comment by Thisishardcore (U9121)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by Cinciwolf----Old Trafford record attendance.....WOLVES V GRIMSBY. .......lolz (U11551)
posted 14 minutes ago
Good ol' Hamas volunteering their people for mass suicide again for a war they can never ever win. But nah, Israel's fault of course.
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Sorry what do you expect people who’s land is being illegally occupied by an illegal ruling body, backed by the west no less, who have had their rights denied and freedom of movement taken away, are meant to do? Say thank you and go about their day begging for scraps from the overlords?
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Sounds like the SNP manifesto
comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted 1 hour, 33 minutes ago
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 14 seconds ago
comment by Thisishardcore (U9121)
posted 53 minutes ago
Israel is a shining example of Great Britain’s contribution to the world at large
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Yeah, but that was 100 years ago to be fair.
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What have the English ever done for us....
well..there's roads, education, the viaduct, law & order...
don't forget the wine Reg'
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Bullsheet.
comment by Thisishardcore (U9121)
posted 32 minutes ago
comment by Cinciwolf----Old Trafford record attendance.....WOLVES V GRIMSBY. .......lolz (U11551)
posted 14 minutes ago
Good ol' Hamas volunteering their people for mass suicide again for a war they can never ever win. But nah, Israel's fault of course.
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Sorry what do you expect people who’s land is being illegally occupied by an illegal ruling body, backed by the west no less, who have had their rights denied and freedom of movement taken away, are meant to do? Say thank you and go about their day begging for scraps from the overlords?
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dialogue. I expect dialogue and a move away from terrorist actions. Israel wouldn't have a choice but to concede if Hamas did that instead of slaughtering hundreds. Hamas yet again have just set the process back years and years.
comment by Cloggy (U1250)
posted 33 minutes ago
comment by Cinciwolf----Old Trafford record attendance...... (U11551)
posted 14 minutes ago
Good ol' Hamas volunteering their people for mass suicide again for a war they can never ever win. But nah, Israel's fault of course.
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Completely missing the facking point there Cinci. Come on.
Do you think its OK to cut of water, electricity and food to innocent civilians? Just answer that question.
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For the kind of barbarity meted out against the Israeli civilians, Hamas has set the tone for this conflict.
The money spent on thousands of rockets would have been sufficient to provide their own water and electricity without relying on Israel.
comment by Cinciwolf----Old Trafford record attendance.....WOLVES V GRIMSBY. .......lolz (U11551)
posted 51 minutes ago
Good ol' Hamas volunteering their people for mass suicide again for a war they can never ever win. But nah, Israel's fault of course.
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Exactly. Clearly they're not very clever as they're just doing whatever it takes to give Israel an excuse to do what Israel has always wanted to do.
comment by mancini (U7179)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Cloggy (U1250)
posted 33 minutes ago
comment by Cinciwolf----Old Trafford record attendance...... (U11551)
posted 14 minutes ago
Good ol' Hamas volunteering their people for mass suicide again for a war they can never ever win. But nah, Israel's fault of course.
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Completely missing the facking point there Cinci. Come on.
Do you think its OK to cut of water, electricity and food to innocent civilians? Just answer that question.
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For the kind of barbarity meted out against the Israeli civilians, Hamas has set the tone for this conflict.
The money spent on thousands of rockets would have been sufficient to provide their own water and electricity without relying on Israel.
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Israel destroyed their only power station years ago.
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by mancini (U7179)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Cloggy (U1250)
posted 33 minutes ago
comment by Cinciwolf----Old Trafford record attendance...... (U11551)
posted 14 minutes ago
Good ol' Hamas volunteering their people for mass suicide again for a war they can never ever win. But nah, Israel's fault of course.
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Completely missing the facking point there Cinci. Come on.
Do you think its OK to cut of water, electricity and food to innocent civilians? Just answer that question.
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For the kind of barbarity meted out against the Israeli civilians, Hamas has set the tone for this conflict.
The money spent on thousands of rockets would have been sufficient to provide their own water and electricity without relying on Israel.
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Israel destroyed their only power station years ago.
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Too bad.
Maybe if the people of Gaza had elected a different set of people, things would be much different.
There's a reason Israel is not bombing the West Bank.
comment by K7-0ptimus Primal (U1282)
posted 51 minutes ago
comment by Cinciwolf----Old Trafford record attendance.....WOLVES V GRIMSBY. .......lolz (U11551)
posted 51 minutes ago
Good ol' Hamas volunteering their people for mass suicide again for a war they can never ever win. But nah, Israel's fault of course.
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Exactly. Clearly they're not very clever as they're just doing whatever it takes to give Israel an excuse to do what Israel has always wanted to do.
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Simplistic as it seems, this is exactly it. Whenever any international power asks Israel why, they have a mountain of terrorist evidence to fall back on. The flip side is if Hamas actually lobbied at international levels for a few years while not committing terrorist acts then they would gerner sympathy pretty quickly and the pressure would be on Israel.
But lets be honest, Hamas have zero interest in doing that and just want to commit terrorist acts.
comment by mancini (U7179)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by mancini (U7179)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Cloggy (U1250)
posted 33 minutes ago
comment by Cinciwolf----Old Trafford record attendance...... (U11551)
posted 14 minutes ago
Good ol' Hamas volunteering their people for mass suicide again for a war they can never ever win. But nah, Israel's fault of course.
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Completely missing the facking point there Cinci. Come on.
Do you think its OK to cut of water, electricity and food to innocent civilians? Just answer that question.
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For the kind of barbarity meted out against the Israeli civilians, Hamas has set the tone for this conflict.
The money spent on thousands of rockets would have been sufficient to provide their own water and electricity without relying on Israel.
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Israel destroyed their only power station years ago.
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Too bad.
Maybe if the people of Gaza had elected a different set of people, things would be much different.
There's a reason Israel is not bombing the West Bank.
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Too bad? Glib answer of the day.
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by mancini (U7179)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by mancini (U7179)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Cloggy (U1250)
posted 33 minutes ago
comment by Cinciwolf----Old Trafford record attendance...... (U11551)
posted 14 minutes ago
Good ol' Hamas volunteering their people for mass suicide again for a war they can never ever win. But nah, Israel's fault of course.
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Completely missing the facking point there Cinci. Come on.
Do you think its OK to cut of water, electricity and food to innocent civilians? Just answer that question.
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For the kind of barbarity meted out against the Israeli civilians, Hamas has set the tone for this conflict.
The money spent on thousands of rockets would have been sufficient to provide their own water and electricity without relying on Israel.
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Israel destroyed their only power station years ago.
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Too bad.
Maybe if the people of Gaza had elected a different set of people, things would be much different.
There's a reason Israel is not bombing the West Bank.
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Too bad? Glib answer of the day.
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Gaza an open air prison bombed and Gazans killed by IDF snipers when they feel like it with no repercussions, Far right elected in Israel, settler Terrorists killing and attacking with impunity with the backing of the state and silence from the West. It was only a matter of time something big was going to happen.
If you read into any of the peace Process, not what's reported, but what actually is on offer or the changing of the goal posts, you'll see that the Israelis never wanted and do not want peace. They voted for Netanyahu, who Trump, Bill Clinton and Obama have said never wanted to deal or try to a peace deal. All smoke and mirrors.
The government of Israel and Hamas have the blood on their hands. Israel, the IDF and Settler Terrorists are no better or worse than Hamas. And those who enable them also have blood on their hands.
comment by CurrentlyInPoland (U11181)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by mancini (U7179)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by mancini (U7179)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Cloggy (U1250)
posted 33 minutes ago
comment by Cinciwolf----Old Trafford record attendance...... (U11551)
posted 14 minutes ago
Good ol' Hamas volunteering their people for mass suicide again for a war they can never ever win. But nah, Israel's fault of course.
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Completely missing the facking point there Cinci. Come on.
Do you think its OK to cut of water, electricity and food to innocent civilians? Just answer that question.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
For the kind of barbarity meted out against the Israeli civilians, Hamas has set the tone for this conflict.
The money spent on thousands of rockets would have been sufficient to provide their own water and electricity without relying on Israel.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Israel destroyed their only power station years ago.
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Too bad.
Maybe if the people of Gaza had elected a different set of people, things would be much different.
There's a reason Israel is not bombing the West Bank.
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Too bad? Glib answer of the day.
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Gaza an open air prison bombed and Gazans killed by IDF snipers when they feel like it with no repercussions, Far right elected in Israel, settler Terrorists killing and attacking with impunity with the backing of the state and silence from the West. It was only a matter of time something big was going to happen.
If you read into any of the peace Process, not what's reported, but what actually is on offer or the changing of the goal posts, you'll see that the Israelis never wanted and do not want peace. They voted for Netanyahu, who Trump, Bill Clinton and Obama have said never wanted to deal or try to a peace deal. All smoke and mirrors.
The government of Israel and Hamas have the blood on their hands. Israel, the IDF and Settler Terrorists are no better or worse than Hamas. And those who enable them also have blood on their hands.
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Well said
https://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/israeli-settler-accused-involvement-killing-palestinian-moved-house-102147805
The acts of terror are certainly not one-sided.
Do you think its OK to cut of water, electricity and food to innocent civilians? Just answer that question.
……
I would prefer this to happen to me than to be blown to smithereens by a bomb or rocket.
There are no good sides in the protagonists in this conflict.
comment by >💲Baz tard (U19119)
posted 43 minutes ago
comment by CurrentlyInPoland (U11181)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by mancini (U7179)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by mancini (U7179)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Cloggy (U1250)
posted 33 minutes ago
comment by Cinciwolf----Old Trafford record attendance...... (U11551)
posted 14 minutes ago
Good ol' Hamas volunteering their people for mass suicide again for a war they can never ever win. But nah, Israel's fault of course.
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Completely missing the facking point there Cinci. Come on.
Do you think its OK to cut of water, electricity and food to innocent civilians? Just answer that question.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
For the kind of barbarity meted out against the Israeli civilians, Hamas has set the tone for this conflict.
The money spent on thousands of rockets would have been sufficient to provide their own water and electricity without relying on Israel.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Israel destroyed their only power station years ago.
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Too bad.
Maybe if the people of Gaza had elected a different set of people, things would be much different.
There's a reason Israel is not bombing the West Bank.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Too bad? Glib answer of the day.
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Gaza an open air prison bombed and Gazans killed by IDF snipers when they feel like it with no repercussions, Far right elected in Israel, settler Terrorists killing and attacking with impunity with the backing of the state and silence from the West. It was only a matter of time something big was going to happen.
If you read into any of the peace Process, not what's reported, but what actually is on offer or the changing of the goal posts, you'll see that the Israelis never wanted and do not want peace. They voted for Netanyahu, who Trump, Bill Clinton and Obama have said never wanted to deal or try to a peace deal. All smoke and mirrors.
The government of Israel and Hamas have the blood on their hands. Israel, the IDF and Settler Terrorists are no better or worse than Hamas. And those who enable them also have blood on their hands.
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Well said
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Yet US govs of both colours have continued supporting Israel for various reasons. Spare me the BS it is about seeking solutions.
comment by Cinciwolf----Old Trafford record attendance.....WOLVES V GRIMSBY. .......lolz (U11551)
posted 1 hour, 8 minutes ago
comment by K7-0ptimus Primal (U1282)
posted 51 minutes ago
comment by Cinciwolf----Old Trafford record attendance.....WOLVES V GRIMSBY. .......lolz (U11551)
posted 51 minutes ago
Good ol' Hamas volunteering their people for mass suicide again for a war they can never ever win. But nah, Israel's fault of course.
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Exactly. Clearly they're not very clever as they're just doing whatever it takes to give Israel an excuse to do what Israel has always wanted to do.
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Simplistic as it seems, this is exactly it. Whenever any international power asks Israel why, they have a mountain of terrorist evidence to fall back on. The flip side is if Hamas actually lobbied at international levels for a few years while not committing terrorist acts then they would gerner sympathy pretty quickly and the pressure would be on Israel.
But lets be honest, Hamas have zero interest in doing that and just want to commit terrorist acts.
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So Hamas have the option of advancing their cause through peaceful means but intentionally chose to use violence instead?
Makes sense. After all, they're not reasonable human beings as they just want to commit terrorist attacks.
Just saw a bunch of videos i wish I hadn’t.
Hamas are doing some absolutely vile things to innocent Israelis. They really are acting like terrorists, not “freedom fighters”.
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 41 minutes ago
Just saw a bunch of videos i wish I hadn’t.
Hamas are doing some absolutely vile things to innocent Israelis. They really are acting like terrorists, not “freedom fighters”.
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So does Israel
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 1 hour, 6 minutes ago
Just saw a bunch of videos i wish I hadn’t.
Hamas are doing some absolutely vile things to innocent Israelis. They really are acting like terrorists, not “freedom fighters”.
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Hamas are despicable and far worse than Israel. How many have died this past week as a direct result of Hamas deciding to commit these terrorist attacks to reignite the war which is exactly what they want.
comment by Cinciwolf----Old Trafford record attendance.....WOLVES V GRIMSBY. .......lolz (U11551)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 1 hour, 6 minutes ago
Just saw a bunch of videos i wish I hadn’t.
Hamas are doing some absolutely vile things to innocent Israelis. They really are acting like terrorists, not “freedom fighters”.
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Hamas are despicable and far worse than Israel. How many have died this past week as a direct result of Hamas deciding to commit these terrorist attacks to reignite the war which is exactly what they want.
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So Hamas are worse because they've killed more?
But Israel have killed way more overall.
So really you've just admitted Israel are worse without knowing.
comment by Cinciwolf----Old Trafford record attendance.....WOLVES V GRIMSBY. .......lolz (U11551)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 1 hour, 6 minutes ago
Just saw a bunch of videos i wish I hadn’t.
Hamas are doing some absolutely vile things to innocent Israelis. They really are acting like terrorists, not “freedom fighters”.
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Hamas are despicable and far worse than Israel. How many have died this past week as a direct result of Hamas deciding to commit these terrorist attacks to reignite the war which is exactly what they want.
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You need to educate yourself mate, do some reading FFS.
"Reignite the war"
comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 32 minutes ago
comment by Cinciwolf----Old Trafford record attendance.....WOLVES V GRIMSBY. .......lolz (U11551)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 1 hour, 6 minutes ago
Just saw a bunch of videos i wish I hadn’t.
Hamas are doing some absolutely vile things to innocent Israelis. They really are acting like terrorists, not “freedom fighters”.
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Hamas are despicable and far worse than Israel. How many have died this past week as a direct result of Hamas deciding to commit these terrorist attacks to reignite the war which is exactly what they want.
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So Hamas are worse because they've killed more?
But Israel have killed way more overall.
So really you've just admitted Israel are worse without knowing.
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Scrap merchants the lot of them
comment by Cinciwolf----Old Trafford record attendance.....WOLVES V GRIMSBY. .......lolz (U11551)
posted 1 hour, 8 minutes ago
comment by K7-0ptimus Primal (U1282)
posted 51 minutes ago
comment by Cinciwolf----Old Trafford record attendance.....WOLVES V GRIMSBY. .......lolz (U11551)
posted 51 minutes ago
Good ol' Hamas volunteering their people for mass suicide again for a war they can never ever win. But nah, Israel's fault of course.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Exactly. Clearly they're not very clever as they're just doing whatever it takes to give Israel an excuse to do what Israel has always wanted to do.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Simplistic as it seems, this is exactly it. Whenever any international power asks Israel why, they have a mountain of terrorist evidence to fall back on. The flip side is if Hamas actually lobbied at international levels for a few years while not committing terrorist acts then they would gerner sympathy pretty quickly and the pressure would be on Israel.
But lets be honest, Hamas have zero interest in doing that and just want to commit terrorist acts.
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Honestly this discussion is painful. People who don't know the elementary facts just firing off nonsense.
We have a documented diplomatic record. It shows two clear things; a negotiated settlement, including with Hamas, has been possible for a long, long time, but repeatedly blocked by the US & Israel.
Many, many ceasefire agreements have been put in place in the last two decades, overwhelmingly honoured by Hamas and repeatedly broken by Israel.
Despite the above two points, the conditions for Palestinians trapped in Gaza have gotten worse, and Palestinians in Gaza and the West Bank are routinely killed, attacked, beaten, incarcerated and humiliated on a daily basis (which never makes it to the news until brief moments where the dead Palestinians to Israelis ratio starts to narrow, then it and only then does it become headline news - when dead P's to I's is at a ratio of around 100:1, then it's simply not newsworthy).
There couldn't be a more potent breeding ground for extremism than the conditions inflicted upon Palestinians by Israel imaginable - as intelligence and security agencies openly concede - and what we're now seeing is the natural and horrific consequence of that.
I very much doubt any kind of settlement with Hamas could ever be negotiated at this point, but we have to remember that those are choices Israel & the US made repeatedly, for decades. The idea that Hamas are *only* interested in violence simply isn't (or at least *hasn't* been) true, and their violence we should remember is comparatively tiny to that of Israel's.
comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted 1 hour, 23 minutes ago
comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 32 minutes ago
comment by Cinciwolf----Old Trafford record attendance.....WOLVES V GRIMSBY. .......lolz (U11551)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 1 hour, 6 minutes ago
Just saw a bunch of videos i wish I hadn’t.
Hamas are doing some absolutely vile things to innocent Israelis. They really are acting like terrorists, not “freedom fighters”.
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Hamas are despicable and far worse than Israel. How many have died this past week as a direct result of Hamas deciding to commit these terrorist attacks to reignite the war which is exactly what they want.
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So Hamas are worse because they've killed more?
But Israel have killed way more overall.
So really you've just admitted Israel are worse without knowing.
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Scrap merchants the lot of them
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One created by the other.
Hamas have dumped on their own people.
Their actions will result in more Palestinian deaths than Israeli.
Israel will never know peace. They will no doubt keep bombing the sht out of Gaza but they only creating the next big attack against them.
Israel waaay out of line here
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posted on 9/10/23
comment by Thisishardcore (U9121)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by Cinciwolf----Old Trafford record attendance.....WOLVES V GRIMSBY. .......lolz (U11551)
posted 14 minutes ago
Good ol' Hamas volunteering their people for mass suicide again for a war they can never ever win. But nah, Israel's fault of course.
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Sorry what do you expect people who’s land is being illegally occupied by an illegal ruling body, backed by the west no less, who have had their rights denied and freedom of movement taken away, are meant to do? Say thank you and go about their day begging for scraps from the overlords?
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Sounds like the SNP manifesto
posted on 9/10/23
comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted 1 hour, 33 minutes ago
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 14 seconds ago
comment by Thisishardcore (U9121)
posted 53 minutes ago
Israel is a shining example of Great Britain’s contribution to the world at large
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Yeah, but that was 100 years ago to be fair.
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What have the English ever done for us....
well..there's roads, education, the viaduct, law & order...
don't forget the wine Reg'
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Bullsheet.
posted on 9/10/23
comment by Thisishardcore (U9121)
posted 32 minutes ago
comment by Cinciwolf----Old Trafford record attendance.....WOLVES V GRIMSBY. .......lolz (U11551)
posted 14 minutes ago
Good ol' Hamas volunteering their people for mass suicide again for a war they can never ever win. But nah, Israel's fault of course.
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Sorry what do you expect people who’s land is being illegally occupied by an illegal ruling body, backed by the west no less, who have had their rights denied and freedom of movement taken away, are meant to do? Say thank you and go about their day begging for scraps from the overlords?
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dialogue. I expect dialogue and a move away from terrorist actions. Israel wouldn't have a choice but to concede if Hamas did that instead of slaughtering hundreds. Hamas yet again have just set the process back years and years.
posted on 9/10/23
comment by Cloggy (U1250)
posted 33 minutes ago
comment by Cinciwolf----Old Trafford record attendance...... (U11551)
posted 14 minutes ago
Good ol' Hamas volunteering their people for mass suicide again for a war they can never ever win. But nah, Israel's fault of course.
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Completely missing the facking point there Cinci. Come on.
Do you think its OK to cut of water, electricity and food to innocent civilians? Just answer that question.
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For the kind of barbarity meted out against the Israeli civilians, Hamas has set the tone for this conflict.
The money spent on thousands of rockets would have been sufficient to provide their own water and electricity without relying on Israel.
posted on 9/10/23
comment by Cinciwolf----Old Trafford record attendance.....WOLVES V GRIMSBY. .......lolz (U11551)
posted 51 minutes ago
Good ol' Hamas volunteering their people for mass suicide again for a war they can never ever win. But nah, Israel's fault of course.
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Exactly. Clearly they're not very clever as they're just doing whatever it takes to give Israel an excuse to do what Israel has always wanted to do.
posted on 9/10/23
comment by mancini (U7179)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Cloggy (U1250)
posted 33 minutes ago
comment by Cinciwolf----Old Trafford record attendance...... (U11551)
posted 14 minutes ago
Good ol' Hamas volunteering their people for mass suicide again for a war they can never ever win. But nah, Israel's fault of course.
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Completely missing the facking point there Cinci. Come on.
Do you think its OK to cut of water, electricity and food to innocent civilians? Just answer that question.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
For the kind of barbarity meted out against the Israeli civilians, Hamas has set the tone for this conflict.
The money spent on thousands of rockets would have been sufficient to provide their own water and electricity without relying on Israel.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Israel destroyed their only power station years ago.
posted on 9/10/23
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by mancini (U7179)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Cloggy (U1250)
posted 33 minutes ago
comment by Cinciwolf----Old Trafford record attendance...... (U11551)
posted 14 minutes ago
Good ol' Hamas volunteering their people for mass suicide again for a war they can never ever win. But nah, Israel's fault of course.
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Completely missing the facking point there Cinci. Come on.
Do you think its OK to cut of water, electricity and food to innocent civilians? Just answer that question.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
For the kind of barbarity meted out against the Israeli civilians, Hamas has set the tone for this conflict.
The money spent on thousands of rockets would have been sufficient to provide their own water and electricity without relying on Israel.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Israel destroyed their only power station years ago.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Too bad.
Maybe if the people of Gaza had elected a different set of people, things would be much different.
There's a reason Israel is not bombing the West Bank.
posted on 9/10/23
comment by K7-0ptimus Primal (U1282)
posted 51 minutes ago
comment by Cinciwolf----Old Trafford record attendance.....WOLVES V GRIMSBY. .......lolz (U11551)
posted 51 minutes ago
Good ol' Hamas volunteering their people for mass suicide again for a war they can never ever win. But nah, Israel's fault of course.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Exactly. Clearly they're not very clever as they're just doing whatever it takes to give Israel an excuse to do what Israel has always wanted to do.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Simplistic as it seems, this is exactly it. Whenever any international power asks Israel why, they have a mountain of terrorist evidence to fall back on. The flip side is if Hamas actually lobbied at international levels for a few years while not committing terrorist acts then they would gerner sympathy pretty quickly and the pressure would be on Israel.
But lets be honest, Hamas have zero interest in doing that and just want to commit terrorist acts.
posted on 9/10/23
comment by mancini (U7179)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by mancini (U7179)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Cloggy (U1250)
posted 33 minutes ago
comment by Cinciwolf----Old Trafford record attendance...... (U11551)
posted 14 minutes ago
Good ol' Hamas volunteering their people for mass suicide again for a war they can never ever win. But nah, Israel's fault of course.
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Completely missing the facking point there Cinci. Come on.
Do you think its OK to cut of water, electricity and food to innocent civilians? Just answer that question.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
For the kind of barbarity meted out against the Israeli civilians, Hamas has set the tone for this conflict.
The money spent on thousands of rockets would have been sufficient to provide their own water and electricity without relying on Israel.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Israel destroyed their only power station years ago.
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Too bad.
Maybe if the people of Gaza had elected a different set of people, things would be much different.
There's a reason Israel is not bombing the West Bank.
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Too bad? Glib answer of the day.
posted on 9/10/23
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by mancini (U7179)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by mancini (U7179)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Cloggy (U1250)
posted 33 minutes ago
comment by Cinciwolf----Old Trafford record attendance...... (U11551)
posted 14 minutes ago
Good ol' Hamas volunteering their people for mass suicide again for a war they can never ever win. But nah, Israel's fault of course.
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Completely missing the facking point there Cinci. Come on.
Do you think its OK to cut of water, electricity and food to innocent civilians? Just answer that question.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
For the kind of barbarity meted out against the Israeli civilians, Hamas has set the tone for this conflict.
The money spent on thousands of rockets would have been sufficient to provide their own water and electricity without relying on Israel.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Israel destroyed their only power station years ago.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Too bad.
Maybe if the people of Gaza had elected a different set of people, things would be much different.
There's a reason Israel is not bombing the West Bank.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Too bad? Glib answer of the day.
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Gaza an open air prison bombed and Gazans killed by IDF snipers when they feel like it with no repercussions, Far right elected in Israel, settler Terrorists killing and attacking with impunity with the backing of the state and silence from the West. It was only a matter of time something big was going to happen.
If you read into any of the peace Process, not what's reported, but what actually is on offer or the changing of the goal posts, you'll see that the Israelis never wanted and do not want peace. They voted for Netanyahu, who Trump, Bill Clinton and Obama have said never wanted to deal or try to a peace deal. All smoke and mirrors.
The government of Israel and Hamas have the blood on their hands. Israel, the IDF and Settler Terrorists are no better or worse than Hamas. And those who enable them also have blood on their hands.
posted on 9/10/23
comment by CurrentlyInPoland (U11181)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by mancini (U7179)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by mancini (U7179)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Cloggy (U1250)
posted 33 minutes ago
comment by Cinciwolf----Old Trafford record attendance...... (U11551)
posted 14 minutes ago
Good ol' Hamas volunteering their people for mass suicide again for a war they can never ever win. But nah, Israel's fault of course.
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Completely missing the facking point there Cinci. Come on.
Do you think its OK to cut of water, electricity and food to innocent civilians? Just answer that question.
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For the kind of barbarity meted out against the Israeli civilians, Hamas has set the tone for this conflict.
The money spent on thousands of rockets would have been sufficient to provide their own water and electricity without relying on Israel.
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Israel destroyed their only power station years ago.
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Too bad.
Maybe if the people of Gaza had elected a different set of people, things would be much different.
There's a reason Israel is not bombing the West Bank.
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Too bad? Glib answer of the day.
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Gaza an open air prison bombed and Gazans killed by IDF snipers when they feel like it with no repercussions, Far right elected in Israel, settler Terrorists killing and attacking with impunity with the backing of the state and silence from the West. It was only a matter of time something big was going to happen.
If you read into any of the peace Process, not what's reported, but what actually is on offer or the changing of the goal posts, you'll see that the Israelis never wanted and do not want peace. They voted for Netanyahu, who Trump, Bill Clinton and Obama have said never wanted to deal or try to a peace deal. All smoke and mirrors.
The government of Israel and Hamas have the blood on their hands. Israel, the IDF and Settler Terrorists are no better or worse than Hamas. And those who enable them also have blood on their hands.
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Well said
posted on 9/10/23
https://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/israeli-settler-accused-involvement-killing-palestinian-moved-house-102147805
The acts of terror are certainly not one-sided.
posted on 9/10/23
Do you think its OK to cut of water, electricity and food to innocent civilians? Just answer that question.
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I would prefer this to happen to me than to be blown to smithereens by a bomb or rocket.
There are no good sides in the protagonists in this conflict.
posted on 9/10/23
comment by >💲Baz tard (U19119)
posted 43 minutes ago
comment by CurrentlyInPoland (U11181)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by mancini (U7179)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by mancini (U7179)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Cloggy (U1250)
posted 33 minutes ago
comment by Cinciwolf----Old Trafford record attendance...... (U11551)
posted 14 minutes ago
Good ol' Hamas volunteering their people for mass suicide again for a war they can never ever win. But nah, Israel's fault of course.
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Completely missing the facking point there Cinci. Come on.
Do you think its OK to cut of water, electricity and food to innocent civilians? Just answer that question.
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For the kind of barbarity meted out against the Israeli civilians, Hamas has set the tone for this conflict.
The money spent on thousands of rockets would have been sufficient to provide their own water and electricity without relying on Israel.
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Israel destroyed their only power station years ago.
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Too bad.
Maybe if the people of Gaza had elected a different set of people, things would be much different.
There's a reason Israel is not bombing the West Bank.
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Too bad? Glib answer of the day.
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Gaza an open air prison bombed and Gazans killed by IDF snipers when they feel like it with no repercussions, Far right elected in Israel, settler Terrorists killing and attacking with impunity with the backing of the state and silence from the West. It was only a matter of time something big was going to happen.
If you read into any of the peace Process, not what's reported, but what actually is on offer or the changing of the goal posts, you'll see that the Israelis never wanted and do not want peace. They voted for Netanyahu, who Trump, Bill Clinton and Obama have said never wanted to deal or try to a peace deal. All smoke and mirrors.
The government of Israel and Hamas have the blood on their hands. Israel, the IDF and Settler Terrorists are no better or worse than Hamas. And those who enable them also have blood on their hands.
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Well said
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Yet US govs of both colours have continued supporting Israel for various reasons. Spare me the BS it is about seeking solutions.
posted on 9/10/23
comment by Cinciwolf----Old Trafford record attendance.....WOLVES V GRIMSBY. .......lolz (U11551)
posted 1 hour, 8 minutes ago
comment by K7-0ptimus Primal (U1282)
posted 51 minutes ago
comment by Cinciwolf----Old Trafford record attendance.....WOLVES V GRIMSBY. .......lolz (U11551)
posted 51 minutes ago
Good ol' Hamas volunteering their people for mass suicide again for a war they can never ever win. But nah, Israel's fault of course.
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Exactly. Clearly they're not very clever as they're just doing whatever it takes to give Israel an excuse to do what Israel has always wanted to do.
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Simplistic as it seems, this is exactly it. Whenever any international power asks Israel why, they have a mountain of terrorist evidence to fall back on. The flip side is if Hamas actually lobbied at international levels for a few years while not committing terrorist acts then they would gerner sympathy pretty quickly and the pressure would be on Israel.
But lets be honest, Hamas have zero interest in doing that and just want to commit terrorist acts.
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So Hamas have the option of advancing their cause through peaceful means but intentionally chose to use violence instead?
Makes sense. After all, they're not reasonable human beings as they just want to commit terrorist attacks.
posted on 9/10/23
Just saw a bunch of videos i wish I hadn’t.
Hamas are doing some absolutely vile things to innocent Israelis. They really are acting like terrorists, not “freedom fighters”.
posted on 9/10/23
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 41 minutes ago
Just saw a bunch of videos i wish I hadn’t.
Hamas are doing some absolutely vile things to innocent Israelis. They really are acting like terrorists, not “freedom fighters”.
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So does Israel
posted on 9/10/23
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 1 hour, 6 minutes ago
Just saw a bunch of videos i wish I hadn’t.
Hamas are doing some absolutely vile things to innocent Israelis. They really are acting like terrorists, not “freedom fighters”.
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Hamas are despicable and far worse than Israel. How many have died this past week as a direct result of Hamas deciding to commit these terrorist attacks to reignite the war which is exactly what they want.
posted on 9/10/23
comment by Cinciwolf----Old Trafford record attendance.....WOLVES V GRIMSBY. .......lolz (U11551)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 1 hour, 6 minutes ago
Just saw a bunch of videos i wish I hadn’t.
Hamas are doing some absolutely vile things to innocent Israelis. They really are acting like terrorists, not “freedom fighters”.
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Hamas are despicable and far worse than Israel. How many have died this past week as a direct result of Hamas deciding to commit these terrorist attacks to reignite the war which is exactly what they want.
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So Hamas are worse because they've killed more?
But Israel have killed way more overall.
So really you've just admitted Israel are worse without knowing.
posted on 9/10/23
comment by Cinciwolf----Old Trafford record attendance.....WOLVES V GRIMSBY. .......lolz (U11551)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 1 hour, 6 minutes ago
Just saw a bunch of videos i wish I hadn’t.
Hamas are doing some absolutely vile things to innocent Israelis. They really are acting like terrorists, not “freedom fighters”.
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Hamas are despicable and far worse than Israel. How many have died this past week as a direct result of Hamas deciding to commit these terrorist attacks to reignite the war which is exactly what they want.
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You need to educate yourself mate, do some reading FFS.
"Reignite the war"
posted on 9/10/23
comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 32 minutes ago
comment by Cinciwolf----Old Trafford record attendance.....WOLVES V GRIMSBY. .......lolz (U11551)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 1 hour, 6 minutes ago
Just saw a bunch of videos i wish I hadn’t.
Hamas are doing some absolutely vile things to innocent Israelis. They really are acting like terrorists, not “freedom fighters”.
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Hamas are despicable and far worse than Israel. How many have died this past week as a direct result of Hamas deciding to commit these terrorist attacks to reignite the war which is exactly what they want.
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So Hamas are worse because they've killed more?
But Israel have killed way more overall.
So really you've just admitted Israel are worse without knowing.
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Scrap merchants the lot of them
posted on 9/10/23
comment by Cinciwolf----Old Trafford record attendance.....WOLVES V GRIMSBY. .......lolz (U11551)
posted 1 hour, 8 minutes ago
comment by K7-0ptimus Primal (U1282)
posted 51 minutes ago
comment by Cinciwolf----Old Trafford record attendance.....WOLVES V GRIMSBY. .......lolz (U11551)
posted 51 minutes ago
Good ol' Hamas volunteering their people for mass suicide again for a war they can never ever win. But nah, Israel's fault of course.
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Exactly. Clearly they're not very clever as they're just doing whatever it takes to give Israel an excuse to do what Israel has always wanted to do.
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Simplistic as it seems, this is exactly it. Whenever any international power asks Israel why, they have a mountain of terrorist evidence to fall back on. The flip side is if Hamas actually lobbied at international levels for a few years while not committing terrorist acts then they would gerner sympathy pretty quickly and the pressure would be on Israel.
But lets be honest, Hamas have zero interest in doing that and just want to commit terrorist acts.
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Honestly this discussion is painful. People who don't know the elementary facts just firing off nonsense.
We have a documented diplomatic record. It shows two clear things; a negotiated settlement, including with Hamas, has been possible for a long, long time, but repeatedly blocked by the US & Israel.
Many, many ceasefire agreements have been put in place in the last two decades, overwhelmingly honoured by Hamas and repeatedly broken by Israel.
Despite the above two points, the conditions for Palestinians trapped in Gaza have gotten worse, and Palestinians in Gaza and the West Bank are routinely killed, attacked, beaten, incarcerated and humiliated on a daily basis (which never makes it to the news until brief moments where the dead Palestinians to Israelis ratio starts to narrow, then it and only then does it become headline news - when dead P's to I's is at a ratio of around 100:1, then it's simply not newsworthy).
There couldn't be a more potent breeding ground for extremism than the conditions inflicted upon Palestinians by Israel imaginable - as intelligence and security agencies openly concede - and what we're now seeing is the natural and horrific consequence of that.
I very much doubt any kind of settlement with Hamas could ever be negotiated at this point, but we have to remember that those are choices Israel & the US made repeatedly, for decades. The idea that Hamas are *only* interested in violence simply isn't (or at least *hasn't* been) true, and their violence we should remember is comparatively tiny to that of Israel's.
posted on 9/10/23
comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted 1 hour, 23 minutes ago
comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 32 minutes ago
comment by Cinciwolf----Old Trafford record attendance.....WOLVES V GRIMSBY. .......lolz (U11551)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 1 hour, 6 minutes ago
Just saw a bunch of videos i wish I hadn’t.
Hamas are doing some absolutely vile things to innocent Israelis. They really are acting like terrorists, not “freedom fighters”.
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Hamas are despicable and far worse than Israel. How many have died this past week as a direct result of Hamas deciding to commit these terrorist attacks to reignite the war which is exactly what they want.
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So Hamas are worse because they've killed more?
But Israel have killed way more overall.
So really you've just admitted Israel are worse without knowing.
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Scrap merchants the lot of them
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One created by the other.
posted on 10/10/23
Hamas have dumped on their own people.
Their actions will result in more Palestinian deaths than Israeli.
posted on 10/10/23
Israel will never know peace. They will no doubt keep bombing the sht out of Gaza but they only creating the next big attack against them.
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