Perfectly legit? I'm not so sure.
Was the best I seen him play for u lot. Actually thought he was dog wafer in the games he scored but good lastnight.
Still think arsenal would make things a lot easier on themselves if he wasn’t playing but that’s on them.
He was one of our better players again as against Luton. Slowly he is getting better.
Still a lot to improve.
Hope he plays Vs us at Anfield..please.
I’m unconvinced, Havertz has certainly got better, but then he was terrible to begin with.
Too often he takes the safe option, e.g. yesterday he was through on the back four with time & space but instead of forcing the issue or even moving forward & shooting he just funnelled it out to Saka, who was marked.
Overall I thought he was OK, but definitely a downgrade on Xhaka so far.
comment by ItsAboutTheBackFour (U9916)
posted 52 minutes ago
I’m unconvinced, Havertz has certainly got better, but then he was terrible to begin with.
Too often he takes the safe option, e.g. yesterday he was through on the back four with time & space but instead of forcing the issue or even moving forward & shooting he just funnelled it out to Saka, who was marked.
Overall I thought he was OK, but definitely a downgrade on Xhaka so far.
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You have to give him till the end of the season at least
comment by oldboy2002 (U20062)
posted 1 hour, 55 minutes ago
comment by ItsAboutTheBackFour (U9916)
posted 52 minutes ago
I’m unconvinced, Havertz has certainly got better, but then he was terrible to begin with.
Too often he takes the safe option, e.g. yesterday he was through on the back four with time & space but instead of forcing the issue or even moving forward & shooting he just funnelled it out to Saka, who was marked.
Overall I thought he was OK, but definitely a downgrade on Xhaka so far.
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You have to give him till the end of the season at least
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Of course, but not necessarily in the first team, for instance if Thomas Partey regained fitness I would have him ahead of Havertz, we are weaker than we were at the same time last season. 🤷🏻♂️
comment by ItsAboutTheBackFour (U9916)
posted 21 minutes ago
comment by oldboy2002 (U20062)
posted 1 hour, 55 minutes ago
comment by ItsAboutTheBackFour (U9916)
posted 52 minutes ago
I’m unconvinced, Havertz has certainly got better, but then he was terrible to begin with.
Too often he takes the safe option, e.g. yesterday he was through on the back four with time & space but instead of forcing the issue or even moving forward & shooting he just funnelled it out to Saka, who was marked.
Overall I thought he was OK, but definitely a downgrade on Xhaka so far.
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You have to give him till the end of the season at least
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Of course, but not necessarily in the first team, for instance if Thomas Partey regained fitness I would have him ahead of Havertz, we are weaker than we were at the same time last season. 🤷🏻♂️
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We aren't weaker we are just playing a different way. Take the goal Havertz scored against Luton I doubt we would of seen Xhaka make that run and I don't think he would of been in a position to bundle in the non goal on Saturday. Havertz isn't going to match Xhaka's passing but if he can continue and improve his movement and make those late runs into the box he's gonna score goals.
Hes not worth £65 m.
Hes bound to play well every now and then.
He was one of the best vs Villa and Luton coz the rest of the team were crap
https://www.arsenal.com/news/havertz-wins-novembers-mens-player-month
comment by Admiral Ozil is my new favourite Star Wars character (U10178)
posted 1 day, 19 hours ago
comment by ItsAboutTheBackFour (U9916)
posted 21 minutes ago
comment by oldboy2002 (U20062)
posted 1 hour, 55 minutes ago
comment by ItsAboutTheBackFour (U9916)
posted 52 minutes ago
I’m unconvinced, Havertz has certainly got better, but then he was terrible to begin with.
Too often he takes the safe option, e.g. yesterday he was through on the back four with time & space but instead of forcing the issue or even moving forward & shooting he just funnelled it out to Saka, who was marked.
Overall I thought he was OK, but definitely a downgrade on Xhaka so far.
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You have to give him till the end of the season at least
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Of course, but not necessarily in the first team, for instance if Thomas Partey regained fitness I would have him ahead of Havertz, we are weaker than we were at the same time last season. 🤷🏻♂️
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We aren't weaker we are just playing a different way. Take the goal Havertz scored against Luton I doubt we would of seen Xhaka make that run and I don't think he would of been in a position to bundle in the non goal on Saturday. Havertz isn't going to match Xhaka's passing but if he can continue and improve his movement and make those late runs into the box he's gonna score goals.
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Definitely weaker in my view, we have less goals, a worse goal difference - I'm not saying Havertz is bad, but overall Xhaka was just significantly better.
comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted 1 day ago
https://www.arsenal.com/news/havertz-wins-novembers-mens-player-month
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Yeah, I think that's a sympathy vote & show of support because he was getting so much stick to begin with & now he's improved.
I'm a Gooner, I WANT him to succeed - but he has to do more & especially stop bottling the big situations & just laying it off & getting others to take the responsibility. His goal hanging is a real plus, I'm hoping he can continue to develop that.
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posted on 10/12/23
Perfectly legit? I'm not so sure.
posted on 10/12/23
Was the best I seen him play for u lot. Actually thought he was dog wafer in the games he scored but good lastnight.
Still think arsenal would make things a lot easier on themselves if he wasn’t playing but that’s on them.
posted on 10/12/23
He was one of our better players again as against Luton. Slowly he is getting better.
Still a lot to improve.
posted on 10/12/23
Hope he plays Vs us at Anfield..please.
posted on 10/12/23
I’m unconvinced, Havertz has certainly got better, but then he was terrible to begin with.
Too often he takes the safe option, e.g. yesterday he was through on the back four with time & space but instead of forcing the issue or even moving forward & shooting he just funnelled it out to Saka, who was marked.
Overall I thought he was OK, but definitely a downgrade on Xhaka so far.
posted on 10/12/23
comment by ItsAboutTheBackFour (U9916)
posted 52 minutes ago
I’m unconvinced, Havertz has certainly got better, but then he was terrible to begin with.
Too often he takes the safe option, e.g. yesterday he was through on the back four with time & space but instead of forcing the issue or even moving forward & shooting he just funnelled it out to Saka, who was marked.
Overall I thought he was OK, but definitely a downgrade on Xhaka so far.
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You have to give him till the end of the season at least
posted on 10/12/23
comment by oldboy2002 (U20062)
posted 1 hour, 55 minutes ago
comment by ItsAboutTheBackFour (U9916)
posted 52 minutes ago
I’m unconvinced, Havertz has certainly got better, but then he was terrible to begin with.
Too often he takes the safe option, e.g. yesterday he was through on the back four with time & space but instead of forcing the issue or even moving forward & shooting he just funnelled it out to Saka, who was marked.
Overall I thought he was OK, but definitely a downgrade on Xhaka so far.
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You have to give him till the end of the season at least
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Of course, but not necessarily in the first team, for instance if Thomas Partey regained fitness I would have him ahead of Havertz, we are weaker than we were at the same time last season. 🤷🏻♂️
posted on 10/12/23
comment by ItsAboutTheBackFour (U9916)
posted 21 minutes ago
comment by oldboy2002 (U20062)
posted 1 hour, 55 minutes ago
comment by ItsAboutTheBackFour (U9916)
posted 52 minutes ago
I’m unconvinced, Havertz has certainly got better, but then he was terrible to begin with.
Too often he takes the safe option, e.g. yesterday he was through on the back four with time & space but instead of forcing the issue or even moving forward & shooting he just funnelled it out to Saka, who was marked.
Overall I thought he was OK, but definitely a downgrade on Xhaka so far.
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You have to give him till the end of the season at least
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Of course, but not necessarily in the first team, for instance if Thomas Partey regained fitness I would have him ahead of Havertz, we are weaker than we were at the same time last season. 🤷🏻♂️
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We aren't weaker we are just playing a different way. Take the goal Havertz scored against Luton I doubt we would of seen Xhaka make that run and I don't think he would of been in a position to bundle in the non goal on Saturday. Havertz isn't going to match Xhaka's passing but if he can continue and improve his movement and make those late runs into the box he's gonna score goals.
posted on 11/12/23
Hes not worth £65 m.
Hes bound to play well every now and then.
He was one of the best vs Villa and Luton coz the rest of the team were crap
posted on 11/12/23
https://www.arsenal.com/news/havertz-wins-novembers-mens-player-month
posted on 12/12/23
comment by Admiral Ozil is my new favourite Star Wars character (U10178)
posted 1 day, 19 hours ago
comment by ItsAboutTheBackFour (U9916)
posted 21 minutes ago
comment by oldboy2002 (U20062)
posted 1 hour, 55 minutes ago
comment by ItsAboutTheBackFour (U9916)
posted 52 minutes ago
I’m unconvinced, Havertz has certainly got better, but then he was terrible to begin with.
Too often he takes the safe option, e.g. yesterday he was through on the back four with time & space but instead of forcing the issue or even moving forward & shooting he just funnelled it out to Saka, who was marked.
Overall I thought he was OK, but definitely a downgrade on Xhaka so far.
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You have to give him till the end of the season at least
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Of course, but not necessarily in the first team, for instance if Thomas Partey regained fitness I would have him ahead of Havertz, we are weaker than we were at the same time last season. 🤷🏻♂️
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We aren't weaker we are just playing a different way. Take the goal Havertz scored against Luton I doubt we would of seen Xhaka make that run and I don't think he would of been in a position to bundle in the non goal on Saturday. Havertz isn't going to match Xhaka's passing but if he can continue and improve his movement and make those late runs into the box he's gonna score goals.
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Definitely weaker in my view, we have less goals, a worse goal difference - I'm not saying Havertz is bad, but overall Xhaka was just significantly better.
posted on 12/12/23
comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted 1 day ago
https://www.arsenal.com/news/havertz-wins-novembers-mens-player-month
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Yeah, I think that's a sympathy vote & show of support because he was getting so much stick to begin with & now he's improved.
I'm a Gooner, I WANT him to succeed - but he has to do more & especially stop bottling the big situations & just laying it off & getting others to take the responsibility. His goal hanging is a real plus, I'm hoping he can continue to develop that.
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