comment by ifarka, (B-C- out) (U8182)
posted 2 hours, 18 minutes ago
Err i think you will find doing the double does not equate to elite status.
Elite status requires the club to be an established successful force in in its own league & in Europe
Which i think it can very confidently stated Spurs do not fit into that category
Domestic dominance is just that , nothing more, nothing exceptional in word footballing terms.
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Established in 10th place.
thank you Sandy, your insightful opinion is always refreshing
with a 12-15 point deduction on its way.
comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
posted 1 minute ago
Chelsea have never been an elite club. Yes they purchased some trophies with laundered Russian money. But for most of my lifetime, they have flitted between the top division and the 2nd division.
Two biggest clubs in London have, and always will be Spurs and Arsenal.
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More lemons please...Sandy isn't bitter enough
Arsenal have never won the CL or even the Euromick...can't be considered...you'll note I haven't even entertained $puds in this conversation
I think you know why
Chelsea are a club which for a brief moment in history, bought plenty of success through blood money of a war criminal sympathiser, and since then, it has also come to light that blood money wasn’t enough to build Chelsea’s success alone, they had to cheat along the way, too.
What about any of that screams elite football club?
Well ,that is quite a list of resentments.
Watch your blood pressure
Buying 4 PLs and 2 CLS with corrupt Russian money does not make you an elite club.
Good to see that no one outside of Chelsea fans take chelsea achievements seriously. Chelsea belong in that 'other group' with City PSG and NUFC
Corrupt Russian , money, seriously , are kidding yourself the Glaziers money is nice and clean
comment by ifarka, (B-C- out) (U8182)
posted 14 minutes ago
Corrupt Russian , money, seriously , are kidding yourself the Glaziers money is nice and clean
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Well it wasnt gained by stealing assets from the Russian people !
Oh, yes and of course our club wasn't built off the back of insider trading
comment by ifarka, (B-C- out) (U8182)
posted 17 minutes ago
Corrupt Russian , money, seriously , are kidding yourself the Glaziers money is nice and clean
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Corrupt Russian money, all used to make you smile. I'm glad Corrupt Russian Money makes you smile
I suggest you look in your own backyard
comment by ifarka, (B-C- out) (U8182)
posted 43 seconds ago
I suggest you look in your own backyard
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https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/feb/24/roman-abramovich-linked-to-russian-state-and-corrupt-activity-mp-says
This part of the link below stands out:
"The same document states that Abramovich’s company was not identified with countries with “significant levels of corruption,” despite Abramovich reportedly admitting in court he made corrupt payments to allow for the rigged purchase of an oil conglomerate in post-Communist Russia, which made him a fortune."
https://www.occrp.org/en/investigations/credit-suisse-banked-abramovich-fortune-held-in-secret-offshore-companies
So yes, it very much looks like Chelsea won some trophies through all of this muck
Been 6 years now Chelsea haven't even come close to challenging for the league or even finishing above Liverpool in the league. During that time Liverpool have won everything there is to win.
Chelsea had their 15 minutes if fame. It's over now.
Err. i think Liverpool have had one outstanding season in 30 years matey.
I think you will find coming 2nd is not an achievement.
Cfc did win the C/L in 2021 & the world club cup, which i do think is relevant
House, i am not in denial, like i said look in your own backyard.
There are no elite clubs in London and never have been.
Shouldn't you be cashing your giro in ?
comment by ifarka, (B-C- out) (U8182)
posted 1 hour, 50 minutes ago
Oh, yes and of course our club wasn't built off the back of insider trading
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Our owner hasnt put a single penny into Spurs and the "insider trading" allegations was information he shared with associates/friends, not information he used for personal gain/to fund Spurs.
Apart from that, you're spot on
comment by Mamba - Come at the King, you best not miss (U1282)
posted 1 hour, 25 minutes ago
Been 6 years now Chelsea haven't even come close to challenging for the league or even finishing above Liverpool in the league. During that time Liverpool have won everything there is to win.
Chelsea had their 15 minutes if fame. It's over now.
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Chelsea still won more than LFC since Klopp arrived.
Devon , seriously
Come on now, dont let your Lilly white specs get the better of you.
Lewis has built his fortune on insider trading, pulling the rug on companies and letting the work force join the dole queue
comment by Vladimikel Artutin - committing war crimes aga... (U18355)
posted 3 hours, 31 minutes ago
Chelsea are a club which for a brief moment in history, bought plenty of success through blood money of a war criminal sympathiser, and since then, it has also come to light that blood money wasn’t enough to build Chelsea’s success alone, they had to cheat along the way, too.
What about any of that screams elite football club?
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You are clearly butthurt about it
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Can Cfc still be considered an
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posted on 28/11/23
comment by ifarka, (B-C- out) (U8182)
posted 2 hours, 18 minutes ago
Err i think you will find doing the double does not equate to elite status.
Elite status requires the club to be an established successful force in in its own league & in Europe
Which i think it can very confidently stated Spurs do not fit into that category
Domestic dominance is just that , nothing more, nothing exceptional in word footballing terms.
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Established in 10th place.
posted on 28/11/23
thank you Sandy, your insightful opinion is always refreshing
posted on 28/11/23
with a 12-15 point deduction on its way.
posted on 28/11/23
comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
posted 1 minute ago
Chelsea have never been an elite club. Yes they purchased some trophies with laundered Russian money. But for most of my lifetime, they have flitted between the top division and the 2nd division.
Two biggest clubs in London have, and always will be Spurs and Arsenal.
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More lemons please...Sandy isn't bitter enough
Arsenal have never won the CL or even the Euromick...can't be considered...you'll note I haven't even entertained $puds in this conversation
I think you know why
posted on 28/11/23
Chelsea are a club which for a brief moment in history, bought plenty of success through blood money of a war criminal sympathiser, and since then, it has also come to light that blood money wasn’t enough to build Chelsea’s success alone, they had to cheat along the way, too.
What about any of that screams elite football club?
posted on 28/11/23
Well ,that is quite a list of resentments.
Watch your blood pressure
posted on 28/11/23
Buying 4 PLs and 2 CLS with corrupt Russian money does not make you an elite club.
posted on 28/11/23
Very pious
posted on 28/11/23
Good to see that no one outside of Chelsea fans take chelsea achievements seriously. Chelsea belong in that 'other group' with City PSG and NUFC
posted on 28/11/23
Corrupt Russian , money, seriously , are kidding yourself the Glaziers money is nice and clean
posted on 28/11/23
comment by ifarka, (B-C- out) (U8182)
posted 14 minutes ago
Corrupt Russian , money, seriously , are kidding yourself the Glaziers money is nice and clean
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Well it wasnt gained by stealing assets from the Russian people !
posted on 28/11/23
Oh, yes and of course our club wasn't built off the back of insider trading
posted on 28/11/23
comment by ifarka, (B-C- out) (U8182)
posted 17 minutes ago
Corrupt Russian , money, seriously , are kidding yourself the Glaziers money is nice and clean
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Corrupt Russian money, all used to make you smile. I'm glad Corrupt Russian Money makes you smile
posted on 28/11/23
I suggest you look in your own backyard
posted on 28/11/23
comment by ifarka, (B-C- out) (U8182)
posted 43 seconds ago
I suggest you look in your own backyard
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https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/feb/24/roman-abramovich-linked-to-russian-state-and-corrupt-activity-mp-says
posted on 28/11/23
This part of the link below stands out:
"The same document states that Abramovich’s company was not identified with countries with “significant levels of corruption,” despite Abramovich reportedly admitting in court he made corrupt payments to allow for the rigged purchase of an oil conglomerate in post-Communist Russia, which made him a fortune."
https://www.occrp.org/en/investigations/credit-suisse-banked-abramovich-fortune-held-in-secret-offshore-companies
So yes, it very much looks like Chelsea won some trophies through all of this muck
posted on 28/11/23
Been 6 years now Chelsea haven't even come close to challenging for the league or even finishing above Liverpool in the league. During that time Liverpool have won everything there is to win.
Chelsea had their 15 minutes if fame. It's over now.
posted on 28/11/23
Err. i think Liverpool have had one outstanding season in 30 years matey.
I think you will find coming 2nd is not an achievement.
Cfc did win the C/L in 2021 & the world club cup, which i do think is relevant
House, i am not in denial, like i said look in your own backyard.
posted on 28/11/23
There are no elite clubs in London and never have been.
posted on 28/11/23
Shouldn't you be cashing your giro in ?
posted on 28/11/23
comment by ifarka, (B-C- out) (U8182)
posted 1 hour, 50 minutes ago
Oh, yes and of course our club wasn't built off the back of insider trading
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Our owner hasnt put a single penny into Spurs and the "insider trading" allegations was information he shared with associates/friends, not information he used for personal gain/to fund Spurs.
Apart from that, you're spot on
posted on 28/11/23
comment by Mamba - Come at the King, you best not miss (U1282)
posted 1 hour, 25 minutes ago
Been 6 years now Chelsea haven't even come close to challenging for the league or even finishing above Liverpool in the league. During that time Liverpool have won everything there is to win.
Chelsea had their 15 minutes if fame. It's over now.
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Chelsea still won more than LFC since Klopp arrived.
posted on 28/11/23
Devon , seriously
Come on now, dont let your Lilly white specs get the better of you.
Lewis has built his fortune on insider trading, pulling the rug on companies and letting the work force join the dole queue
posted on 28/11/23
comment by Vladimikel Artutin - committing war crimes aga... (U18355)
posted 3 hours, 31 minutes ago
Chelsea are a club which for a brief moment in history, bought plenty of success through blood money of a war criminal sympathiser, and since then, it has also come to light that blood money wasn’t enough to build Chelsea’s success alone, they had to cheat along the way, too.
What about any of that screams elite football club?
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You are clearly butthurt about it
posted on 28/11/23
ohhhh! oh dear!
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