I don’t think you should be stripped of any titles but 10 points deduction seems fair

comment by Pride of the North (U6803)
posted 9 seconds ago
I don’t think you should be stripped of any titles but 10 points deduction seems fair
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No one is taking our Peace Cup away from us.

Football will never be totally clean , but harsh if spurs get points deduction for something that happened years ago tbf

I’ve said on the other thread - what investigation are the FA actually doing? The FA have known about this for 15 years and basically gave us a slap on the wrist at the time whilst deducting points from Luton for the exact same thing, which ultimately saw them spiral out of the football league.

There shouldn’t be an investigation on Spurs 15 years later, there should be an investigation on why the FA treated the 2 cases completely differently at the time - that’s the real issue here. We all know why, Levy would have fought tooth and nail and it would have cost the FA a fortune, whereas Luton were poor and couldn’t fight like we could - that’s what it boils down to. City = rich, Everton = pizz poor

It’s FA incompetence and lack of process and procedure, nothing to do with Spurs. Levy will hang them by the bollox if they try it - would love to hear their explanation for punishing us 15 years after they knew the facts and had already decided not to proceed

The FA are pulling over speeding drivers when there are 2 serial killers running freely on the loose

comment by Vladimikel Artutin - committing war crimes against football since 2019 (U18355)
posted 10 minutes ago
The FA are pulling over speeding drivers when there are 2 serial killers running freely on the loose
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They are just plain useless and unfit for purpose.

The Premier league is too big and too powerful for them to regulate effectively - they haven’t a clue which is why clubs get away with murder.

This won’t be the end of it, there will be countless examples of small discrepancies from multiple clubs - meanwhile City have 115 serious charges that are seemingly going nowhere.

comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 1 hour, 16 minutes ago
comment by Pride of the North (U6803)
posted 9 seconds ago
I don’t think you should be stripped of any titles but 10 points deduction seems fair
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No one is taking our Peace Cup away from us.
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We are keeping the AUDI cup...fk off

comment by Vladimikel Artutin - committing war crimes against football since 2019 (U18355)
posted 1 hour, 5 minutes ago
The FA are pulling over speeding drivers when there are 2 serial killers running freely on the loose
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Yes, they are following the examples of the MET Police

FFP didn't start till the 2001-12 season but the transfer in question took place 15 years back. i don't think it would be a point deduction but a hefty fine and possible jail sentence for all third parties involved in the deal, the FA have been after Arry for years , as he's always been an Arthur Daily type character and i can hardly see Levy being Terry McCann.

comment by Edward Elizabeth Hitler. (U14393)
posted 10 minutes ago
FFP didn't start till the 2001-12 season but the transfer in question took place 15 years back. i don't think it would be a point deduction but a hefty fine and possible jail sentence for all third parties involved in the deal, the FA have been after Arry for years , as he's always been an Arthur Daily type character and i can hardly see Levy being Terry McCann.
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You are misunderstanding Eddie, we didn’t break a FFP rule. We broke a rule in place at the time that meant we couldn’t use an unlicensed agent on a transfer - which we did on the Defoe transfer.

The stupid thing is, we admitted all of this to the FA 15 years ago who decided not to proceed at that point - so god knows why it is suddenly an issue.

It should be the FA investigated for treating Tottenham and Luton differently, not Spurs investigated for something we disclosed over a decade ago and were told off about

comment by Striketeam7 - There used to be a football club over there (U18109)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Edward Elizabeth Hitler. (U14393)
posted 10 minutes ago
FFP didn't start till the 2001-12 season but the transfer in question took place 15 years back. i don't think it would be a point deduction but a hefty fine and possible jail sentence for all third parties involved in the deal, the FA have been after Arry for years , as he's always been an Arthur Daily type character and i can hardly see Levy being Terry McCann.
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You are misunderstanding Eddie, we didn’t break a FFP rule. We broke a rule in place at the time that meant we couldn’t use an unlicensed agent on a transfer - which we did on the Defoe transfer.

The stupid thing is, we admitted all of this to the FA 15 years ago who decided not to proceed at that point - so god knows why it is suddenly an issue.

It should be the FA investigated for treating Tottenham and Luton differently, not Spurs investigated for something we disclosed over a decade ago and were told off about
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My bad , in that case a hefty fine would be sufficient.

comment by Edward Elizabeth Hitler. (U14393)
posted 39 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - There used to be a football club over there (U18109)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Edward Elizabeth Hitler. (U14393)
posted 10 minutes ago
FFP didn't start till the 2001-12 season but the transfer in question took place 15 years back. i don't think it would be a point deduction but a hefty fine and possible jail sentence for all third parties involved in the deal, the FA have been after Arry for years , as he's always been an Arthur Daily type character and i can hardly see Levy being Terry McCann.
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You are misunderstanding Eddie, we didn’t break a FFP rule. We broke a rule in place at the time that meant we couldn’t use an unlicensed agent on a transfer - which we did on the Defoe transfer.

The stupid thing is, we admitted all of this to the FA 15 years ago who decided not to proceed at that point - so god knows why it is suddenly an issue.

It should be the FA investigated for treating Tottenham and Luton differently, not Spurs investigated for something we disclosed over a decade ago and were told off about
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My bad , in that case a hefty fine would be sufficient.
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Only if the fine was for the FA and paid to Luton, otherwise they can faaaack off, they’ve known about this for 15 years and chose to do nothing about it whilst punishing Luton severely.

If we’re looking at the dim and distant past then Spurs should complain about the Gooners bribing their way into the league at our expense back in 1919 - the whole thing is ridiculous

So thats currently City, Chelsea, Spurs under investigation, with Everton already docked 10 points for a relatively minor offence.

Probably more teams finding themselves in the dock as the season goes on and looking at points deductions.

By the end of April we could be looking at a title shootout between Sheffield United and Burnley...

Non-story.

comment by Gilbert Napthine (U15867)
posted 1 minute ago
So thats currently City, Chelsea, Spurs under investigation, with Everton already docked 10 points for a relatively minor offence.

Probably more teams finding themselves in the dock as the season goes on and looking at points deductions.

By the end of April we could be looking at a title shootout between Sheffield United and Burnley...
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Spurs aren’t under investigation - the FA are reviewing. Basically they are VARing 15 years after the fact, there’s no investigation as we’ve admitted to it at the time - so I assume the FA are reviewing why they came to the decision that they did the faaaacking morons

comment by Striketeam7 - There used to be a football club over there (U18109)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Gilbert Napthine (U15867)
posted 1 minute ago
So thats currently City, Chelsea, Spurs under investigation, with Everton already docked 10 points for a relatively minor offence.

Probably more teams finding themselves in the dock as the season goes on and looking at points deductions.

By the end of April we could be looking at a title shootout between Sheffield United and Burnley...
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Spurs aren’t under investigation - the FA are reviewing. Basically they are VARing 15 years after the fact, there’s no investigation as we’ve admitted to it at the time - so I assume the FA are reviewing why they came to the decision that they did the faaaacking morons
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yeah, tongue in cheek comment...

Apparently, the Spurs thing happened in the same season Luton and another team did the same thing. Luton and the other team I can't remember got docked points whilst the FA didn't act against Spurs whilst having all the info right in front of them. This is on the FA really.

comment by Gilbert Napthine (U15867)
posted 44 seconds ago
comment by Striketeam7 - There used to be a football club over there (U18109)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Gilbert Napthine (U15867)
posted 1 minute ago
So thats currently City, Chelsea, Spurs under investigation, with Everton already docked 10 points for a relatively minor offence.

Probably more teams finding themselves in the dock as the season goes on and looking at points deductions.

By the end of April we could be looking at a title shootout between Sheffield United and Burnley...
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Spurs aren’t under investigation - the FA are reviewing. Basically they are VARing 15 years after the fact, there’s no investigation as we’ve admitted to it at the time - so I assume the FA are reviewing why they came to the decision that they did the faaaacking morons
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yeah, tongue in cheek comment...

Apparently, the Spurs thing happened in the same season Luton and another team did the same thing. Luton and the other team I can't remember got docked points whilst the FA didn't act against Spurs whilst having all the info right in front of them. This is on the FA really.
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Exactly, Luton should be all over the FA for that and getting serious compensation as the knock on effect was they dropped out of the football league with successive demotions.

The PL is too big for the FA to handle, it’s been outgrown and hasn’t moved with the times. All they are doing is picking on the poorer clubs whilst letting the richer get away with it - hence why we didn’t get punished but a Luton did and why potless Everton have had points deducted and nowts happening to City

I agree with Sandy. This is a weird feeling

First of all, there's this about ManCity......

The frequently maligned Financial Fair Play (FFP) has again found itself hogging the limelight, following Manchester City’s multiple breaches of Premier League financial rules after a four-year investigation. According to the Premier League, Man City did not adhere to the directives between the 2009-10 and 2017-18 seasons.

"In accordance with Premier League Rule W.82.1, the Premier League confirms that it has today referred a number of alleged breaches of the Premier League Rules by Manchester City Football Club (Club) to a Commission under Premier League Rule W.3.4.," a release from the Premier League stated.

The club responded to the statement, saying they are surprised by the issue of the alleged breaches. The six-time champions confirmed they look forward to putting the matter to rest.

Manchester City were first charged by UEFA for breaching FFP rules in March 2019, which prompted the Premier League to launch its own investigation. However, in July 2020, the Citizens had a two-year suspension from UEFA club competitions overturned by the Court of Arbitration for Sport (CAS).
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And then there's this about FFP....

Earlier this year, UEFA President Aleksander Ceferin confirmed that plans are in place to abolish the Financial Fair Play regulations and replace them with a salary cap and luxury tax.

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So go have fun figuring out what's going on!!
I have not the patience to find out what rules W.82.1 and W.3.4 actually say!

Has Everton gone to the court of arbitration?

Those who have questions about FFp could well get their education on this topic at
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UEFA_Financial_Fair_Play_Regulations

frankly its so complicated by sponsorships, benefactors etc. etc,. that I just gave up!!

As for Spurs being "under investigation" ...Levy should hire Donald Trump for some lessons on delaying tactics!
FFP will go away sometime soon.

Whilst I agree any transgressions should be punished, I also think that there should be a state of limitations on any potential action being taken against clubs.
Clubs could have changed hands in time and is it fair to punish new owners for someone else’s actions?
Also if there has already been an independent review of what happened with Defoe’s transfer to Portsmouth and findings were passed to the FA who decided no action was needed, how can they go back on that decision.

They have apparently said they might not have had all the relevant information to make an informed decision. Surely that shows a shortcoming in their processes which show not impact on any future decisions.
If you are in a court of law and are cleared, but later on other evidence shows you might be guilty there is very little chance you would be retried unless it involved murder or something equally serious.

I am not excusing Spurs or Portsmouth regarding this improper behaviour, however in mitigation we should be looking at how incompetent the FA are surely?

As for Harry, like Venables, Clough & Graham he operated in very grey areas when it came to finances and dealings with transfers, so it does not come as any surprise that he is involved🤔

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