comment by Cinciwolf----Old Trafford record attendance.....WOLVES V GRIMSBY. .......lolz (U11551)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Mamba - Come at the King, you best not miss (U1282)
posted 4 hours, 55 minutes ago
comment by Cinciwolf----Old Trafford record attendance.....WOLVES V GRIMSBY. .......lolz (U11551)
posted 1 hour, 6 minutes ago
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 19 minutes ago
Yep, mass sterilization would work.
Wipe out humanity and Global Warming would reverse and there would be no more wars.
Genius.
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Sounds extreme. But absolutely zero doubt a slow down in reproduction would have a MASSIVE impact on the worlds health.
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Reproduction is slowing down. Do some research before trying to sound clever.
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Needs to slow down more be ll end. Surely you are not arguing that a growing population is good for the planet ffs.
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If that's what I was arguing then that's what I would have said.
The problem is population is used as a distraction when, for instance, you could take out all of Africa's carbon output and the world would still be in trouble. Would buy us some time perhaps, at best. Take out Europe's output on the other hand and the global warming problem is just about solved.
comment by Mamba - Come at the King, you best not miss (U1282)
posted 6 minutes ago
For instance, one person in Europe pollutes as much as 7 people in Africa. So it's about consumption, ni necessarily the number of people.
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So we starve the Europeans to feed other populations, or we bring the other populations up to western levels?
Your line of thought is reminiscent of the lies we were told in the 90s about giving the industrial base of the west to China.
I'd say most working class people in the west have seen a decline in their real incomes over the last 30 due to that and it will only get worse.
comment by Cinciwolf----Old Trafford record attendance.....WOLVES V GRIMSBY. .......lolz (U11551)
posted 7 minutes ago
The western world need to be sterilized as a priority.
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Would be a big mistake. As it is, low global population is gonna start being a problem within 50-70 years or so. Doing that now would cause too drastic a drop which would fack us in the ass.
comment by son of quebec (U8127)
posted 47 seconds ago
comment by Mamba - Come at the King, you best not miss (U1282)
posted 6 minutes ago
For instance, one person in Europe pollutes as much as 7 people in Africa. So it's about consumption, ni necessarily the number of people.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So we starve the Europeans to feed other populations, or we bring the other populations up to western levels?
Your line of thought is reminiscent of the lies we were told in the 90s about giving the industrial base of the west to China.
I'd say most working class people in the west have seen a decline in their real incomes over the last 30 due to that and it will only get worse.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
We're talking about global warming?
We need to find ways to reduce our output and ways to develop sustainably, and there is more capacity to do that in China, USA, Europe than anywhere else, because of the facts I pointed out above.
comment by Mamba - Come at the King, you best not miss (U1282)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Cinciwolf----Old Trafford record attendance.....WOLVES V GRIMSBY. .......lolz (U11551)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Mamba - Come at the King, you best not miss (U1282)
posted 4 hours, 55 minutes ago
comment by Cinciwolf----Old Trafford record attendance.....WOLVES V GRIMSBY. .......lolz (U11551)
posted 1 hour, 6 minutes ago
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 19 minutes ago
Yep, mass sterilization would work.
Wipe out humanity and Global Warming would reverse and there would be no more wars.
Genius.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Sounds extreme. But absolutely zero doubt a slow down in reproduction would have a MASSIVE impact on the worlds health.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Reproduction is slowing down. Do some research before trying to sound clever.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Needs to slow down more be ll end. Surely you are not arguing that a growing population is good for the planet ffs.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
If that's what I was arguing then that's what I would have said.
The problem is population is used as a distraction when, for instance, you could take out all of Africa's carbon output and the world would still be in trouble. Would buy us some time perhaps, at best. Take out Europe's output on the other hand and the global warming problem is just about solved.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
North and South America, China, India? Yeah okay.
And as far as feeding this population more consumers means more strain on the means of production.
Also need to find ways for the rest of the world to develop sustainably, without damaging the planet as much as we have while developing. We need to provide or support options and alternatives, otherwise to them global warming might look like a conspiracy to stop them following in our footsteps.
comment by son of quebec (U8127)
posted 38 seconds ago
comment by Mamba - Come at the King, you best not miss (U1282)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Cinciwolf----Old Trafford record attendance.....WOLVES V GRIMSBY. .......lolz (U11551)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Mamba - Come at the King, you best not miss (U1282)
posted 4 hours, 55 minutes ago
comment by Cinciwolf----Old Trafford record attendance.....WOLVES V GRIMSBY. .......lolz (U11551)
posted 1 hour, 6 minutes ago
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 19 minutes ago
Yep, mass sterilization would work.
Wipe out humanity and Global Warming would reverse and there would be no more wars.
Genius.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Sounds extreme. But absolutely zero doubt a slow down in reproduction would have a MASSIVE impact on the worlds health.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Reproduction is slowing down. Do some research before trying to sound clever.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Needs to slow down more be ll end. Surely you are not arguing that a growing population is good for the planet ffs.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
If that's what I was arguing then that's what I would have said.
The problem is population is used as a distraction when, for instance, you could take out all of Africa's carbon output and the world would still be in trouble. Would buy us some time perhaps, at best. Take out Europe's output on the other hand and the global warming problem is just about solved.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
North and South America, China, India? Yeah okay.
And as far as feeding this population more consumers means more strain on the means of production.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The facts I provided have already accounted for that. It takes 7 times as much of anything to feed a guy in Europe as it takes to feed a guy in Africa. This means that 1 guy in Europe is equivalent to 7 guys in Africa, so if you want to talk about population and global warming then that means it's Europe, China, USA, UK etc that's overpopulated.
Perhaps this might help you understand
https://amp.theguardian.com/environment/2020/jan/05/britain-annual-carbon-emissions-overtake-africa-two-weeks-oxfam
comment by Mamba - Come at the King, you best not miss (U1282)
posted 1 minute ago
Also need to find ways for the rest of the world to develop sustainably, without damaging the planet as much as we have while developing. We need to provide or support options and alternatives, otherwise to them global warming might look like a conspiracy to stop them following in our footsteps.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Ah yes. The Technology Fairy. When will this Fairy come and save us? Satty talks about this a lot. still waiting on any country meeting their carbon boolsheet promises from any of the massively polluting conferences attended by our leaders.
comment by son of quebec (U8127)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Mamba - Come at the King, you best not miss (U1282)
posted 1 minute ago
Also need to find ways for the rest of the world to develop sustainably, without damaging the planet as much as we have while developing. We need to provide or support options and alternatives, otherwise to them global warming might look like a conspiracy to stop them following in our footsteps.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Ah yes. The Technology Fairy. When will this Fairy come and save us? Satty talks about this a lot. still waiting on any country meeting their carbon boolsheet promises from any of the massively polluting conferences attended by our leaders.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yeah, agreed actually. I didn't say we are doing a good job of it.
comment by Mamba - Come at the King, you best not miss (U1282)
posted 2 hours, 40 minutes ago
comment by son of quebec (U8127)
posted 1 hour, 38 minutes ago
comment by Mamba - Come at the King, you best not miss (U1282)
posted 16 hours, 3 minutes ago
comment by -bloodred- (U1222)
posted 36 minutes ago
Their is not one government in the World has said Global warming is down to the world having too many people.
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Why would they?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Exactly. Anyone still bringing up population numbers confirms for sure that they do not understand global warming.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So feeding ,heating, cooling, transporting,etc 10 billion
people consumes the same amount of resources as 5 billion, and produce the same amount of waste as 5 billion?
To quote another great poster:"Genius."
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It's not about population, it's about consumption.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Consumption is a consequence of population, though. You can’t just disregard it.
Religious nonsense is slowly infecting the western world anyway so we'll all be living back in the stone age soon enough.
Yeah, the Western world had never been religious before.
Yer
Itsa new thing in the west
comment by Kobbie The King Mainoo (U10026)
posted 16 minutes ago
Yeah, the Western world had never been religious before.
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Well of course it's been religious before, but I'd like to think that we were getting away from all those ramblings written by desert savages. But no, now all of us have got to put with the backwards nonsense that comes out of the middle east.
comment by Kobbie The King Mainoo (U10026)
posted 10 hours, 55 minutes ago
comment by Mamba - Come at the King, you best not miss (U1282)
posted 2 hours, 40 minutes ago
comment by son of quebec (U8127)
posted 1 hour, 38 minutes ago
comment by Mamba - Come at the King, you best not miss (U1282)
posted 16 hours, 3 minutes ago
comment by -bloodred- (U1222)
posted 36 minutes ago
Their is not one government in the World has said Global warming is down to the world having too many people.
---------
Why would they?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Exactly. Anyone still bringing up population numbers confirms for sure that they do not understand global warming.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So feeding ,heating, cooling, transporting,etc 10 billion
people consumes the same amount of resources as 5 billion, and produce the same amount of waste as 5 billion?
To quote another great poster:"Genius."
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It's not about population, it's about consumption.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Consumption is a consequence of population, though. You can’t just disregard it.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Reducing numbers in some places would have multiple times more benefits than in other places. Obviously consumption takes precedence.
Approaching the global warming problem by looking at the population numbers across the world is terribly deceptive as to where the solutions lie IMO.
For instance, you theoretically shut down the UK alone for 3 weeks, then you make as much progress as shutting down all of Africa for a year? That tells you something.
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posted on 18/11/23
comment by Cinciwolf----Old Trafford record attendance.....WOLVES V GRIMSBY. .......lolz (U11551)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Mamba - Come at the King, you best not miss (U1282)
posted 4 hours, 55 minutes ago
comment by Cinciwolf----Old Trafford record attendance.....WOLVES V GRIMSBY. .......lolz (U11551)
posted 1 hour, 6 minutes ago
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 19 minutes ago
Yep, mass sterilization would work.
Wipe out humanity and Global Warming would reverse and there would be no more wars.
Genius.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Sounds extreme. But absolutely zero doubt a slow down in reproduction would have a MASSIVE impact on the worlds health.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Reproduction is slowing down. Do some research before trying to sound clever.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Needs to slow down more be ll end. Surely you are not arguing that a growing population is good for the planet ffs.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
If that's what I was arguing then that's what I would have said.
The problem is population is used as a distraction when, for instance, you could take out all of Africa's carbon output and the world would still be in trouble. Would buy us some time perhaps, at best. Take out Europe's output on the other hand and the global warming problem is just about solved.
posted on 18/11/23
comment by Mamba - Come at the King, you best not miss (U1282)
posted 6 minutes ago
For instance, one person in Europe pollutes as much as 7 people in Africa. So it's about consumption, ni necessarily the number of people.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So we starve the Europeans to feed other populations, or we bring the other populations up to western levels?
Your line of thought is reminiscent of the lies we were told in the 90s about giving the industrial base of the west to China.
I'd say most working class people in the west have seen a decline in their real incomes over the last 30 due to that and it will only get worse.
posted on 18/11/23
comment by Cinciwolf----Old Trafford record attendance.....WOLVES V GRIMSBY. .......lolz (U11551)
posted 7 minutes ago
The western world need to be sterilized as a priority.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Would be a big mistake. As it is, low global population is gonna start being a problem within 50-70 years or so. Doing that now would cause too drastic a drop which would fack us in the ass.
posted on 18/11/23
comment by son of quebec (U8127)
posted 47 seconds ago
comment by Mamba - Come at the King, you best not miss (U1282)
posted 6 minutes ago
For instance, one person in Europe pollutes as much as 7 people in Africa. So it's about consumption, ni necessarily the number of people.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So we starve the Europeans to feed other populations, or we bring the other populations up to western levels?
Your line of thought is reminiscent of the lies we were told in the 90s about giving the industrial base of the west to China.
I'd say most working class people in the west have seen a decline in their real incomes over the last 30 due to that and it will only get worse.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
We're talking about global warming?
We need to find ways to reduce our output and ways to develop sustainably, and there is more capacity to do that in China, USA, Europe than anywhere else, because of the facts I pointed out above.
posted on 18/11/23
comment by Mamba - Come at the King, you best not miss (U1282)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Cinciwolf----Old Trafford record attendance.....WOLVES V GRIMSBY. .......lolz (U11551)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Mamba - Come at the King, you best not miss (U1282)
posted 4 hours, 55 minutes ago
comment by Cinciwolf----Old Trafford record attendance.....WOLVES V GRIMSBY. .......lolz (U11551)
posted 1 hour, 6 minutes ago
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 19 minutes ago
Yep, mass sterilization would work.
Wipe out humanity and Global Warming would reverse and there would be no more wars.
Genius.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Sounds extreme. But absolutely zero doubt a slow down in reproduction would have a MASSIVE impact on the worlds health.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Reproduction is slowing down. Do some research before trying to sound clever.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Needs to slow down more be ll end. Surely you are not arguing that a growing population is good for the planet ffs.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
If that's what I was arguing then that's what I would have said.
The problem is population is used as a distraction when, for instance, you could take out all of Africa's carbon output and the world would still be in trouble. Would buy us some time perhaps, at best. Take out Europe's output on the other hand and the global warming problem is just about solved.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
North and South America, China, India? Yeah okay.
And as far as feeding this population more consumers means more strain on the means of production.
posted on 18/11/23
Also need to find ways for the rest of the world to develop sustainably, without damaging the planet as much as we have while developing. We need to provide or support options and alternatives, otherwise to them global warming might look like a conspiracy to stop them following in our footsteps.
posted on 18/11/23
comment by son of quebec (U8127)
posted 38 seconds ago
comment by Mamba - Come at the King, you best not miss (U1282)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Cinciwolf----Old Trafford record attendance.....WOLVES V GRIMSBY. .......lolz (U11551)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Mamba - Come at the King, you best not miss (U1282)
posted 4 hours, 55 minutes ago
comment by Cinciwolf----Old Trafford record attendance.....WOLVES V GRIMSBY. .......lolz (U11551)
posted 1 hour, 6 minutes ago
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 19 minutes ago
Yep, mass sterilization would work.
Wipe out humanity and Global Warming would reverse and there would be no more wars.
Genius.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Sounds extreme. But absolutely zero doubt a slow down in reproduction would have a MASSIVE impact on the worlds health.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Reproduction is slowing down. Do some research before trying to sound clever.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Needs to slow down more be ll end. Surely you are not arguing that a growing population is good for the planet ffs.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
If that's what I was arguing then that's what I would have said.
The problem is population is used as a distraction when, for instance, you could take out all of Africa's carbon output and the world would still be in trouble. Would buy us some time perhaps, at best. Take out Europe's output on the other hand and the global warming problem is just about solved.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
North and South America, China, India? Yeah okay.
And as far as feeding this population more consumers means more strain on the means of production.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The facts I provided have already accounted for that. It takes 7 times as much of anything to feed a guy in Europe as it takes to feed a guy in Africa. This means that 1 guy in Europe is equivalent to 7 guys in Africa, so if you want to talk about population and global warming then that means it's Europe, China, USA, UK etc that's overpopulated.
Perhaps this might help you understand
https://amp.theguardian.com/environment/2020/jan/05/britain-annual-carbon-emissions-overtake-africa-two-weeks-oxfam
posted on 18/11/23
comment by Mamba - Come at the King, you best not miss (U1282)
posted 1 minute ago
Also need to find ways for the rest of the world to develop sustainably, without damaging the planet as much as we have while developing. We need to provide or support options and alternatives, otherwise to them global warming might look like a conspiracy to stop them following in our footsteps.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Ah yes. The Technology Fairy. When will this Fairy come and save us? Satty talks about this a lot. still waiting on any country meeting their carbon boolsheet promises from any of the massively polluting conferences attended by our leaders.
posted on 18/11/23
comment by son of quebec (U8127)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Mamba - Come at the King, you best not miss (U1282)
posted 1 minute ago
Also need to find ways for the rest of the world to develop sustainably, without damaging the planet as much as we have while developing. We need to provide or support options and alternatives, otherwise to them global warming might look like a conspiracy to stop them following in our footsteps.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Ah yes. The Technology Fairy. When will this Fairy come and save us? Satty talks about this a lot. still waiting on any country meeting their carbon boolsheet promises from any of the massively polluting conferences attended by our leaders.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yeah, agreed actually. I didn't say we are doing a good job of it.
posted on 18/11/23
comment by Mamba - Come at the King, you best not miss (U1282)
posted 2 hours, 40 minutes ago
comment by son of quebec (U8127)
posted 1 hour, 38 minutes ago
comment by Mamba - Come at the King, you best not miss (U1282)
posted 16 hours, 3 minutes ago
comment by -bloodred- (U1222)
posted 36 minutes ago
Their is not one government in the World has said Global warming is down to the world having too many people.
---------
Why would they?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Exactly. Anyone still bringing up population numbers confirms for sure that they do not understand global warming.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So feeding ,heating, cooling, transporting,etc 10 billion
people consumes the same amount of resources as 5 billion, and produce the same amount of waste as 5 billion?
To quote another great poster:"Genius."
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It's not about population, it's about consumption.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Consumption is a consequence of population, though. You can’t just disregard it.
posted on 19/11/23
Religious nonsense is slowly infecting the western world anyway so we'll all be living back in the stone age soon enough.
posted on 19/11/23
Yeah, the Western world had never been religious before.
posted on 19/11/23
Yer
Itsa new thing in the west
posted on 19/11/23
comment by Kobbie The King Mainoo (U10026)
posted 16 minutes ago
Yeah, the Western world had never been religious before.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Well of course it's been religious before, but I'd like to think that we were getting away from all those ramblings written by desert savages. But no, now all of us have got to put with the backwards nonsense that comes out of the middle east.
posted on 19/11/23
comment by Kobbie The King Mainoo (U10026)
posted 10 hours, 55 minutes ago
comment by Mamba - Come at the King, you best not miss (U1282)
posted 2 hours, 40 minutes ago
comment by son of quebec (U8127)
posted 1 hour, 38 minutes ago
comment by Mamba - Come at the King, you best not miss (U1282)
posted 16 hours, 3 minutes ago
comment by -bloodred- (U1222)
posted 36 minutes ago
Their is not one government in the World has said Global warming is down to the world having too many people.
---------
Why would they?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Exactly. Anyone still bringing up population numbers confirms for sure that they do not understand global warming.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So feeding ,heating, cooling, transporting,etc 10 billion
people consumes the same amount of resources as 5 billion, and produce the same amount of waste as 5 billion?
To quote another great poster:"Genius."
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It's not about population, it's about consumption.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Consumption is a consequence of population, though. You can’t just disregard it.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Reducing numbers in some places would have multiple times more benefits than in other places. Obviously consumption takes precedence.
Approaching the global warming problem by looking at the population numbers across the world is terribly deceptive as to where the solutions lie IMO.
For instance, you theoretically shut down the UK alone for 3 weeks, then you make as much progress as shutting down all of Africa for a year? That tells you something.
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