comment by Changing my name from My POV - but not decided what to change it to yet (U10636)
posted 29 minutes ago
Looks like that Kuhn from Rapid Vienna will be our first signing of this window.
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this one is intriguing.
when you look at return, goals assists, its not inspiring and not a lot of good wingers out there for 3 million.
but dribbles per game etc are positive.
Dont know anything about the boy Kuhn other than whats reported today.
Seems like a bit of a strange one to me. Rodgers has been talking about bringing in real quality all season yet the profile of this boy seems pretty similar to celtics summer signings...younger player in the £2-3m bracket with promising if not spectacular stats.
He may turn out to be an absolute gem but he doesnt scream next level quality signing on the surface of it in the way your £6-7m CCV/Jota signings might.
fear not.
if he isnt a player rodgers wants then he just wont sign off on him...
surely he won't do that, then complain about who we signed.
I am not complaining. I would rather celtic continued to gamble in the £2-3m market.
Such a big deal is made about how much money Celtic have I am just delighted that (so far at least) they dont seem that keen to spend it in the £5-7m market.
There are never any guarantees but the CCV and Jota signings showed you can get real next level value in that market.
comment by JFK (U8919)
posted 3 minutes ago
fear not.
if he isnt a player rodgers wants then he just wont sign off on him...
surely he won't do that, then complain about who we signed.
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comment by Humble Hamish (U21959)
posted 41 seconds ago
I am not complaining. I would rather celtic continued to gamble in the £2-3m market.
Such a big deal is made about how much money Celtic have I am just delighted that (so far at least) they dont seem that keen to spend it in the £5-7m market.
There are never any guarantees but the CCV and Jota signings showed you can get real next level value in that market.
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Absolutely
i had it good for a bit there.
then lawwell came back
comment by JFK (U8919)
posted 21 minutes ago
i had it good for a bit there.
then lawwell came back
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comment by lauders Shaqqer *Of Cats (U9757)
posted 50 minutes ago
comment by Humble Hamish (U21959)
posted 41 seconds ago
I am not complaining. I would rather celtic continued to gamble in the £2-3m market.
Such a big deal is made about how much money Celtic have I am just delighted that (so far at least) they dont seem that keen to spend it in the £5-7m market.
There are never any guarantees but the CCV and Jota signings showed you can get real next level value in that market.
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Absolutely
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Welcome to the business end of a plc
I’m stunned that people actually get surprised at how we operate. It’s always the same until it doesn’t work. Then we throw money at at until the next time.
We bought some dross in the summer. I wrote a couple off straight away. A couple might come good.
However if we get Bernardo long term at a decent price it will have been excellent. Palma has also made a fair contribution.
We should never expect other than 1 or 2 first team ready players in any window.
Looks like that Kuhn from Rapid Vienna will be our first signing of this window.
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I like the profile of Khun - had a look at him in a few games since his name popped up and he looks a talented player
comment by CelticTornado (U4316)
posted 39 minutes ago
Looks like that Kuhn from Rapid Vienna will be our first signing of this window.
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I like the profile of Khun - had a look at him in a few games since his name popped up and he looks a talented player
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You’d like to think he’s got at least a bit more composure than Maeda on the right wing.
comment by Humble Hamish (U21959)
posted 1 hour, 59 minutes ago
I am not complaining. I would rather celtic continued to gamble in the £2-3m market.
Such a big deal is made about how much money Celtic have I am just delighted that (so far at least) they dont seem that keen to spend it in the £5-7m market.
There are never any guarantees but the CCV and Jota signings showed you can get real next level value in that market.
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Think they were both on loan with options though?
Sima would’ve surely been cheaper last summer than he would be now after a good season for us so far - have to assume we tried to get an option included in deal but poor we didn’t.
Pretty sure Celtic signed a few players for around 5m or more that were flops, Julien, Barkas, Ajeti at least. Spending at that value doesn’t guarantee much. Never mind the players Beale actually spent good money on last summer.
Beale’s transfers that were free or nominal have actually been really good value too.
In what way was Jullien a flop?
That's someone who just makes scheidt up
Plus there are people saying Kuhn is a project. He is 24. He is going straight in to the team. I think he'll be good from what I have read. If we were solely going off stats of goals and assists then Abada and Palma would never get dropped but we are missing that trickery that a proper winger can provide. Kuhn appears to fit that bill.
FFS if he cost £8M we'd think he was amazing but then top teams in other leagues would alreayd have signed him so we have to take chances on players who have had good seasons.
GG had only had one season and there were plenty on here saying he was a one season wonder, his price tag is low for a reason blah blah blah
Celtic are addressing an area we know we wanted something different in yet fans are still moaning.
comment by Call Sign (U3627)
posted 14 minutes ago
In what way was Jullien a flop?
That's someone who just makes scheidt up
Plus there are people saying Kuhn is a project. He is 24. He is going straight in to the team. I think he'll be good from what I have read. If we were solely going off stats of goals and assists then Abada and Palma would never get dropped but we are missing that trickery that a proper winger can provide. Kuhn appears to fit that bill.
FFS if he cost £8M we'd think he was amazing but then top teams in other leagues would alreayd have signed him so we have to take chances on players who have had good seasons.
GG had only had one season and there were plenty on here saying he was a one season wonder, his price tag is low for a reason blah blah blah
Celtic are addressing an area we know we wanted something different in yet fans are still moaning.
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Just going from what I read on here I thought Celtic fans were keen on some cash being spent on next level immediate impact first team enhancing quality.
I thought thats what Brendan was after.
As I said - the lad might turn out to be a gem but he just isnt the profile of player I would have expected moneybags celtic to be signing after all the moaning about proper quality.
It just looks like you are still pashing about in the types of markets we are forced to take gambles in because were are absolutely pyoor brassic skinto like.
comment by Call Sign (U3627)
posted 1 hour, 2 minutes ago
In what way was Jullien a flop?
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You paid 7m for him , and sold him for 1m. He only really managed to get in the team in his first season then barely seen again. In juries may hvae played a part but that gets considered in deciding if a deal was poor or not.
So in essence you got a season out your 2nd biggest ever purchase and then sold him on for a huge loss.
comment by Humble Hamish (U21959)
posted 3 minutes ago
Just going from what I read on here I thought Celtic fans were keen on some cash being spent on next level immediate impact first team enhancing quality.
I thought thats what Brendan was after.
As I said - the lad might turn out to be a gem but he just isnt the profile of player I would have expected moneybags celtic to be signing after all the moaning about proper quality.
It just looks like you are still pashing about in the types of markets we are forced to take gambles in because were are absolutely pyoor brassic skinto like.
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So what is the market you think we should be shopping in?
Brighton just spent £10M on a Brazilian teenage prospect.
Spurs just signed a centre half for £26M from a mid table Italian team.
Feyenoord value their good striker at £30M - they sold their scheidt striker to some mugs for £6M
So what is the market you think Celtic should be shopping in?
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Call Sign (U3627)
posted 1 hour, 2 minutes ago
In what way was Jullien a flop?
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You paid 7m for him , and sold him for 1m. He only really managed to get in the team in his first season then barely seen again. In juries may hvae played a part but that gets considered in deciding if a deal was poor or not.
So in essence you got a season out your 2nd biggest ever purchase and then sold him on for a huge loss.
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"In juries may hvae played a part but that gets considered in deciding if a deal was poor or not."
Correct they are considered and he was still not a flop. Good player, unlucky with injury, unlucky with regards to timing of a new manager coming in with his own way of playing. A year left on contract we weren't going to sell him for £7M when he had been out injured. Left with everyone's best wishes. Not every player is going to be sold for the same as or more than they were bought for otherwise 90% of players would be deemed as flops.
Morelos must have been a flop then? Bought for a few million, didn't get anything back for him. Fitness may hvae played a part but that gets considered in deciding if a deal was poor or not. So therefore Morelos was a flop.
Morelos was bough for £1m, and easily repaid that - he’s our top scorer in European competitions. Definitely not a flop.
Kent would call a flop given fee paid, return and that he didn’t kick on. Was still a very good player for us though. Probably got more for fee than you did with Julien too.
Roofe I’d call a flop - great whin fit but is always injured.
comment by Call Sign (U3627)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Call Sign (U3627)
posted 1 hour, 2 minutes ago
In what way was Jullien a flop?
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You paid 7m for him , and sold him for 1m. He only really managed to get in the team in his first season then barely seen again. In juries may hvae played a part but that gets considered in deciding if a deal was poor or not.
So in essence you got a season out your 2nd biggest ever purchase and then sold him on for a huge loss.
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"In juries may hvae played a part but that gets considered in deciding if a deal was poor or not."
Correct they are considered and he was still not a flop. Good player, unlucky with injury, unlucky with regards to timing of a new manager coming in with his own way of playing. A year left on contract we weren't going to sell him for £7M when he had been out injured. Left with everyone's best wishes. Not every player is going to be sold for the same as or more than they were bought for otherwise 90% of players would be deemed as flops.
Morelos must have been a flop then? Bought for a few million, didn't get anything back for him. Fitness may hvae played a part but that gets considered in deciding if a deal was poor or not. So therefore Morelos was a flop.
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his time at celtic was a flop cmon ... you bought him for 7m and got a just over a season out of him and sold him for 1m !!
comparing him to morelos ?? who our top eiuropean scorer who cost 1m and played nearly 200 games for us? yeah thats the same
comment by Call Sign (U3627)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Humble Hamish (U21959)
posted 3 minutes ago
Just going from what I read on here I thought Celtic fans were keen on some cash being spent on next level immediate impact first team enhancing quality.
I thought thats what Brendan was after.
As I said - the lad might turn out to be a gem but he just isnt the profile of player I would have expected moneybags celtic to be signing after all the moaning about proper quality.
It just looks like you are still pashing about in the types of markets we are forced to take gambles in because were are absolutely pyoor brassic skinto like.
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So what is the market you think we should be shopping in?
Brighton just spent £10M on a Brazilian teenage prospect.
Spurs just signed a centre half for £26M from a mid table Italian team.
Feyenoord value their good striker at £30M - they sold their scheidt striker to some mugs for £6M
So what is the market you think Celtic should be shopping in?
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Its not a case of what market I think celtic 'should' be shopping in. They can do what they want.
Its more of a case of what market I thought they 'would' be shopping in if they were going to deliver the step change in the quality that Brendan has been going on about.
All I am saying is on the surface of it a £2.5m winger with a couple of goals to his name all season doesnt scream next level quality to me.
Good luck to the boy. He may be absolutely terrific and a steal at that money.
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 45 seconds ago
comment by Call Sign (U3627)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Call Sign (U3627)
posted 1 hour, 2 minutes ago
In what way was Jullien a flop?
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You paid 7m for him , and sold him for 1m. He only really managed to get in the team in his first season then barely seen again. In juries may hvae played a part but that gets considered in deciding if a deal was poor or not.
So in essence you got a season out your 2nd biggest ever purchase and then sold him on for a huge loss.
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"In juries may hvae played a part but that gets considered in deciding if a deal was poor or not."
Correct they are considered and he was still not a flop. Good player, unlucky with injury, unlucky with regards to timing of a new manager coming in with his own way of playing. A year left on contract we weren't going to sell him for £7M when he had been out injured. Left with everyone's best wishes. Not every player is going to be sold for the same as or more than they were bought for otherwise 90% of players would be deemed as flops.
Morelos must have been a flop then? Bought for a few million, didn't get anything back for him. Fitness may hvae played a part but that gets considered in deciding if a deal was poor or not. So therefore Morelos was a flop.
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his time at celtic was a flop cmon ... you bought him for 7m and got a just over a season out of him and sold him for 1m !!
comparing him to morelos ?? who our top eiuropean scorer who cost 1m and played nearly 200 games for us? yeah thats the same
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You are correct and why, generally, I think the club look for a loan with a price agreed a la Eddy, Jota, CCV.
That said, I think we got more value from Julien than we did Ajeti.
comment by Humble Hamish (U21959)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Call Sign (U3627)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Humble Hamish (U21959)
posted 3 minutes ago
Just going from what I read on here I thought Celtic fans were keen on some cash being spent on next level immediate impact first team enhancing quality.
I thought thats what Brendan was after.
As I said - the lad might turn out to be a gem but he just isnt the profile of player I would have expected moneybags celtic to be signing after all the moaning about proper quality.
It just looks like you are still pashing about in the types of markets we are forced to take gambles in because were are absolutely pyoor brassic skinto like.
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So what is the market you think we should be shopping in?
Brighton just spent £10M on a Brazilian teenage prospect.
Spurs just signed a centre half for £26M from a mid table Italian team.
Feyenoord value their good striker at £30M - they sold their scheidt striker to some mugs for £6M
So what is the market you think Celtic should be shopping in?
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Its not a case of what market I think celtic 'should' be shopping in. They can do what they want.
Its more of a case of what market I thought they 'would' be shopping in if they were going to deliver the step change in the quality that Brendan has been going on about.
All I am saying is on the surface of it a £2.5m winger with a couple of goals to his name all season doesnt scream next level quality to me.
Good luck to the boy. He may be absolutely terrific and a steal at that money.
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Agreed also but per above I think the board shat it at the numbers we agreed for CCV & Jota if they don't prove themselves first. They are probably correct - if a club will only deal to buy and not do the try before you buy then that probably rings some alarms.
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 45 seconds ago
comment by Call Sign (U3627)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Call Sign (U3627)
posted 1 hour, 2 minutes ago
In what way was Jullien a flop?
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You paid 7m for him , and sold him for 1m. He only really managed to get in the team in his first season then barely seen again. In juries may hvae played a part but that gets considered in deciding if a deal was poor or not.
So in essence you got a season out your 2nd biggest ever purchase and then sold him on for a huge loss.
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"In juries may hvae played a part but that gets considered in deciding if a deal was poor or not."
Correct they are considered and he was still not a flop. Good player, unlucky with injury, unlucky with regards to timing of a new manager coming in with his own way of playing. A year left on contract we weren't going to sell him for £7M when he had been out injured. Left with everyone's best wishes. Not every player is going to be sold for the same as or more than they were bought for otherwise 90% of players would be deemed as flops.
Morelos must have been a flop then? Bought for a few million, didn't get anything back for him. Fitness may hvae played a part but that gets considered in deciding if a deal was poor or not. So therefore Morelos was a flop.
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his time at celtic was a flop cmon ... you bought him for 7m and got a just over a season out of him and sold him for 1m !!
comparing him to morelos ?? who our top eiuropean scorer who cost 1m and played nearly 200 games for us? yeah thats the same
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You are correct and why, generally, I think the club look for a loan with a price agreed a la Eddy, Jota, CCV.
That said, I think we got more value from Julien than we did Ajeti.
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I think the loan with an option to buy for bigger deals is by far the most sensible way to approach these deals... granted that might not always be available but I think its the smartest way to go about it. Or even an obligation to buy assuming certain parameters are met as that can secure the player and stop any other clubs sniffing about to pick up a bargain in good form if thats how it turns out.
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posted on 12/1/24
comment by Changing my name from My POV - but not decided what to change it to yet (U10636)
posted 29 minutes ago
Looks like that Kuhn from Rapid Vienna will be our first signing of this window.
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this one is intriguing.
when you look at return, goals assists, its not inspiring and not a lot of good wingers out there for 3 million.
but dribbles per game etc are positive.
posted on 12/1/24
Dont know anything about the boy Kuhn other than whats reported today.
Seems like a bit of a strange one to me. Rodgers has been talking about bringing in real quality all season yet the profile of this boy seems pretty similar to celtics summer signings...younger player in the £2-3m bracket with promising if not spectacular stats.
He may turn out to be an absolute gem but he doesnt scream next level quality signing on the surface of it in the way your £6-7m CCV/Jota signings might.
posted on 12/1/24
fear not.
if he isnt a player rodgers wants then he just wont sign off on him...
surely he won't do that, then complain about who we signed.
posted on 12/1/24
I am not complaining. I would rather celtic continued to gamble in the £2-3m market.
Such a big deal is made about how much money Celtic have I am just delighted that (so far at least) they dont seem that keen to spend it in the £5-7m market.
There are never any guarantees but the CCV and Jota signings showed you can get real next level value in that market.
posted on 12/1/24
comment by JFK (U8919)
posted 3 minutes ago
fear not.
if he isnt a player rodgers wants then he just wont sign off on him...
surely he won't do that, then complain about who we signed.
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posted on 12/1/24
comment by Humble Hamish (U21959)
posted 41 seconds ago
I am not complaining. I would rather celtic continued to gamble in the £2-3m market.
Such a big deal is made about how much money Celtic have I am just delighted that (so far at least) they dont seem that keen to spend it in the £5-7m market.
There are never any guarantees but the CCV and Jota signings showed you can get real next level value in that market.
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Absolutely
posted on 12/1/24
i had it good for a bit there.
then lawwell came back
posted on 12/1/24
comment by JFK (U8919)
posted 21 minutes ago
i had it good for a bit there.
then lawwell came back
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posted on 12/1/24
comment by lauders Shaqqer *Of Cats (U9757)
posted 50 minutes ago
comment by Humble Hamish (U21959)
posted 41 seconds ago
I am not complaining. I would rather celtic continued to gamble in the £2-3m market.
Such a big deal is made about how much money Celtic have I am just delighted that (so far at least) they dont seem that keen to spend it in the £5-7m market.
There are never any guarantees but the CCV and Jota signings showed you can get real next level value in that market.
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Absolutely
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Welcome to the business end of a plc
I’m stunned that people actually get surprised at how we operate. It’s always the same until it doesn’t work. Then we throw money at at until the next time.
posted on 12/1/24
We bought some dross in the summer. I wrote a couple off straight away. A couple might come good.
However if we get Bernardo long term at a decent price it will have been excellent. Palma has also made a fair contribution.
We should never expect other than 1 or 2 first team ready players in any window.
posted on 12/1/24
Looks like that Kuhn from Rapid Vienna will be our first signing of this window.
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I like the profile of Khun - had a look at him in a few games since his name popped up and he looks a talented player
posted on 12/1/24
comment by CelticTornado (U4316)
posted 39 minutes ago
Looks like that Kuhn from Rapid Vienna will be our first signing of this window.
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I like the profile of Khun - had a look at him in a few games since his name popped up and he looks a talented player
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You’d like to think he’s got at least a bit more composure than Maeda on the right wing.
posted on 12/1/24
comment by Humble Hamish (U21959)
posted 1 hour, 59 minutes ago
I am not complaining. I would rather celtic continued to gamble in the £2-3m market.
Such a big deal is made about how much money Celtic have I am just delighted that (so far at least) they dont seem that keen to spend it in the £5-7m market.
There are never any guarantees but the CCV and Jota signings showed you can get real next level value in that market.
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Think they were both on loan with options though?
Sima would’ve surely been cheaper last summer than he would be now after a good season for us so far - have to assume we tried to get an option included in deal but poor we didn’t.
Pretty sure Celtic signed a few players for around 5m or more that were flops, Julien, Barkas, Ajeti at least. Spending at that value doesn’t guarantee much. Never mind the players Beale actually spent good money on last summer.
Beale’s transfers that were free or nominal have actually been really good value too.
posted on 12/1/24
In what way was Jullien a flop?
That's someone who just makes scheidt up
Plus there are people saying Kuhn is a project. He is 24. He is going straight in to the team. I think he'll be good from what I have read. If we were solely going off stats of goals and assists then Abada and Palma would never get dropped but we are missing that trickery that a proper winger can provide. Kuhn appears to fit that bill.
FFS if he cost £8M we'd think he was amazing but then top teams in other leagues would alreayd have signed him so we have to take chances on players who have had good seasons.
GG had only had one season and there were plenty on here saying he was a one season wonder, his price tag is low for a reason blah blah blah
Celtic are addressing an area we know we wanted something different in yet fans are still moaning.
posted on 12/1/24
comment by Call Sign (U3627)
posted 14 minutes ago
In what way was Jullien a flop?
That's someone who just makes scheidt up
Plus there are people saying Kuhn is a project. He is 24. He is going straight in to the team. I think he'll be good from what I have read. If we were solely going off stats of goals and assists then Abada and Palma would never get dropped but we are missing that trickery that a proper winger can provide. Kuhn appears to fit that bill.
FFS if he cost £8M we'd think he was amazing but then top teams in other leagues would alreayd have signed him so we have to take chances on players who have had good seasons.
GG had only had one season and there were plenty on here saying he was a one season wonder, his price tag is low for a reason blah blah blah
Celtic are addressing an area we know we wanted something different in yet fans are still moaning.
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posted on 12/1/24
Just going from what I read on here I thought Celtic fans were keen on some cash being spent on next level immediate impact first team enhancing quality.
I thought thats what Brendan was after.
As I said - the lad might turn out to be a gem but he just isnt the profile of player I would have expected moneybags celtic to be signing after all the moaning about proper quality.
It just looks like you are still pashing about in the types of markets we are forced to take gambles in because were are absolutely pyoor brassic skinto like.
posted on 12/1/24
comment by Call Sign (U3627)
posted 1 hour, 2 minutes ago
In what way was Jullien a flop?
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You paid 7m for him , and sold him for 1m. He only really managed to get in the team in his first season then barely seen again. In juries may hvae played a part but that gets considered in deciding if a deal was poor or not.
So in essence you got a season out your 2nd biggest ever purchase and then sold him on for a huge loss.
posted on 12/1/24
comment by Humble Hamish (U21959)
posted 3 minutes ago
Just going from what I read on here I thought Celtic fans were keen on some cash being spent on next level immediate impact first team enhancing quality.
I thought thats what Brendan was after.
As I said - the lad might turn out to be a gem but he just isnt the profile of player I would have expected moneybags celtic to be signing after all the moaning about proper quality.
It just looks like you are still pashing about in the types of markets we are forced to take gambles in because were are absolutely pyoor brassic skinto like.
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So what is the market you think we should be shopping in?
Brighton just spent £10M on a Brazilian teenage prospect.
Spurs just signed a centre half for £26M from a mid table Italian team.
Feyenoord value their good striker at £30M - they sold their scheidt striker to some mugs for £6M
So what is the market you think Celtic should be shopping in?
posted on 12/1/24
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Call Sign (U3627)
posted 1 hour, 2 minutes ago
In what way was Jullien a flop?
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You paid 7m for him , and sold him for 1m. He only really managed to get in the team in his first season then barely seen again. In juries may hvae played a part but that gets considered in deciding if a deal was poor or not.
So in essence you got a season out your 2nd biggest ever purchase and then sold him on for a huge loss.
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"In juries may hvae played a part but that gets considered in deciding if a deal was poor or not."
Correct they are considered and he was still not a flop. Good player, unlucky with injury, unlucky with regards to timing of a new manager coming in with his own way of playing. A year left on contract we weren't going to sell him for £7M when he had been out injured. Left with everyone's best wishes. Not every player is going to be sold for the same as or more than they were bought for otherwise 90% of players would be deemed as flops.
Morelos must have been a flop then? Bought for a few million, didn't get anything back for him. Fitness may hvae played a part but that gets considered in deciding if a deal was poor or not. So therefore Morelos was a flop.
posted on 12/1/24
Morelos was bough for £1m, and easily repaid that - he’s our top scorer in European competitions. Definitely not a flop.
Kent would call a flop given fee paid, return and that he didn’t kick on. Was still a very good player for us though. Probably got more for fee than you did with Julien too.
Roofe I’d call a flop - great whin fit but is always injured.
posted on 12/1/24
comment by Call Sign (U3627)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Call Sign (U3627)
posted 1 hour, 2 minutes ago
In what way was Jullien a flop?
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You paid 7m for him , and sold him for 1m. He only really managed to get in the team in his first season then barely seen again. In juries may hvae played a part but that gets considered in deciding if a deal was poor or not.
So in essence you got a season out your 2nd biggest ever purchase and then sold him on for a huge loss.
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"In juries may hvae played a part but that gets considered in deciding if a deal was poor or not."
Correct they are considered and he was still not a flop. Good player, unlucky with injury, unlucky with regards to timing of a new manager coming in with his own way of playing. A year left on contract we weren't going to sell him for £7M when he had been out injured. Left with everyone's best wishes. Not every player is going to be sold for the same as or more than they were bought for otherwise 90% of players would be deemed as flops.
Morelos must have been a flop then? Bought for a few million, didn't get anything back for him. Fitness may hvae played a part but that gets considered in deciding if a deal was poor or not. So therefore Morelos was a flop.
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his time at celtic was a flop cmon ... you bought him for 7m and got a just over a season out of him and sold him for 1m !!
comparing him to morelos ?? who our top eiuropean scorer who cost 1m and played nearly 200 games for us? yeah thats the same
posted on 12/1/24
comment by Call Sign (U3627)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Humble Hamish (U21959)
posted 3 minutes ago
Just going from what I read on here I thought Celtic fans were keen on some cash being spent on next level immediate impact first team enhancing quality.
I thought thats what Brendan was after.
As I said - the lad might turn out to be a gem but he just isnt the profile of player I would have expected moneybags celtic to be signing after all the moaning about proper quality.
It just looks like you are still pashing about in the types of markets we are forced to take gambles in because were are absolutely pyoor brassic skinto like.
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So what is the market you think we should be shopping in?
Brighton just spent £10M on a Brazilian teenage prospect.
Spurs just signed a centre half for £26M from a mid table Italian team.
Feyenoord value their good striker at £30M - they sold their scheidt striker to some mugs for £6M
So what is the market you think Celtic should be shopping in?
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Its not a case of what market I think celtic 'should' be shopping in. They can do what they want.
Its more of a case of what market I thought they 'would' be shopping in if they were going to deliver the step change in the quality that Brendan has been going on about.
All I am saying is on the surface of it a £2.5m winger with a couple of goals to his name all season doesnt scream next level quality to me.
Good luck to the boy. He may be absolutely terrific and a steal at that money.
posted on 12/1/24
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 45 seconds ago
comment by Call Sign (U3627)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Call Sign (U3627)
posted 1 hour, 2 minutes ago
In what way was Jullien a flop?
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You paid 7m for him , and sold him for 1m. He only really managed to get in the team in his first season then barely seen again. In juries may hvae played a part but that gets considered in deciding if a deal was poor or not.
So in essence you got a season out your 2nd biggest ever purchase and then sold him on for a huge loss.
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"In juries may hvae played a part but that gets considered in deciding if a deal was poor or not."
Correct they are considered and he was still not a flop. Good player, unlucky with injury, unlucky with regards to timing of a new manager coming in with his own way of playing. A year left on contract we weren't going to sell him for £7M when he had been out injured. Left with everyone's best wishes. Not every player is going to be sold for the same as or more than they were bought for otherwise 90% of players would be deemed as flops.
Morelos must have been a flop then? Bought for a few million, didn't get anything back for him. Fitness may hvae played a part but that gets considered in deciding if a deal was poor or not. So therefore Morelos was a flop.
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his time at celtic was a flop cmon ... you bought him for 7m and got a just over a season out of him and sold him for 1m !!
comparing him to morelos ?? who our top eiuropean scorer who cost 1m and played nearly 200 games for us? yeah thats the same
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You are correct and why, generally, I think the club look for a loan with a price agreed a la Eddy, Jota, CCV.
That said, I think we got more value from Julien than we did Ajeti.
posted on 12/1/24
comment by Humble Hamish (U21959)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Call Sign (U3627)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Humble Hamish (U21959)
posted 3 minutes ago
Just going from what I read on here I thought Celtic fans were keen on some cash being spent on next level immediate impact first team enhancing quality.
I thought thats what Brendan was after.
As I said - the lad might turn out to be a gem but he just isnt the profile of player I would have expected moneybags celtic to be signing after all the moaning about proper quality.
It just looks like you are still pashing about in the types of markets we are forced to take gambles in because were are absolutely pyoor brassic skinto like.
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So what is the market you think we should be shopping in?
Brighton just spent £10M on a Brazilian teenage prospect.
Spurs just signed a centre half for £26M from a mid table Italian team.
Feyenoord value their good striker at £30M - they sold their scheidt striker to some mugs for £6M
So what is the market you think Celtic should be shopping in?
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Its not a case of what market I think celtic 'should' be shopping in. They can do what they want.
Its more of a case of what market I thought they 'would' be shopping in if they were going to deliver the step change in the quality that Brendan has been going on about.
All I am saying is on the surface of it a £2.5m winger with a couple of goals to his name all season doesnt scream next level quality to me.
Good luck to the boy. He may be absolutely terrific and a steal at that money.
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Agreed also but per above I think the board shat it at the numbers we agreed for CCV & Jota if they don't prove themselves first. They are probably correct - if a club will only deal to buy and not do the try before you buy then that probably rings some alarms.
posted on 12/1/24
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 45 seconds ago
comment by Call Sign (U3627)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Call Sign (U3627)
posted 1 hour, 2 minutes ago
In what way was Jullien a flop?
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You paid 7m for him , and sold him for 1m. He only really managed to get in the team in his first season then barely seen again. In juries may hvae played a part but that gets considered in deciding if a deal was poor or not.
So in essence you got a season out your 2nd biggest ever purchase and then sold him on for a huge loss.
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"In juries may hvae played a part but that gets considered in deciding if a deal was poor or not."
Correct they are considered and he was still not a flop. Good player, unlucky with injury, unlucky with regards to timing of a new manager coming in with his own way of playing. A year left on contract we weren't going to sell him for £7M when he had been out injured. Left with everyone's best wishes. Not every player is going to be sold for the same as or more than they were bought for otherwise 90% of players would be deemed as flops.
Morelos must have been a flop then? Bought for a few million, didn't get anything back for him. Fitness may hvae played a part but that gets considered in deciding if a deal was poor or not. So therefore Morelos was a flop.
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his time at celtic was a flop cmon ... you bought him for 7m and got a just over a season out of him and sold him for 1m !!
comparing him to morelos ?? who our top eiuropean scorer who cost 1m and played nearly 200 games for us? yeah thats the same
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You are correct and why, generally, I think the club look for a loan with a price agreed a la Eddy, Jota, CCV.
That said, I think we got more value from Julien than we did Ajeti.
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I think the loan with an option to buy for bigger deals is by far the most sensible way to approach these deals... granted that might not always be available but I think its the smartest way to go about it. Or even an obligation to buy assuming certain parameters are met as that can secure the player and stop any other clubs sniffing about to pick up a bargain in good form if thats how it turns out.
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