he didn't go defensive. The backup players are more used to conteball and reverted to type. long journey to get everyone on the same page
he said after the game he was disappointed with the lack of positivity
I think hobby is a real problem, he seems be too far gone after Conte and Jose. So easily slips into "defend the lead mode" and stops trying to play
You guys looked understandable leggy that's all. Don't think he changed philosophy.
In my opinion he didn’t go back on his principles, he just trusts Hojbjerg and Bentancur more than Gio. Which is fair in my book
If you want both Gio and Bentancur in, who you dropping?
Maddison injured, Bissouma suspended
Watching the game, I thought you were incredibly open if anything. Far from defensive.
Would sooner put Bentancur in to replace Madders than GLC. More chance of scoring with his 5 goals in 38 compared to 1 in 58 for GLC.
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We lost the distribution centre from the back in Romero and VDV and the distributor in Maddison, the players that came in could do neither thats why Son was very inconspicuous, I have no confidence that Lo Celso would be any help at all, doubtful or any of the others, at least Ange has another week to work with them now, may be able to get some rhythm going
comment by Sir Tottenham of Hotspur (U17379)
posted 31 minutes ago
In my opinion he didn’t go back on his principles, he just trusts Hojbjerg and Bentancur more than Gio. Which is fair in my book
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I wouldn`t trust Hojbjerg in this system, and yesterday proved it
comment by Ioavirgo (U10470)
posted 22 minutes ago
Maddison injured, Bissouma suspended
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Of course, sorry didn't realise you just meant for the next game. In which case I agree.
comment by ®åρtor ✡ (U1071)
posted 32 minutes ago
comment by montleeds (U18330)
posted 39 minutes ago
You guys looked understandable leggy that's all. Don't think he changed philosophy.
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Doesn’t concern you.
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Campaigning for unt of the year?
You could be a shoe in.
comment by ®åρtor ✡ (U1071)
posted 43 minutes ago
comment by montleeds (U18330)
posted 39 minutes ago
You guys looked understandable leggy that's all. Don't think he changed philosophy.
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Doesn’t concern you.
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Calm down
comment by Vladimikel Artutin - committing war crimes against football since 2019 (U18355)
posted 1 hour, 11 minutes ago
Watching the game, I thought you were incredibly open if anything. Far from defensive.
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we only had 1 shot after 50 minutes. they were causing a lot of problems because we weren't getting out and playing
comment by Vladimikel Artutin - committing war crimes against football since 2019 (U18355)
posted 2 hours, 11 minutes ago
Watching the game, I thought you were incredibly open if anything. Far from defensive.
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Ange does not know how to play defensive
comment by >💲Baz tard🦍+❄️=? (U19119)
posted 29 minutes ago
comment by Vladimikel Artutin - committing war crimes against football since 2019 (U18355)
posted 2 hours, 11 minutes ago
Watching the game, I thought you were incredibly open if anything. Far from defensive.
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Ange does not know how to play defensive
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But unfortunately some of his Conte scarred players don't know how to do anything else.
comment by PhilspursFGR (U3278)
posted 2 hours, 56 minutes ago
If you want both Gio and Bentancur in, who you dropping?
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never thought I'd see anyone ask this before January.
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comment by PhilspursFGR (U3278)
posted 5 hours, 52 minutes ago
comment by Ioavirgo (U10470)
posted 22 minutes ago
Maddison injured, Bissouma suspended
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Of course, sorry didn't realise you just meant for the next game. In which case I agree.
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Its going to be a bumpy November and December. We need to get back to winning against Villa
Got to hope that the players who go off to play for their countries at the break don't come back injured!
And its not clear that Maddison or Vdv will be back for Villa.
oh yes, and Villa are playing very well.
What are you talking about Ted? Maddison and VDV will be out for way longer than the time of the Vila game
comment by palmers_spur (U8896)
posted 58 minutes ago
What are you talking about Ted? Maddison and VDV will be out for way longer than the time of the Vila game
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Loavirgo is talking about wining at Villa, don't you know?
comment by Dave&Danny COYH (U4428)
posted 16 hours, 2 minutes ago
We lost the distribution centre from the back in Romero and VDV and the distributor in Maddison, the players that came in could do neither thats why Son was very inconspicuous, I have no confidence that Lo Celso would be any help at all, doubtful or any of the others, at least Ange has another week to work with them now, may be able to get some rhythm going
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I think this is close to the truth. Son was totally lost.
However there is one other thing.....
managers are paid to manage the individual players and Aussieglue has failed miserably to do that.
He hasn't stopped Romero from making ridiculous challenges, he hasn't stopped Udogie from sliding in...
and he hasn't stopped Bissouma from risky play...yet again against Wolves Bissouma was lucky not to get a second yellow.
If Aussieglue is only good at high level strategy and cannot man-manage players, he is only half the manager we need, and he needs help.
Don't think that's fair, Ted. He's coaching a positive system that requires players to aggressively win the ball back as soon as it's lost. It's no coincidence Spurs have had three reds already this season - they're being told to put in more tackles.
Whether you agree with Ange's chosen approach is a different matter but it's not fair to suggest he's not coaching them. The indiscipline is arguably a result of his coaching, not a lack of it
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posted on 12/11/23
he didn't go defensive. The backup players are more used to conteball and reverted to type. long journey to get everyone on the same page
posted on 12/11/23
he said after the game he was disappointed with the lack of positivity
I think hobby is a real problem, he seems be too far gone after Conte and Jose. So easily slips into "defend the lead mode" and stops trying to play
posted on 12/11/23
You guys looked understandable leggy that's all. Don't think he changed philosophy.
posted on 12/11/23
In my opinion he didn’t go back on his principles, he just trusts Hojbjerg and Bentancur more than Gio. Which is fair in my book
posted on 12/11/23
If you want both Gio and Bentancur in, who you dropping?
posted on 12/11/23
Maddison injured, Bissouma suspended
posted on 12/11/23
Watching the game, I thought you were incredibly open if anything. Far from defensive.
posted on 12/11/23
Would sooner put Bentancur in to replace Madders than GLC. More chance of scoring with his 5 goals in 38 compared to 1 in 58 for GLC.
posted on 12/11/23
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posted on 12/11/23
We lost the distribution centre from the back in Romero and VDV and the distributor in Maddison, the players that came in could do neither thats why Son was very inconspicuous, I have no confidence that Lo Celso would be any help at all, doubtful or any of the others, at least Ange has another week to work with them now, may be able to get some rhythm going
posted on 12/11/23
comment by Sir Tottenham of Hotspur (U17379)
posted 31 minutes ago
In my opinion he didn’t go back on his principles, he just trusts Hojbjerg and Bentancur more than Gio. Which is fair in my book
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I wouldn`t trust Hojbjerg in this system, and yesterday proved it
posted on 12/11/23
comment by Ioavirgo (U10470)
posted 22 minutes ago
Maddison injured, Bissouma suspended
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Of course, sorry didn't realise you just meant for the next game. In which case I agree.
posted on 12/11/23
comment by ®åρtor ✡ (U1071)
posted 32 minutes ago
comment by montleeds (U18330)
posted 39 minutes ago
You guys looked understandable leggy that's all. Don't think he changed philosophy.
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Doesn’t concern you.
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Campaigning for unt of the year?
You could be a shoe in.
posted on 12/11/23
comment by ®åρtor ✡ (U1071)
posted 43 minutes ago
comment by montleeds (U18330)
posted 39 minutes ago
You guys looked understandable leggy that's all. Don't think he changed philosophy.
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Doesn’t concern you.
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Calm down
posted on 12/11/23
comment by Vladimikel Artutin - committing war crimes against football since 2019 (U18355)
posted 1 hour, 11 minutes ago
Watching the game, I thought you were incredibly open if anything. Far from defensive.
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we only had 1 shot after 50 minutes. they were causing a lot of problems because we weren't getting out and playing
posted on 12/11/23
comment by Vladimikel Artutin - committing war crimes against football since 2019 (U18355)
posted 2 hours, 11 minutes ago
Watching the game, I thought you were incredibly open if anything. Far from defensive.
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Ange does not know how to play defensive
posted on 12/11/23
comment by >💲Baz tard🦍+❄️=? (U19119)
posted 29 minutes ago
comment by Vladimikel Artutin - committing war crimes against football since 2019 (U18355)
posted 2 hours, 11 minutes ago
Watching the game, I thought you were incredibly open if anything. Far from defensive.
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Ange does not know how to play defensive
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But unfortunately some of his Conte scarred players don't know how to do anything else.
posted on 12/11/23
comment by PhilspursFGR (U3278)
posted 2 hours, 56 minutes ago
If you want both Gio and Bentancur in, who you dropping?
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never thought I'd see anyone ask this before January.
posted on 12/11/23
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posted on 12/11/23
comment by PhilspursFGR (U3278)
posted 5 hours, 52 minutes ago
comment by Ioavirgo (U10470)
posted 22 minutes ago
Maddison injured, Bissouma suspended
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Of course, sorry didn't realise you just meant for the next game. In which case I agree.
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Its going to be a bumpy November and December. We need to get back to winning against Villa
posted on 12/11/23
Got to hope that the players who go off to play for their countries at the break don't come back injured!
And its not clear that Maddison or Vdv will be back for Villa.
oh yes, and Villa are playing very well.
posted on 12/11/23
What are you talking about Ted? Maddison and VDV will be out for way longer than the time of the Vila game
posted on 12/11/23
comment by palmers_spur (U8896)
posted 58 minutes ago
What are you talking about Ted? Maddison and VDV will be out for way longer than the time of the Vila game
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Loavirgo is talking about wining at Villa, don't you know?
posted on 13/11/23
comment by Dave&Danny COYH (U4428)
posted 16 hours, 2 minutes ago
We lost the distribution centre from the back in Romero and VDV and the distributor in Maddison, the players that came in could do neither thats why Son was very inconspicuous, I have no confidence that Lo Celso would be any help at all, doubtful or any of the others, at least Ange has another week to work with them now, may be able to get some rhythm going
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I think this is close to the truth. Son was totally lost.
However there is one other thing.....
managers are paid to manage the individual players and Aussieglue has failed miserably to do that.
He hasn't stopped Romero from making ridiculous challenges, he hasn't stopped Udogie from sliding in...
and he hasn't stopped Bissouma from risky play...yet again against Wolves Bissouma was lucky not to get a second yellow.
If Aussieglue is only good at high level strategy and cannot man-manage players, he is only half the manager we need, and he needs help.
posted on 13/11/23
Don't think that's fair, Ted. He's coaching a positive system that requires players to aggressively win the ball back as soon as it's lost. It's no coincidence Spurs have had three reds already this season - they're being told to put in more tackles.
Whether you agree with Ange's chosen approach is a different matter but it's not fair to suggest he's not coaching them. The indiscipline is arguably a result of his coaching, not a lack of it
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