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Not really is it? I said they'd never work out rather than predicting the day they'd leave.
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You were predicting they’d be sold every summer and they never were.
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They should have been. 😂
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Moron!
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Anderson ended up in the second division in Brazil not long after leaving us. Pogba couldnt stay fit and didn't care a jot when he was anyway. He's since been banned for taking illegal substances too just for the cherry on the cake.
I was a visionary.
Rashford has a 1 goal in every 3 games record for United over his career to date. That's actually a very good record given he's still only 26, he's been playing off the left quite a fair bit and the team has been largely a shambles.
It hold ups against quite a lot of quality players around Europe. Not in the absolutely world class bracket of course but still very competitive.
Don't understand why he gets the hate he does at times. it's so ridiculous.
It's more disappointment for me with Rashford.
He's the local lad playing for the team he supports so if he can't be bothered giving it 100% then other players may not either. We need him to be a leader and an example setter.
The thing is with Rashford is that he does have the tools to be a much better player than he's showing currently too. Let's hope he's had his blip and can discover some of last season's form in the run in.
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comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 28 seconds ago
Rashford will still be here next season. Those who want him gone badly need to prepare for it. He's been priced out of a lot of markets now.
Realistically it's down to PSG as I can't see him going to Saudia Arabia in a million years.
Rashford will be with us next season again so we need to get him back to himself and fast.
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Predictions again !
You're usually sheite at them, cherub.
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I'm actually quite good at them. See Anderson, Pogba and plenty others for reference.
ETH is going to lose his job before next summer. You're in complete denial about it. We are conceding two goals against 4th division teams with close to our strongest team out. He's not good enough.
You can always sell your ETH pillow on eBay mate.
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Deluded twonk!
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That's you mate.
Out of Europe. Out of top 4 race. Out of League cup. Scraping through FA cup against 4th division teams.
As I have been telling you for two months....you made such a stance about how he must stay that you won't be convinced in any shape or form that you're wrong.
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No one is arguing those points. You have gone full on Scholay you numbnut.
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You just can’t help yourself you fecking old cretin.
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 42 minutes ago
Rashford has a 1 goal in every 3 games record for United over his career to date. That's actually a very good record given he's still only 26, he's been playing off the left quite a fair bit and the team has been largely a shambles.
It hold ups against quite a lot of quality players around Europe. Not in the absolutely world class bracket of course but still very competitive.
Don't understand why he gets the hate he does at times. it's so ridiculous.
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As an observer I can see why he frustrates because he doesnt play any where near his highest level consistently, sulks, goes long periods in a funk, and any player knows if things aren't working then do the basics right, hard work, effort are needed. You dont really see that on the pitch so you assume he's not bothered.
Does he stay behind at training and practice his finishing or whatever?
Even his celebrations seem self-obsessed as if by scoring 1 goal he's proved someone wrong. He gives the impression of a player who does one good thing a game and thinks he's done enough.
He should watch Son. This guy is a God in South Korea, an absolute mega star, royalty! but you would not know it. He works his socks off for the team. Running hard to close down people, even in the dying minutes when winning. Total commitment to add to his ample talent.
Replying to the OP, if someone offered £50m and we sold, we would have under sold him. Any other player of his standing at any other club would go for a lot more.
Now I know he's been poor. And his attitude with the clubbing and the "illness" is upsetting for some people. But we should really be looking to get more for him. You've got Jacob Ramsey or Villa being touted for £50m. City have sold reserve players for £20m who've not gone to do any better than James Garner.
What we really should be looking to do is sell players sooner rather than holding onto them and make better purchases. We have to stop over paying for players really and get better at selling out players for what others seem to do for similar players.
Say we get £70/80m on Rashford and then spend £60-70m of it on Olise what will that achieve exactly? Not even sure that improves us as Olise doing okay not amazing at Palace is hardly the same as doing it at a big club.
This is the issue. We won't spend the money well and everyone knows it. We never do.
I wouldn't trust ETH with another penny personally. He's a terrible judge of talent.
Rashford isn’t comparable to Son imo. Yes he has some basic attributes that are similar, most notably pace. But Son is superior in pretty much every aspect, especially his work rate and mentality which is incredibly poor with Rashford. Son is also a global superstar, far bigger than Rashford.
Maybe Rashford is worth more than £50m, definitely not based on 3 of his last 4 seasons though. Also to clubs outside the PL him being English means nothing and I’m not too sure how big a name/brand he is outside of the UK? He rarely plays for England in recent years and hasn’t done much in the CL. He’s big for United because he’s a local lad but outside of that I don’t think he’s a big name that clubs are desperate for.
Let's be honest, most players aren't comparable to Son. Not all players are made to be the main focus of a club and can cope with that.
At Spurs, Kane initially hid that from Son somewhat, but Son was use to being the main man from his profile with South Korea, and he just has the right mentality for that, alongside the talent to back it up, when Kane did leave.
Rashford has always been a streaky player, and his actions with helping the kids etc raised his profile - at that time, most of the country were wanting him to be 'the' player, and whilst he is good, he is unfortunately not that good.
However, his recent efforts / behaviour have been particularly worrying. Some fans are understandably fed up with him, but I still see him as a player who can offer us something, but he needs to sort himself out, but also needs a manager to help him with that.
I saw on Reddit a p-rnstar claimed he ‘slid into her DMs’ but she didn’t even reply. Imagine being Rashford and trying to hit on a p-rnstar and she ignores you, lol.
Rashford doesn't have the motivation or drive to be the best, as soon as he got his new contract, his performance dropped considerably.
Some fans are completely blinded and can't seem to accept that maybe he's not that good...and never will be. Since his debut, he's never consistently played at the top of his game for two consecutive seasons, his stats are actually similar to Martial. Its always one good season followed by a below average one. Other than his pace, he doesn't really offer much else. A slightly better Theo Wolcott.
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 1 hour, 12 minutes ago
Say we get £70/80m on Rashford and then spend £60-70m of it on Olise what will that achieve exactly? Not even sure that improves us as Olise doing okay not amazing at Palace is hardly the same as doing it at a big club.
This is the issue. We won't spend the money well and everyone knows it. We never do.
I wouldn't trust ETH with another penny personally. He's a terrible judge of talent.
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We have no idea what our recruitment is going to look like going forward with all the changes at the top.
According the Ducker Rashford was fined £650k for the Belfast incident. Glad he’s accepted and moved on, let’s hope he actually puts some effort into games next.
He’s an exceptional striker of the ball and has an issue incredible turn of pace but his work rate and disciplinary record are getting worse from what I can see.
Utd won’t sell him though I don’t think.
Hopefully things sre going to change now that Ineos have their feet the table. Nobody can predict what they will bring regarding recruitment and contracts. They must have plan though. Who knows if that includes alk the current staff and players. We will have to wait to see what unfolds. We need to see an improvement in attitude and effort from everybody not just Rashford that is for sure. Hes way down the list of drastic action required.
Is he, I'd say he's quite high up. He's one of the longest serving players, our highest paid player and arguably our best performer last season and this season he's been terrible and doesn't look remotely interested. This is now the second time he's gone against the manager's wishes and partied this season, no one else is doing that as far as I'm aware.
Onana needs time and a better defence ahead of him, our whole defence should improve with Martinez back, Casemiro needs to impove but is only just back from injury, Hojlund is still incredibly young and shouldn't be leading the line for a club our size and Greenwood has been moved on. I've got concerns over Antony but he at least looks like he's trying, his problem is that he isn't that good and isn't going to get any better. Our own scouts valued him at £25m a couple months before we spunked £90m on him and that's exactly what he is, a Championship/bottom half PL player.
Depends if we want to change our style of football. Rashford is a major issue with trying to play a style with high pressing that wants to keep possession. Bruno’s also a problem in this regard, but not as big an issue as Rashford.
I would put Erik TH nearer the top of the list of drastic action required than Rashford. What are they going to do with him and the football managent structure to facilitate a change in form, style of play and player attitude. We are stuck with most of these players for a while for all the reasons we mull over but somehow ineos need to call a differnt tune on the pitch and it needs to happen pretty soon.
Rashford is one of the reasons that ETH has decided against trying to implement that style of football, though. If he’s replaced with someone that wants to change it then Rashford still represents a big problem.
Rashford is a problem right now, he wasnt last season. He saved last season. You can write a list of players who are as much as a problem as Rashford. It would include most of them. In fact I cant really see one that isnt a Rashfordesque problem for ineos to deal with.
He was a big problem regarding the style of football, despite his form. He just isn’t capable of playing that way, and it forces us to play to his strengths, especially when he’s actually playing well because he’s our main source of goals. There’s lots of problems with the team, but Rashford is a major one because of his status at the club. The same is true of Bruno Fernandes.
Thats it. He is judged by his status as the manc in man united and with Bruno as Uniteds 2 best and creative players. Who we all expect both to deliver at the business end of the pitch evey game. Even when all other players in the team around them are playing equally crap. There are many others in that team who also dont suit our style of play ..whatever that actually is. Its just moments atm. And other senior players should stand up and be counted as much as rash and Bruno.
Who are these other senior players though?
Bruno still does far more for the team than Rashford, Shaw who when fit plays well. Varane, Casemiro and Eriksen who were always short term fixes and will be gone soon. Slabhead who isn't good enough and will also be sold most likely.
Rashord is our second longest serving player after Shaw and the highest paid, because of that he is expected to lead by example but isn't. No other player is going out getting sh-t faced.
comment by Kobbie The King Mainoo (U10026)
posted 1 hour, 27 minutes ago
Rashford is one of the reasons that ETH has decided against trying to implement that style of football, though. If he’s replaced with someone that wants to change it then Rashford still represents a big problem.
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Rashford is the one player that save this job last season you melon.
Of course he's going to try and fit him in. The others didn't save his bacon last year. Marcus did.
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
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comment by Kobbie The King Mainoo (U10026)
posted 1 hour, 27 minutes ago
Rashford is one of the reasons that ETH has decided against trying to implement that style of football, though. If he’s replaced with someone that wants to change it then Rashford still represents a big problem.
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Rashford is the one player that save this job last season you melon.
Of course he's going to try and fit him in. The others didn't save his bacon last year. Marcus did.
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posted on 29/1/24
comment by Vengeance of Kungfu Bao Bun (#EthIn) (U23079)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
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comment by Kobbie The King Mainoo (U10026)
posted 18 seconds ago
Not really is it? I said they'd never work out rather than predicting the day they'd leave.
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You were predicting they’d be sold every summer and they never were.
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They should have been. 😂
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Moron!
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Anderson ended up in the second division in Brazil not long after leaving us. Pogba couldnt stay fit and didn't care a jot when he was anyway. He's since been banned for taking illegal substances too just for the cherry on the cake.
I was a visionary.
posted on 29/1/24
Rashford has a 1 goal in every 3 games record for United over his career to date. That's actually a very good record given he's still only 26, he's been playing off the left quite a fair bit and the team has been largely a shambles.
It hold ups against quite a lot of quality players around Europe. Not in the absolutely world class bracket of course but still very competitive.
Don't understand why he gets the hate he does at times. it's so ridiculous.
posted on 30/1/24
It's more disappointment for me with Rashford.
He's the local lad playing for the team he supports so if he can't be bothered giving it 100% then other players may not either. We need him to be a leader and an example setter.
The thing is with Rashford is that he does have the tools to be a much better player than he's showing currently too. Let's hope he's had his blip and can discover some of last season's form in the run in.
posted on 30/1/24
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
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comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
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comment by Vengeance of Kungfu Bao Bun (#EthIn) (U23079)
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comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 28 seconds ago
Rashford will still be here next season. Those who want him gone badly need to prepare for it. He's been priced out of a lot of markets now.
Realistically it's down to PSG as I can't see him going to Saudia Arabia in a million years.
Rashford will be with us next season again so we need to get him back to himself and fast.
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Predictions again !
You're usually sheite at them, cherub.
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I'm actually quite good at them. See Anderson, Pogba and plenty others for reference.
ETH is going to lose his job before next summer. You're in complete denial about it. We are conceding two goals against 4th division teams with close to our strongest team out. He's not good enough.
You can always sell your ETH pillow on eBay mate.
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Deluded twonk!
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That's you mate.
Out of Europe. Out of top 4 race. Out of League cup. Scraping through FA cup against 4th division teams.
As I have been telling you for two months....you made such a stance about how he must stay that you won't be convinced in any shape or form that you're wrong.
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No one is arguing those points. You have gone full on Scholay you numbnut.
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You just can’t help yourself you fecking old cretin.
posted on 30/1/24
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 42 minutes ago
Rashford has a 1 goal in every 3 games record for United over his career to date. That's actually a very good record given he's still only 26, he's been playing off the left quite a fair bit and the team has been largely a shambles.
It hold ups against quite a lot of quality players around Europe. Not in the absolutely world class bracket of course but still very competitive.
Don't understand why he gets the hate he does at times. it's so ridiculous.
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As an observer I can see why he frustrates because he doesnt play any where near his highest level consistently, sulks, goes long periods in a funk, and any player knows if things aren't working then do the basics right, hard work, effort are needed. You dont really see that on the pitch so you assume he's not bothered.
Does he stay behind at training and practice his finishing or whatever?
Even his celebrations seem self-obsessed as if by scoring 1 goal he's proved someone wrong. He gives the impression of a player who does one good thing a game and thinks he's done enough.
He should watch Son. This guy is a God in South Korea, an absolute mega star, royalty! but you would not know it. He works his socks off for the team. Running hard to close down people, even in the dying minutes when winning. Total commitment to add to his ample talent.
posted on 30/1/24
Replying to the OP, if someone offered £50m and we sold, we would have under sold him. Any other player of his standing at any other club would go for a lot more.
Now I know he's been poor. And his attitude with the clubbing and the "illness" is upsetting for some people. But we should really be looking to get more for him. You've got Jacob Ramsey or Villa being touted for £50m. City have sold reserve players for £20m who've not gone to do any better than James Garner.
What we really should be looking to do is sell players sooner rather than holding onto them and make better purchases. We have to stop over paying for players really and get better at selling out players for what others seem to do for similar players.
posted on 30/1/24
Say we get £70/80m on Rashford and then spend £60-70m of it on Olise what will that achieve exactly? Not even sure that improves us as Olise doing okay not amazing at Palace is hardly the same as doing it at a big club.
This is the issue. We won't spend the money well and everyone knows it. We never do.
I wouldn't trust ETH with another penny personally. He's a terrible judge of talent.
posted on 30/1/24
Rashford isn’t comparable to Son imo. Yes he has some basic attributes that are similar, most notably pace. But Son is superior in pretty much every aspect, especially his work rate and mentality which is incredibly poor with Rashford. Son is also a global superstar, far bigger than Rashford.
Maybe Rashford is worth more than £50m, definitely not based on 3 of his last 4 seasons though. Also to clubs outside the PL him being English means nothing and I’m not too sure how big a name/brand he is outside of the UK? He rarely plays for England in recent years and hasn’t done much in the CL. He’s big for United because he’s a local lad but outside of that I don’t think he’s a big name that clubs are desperate for.
posted on 30/1/24
Let's be honest, most players aren't comparable to Son. Not all players are made to be the main focus of a club and can cope with that.
At Spurs, Kane initially hid that from Son somewhat, but Son was use to being the main man from his profile with South Korea, and he just has the right mentality for that, alongside the talent to back it up, when Kane did leave.
Rashford has always been a streaky player, and his actions with helping the kids etc raised his profile - at that time, most of the country were wanting him to be 'the' player, and whilst he is good, he is unfortunately not that good.
However, his recent efforts / behaviour have been particularly worrying. Some fans are understandably fed up with him, but I still see him as a player who can offer us something, but he needs to sort himself out, but also needs a manager to help him with that.
posted on 30/1/24
I saw on Reddit a p-rnstar claimed he ‘slid into her DMs’ but she didn’t even reply. Imagine being Rashford and trying to hit on a p-rnstar and she ignores you, lol.
posted on 30/1/24
Rashford doesn't have the motivation or drive to be the best, as soon as he got his new contract, his performance dropped considerably.
Some fans are completely blinded and can't seem to accept that maybe he's not that good...and never will be. Since his debut, he's never consistently played at the top of his game for two consecutive seasons, his stats are actually similar to Martial. Its always one good season followed by a below average one. Other than his pace, he doesn't really offer much else. A slightly better Theo Wolcott.
posted on 30/1/24
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 1 hour, 12 minutes ago
Say we get £70/80m on Rashford and then spend £60-70m of it on Olise what will that achieve exactly? Not even sure that improves us as Olise doing okay not amazing at Palace is hardly the same as doing it at a big club.
This is the issue. We won't spend the money well and everyone knows it. We never do.
I wouldn't trust ETH with another penny personally. He's a terrible judge of talent.
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We have no idea what our recruitment is going to look like going forward with all the changes at the top.
posted on 30/1/24
According the Ducker Rashford was fined £650k for the Belfast incident. Glad he’s accepted and moved on, let’s hope he actually puts some effort into games next.
posted on 30/1/24
He’s an exceptional striker of the ball and has an issue incredible turn of pace but his work rate and disciplinary record are getting worse from what I can see.
Utd won’t sell him though I don’t think.
posted on 30/1/24
Hopefully things sre going to change now that Ineos have their feet the table. Nobody can predict what they will bring regarding recruitment and contracts. They must have plan though. Who knows if that includes alk the current staff and players. We will have to wait to see what unfolds. We need to see an improvement in attitude and effort from everybody not just Rashford that is for sure. Hes way down the list of drastic action required.
posted on 30/1/24
Is he, I'd say he's quite high up. He's one of the longest serving players, our highest paid player and arguably our best performer last season and this season he's been terrible and doesn't look remotely interested. This is now the second time he's gone against the manager's wishes and partied this season, no one else is doing that as far as I'm aware.
Onana needs time and a better defence ahead of him, our whole defence should improve with Martinez back, Casemiro needs to impove but is only just back from injury, Hojlund is still incredibly young and shouldn't be leading the line for a club our size and Greenwood has been moved on. I've got concerns over Antony but he at least looks like he's trying, his problem is that he isn't that good and isn't going to get any better. Our own scouts valued him at £25m a couple months before we spunked £90m on him and that's exactly what he is, a Championship/bottom half PL player.
posted on 30/1/24
Depends if we want to change our style of football. Rashford is a major issue with trying to play a style with high pressing that wants to keep possession. Bruno’s also a problem in this regard, but not as big an issue as Rashford.
posted on 30/1/24
I would put Erik TH nearer the top of the list of drastic action required than Rashford. What are they going to do with him and the football managent structure to facilitate a change in form, style of play and player attitude. We are stuck with most of these players for a while for all the reasons we mull over but somehow ineos need to call a differnt tune on the pitch and it needs to happen pretty soon.
posted on 30/1/24
Rashford is one of the reasons that ETH has decided against trying to implement that style of football, though. If he’s replaced with someone that wants to change it then Rashford still represents a big problem.
posted on 30/1/24
Rashford is a problem right now, he wasnt last season. He saved last season. You can write a list of players who are as much as a problem as Rashford. It would include most of them. In fact I cant really see one that isnt a Rashfordesque problem for ineos to deal with.
posted on 30/1/24
He was a big problem regarding the style of football, despite his form. He just isn’t capable of playing that way, and it forces us to play to his strengths, especially when he’s actually playing well because he’s our main source of goals. There’s lots of problems with the team, but Rashford is a major one because of his status at the club. The same is true of Bruno Fernandes.
posted on 30/1/24
Thats it. He is judged by his status as the manc in man united and with Bruno as Uniteds 2 best and creative players. Who we all expect both to deliver at the business end of the pitch evey game. Even when all other players in the team around them are playing equally crap. There are many others in that team who also dont suit our style of play ..whatever that actually is. Its just moments atm. And other senior players should stand up and be counted as much as rash and Bruno.
posted on 30/1/24
Who are these other senior players though?
Bruno still does far more for the team than Rashford, Shaw who when fit plays well. Varane, Casemiro and Eriksen who were always short term fixes and will be gone soon. Slabhead who isn't good enough and will also be sold most likely.
Rashord is our second longest serving player after Shaw and the highest paid, because of that he is expected to lead by example but isn't. No other player is going out getting sh-t faced.
posted on 30/1/24
comment by Kobbie The King Mainoo (U10026)
posted 1 hour, 27 minutes ago
Rashford is one of the reasons that ETH has decided against trying to implement that style of football, though. If he’s replaced with someone that wants to change it then Rashford still represents a big problem.
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Rashford is the one player that save this job last season you melon.
Of course he's going to try and fit him in. The others didn't save his bacon last year. Marcus did.
posted on 30/1/24
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 18 minutes ago
comment by Kobbie The King Mainoo (U10026)
posted 1 hour, 27 minutes ago
Rashford is one of the reasons that ETH has decided against trying to implement that style of football, though. If he’s replaced with someone that wants to change it then Rashford still represents a big problem.
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Rashford is the one player that save this job last season you melon.
Of course he's going to try and fit him in. The others didn't save his bacon last year. Marcus did.
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Irrelevant to the point.
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