5/1 is a terrible price. There’s no chance Chelsea finish top 4 this season
Nothing to with bookies not fancying us, is just those unemployed neighbours have a lot of free time to put bets using their benefit thus shortening their odd. Partly this I am sure.
I don't think it's that bad.
If what we have seen over recent weeks is Poch's impact on the team, then it looks like Chelsea are on the way up.
Spurs I suspect with the injuries and lack of depth could go on the slide.
United will be a basketcase.
Newcastle have been impacted by CL and injuries but that tide should turn at some point.
Villa are a dark horse but with Europe as well it's a tough ask.
I'd have money on Chelsea over United at this stage. Next 3 games are crucial.
Top 4 Are the fourth place side going to stand still while we recover the 10 point gap?
I doubt that very much.
4th place will require (aprx)70 points?
Currently we are on 16 points with 12 games played.
26 games to play, with a total of 78 points up for grabs.
Can we return 54 points from 78 over 26 games ?
Are we likely to drop only 24 points over the rest of the season ?
Cant see it, awful odds as V/A said, suckering the Cfc faithful imo.
But if we get 7/9 points out of the next three and by the half way stage we are at 30 points+, we may well be in with a shot at 5th place with 65 points, picking up 35 points over the last 19 games.
I think to do it we need to go on an unbeaten run between now and January.
If we did manage that imo it will be a miracle.
Were not at that level of consistency yet. We may be by March/ April, when it will be too late unfortunately.
COY Blues!
Chelsea ain’t getting top 4
comment by Vladimikel Artutin - committing war crimes aga... (U18355)
posted 39 minutes ago
5/1 is a terrible price. There’s no chance Chelsea finish top 4 this season
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It is highly unlikely as we can't beat Forest and West Ham and Bournemouth
And club doctor and physios need shooting
But there is a long way to go
It's tough one to call.
I think City and Arsenal are certs, maybe Liverpool also so it's one other place up for grabs.
I don't think we will get top 4 but we've been awful and I think we are only 2 points worse off than this time last season. If we can get to even the levels of last season who knows.
Are the wheels coming off at Spurs?
Are the overachieving Newcastle starting to return to expected levels?
Can Villa maintain their form?
Chelsea look like they are improving but have they already given themselves too much to do?
comment by He who Dares, waits for Trophies (U15748)
posted 46 minutes ago
Nothing to with bookies not fancying us, is just those unemployed neighbours have a lot of free time to put bets using their benefit thus shortening their odd. Partly this I am sure.
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Historical maybe: Spurs flattering to deceive
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 14 minutes ago
It's tough one to call.
I think City and Arsenal are certs, maybe Liverpool also so it's one other place up for grabs.
I don't think we will get top 4 but we've been awful and I think we are only 2 points worse off than this time last season. If we can get to even the levels of last season who knows.
Are the wheels coming off at Spurs?
Are the overachieving Newcastle starting to return to expected levels?
Can Villa maintain their form?
Chelsea look like they are improving but have they already given themselves too much to do?
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I think Liverpool pretty certain too tbh
1/8 vs 5/4 Spurs
comment by CFC: Quad stoppers (U20729)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 14 minutes ago
It's tough one to call.
I think City and Arsenal are certs, maybe Liverpool also so it's one other place up for grabs.
I don't think we will get top 4 but we've been awful and I think we are only 2 points worse off than this time last season. If we can get to even the levels of last season who knows.
Are the wheels coming off at Spurs?
Are the overachieving Newcastle starting to return to expected levels?
Can Villa maintain their form?
Chelsea look like they are improving but have they already given themselves too much to do?
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I think Liverpool pretty certain too tbh
1/8 vs 5/4 Spurs
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They are very likely. Their results have kind of been as you’d expect them to be so far give or take 1 or 2 games.
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 37 minutes ago
It's tough one to call.
I think City and Arsenal are certs, maybe Liverpool also so it's one other place up for grabs.
I don't think we will get top 4 but we've been awful and I think we are only 2 points worse off than this time last season. If we can get to even the levels of last season who knows.
Are the wheels coming off at Spurs?
Are the overachieving Newcastle starting to return to expected levels?
Can Villa maintain their form?
Chelsea look like they are improving but have they already given themselves too much to do?
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Is United winging it style with 1-0 win last and will ETH be here come Xmas?
comment by He who Dares, waits for Trophies (U15748)
posted 1 hour, 16 minutes ago
Nothing to with bookies not fancying us, is just those unemployed neighbours have a lot of free time to put bets using their benefit thus shortening their odd. Partly this I am sure.
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Fair enough. But lads, it's Spurs
comment by Dirty Pranchez (U22336)
posted 2 hours, 3 minutes ago
Chelsea ain’t getting top 4
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way too early to make such bold statements
comment by CFC: Quad stoppers (U20729)
posted 1 hour, 8 minutes ago
comment by He who Dares, waits for Trophies (U15748)
posted 1 hour, 16 minutes ago
Nothing to with bookies not fancying us, is just those unemployed neighbours have a lot of free time to put bets using their benefit thus shortening their odd. Partly this I am sure.
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Fair enough. But lads, it's Spurs
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Yeah, Utd said the same and turned up at the Spurs ground and got sent back with 2-0 defeat
Don't forget that 6-2 thrashing Spurs inflicted to Utd at OT under JM, their ex-manager....Oh how sweet that was
typed 6-2, meant to type 6-1
comment by He who Dares, waits for Trophies (U15748)
posted 1 hour, 30 minutes ago
comment by Dirty Pranchez (U22336)
posted 2 hours, 3 minutes ago
Chelsea ain’t getting top 4
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way too early to make such bold statements
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From the geezer who declared poor old Jimmy brown bread years ago
But to confirm Chelsea won’t get top 4 this season
A season at least too early for them.
Top 4 will be as it is right now.
comment by Dirty Pranchez (U22336)
posted 16 minutes ago
But to confirm Chelsea won’t get top 4 this season
A season at least too early for them.
Top 4 will be as it is right now.
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Too early Newcastle and United should improve
The whole thing hinges on Spurs getting players back - if Maddison and Micky are back early new year then we’re a shoe in for 4th - our first team we’re blowing teams away first 10 games.
Otherwise Levy has faaacked us with a paper thin squad
comment by Striketeam7 - There used to be a football club over there (U18109)
posted 2 hours, 12 minutes ago
The whole thing hinges on Spurs getting players back - if Maddison and Micky are back early new year then we’re a shoe in for 4th - our first team we’re blowing teams away first 10 games.
Otherwise Levy has faaacked us with a paper thin squad
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Even with them back spurs aren't a shoe in at all.
Son needs to keep firing and Maddison can't have a dip in form, which he will as he has never played at the level he was for a whole season.
Romero is a walking red card and spurs have had more luck than I've ever seen a team have before, until karma hit in one game 😂
Spurs were at their limits and plenty of teams with stronger squads are yet to reach theirs. Top 6 would be success for spurs in my opinion, especially as the boss has shown he can be very limited in his approach and resistant to change.
comment by FootyMcfootfoot (U21853)
posted 1 hour, 35 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - There used to be a football club over there (U18109)
posted 2 hours, 12 minutes ago
The whole thing hinges on Spurs getting players back - if Maddison and Micky are back early new year then we’re a shoe in for 4th - our first team we’re blowing teams away first 10 games.
Otherwise Levy has faaacked us with a paper thin squad
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Even with them back spurs aren't a shoe in at all.
Son needs to keep firing and Maddison can't have a dip in form, which he will as he has never played at the level he was for a whole season.
Romero is a walking red card and spurs have had more luck than I've ever seen a team have before, until karma hit in one game 😂
Spurs were at their limits and plenty of teams with stronger squads are yet to reach theirs. Top 6 would be success for spurs in my opinion, especially as the boss has shown he can be very limited in his approach and resistant to change.
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Nah we walk it with a fully fit squad, Ange had us playing the best ball in the Prem
comment by Striketeam7 - There used to be a football club over there (U18109)
posted 1 hour, 15 minutes ago
comment by FootyMcfootfoot (U21853)
posted 1 hour, 35 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - There used to be a football club over there (U18109)
posted 2 hours, 12 minutes ago
The whole thing hinges on Spurs getting players back - if Maddison and Micky are back early new year then we’re a shoe in for 4th - our first team we’re blowing teams away first 10 games.
Otherwise Levy has faaacked us with a paper thin squad
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Even with them back spurs aren't a shoe in at all.
Son needs to keep firing and Maddison can't have a dip in form, which he will as he has never played at the level he was for a whole season.
Romero is a walking red card and spurs have had more luck than I've ever seen a team have before, until karma hit in one game 😂
Spurs were at their limits and plenty of teams with stronger squads are yet to reach theirs. Top 6 would be success for spurs in my opinion, especially as the boss has shown he can be very limited in his approach and resistant to change.
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Nah we walk it with a fully fit squad, Ange had us playing the best ball in the Prem
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Even with a fully fit squad you'd get torn a new one by several teams with how he sets up. Two CBs have a red card or an error in them. Good form is short term.
I'd expect a fully fit Newcastle/Brighton team to smash spurs tbh. Footballs good to watch but not trophy winning if a coach doesn't have a plan B or C.
comment by FootyMcfootfoot (U21853)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - There used to be a football club over there (U18109)
posted 1 hour, 15 minutes ago
comment by FootyMcfootfoot (U21853)
posted 1 hour, 35 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - There used to be a football club over there (U18109)
posted 2 hours, 12 minutes ago
The whole thing hinges on Spurs getting players back - if Maddison and Micky are back early new year then we’re a shoe in for 4th - our first team we’re blowing teams away first 10 games.
Otherwise Levy has faaacked us with a paper thin squad
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Even with them back spurs aren't a shoe in at all.
Son needs to keep firing and Maddison can't have a dip in form, which he will as he has never played at the level he was for a whole season.
Romero is a walking red card and spurs have had more luck than I've ever seen a team have before, until karma hit in one game 😂
Spurs were at their limits and plenty of teams with stronger squads are yet to reach theirs. Top 6 would be success for spurs in my opinion, especially as the boss has shown he can be very limited in his approach and resistant to change.
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Nah we walk it with a fully fit squad, Ange had us playing the best ball in the Prem
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Even with a fully fit squad you'd get torn a new one by several teams with how he sets up. Two CBs have a red card or an error in them. Good form is short term.
I'd expect a fully fit Newcastle/Brighton team to smash spurs tbh. Footballs good to watch but not trophy winning if a coach doesn't have a plan B or C.
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We were legit title challengers before the injuries and suspensions, comfortable wins over Liverpool and United, unlucky to only get a point at Arsenal.
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posted on 13/11/23
5/1 is a terrible price. There’s no chance Chelsea finish top 4 this season
posted on 13/11/23
Nothing to with bookies not fancying us, is just those unemployed neighbours have a lot of free time to put bets using their benefit thus shortening their odd. Partly this I am sure.
posted on 13/11/23
I don't think it's that bad.
If what we have seen over recent weeks is Poch's impact on the team, then it looks like Chelsea are on the way up.
Spurs I suspect with the injuries and lack of depth could go on the slide.
United will be a basketcase.
Newcastle have been impacted by CL and injuries but that tide should turn at some point.
Villa are a dark horse but with Europe as well it's a tough ask.
I'd have money on Chelsea over United at this stage. Next 3 games are crucial.
posted on 13/11/23
Top 4 Are the fourth place side going to stand still while we recover the 10 point gap?
I doubt that very much.
4th place will require (aprx)70 points?
Currently we are on 16 points with 12 games played.
26 games to play, with a total of 78 points up for grabs.
Can we return 54 points from 78 over 26 games ?
Are we likely to drop only 24 points over the rest of the season ?
Cant see it, awful odds as V/A said, suckering the Cfc faithful imo.
But if we get 7/9 points out of the next three and by the half way stage we are at 30 points+, we may well be in with a shot at 5th place with 65 points, picking up 35 points over the last 19 games.
I think to do it we need to go on an unbeaten run between now and January.
If we did manage that imo it will be a miracle.
Were not at that level of consistency yet. We may be by March/ April, when it will be too late unfortunately.
COY Blues!
posted on 13/11/23
Chelsea ain’t getting top 4
posted on 13/11/23
comment by Vladimikel Artutin - committing war crimes aga... (U18355)
posted 39 minutes ago
5/1 is a terrible price. There’s no chance Chelsea finish top 4 this season
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It is highly unlikely as we can't beat Forest and West Ham and Bournemouth
And club doctor and physios need shooting
But there is a long way to go
posted on 13/11/23
It's tough one to call.
I think City and Arsenal are certs, maybe Liverpool also so it's one other place up for grabs.
I don't think we will get top 4 but we've been awful and I think we are only 2 points worse off than this time last season. If we can get to even the levels of last season who knows.
Are the wheels coming off at Spurs?
Are the overachieving Newcastle starting to return to expected levels?
Can Villa maintain their form?
Chelsea look like they are improving but have they already given themselves too much to do?
posted on 13/11/23
comment by He who Dares, waits for Trophies (U15748)
posted 46 minutes ago
Nothing to with bookies not fancying us, is just those unemployed neighbours have a lot of free time to put bets using their benefit thus shortening their odd. Partly this I am sure.
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Historical maybe: Spurs flattering to deceive
posted on 13/11/23
The process agreed
posted on 13/11/23
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 14 minutes ago
It's tough one to call.
I think City and Arsenal are certs, maybe Liverpool also so it's one other place up for grabs.
I don't think we will get top 4 but we've been awful and I think we are only 2 points worse off than this time last season. If we can get to even the levels of last season who knows.
Are the wheels coming off at Spurs?
Are the overachieving Newcastle starting to return to expected levels?
Can Villa maintain their form?
Chelsea look like they are improving but have they already given themselves too much to do?
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I think Liverpool pretty certain too tbh
1/8 vs 5/4 Spurs
posted on 13/11/23
comment by CFC: Quad stoppers (U20729)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 14 minutes ago
It's tough one to call.
I think City and Arsenal are certs, maybe Liverpool also so it's one other place up for grabs.
I don't think we will get top 4 but we've been awful and I think we are only 2 points worse off than this time last season. If we can get to even the levels of last season who knows.
Are the wheels coming off at Spurs?
Are the overachieving Newcastle starting to return to expected levels?
Can Villa maintain their form?
Chelsea look like they are improving but have they already given themselves too much to do?
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I think Liverpool pretty certain too tbh
1/8 vs 5/4 Spurs
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They are very likely. Their results have kind of been as you’d expect them to be so far give or take 1 or 2 games.
posted on 13/11/23
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 37 minutes ago
It's tough one to call.
I think City and Arsenal are certs, maybe Liverpool also so it's one other place up for grabs.
I don't think we will get top 4 but we've been awful and I think we are only 2 points worse off than this time last season. If we can get to even the levels of last season who knows.
Are the wheels coming off at Spurs?
Are the overachieving Newcastle starting to return to expected levels?
Can Villa maintain their form?
Chelsea look like they are improving but have they already given themselves too much to do?
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Is United winging it style with 1-0 win last and will ETH be here come Xmas?
posted on 13/11/23
comment by He who Dares, waits for Trophies (U15748)
posted 1 hour, 16 minutes ago
Nothing to with bookies not fancying us, is just those unemployed neighbours have a lot of free time to put bets using their benefit thus shortening their odd. Partly this I am sure.
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Fair enough. But lads, it's Spurs
posted on 13/11/23
comment by Dirty Pranchez (U22336)
posted 2 hours, 3 minutes ago
Chelsea ain’t getting top 4
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way too early to make such bold statements
posted on 13/11/23
comment by CFC: Quad stoppers (U20729)
posted 1 hour, 8 minutes ago
comment by He who Dares, waits for Trophies (U15748)
posted 1 hour, 16 minutes ago
Nothing to with bookies not fancying us, is just those unemployed neighbours have a lot of free time to put bets using their benefit thus shortening their odd. Partly this I am sure.
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Fair enough. But lads, it's Spurs
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Yeah, Utd said the same and turned up at the Spurs ground and got sent back with 2-0 defeat
Don't forget that 6-2 thrashing Spurs inflicted to Utd at OT under JM, their ex-manager....Oh how sweet that was
posted on 13/11/23
typed 6-2, meant to type 6-1
posted on 13/11/23
City
Liverpool
Arse
Utd
posted on 13/11/23
comment by He who Dares, waits for Trophies (U15748)
posted 1 hour, 30 minutes ago
comment by Dirty Pranchez (U22336)
posted 2 hours, 3 minutes ago
Chelsea ain’t getting top 4
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way too early to make such bold statements
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From the geezer who declared poor old Jimmy brown bread years ago
posted on 13/11/23
But to confirm Chelsea won’t get top 4 this season
A season at least too early for them.
Top 4 will be as it is right now.
posted on 13/11/23
comment by Dirty Pranchez (U22336)
posted 16 minutes ago
But to confirm Chelsea won’t get top 4 this season
A season at least too early for them.
Top 4 will be as it is right now.
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Too early Newcastle and United should improve
posted on 14/11/23
The whole thing hinges on Spurs getting players back - if Maddison and Micky are back early new year then we’re a shoe in for 4th - our first team we’re blowing teams away first 10 games.
Otherwise Levy has faaacked us with a paper thin squad
posted on 14/11/23
comment by Striketeam7 - There used to be a football club over there (U18109)
posted 2 hours, 12 minutes ago
The whole thing hinges on Spurs getting players back - if Maddison and Micky are back early new year then we’re a shoe in for 4th - our first team we’re blowing teams away first 10 games.
Otherwise Levy has faaacked us with a paper thin squad
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Even with them back spurs aren't a shoe in at all.
Son needs to keep firing and Maddison can't have a dip in form, which he will as he has never played at the level he was for a whole season.
Romero is a walking red card and spurs have had more luck than I've ever seen a team have before, until karma hit in one game 😂
Spurs were at their limits and plenty of teams with stronger squads are yet to reach theirs. Top 6 would be success for spurs in my opinion, especially as the boss has shown he can be very limited in his approach and resistant to change.
posted on 14/11/23
comment by FootyMcfootfoot (U21853)
posted 1 hour, 35 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - There used to be a football club over there (U18109)
posted 2 hours, 12 minutes ago
The whole thing hinges on Spurs getting players back - if Maddison and Micky are back early new year then we’re a shoe in for 4th - our first team we’re blowing teams away first 10 games.
Otherwise Levy has faaacked us with a paper thin squad
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Even with them back spurs aren't a shoe in at all.
Son needs to keep firing and Maddison can't have a dip in form, which he will as he has never played at the level he was for a whole season.
Romero is a walking red card and spurs have had more luck than I've ever seen a team have before, until karma hit in one game 😂
Spurs were at their limits and plenty of teams with stronger squads are yet to reach theirs. Top 6 would be success for spurs in my opinion, especially as the boss has shown he can be very limited in his approach and resistant to change.
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Nah we walk it with a fully fit squad, Ange had us playing the best ball in the Prem
posted on 14/11/23
comment by Striketeam7 - There used to be a football club over there (U18109)
posted 1 hour, 15 minutes ago
comment by FootyMcfootfoot (U21853)
posted 1 hour, 35 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - There used to be a football club over there (U18109)
posted 2 hours, 12 minutes ago
The whole thing hinges on Spurs getting players back - if Maddison and Micky are back early new year then we’re a shoe in for 4th - our first team we’re blowing teams away first 10 games.
Otherwise Levy has faaacked us with a paper thin squad
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Even with them back spurs aren't a shoe in at all.
Son needs to keep firing and Maddison can't have a dip in form, which he will as he has never played at the level he was for a whole season.
Romero is a walking red card and spurs have had more luck than I've ever seen a team have before, until karma hit in one game 😂
Spurs were at their limits and plenty of teams with stronger squads are yet to reach theirs. Top 6 would be success for spurs in my opinion, especially as the boss has shown he can be very limited in his approach and resistant to change.
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Nah we walk it with a fully fit squad, Ange had us playing the best ball in the Prem
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Even with a fully fit squad you'd get torn a new one by several teams with how he sets up. Two CBs have a red card or an error in them. Good form is short term.
I'd expect a fully fit Newcastle/Brighton team to smash spurs tbh. Footballs good to watch but not trophy winning if a coach doesn't have a plan B or C.
posted on 14/11/23
comment by FootyMcfootfoot (U21853)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - There used to be a football club over there (U18109)
posted 1 hour, 15 minutes ago
comment by FootyMcfootfoot (U21853)
posted 1 hour, 35 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - There used to be a football club over there (U18109)
posted 2 hours, 12 minutes ago
The whole thing hinges on Spurs getting players back - if Maddison and Micky are back early new year then we’re a shoe in for 4th - our first team we’re blowing teams away first 10 games.
Otherwise Levy has faaacked us with a paper thin squad
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Even with them back spurs aren't a shoe in at all.
Son needs to keep firing and Maddison can't have a dip in form, which he will as he has never played at the level he was for a whole season.
Romero is a walking red card and spurs have had more luck than I've ever seen a team have before, until karma hit in one game 😂
Spurs were at their limits and plenty of teams with stronger squads are yet to reach theirs. Top 6 would be success for spurs in my opinion, especially as the boss has shown he can be very limited in his approach and resistant to change.
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Nah we walk it with a fully fit squad, Ange had us playing the best ball in the Prem
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Even with a fully fit squad you'd get torn a new one by several teams with how he sets up. Two CBs have a red card or an error in them. Good form is short term.
I'd expect a fully fit Newcastle/Brighton team to smash spurs tbh. Footballs good to watch but not trophy winning if a coach doesn't have a plan B or C.
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We were legit title challengers before the injuries and suspensions, comfortable wins over Liverpool and United, unlucky to only get a point at Arsenal.
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