It could just be both the players and manager are crap
ETH is a coward. He should just play the system, not the players, and drop the senior players for youth if they can't adapt. but like most managers that come to United, they get cold feet and give up on their philosophy because they are too afraid to lose their job and then do it in the end anyway. He said he wouldn't play the way he did at Ajax, despite that being exactly what he was brought in to do, and the fans want. Look at Klopp and Ange.
As Big Ange says:
The amount of time I hear managers saying 'I would like to play this way but I don't have the players...' I just think: 'Just so it mate!'
Grow some fecking balls Eric!
The loss of Martinez has been the biggest impact on our form this year imo. He is the fighter in our side and drags the others along with him. That can not be underestimated.
Look how we missed Cantona and then Keane in the SAF years……
comment by Garnacho cheese (U5318)
posted 1 hour, 31 minutes ago
ETH is a coward. He should just play the system, not the players, and drop the senior players for youth if they can't adapt. but like most managers that come to United, they get cold feet and give up on their philosophy because they are too afraid to lose their job and then do it in the end anyway. He said he wouldn't play the way he did at Ajax, despite that being exactly what he was brought in to do, and the fans want. Look at Klopp and Ange.
As Big Ange says:
The amount of time I hear managers saying 'I would like to play this way but I don't have the players...' I just think: 'Just so it mate!'
Grow some fecking balls Eric!
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This. I'm willing to sack every manager until one gets some balls. ETH either gets small balls or facking leave. I do not want Glazers, players, excuses. Its difficult but thats why it is important to get one that counts.
comment by bongopalin (U10119)
posted 1 hour ago
The loss of Martinez has been the biggest impact on our form this year imo. He is the fighter in our side and drags the others along with him. That can not be underestimated.
Look how we missed Cantona and then Keane in the SAF years……
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This after we lose to a team with one of the most disastrous injury records this season. We are now blaming it on Martinez now Shaw is back.
We also have had a disastrous injury situation, plus of course it depends on who is injured.
I'm not making excuses for the Newcastle game, we were poor pretty much all over the pitch, with Rashford the worst, but it was one game, away to a good team.
The Everton games was different. Are we going to want ETH praised when we win, castigated when we lose?
Injuries can affect every team.
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 3 minutes ago
We also have had a disastrous injury situation, plus of course it depends on who is injured.
I'm not making excuses for the Newcastle game, we were poor pretty much all over the pitch, with Rashford the worst, but it was one game, away to a good team.
The Everton games was different. Are we going to want ETH praised when we win, castigated when we lose?
Injuries can affect every team.
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Tell me about it...currently 9 with three suspended...the least we've had this season is about 6
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 1 hour ago
We also have had a disastrous injury situation, plus of course it depends on who is injured.
I'm not making excuses for the Newcastle game, we were poor pretty much all over the pitch, with Rashford the worst, but it was one game, away to a good team.
The Everton games was different. Are we going to want ETH praised when we win, castigated when we lose?
Injuries can affect every team.
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The result against Everton, after a fortunate first half, unfortunately seems to be the 'blip', and how we were against Newcastle was normal for us.
Yes, injuries have an effect, but losing is one thing, losing without effort is another.
The table doesn't lie - we beat teams in the bottom half, but as soon as we play a decent one, we struggle. That is where we are at.
I have said before that ETH isn't giving me a feeling that he can turn it around, but of course I hope he does. By doing so well last year, he almost made a rod for his back - only natural to expect improvement, but we have gone downhill.
But it is so hard to get the right manager, and who knows if he is currently out there right now.
But we have been getting the wrong manager so many times now..............
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posted on 5/12/23
It could just be both the players and manager are crap
posted on 5/12/23
ETH is a coward. He should just play the system, not the players, and drop the senior players for youth if they can't adapt. but like most managers that come to United, they get cold feet and give up on their philosophy because they are too afraid to lose their job and then do it in the end anyway. He said he wouldn't play the way he did at Ajax, despite that being exactly what he was brought in to do, and the fans want. Look at Klopp and Ange.
As Big Ange says:
The amount of time I hear managers saying 'I would like to play this way but I don't have the players...' I just think: 'Just so it mate!'
Grow some fecking balls Eric!
posted on 5/12/23
The loss of Martinez has been the biggest impact on our form this year imo. He is the fighter in our side and drags the others along with him. That can not be underestimated.
Look how we missed Cantona and then Keane in the SAF years……
posted on 6/12/23
comment by Garnacho cheese (U5318)
posted 1 hour, 31 minutes ago
ETH is a coward. He should just play the system, not the players, and drop the senior players for youth if they can't adapt. but like most managers that come to United, they get cold feet and give up on their philosophy because they are too afraid to lose their job and then do it in the end anyway. He said he wouldn't play the way he did at Ajax, despite that being exactly what he was brought in to do, and the fans want. Look at Klopp and Ange.
As Big Ange says:
The amount of time I hear managers saying 'I would like to play this way but I don't have the players...' I just think: 'Just so it mate!'
Grow some fecking balls Eric!
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This. I'm willing to sack every manager until one gets some balls. ETH either gets small balls or facking leave. I do not want Glazers, players, excuses. Its difficult but thats why it is important to get one that counts.
posted on 6/12/23
comment by bongopalin (U10119)
posted 1 hour ago
The loss of Martinez has been the biggest impact on our form this year imo. He is the fighter in our side and drags the others along with him. That can not be underestimated.
Look how we missed Cantona and then Keane in the SAF years……
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This after we lose to a team with one of the most disastrous injury records this season. We are now blaming it on Martinez now Shaw is back.
posted on 6/12/23
We also have had a disastrous injury situation, plus of course it depends on who is injured.
I'm not making excuses for the Newcastle game, we were poor pretty much all over the pitch, with Rashford the worst, but it was one game, away to a good team.
The Everton games was different. Are we going to want ETH praised when we win, castigated when we lose?
Injuries can affect every team.
posted on 6/12/23
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 3 minutes ago
We also have had a disastrous injury situation, plus of course it depends on who is injured.
I'm not making excuses for the Newcastle game, we were poor pretty much all over the pitch, with Rashford the worst, but it was one game, away to a good team.
The Everton games was different. Are we going to want ETH praised when we win, castigated when we lose?
Injuries can affect every team.
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Tell me about it...currently 9 with three suspended...the least we've had this season is about 6
posted on 6/12/23
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 1 hour ago
We also have had a disastrous injury situation, plus of course it depends on who is injured.
I'm not making excuses for the Newcastle game, we were poor pretty much all over the pitch, with Rashford the worst, but it was one game, away to a good team.
The Everton games was different. Are we going to want ETH praised when we win, castigated when we lose?
Injuries can affect every team.
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The result against Everton, after a fortunate first half, unfortunately seems to be the 'blip', and how we were against Newcastle was normal for us.
Yes, injuries have an effect, but losing is one thing, losing without effort is another.
The table doesn't lie - we beat teams in the bottom half, but as soon as we play a decent one, we struggle. That is where we are at.
I have said before that ETH isn't giving me a feeling that he can turn it around, but of course I hope he does. By doing so well last year, he almost made a rod for his back - only natural to expect improvement, but we have gone downhill.
But it is so hard to get the right manager, and who knows if he is currently out there right now.
But we have been getting the wrong manager so many times now..............
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