for making this appointment?
comment by SimonB (U22811)
posted 26 seconds ago
comment by ChArliE Big Bananas (U14461)
posted 16 minutes ago
Confusing title for this article, not about Levy at all🤷♂️
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What's confusing you about it pal? Did Ange just magically become Spurs manager, or did a certain much maligned owner bring him in?
Should he not be applauded for making this appointment?
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Some folk are blinkered and rather simple.
No club appoints a manager having interviewed one option or having not gone through a process of exploring options and having initial discussions. To do so would be negligent when making a key appointment in a multi-billion pound company.
Some fans profess to know what the thinking was in the club, how well managers interviewed, who was offered the job, what decision-making was based on.
And those with an agenda will cite this process as luckily stumbling on a decent manager who was 4th choice after being turned down by 3 others.
comment by ChArliE Big Bananas (U14461)
posted 19 minutes ago
Also, if common consensus is to be believed, Levy went after Nagelsmaan and then Arne Slot before settling on Ange. Similarly as I recall he went after other coaches such as van Gaal before ending up with Poch who was further down his list.
I think Levy should be commended for the appointment of Conte because, regardless of the fact it didn’t work out, he went and balls deep on brining in a supposed elite coach in his prime who most thought we couldn’t land, and paid the big bucks to do so. It was a bold statement. With Ange, it feels more like a bit of a desperation measure that is actually working out ok. If we end up with the right guy I don’t care if it’s by design or luck, but I’m not gonna give Levy false praise for some sort of master stroke when that’s obviously not the case.
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Common consensus ?
Employer interviews several candidates before appointing new manager....
WOW! imagine that. Did Spurs really do that, spoke to several potential managers before appointing someone. Jeeez, we must have been desperate!
If this is giving Levy credit for choosing him then we have to remember he was not Levy's first choice. Levy can have some credit for it, because I myself didn't really fancy Ange much among the choices. That said Levy needs to make sure he backs him through good and bad, the way he didn't with Poch. He also needs to take stick for the failure of the last few years employing the wrong managers who were the were never the right fit.
Ultimately, Levy needs to now keep making the right decisions because it's no good making a right decision only to cancel it out with a wrong one, which is what we've got used to from him. He has to learn from his mistakes. We look like we have the right manager. Great! Now make sure you back him in the windows; give him the players he wants and get rid of ones no longer needed sooner. As we saw already, the summer transfer window didn't exactly show us he is learning.
I think this was long in the planning.
I read that contact was made, as a sounding out, before Conte had gone, as an option, not an offer.
The fact that the media and many on here were in a meltdown as nothing was coming out of the club as the YTS Manager had a pop, suggests to me that agreement had been made but kept quiet as Ange had the season to end in Scotland.
So, there was probably some wry smiles in our boardroom when they were watching everyone impload.
On a side note, I put Ange forward as someone I would like very early, but didn't think we would.
comment by #LiquidGenius (U20571)
posted 1 hour, 45 minutes ago
At the end of the day, it’s about titles. Not about winning 4 games out of 5 early in the season (even Liverpool have managed that).
Arsenal were questioned a lot between 2005-14, and then we emerged from the doldrums to win 9 titles in 9 years.
This is what Spurs need to do.
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Could you clarify please - what were these 9 titles?
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 50 minutes ago
If this is giving Levy credit for choosing him then we have to remember he was not Levy's first choice. Levy can have some credit for it, because I myself didn't really fancy Ange much among the choices. That said Levy needs to make sure he backs him through good and bad, the way he didn't with Poch. He also needs to take stick for the failure of the last few years employing the wrong managers who were the were never the right fit.
Ultimately, Levy needs to now keep making the right decisions because it's no good making a right decision only to cancel it out with a wrong one, which is what we've got used to from him. He has to learn from his mistakes. We look like we have the right manager. Great! Now make sure you back him in the windows; give him the players he wants and get rid of ones no longer needed sooner. As we saw already, the summer transfer window didn't exactly show us he is learning.
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This is absolutely correct and a balanced view on the ups and downs under this regime.
I really felt that this was Levy's last chance with the fans. A poor appointment here would have seen the malcontent grow massively to where it became toxic like it has at United and Everton.
For me we can see the logic in why, after sacking Poch, we took a different approach. It failed, and this is not unique to Spurs. The post Fergie era, the post-Wenger era have been a tale of failed appointments, rebuilds and transitions. It is not easy to achieve continuity. Of course Levy has contributed to the failure of these appointments as well, but not through a lack of backing, loads of money has been spent.
We cannot continue to look backwards. In the same way I cannot keep accepting poor decisions because i went to a Champions League final, fans cannot keep harking back to poor decisions as a reason to beat the ownership now, especially when things are actually going in the right direction....not just with football but with how the club is run, with the transfers we have done, some of the great young talent we are now enjoying and the exciting future that points to.
The club need to back Ange, but much like the appointment of this guy, fans cannot be blinded by big names and expensive signings or view these as a measure of ambition. Naglesmann would have been ambitious and Ange was just a cheap 4th choice, Vicario being a cheapskate version of Raya, Johnson not being a direct replacement for Kane, Solomon being a free opportunist buy, only going for Maddison because he was cheap. These are all accusations bitter fans make in pointing at ambition but are pretty misguided in my opinion.
I think we saw with Poch that this sort of manager, this sort of development of the team and the club is where we have operated best. Poch's team was packed full of great deals on players whop developed under a decent coach. The difference now is that we have the resources to better back the manager and i would expect that to happen...not all at once, but step by step.
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posted on 20/9/23
Confusing title for this article, not about Levy at all🤷♂️
posted on 20/9/23
Also, if common consensus is to be believed, Levy went after Nagelsmaan and then Arne Slot before settling on Ange. Similarly as I recall he went after other coaches such as van Gaal before ending up with Poch who was further down his list.
I think Levy should be commended for the appointment of Conte because, regardless of the fact it didn’t work out, he went and balls deep on brining in a supposed elite coach in his prime who most thought we couldn’t land, and paid the big bucks to do so. It was a bold statement. With Ange, it feels more like a bit of a desperation measure that is actually working out ok. If we end up with the right guy I don’t care if it’s by design or luck, but I’m not gonna give Levy false praise for some sort of master stroke when that’s obviously not the case.
posted on 20/9/23
Don’t fall in love with him - he goes to City next
posted on 20/9/23
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 1 minute ago
Don’t fall in love with him - he goes to City next
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Nah all Aussies love London.
posted on 20/9/23
At the end of the day, it’s about titles. Not about winning 4 games out of 5 early in the season (even Liverpool have managed that).
Arsenal were questioned a lot between 2005-14, and then we emerged from the doldrums to win 9 titles in 9 years.
This is what Spurs need to do.
posted on 20/9/23
comment by ChArliE Big Bananas (U14461)
posted 16 minutes ago
Confusing title for this article, not about Levy at all🤷♂️
----------------------------------------------------------------------
What's confusing you about it pal? Did Ange just magically become Spurs manager, or did a certain much maligned owner bring him in?
Should he not be applauded for making this appointment?
posted on 20/9/23
posted on 20/9/23
comment by SimonB (U22811)
posted 26 seconds ago
comment by ChArliE Big Bananas (U14461)
posted 16 minutes ago
Confusing title for this article, not about Levy at all🤷♂️
----------------------------------------------------------------------
What's confusing you about it pal? Did Ange just magically become Spurs manager, or did a certain much maligned owner bring him in?
Should he not be applauded for making this appointment?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Some folk are blinkered and rather simple.
No club appoints a manager having interviewed one option or having not gone through a process of exploring options and having initial discussions. To do so would be negligent when making a key appointment in a multi-billion pound company.
Some fans profess to know what the thinking was in the club, how well managers interviewed, who was offered the job, what decision-making was based on.
And those with an agenda will cite this process as luckily stumbling on a decent manager who was 4th choice after being turned down by 3 others.
posted on 20/9/23
comment by ChArliE Big Bananas (U14461)
posted 19 minutes ago
Also, if common consensus is to be believed, Levy went after Nagelsmaan and then Arne Slot before settling on Ange. Similarly as I recall he went after other coaches such as van Gaal before ending up with Poch who was further down his list.
I think Levy should be commended for the appointment of Conte because, regardless of the fact it didn’t work out, he went and balls deep on brining in a supposed elite coach in his prime who most thought we couldn’t land, and paid the big bucks to do so. It was a bold statement. With Ange, it feels more like a bit of a desperation measure that is actually working out ok. If we end up with the right guy I don’t care if it’s by design or luck, but I’m not gonna give Levy false praise for some sort of master stroke when that’s obviously not the case.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Common consensus ?
Employer interviews several candidates before appointing new manager....
WOW! imagine that. Did Spurs really do that, spoke to several potential managers before appointing someone. Jeeez, we must have been desperate!
posted on 20/9/23
If this is giving Levy credit for choosing him then we have to remember he was not Levy's first choice. Levy can have some credit for it, because I myself didn't really fancy Ange much among the choices. That said Levy needs to make sure he backs him through good and bad, the way he didn't with Poch. He also needs to take stick for the failure of the last few years employing the wrong managers who were the were never the right fit.
Ultimately, Levy needs to now keep making the right decisions because it's no good making a right decision only to cancel it out with a wrong one, which is what we've got used to from him. He has to learn from his mistakes. We look like we have the right manager. Great! Now make sure you back him in the windows; give him the players he wants and get rid of ones no longer needed sooner. As we saw already, the summer transfer window didn't exactly show us he is learning.
posted on 20/9/23
I think this was long in the planning.
I read that contact was made, as a sounding out, before Conte had gone, as an option, not an offer.
The fact that the media and many on here were in a meltdown as nothing was coming out of the club as the YTS Manager had a pop, suggests to me that agreement had been made but kept quiet as Ange had the season to end in Scotland.
So, there was probably some wry smiles in our boardroom when they were watching everyone impload.
On a side note, I put Ange forward as someone I would like very early, but didn't think we would.
posted on 20/9/23
comment by #LiquidGenius (U20571)
posted 1 hour, 45 minutes ago
At the end of the day, it’s about titles. Not about winning 4 games out of 5 early in the season (even Liverpool have managed that).
Arsenal were questioned a lot between 2005-14, and then we emerged from the doldrums to win 9 titles in 9 years.
This is what Spurs need to do.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Could you clarify please - what were these 9 titles?
posted on 20/9/23
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 50 minutes ago
If this is giving Levy credit for choosing him then we have to remember he was not Levy's first choice. Levy can have some credit for it, because I myself didn't really fancy Ange much among the choices. That said Levy needs to make sure he backs him through good and bad, the way he didn't with Poch. He also needs to take stick for the failure of the last few years employing the wrong managers who were the were never the right fit.
Ultimately, Levy needs to now keep making the right decisions because it's no good making a right decision only to cancel it out with a wrong one, which is what we've got used to from him. He has to learn from his mistakes. We look like we have the right manager. Great! Now make sure you back him in the windows; give him the players he wants and get rid of ones no longer needed sooner. As we saw already, the summer transfer window didn't exactly show us he is learning.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
This is absolutely correct and a balanced view on the ups and downs under this regime.
I really felt that this was Levy's last chance with the fans. A poor appointment here would have seen the malcontent grow massively to where it became toxic like it has at United and Everton.
For me we can see the logic in why, after sacking Poch, we took a different approach. It failed, and this is not unique to Spurs. The post Fergie era, the post-Wenger era have been a tale of failed appointments, rebuilds and transitions. It is not easy to achieve continuity. Of course Levy has contributed to the failure of these appointments as well, but not through a lack of backing, loads of money has been spent.
We cannot continue to look backwards. In the same way I cannot keep accepting poor decisions because i went to a Champions League final, fans cannot keep harking back to poor decisions as a reason to beat the ownership now, especially when things are actually going in the right direction....not just with football but with how the club is run, with the transfers we have done, some of the great young talent we are now enjoying and the exciting future that points to.
The club need to back Ange, but much like the appointment of this guy, fans cannot be blinded by big names and expensive signings or view these as a measure of ambition. Naglesmann would have been ambitious and Ange was just a cheap 4th choice, Vicario being a cheapskate version of Raya, Johnson not being a direct replacement for Kane, Solomon being a free opportunist buy, only going for Maddison because he was cheap. These are all accusations bitter fans make in pointing at ambition but are pretty misguided in my opinion.
I think we saw with Poch that this sort of manager, this sort of development of the team and the club is where we have operated best. Poch's team was packed full of great deals on players whop developed under a decent coach. The difference now is that we have the resources to better back the manager and i would expect that to happen...not all at once, but step by step.
posted on 20/9/23
Levy out.
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