The whole idea of VAR i understand was to clarification on ‘dubious’ decisions. For some reason it can NOT define if a player is in the area or not, but can pick the most miniscule of contacts to give a penalty, if it feels fit, however, a player can be wrestled to the ground on any given occasion, but this is not a ‘clear and obvious error’ by the referee, thus no penalty is then given.
Yes we are looking for consistency, but all we are getting is inconsistency, which is what we had previously, and still have from a human being/ref.
VAR costs the clubs an awful lot of money, and imo, it’s still not fit for purpose.
Yes, go back to moaning about refereeing decisions and bin VAR altogether.
Don’t get me wrong, I’m not blaming VAR for yet another defeat, that was down to rank poor statuesque defending, yet again.
it is the inconsistent application of the rules by VAR. 2 teams of VAR officials seem to be capable of coming to completely different decisions which is the exact thing it was supposed to stop.
Take the pen today. Clear his feet are in the box, clear his arm is not in a natural position. However because they can't 100% prove his arm was in the box they don't give it even though all available data points to it being a pen. Yet I've seen the same given in other games because the player had a foot on the line.
Looking at the second yellow, which should have been been a yellow to the player treading on Boly, if this is not a clear and obvious mistake then what is ? I would say that is the exact issue that VAR should be stepping in to prevent.
An apology is meaningless. Overturning the red - OK we get Boly back but in reality no one is looking at it before boxing day. We have lost points today because they failed to use VAR for the very purpose it was bought it.
For me right now I'd rather go back to how it used to be. I can accept the ref getting it wrong in the moment with the speed the game is played at. However knowing that multiple people looking at all the angles have still got it wrong, for me at least, just makes it feel worse.
I also feel that how VAR is currently used is undermining the Ref time and again and reducing the level of respect being shown to them which is not a good development.
All that said - have a wonderful Christmas and lets hope Newcastle don't suddenly fine their form before New Years day.
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posted on 23/12/23
The whole idea of VAR i understand was to clarification on ‘dubious’ decisions. For some reason it can NOT define if a player is in the area or not, but can pick the most miniscule of contacts to give a penalty, if it feels fit, however, a player can be wrestled to the ground on any given occasion, but this is not a ‘clear and obvious error’ by the referee, thus no penalty is then given.
Yes we are looking for consistency, but all we are getting is inconsistency, which is what we had previously, and still have from a human being/ref.
VAR costs the clubs an awful lot of money, and imo, it’s still not fit for purpose.
Yes, go back to moaning about refereeing decisions and bin VAR altogether.
posted on 23/12/23
Don’t get me wrong, I’m not blaming VAR for yet another defeat, that was down to rank poor statuesque defending, yet again.
posted on 23/12/23
it is the inconsistent application of the rules by VAR. 2 teams of VAR officials seem to be capable of coming to completely different decisions which is the exact thing it was supposed to stop.
Take the pen today. Clear his feet are in the box, clear his arm is not in a natural position. However because they can't 100% prove his arm was in the box they don't give it even though all available data points to it being a pen. Yet I've seen the same given in other games because the player had a foot on the line.
Looking at the second yellow, which should have been been a yellow to the player treading on Boly, if this is not a clear and obvious mistake then what is ? I would say that is the exact issue that VAR should be stepping in to prevent.
An apology is meaningless. Overturning the red - OK we get Boly back but in reality no one is looking at it before boxing day. We have lost points today because they failed to use VAR for the very purpose it was bought it.
For me right now I'd rather go back to how it used to be. I can accept the ref getting it wrong in the moment with the speed the game is played at. However knowing that multiple people looking at all the angles have still got it wrong, for me at least, just makes it feel worse.
I also feel that how VAR is currently used is undermining the Ref time and again and reducing the level of respect being shown to them which is not a good development.
All that said - have a wonderful Christmas and lets hope Newcastle don't suddenly fine their form before New Years day.
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