It’s the 3 promoted sides for me. Luton deserve credit, they have done much better than expected, they play their game and score a lot of goals for a struggling side. They are tough to beat at home as well. They just lack quality and will find it hard in the 2nd half of the season when teams have worked them out a bit more.

What I think will happen though is that Burnley will get relegated and then bounce straight back up again - they have that not good enough for the Prem, too good for the Champ look about them, whereas I can see Luton struggling and finishing mid table in the Champ next year.

Sheff U, their keeper is poor, they don’t score enough and they lost at home to Luton - they are down without a shadow of a doubt. If they can keep Hamer, and the lad at the back then they might come straight back up.

Everton - Doucoure is the key player for them, when he is fit they are much better. I don’t think they will have any problems, DCL is currently fit, Harrison, Onana and Mc Neill alongside Doucoure is a decent midfield and they have enough about them at the back against bottom half teams.

If Luton can somehow make it a dogfight with someone else towards the end of the season then they will have the advantage of having no pressure, like Forest last year. But I think they will have too many "plucky" defeats.

So yes I still think the promoted sides are all going back down.

comment by Zein Mayassi (U21076)
posted 2 minutes ago
If Luton can somehow make it a dogfight with someone else towards the end of the season then they will have the advantage of having no pressure, like Forest last year. But I think they will have too many "plucky" defeats.

So yes I still think the promoted sides are all going back down.
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It’s a shame as they have given a good account of themselves so far and been far from the walkover most were expecting.

But you look at their remaining away games - Tottenham, Arsenal, Liverpool, City, West Ham, Newcastle, Palace, Wolves, Burnley and Bournemouth - I reckon 5 points max from that which would likely leave them needing around 5/6 home wins to be safe, they play:

Brighton, Sheff U, Man U, Villa, Forest, Bournemouth, Brentford, Everton, Fulham

There will be loads of pressure on them in those final home games and they will likely have to win them all

Luton might be able to drag Forest or Palace back into it. Everton are too good to go down

comment by Christopher huffing glou (U20930)
posted 33 minutes ago
Luton might be able to drag Forest or Palace back into it. Everton are too good to go down
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Those 2 wins for Forest were massive and have given Nuno the start he needed. I think they will be too strong at home to get dragged back into it.

Palace - Hodgson is too wise to let them get in a scrap, they will be epically boring but will grind the points they need. They also have 3 fantastic players in Guehi, Olise and Eze - I would have all 3 at Spurs.

Brentford might get sucked into it though, they are on a horrible run and they look jaded to me. Collins performance against Wolves was one of the worst I’ve ever seen from a Prem defender and he is usually very good - wonder if they are completely knackered

This all comes back to one club doing something. Luton.

As we speak neither sheff utd (manager changed already) nor Burnely look like accumulating 30 points. That might change with one club having a little run but right now it seems unlikely.

Luton have played 10 home games and won 2 and drawn 2. They've played 9 away games and won 2 and drawn 1.

so that 15 points is not totally coming just form their little pokey ground or a special crowd. they are working just a swell away form home.

If you look at palace or brentford or forest they are more reliant on home form. Even fulham are totally reliant on home form and are worse off away than luton.

Everton by contrast have done way batter on the road than at the toxic woodison. Thats now changed round since the injustice narrative started.

But lets talk the real form.

Over the last 8 games luton have taken 9 points. If you give then a point a game then they will be on 34.

in the last 8 Brentford have only taken 3. thats why Brentford are in trouble and why they need to do something very soon to reverse that

The issue for me is do we really believe luton will continue on accumulating points

Burnley a
Brighton H
Newcastle A
Sheff utd H
man utd H
Liverpool A
Villa H
Palace A
Forest H
Spurs A
Arsenal A
Bournemouth H
City A
Brentford H
Wolves A
Everton H
West Ham H
Bournemouth A
Fulham H


I'd say the need wins in the relegation 6 pointers to do it.

Wouldnt surprise me if all 3 promoted sides got relegated... but all scoring more goals than Man United

Yeah, still the promoted 3 are most likely but Luton and Burnley are showing something and Everton Brentford etc might be dragged into it. Still wouldnt change my prediction of the 3 promoted going back down though. But theres a lot to play still and a january window too.

Itd be funny if Everton go down the only year in the last 4-5 years they havent deserved to.

comment by moreinjuredthanowen (U9641)
posted 1 hour, 59 minutes ago
This all comes back to one club doing something. Luton.

As we speak neither sheff utd (manager changed already) nor Burnely look like accumulating 30 points. That might change with one club having a little run but right now it seems unlikely.

Luton have played 10 home games and won 2 and drawn 2. They've played 9 away games and won 2 and drawn 1.

so that 15 points is not totally coming just form their little pokey ground or a special crowd. they are working just a swell away form home.

If you look at palace or brentford or forest they are more reliant on home form. Even fulham are totally reliant on home form and are worse off away than luton.

Everton by contrast have done way batter on the road than at the toxic woodison. Thats now changed round since the injustice narrative started.

But lets talk the real form.

Over the last 8 games luton have taken 9 points. If you give then a point a game then they will be on 34.

in the last 8 Brentford have only taken 3. thats why Brentford are in trouble and why they need to do something very soon to reverse that

The issue for me is do we really believe luton will continue on accumulating points

Burnley a
Brighton H
Newcastle A
Sheff utd H
man utd H
Liverpool A
Villa H
Palace A
Forest H
Spurs A
Arsenal A
Bournemouth H
City A
Brentford H
Wolves A
Everton H
West Ham H
Bournemouth A
Fulham H


I'd say the need wins in the relegation 6 pointers to do it.


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Their home games remaining are far more winnable than their aways.

I can’t see it though, I think Everton will win 6 more games minimum which would put them on 34, Luton aren’t getting likely 7 wins

Palace dropping like a stone.

I worry for them, i think Woy will be sacked if they don't turn it around in the next couple of games.

I hope Luton manage to stay up they have really added to the league in a way Sheffield United and Burnley haven't.

Kompany has really struggled to adjust to the league, I wonder if they will pull the trigger on his time soon to see if that gives them a new lease of life or are they committed to him, convinced he would take them back up in better shape in a season. I'm not so I would have given him the boot already.

Between Luton and Brentford for the last place and Brentford should win that comfortably if Toney stays.

Whites smell