I have no issue with the subs when we win? Rashy was tired and maybe not working as hard as he needed to be ?
If honest I don't know but it worked out in the end?
OP. How do you explain McT being a shocking sub?
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 11 minutes ago
OP. How do you explain McT being a shocking sub?
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Good call! 🍿
McT was a good sub as Cas was near getting another booking. The rest of the subs I thought were questionable.
Maybe not the best subs but then our bench isn’t exactly blessed with great options either.
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 21 minutes ago
OP. How do you explain McT being a shocking sub?
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And this is everything wrong with football today. All we look at is stats. He scored but we lost control of the middle of that park when he came on. We also conceded 2! Not saying this is his fault however that sub in itself I don’t see it as a good one.
I am on the coach now back down from the game and a lot of people agree. Ultimately fantastic result.
Mainoo what a player!
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 21 minutes ago
OP. How do you explain McT being a shocking sub?
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And this is everything wrong with football today. All we look at is stats. He scored but we lost control of the middle of that park when he came on. We also conceded 2! Not saying this is his fault however that sub in itself I don’t see it as a good one.
I am on the coach now back down from the game and a lot of people agree. Ultimately fantastic result.
Mainoo what a player!
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I think if Cas wasn't already on a yellow he'd have probably left him on. But I can see why he took him off. Especially after he gave the penalty away.
I didn't like the Martinez substitution and even less bringing Evans on. We just invited them on.
But yes, Mainoo looks a serious talent.
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 21 minutes ago
OP. How do you explain McT being a shocking sub?
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And this is everything wrong with football today. All we look at is stats. He scored but we lost control of the middle of that park when he came on. We also conceded 2! Not saying this is his fault however that sub in itself I don’t see it as a good one.
I am on the coach now back down from the game and a lot of people agree. Ultimately fantastic result.
Mainoo what a player!
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“And this is everything wrong with football today. All we look at is stats.”
Is your assumption based on stats?
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 21 minutes ago
OP. How do you explain McT being a shocking sub?
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And this is everything wrong with football today. All we look at is stats. He scored but we lost control of the middle of that park when he came on. We also conceded 2! Not saying this is his fault however that sub in itself I don’t see it as a good one.
“I am on the coach now back down from the game and a lot of people agree.” Southerners eh!
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 7 hours, 44 minutes ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 21 minutes ago
OP. How do you explain McT being a shocking sub?
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And this is everything wrong with football today. All we look at is stats. He scored but we lost control of the middle of that park when he came on. We also conceded 2! Not saying this is his fault however that sub in itself I don’t see it as a good one.
I am on the coach now back down from the game and a lot of people agree. Ultimately fantastic result.
Mainoo what a player!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The irony of Scholay dismissing stats.
The last two substitutes were a bit too defensive and he really should be learning his lesson about this... Certainly not the first time we've seen an overload of defensive players brought on to defend a lead, then just get overrun.
But the cardinal sin is the way we approached that corner when 3-2 up... One of the daftest moves i've ever seen and you could see their goal coming as soon as Antony dithered around the box.
They all made sense apart from subbing Garnacho. Garnacho was an effective out ball, if he needed to sub anyone for Evans it should have been for Bruno.
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 2 hours, 41 minutes ago
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 7 hours, 44 minutes ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 21 minutes ago
OP. How do you explain McT being a shocking sub?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
And this is everything wrong with football today. All we look at is stats. He scored but we lost control of the middle of that park when he came on. We also conceded 2! Not saying this is his fault however that sub in itself I don’t see it as a good one.
I am on the coach now back down from the game and a lot of people agree. Ultimately fantastic result.
Mainoo what a player!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The irony of Scholay dismissing stats.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Explain the irony to me?
To apply thought here rather than let me have a go at Scholay, every one that understands the game of football knows that Mctominay is a diabolical midfielder for our ambitions. Mctominay came on and we conceded two goals. I say again not entirely his fault, however it was clear to see we lost our shape in the middle.
But let me break it down for you further, Mctominay could have started that game and probably scored even 1 more goal, I am confident we would've also conceded way more from Wolves with a midfield of Mctominay and Mainoo. So yes his stats amazing. The result, I will let you take a guess.
comment by Ji Sung Park's Cousin - The tapering of the despair squid (U2958)
posted 55 minutes ago
The last two substitutes were a bit too defensive and he really should be learning his lesson about this... Certainly not the first time we've seen an overload of defensive players brought on to defend a lead, then just get overrun.
But the cardinal sin is the way we approached that corner when 3-2 up... One of the daftest moves i've ever seen and you could see their goal coming as soon as Antony dithered around the box.
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How Amad is not getting games and Antony this fool is getting minutes is baffling. Very nice feeling getting a last minute winner. This manager for me still has to go!
If we play like that first half for the rest of the season then i'd start to believe in his methods... But that's a big if.
comment by Ji Sung Park's Cousin - The tapering of the despair squid (U2958)
posted 1 hour, 21 minutes ago
The last two substitutes were a bit too defensive and he really should be learning his lesson about this... Certainly not the first time we've seen an overload of defensive players brought on to defend a lead, then just get overrun.
But the cardinal sin is the way we approached that corner when 3-2 up... One of the daftest moves i've ever seen and you could see their goal coming as soon as Antony dithered around the box.
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Those were my main two issues. Too many defenders on the pitch - you are just inviting the opposition to batter you. Then we get hit on the counter from a corner.
If you are going to put so many fecking defenders on the pitch you can't be getting opened up like that so easily.
I personally wouldn't have taken Rashford of either, as I thought he still looked a threat.
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 26 minutes ago
comment by Ji Sung Park's Cousin - The tapering of the despair squid (U2958)
posted 55 minutes ago
The last two substitutes were a bit too defensive and he really should be learning his lesson about this... Certainly not the first time we've seen an overload of defensive players brought on to defend a lead, then just get overrun.
But the cardinal sin is the way we approached that corner when 3-2 up... One of the daftest moves i've ever seen and you could see their goal coming as soon as Antony dithered around the box.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
How Amad is not getting games and Antony this fool is getting minutes is baffling. Very nice feeling getting a last minute winner. This manager for me still has to go!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Madness. I was expecting him to go out on loan and apparently has asked the club to allow him to return to Sunderland for the remained of the season. But that hasn't happened. Maybe that means he will get some game time? But I really don't understand what we are doing with him at the moment.
comment by Ji Sung Park's Cousin - Mentality Moles (U2958)
posted 6 minutes ago
If we play like that first half for the rest of the season then i'd start to believe in his methods... But that's a big if.
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Problem is we will only do it for first half of every game. And lose half of the games.
I'll just watch the first halves from now on and never look at the result or table!
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 5 hours, 44 minutes ago
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 2 hours, 41 minutes ago
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 7 hours, 44 minutes ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 21 minutes ago
OP. How do you explain McT being a shocking sub?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
And this is everything wrong with football today. All we look at is stats. He scored but we lost control of the middle of that park when he came on. We also conceded 2! Not saying this is his fault however that sub in itself I don’t see it as a good one.
I am on the coach now back down from the game and a lot of people agree. Ultimately fantastic result.
Mainoo what a player!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The irony of Scholay dismissing stats.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Explain the irony to me?
To apply thought here rather than let me have a go at Scholay, every one that understands the game of football knows that Mctominay is a diabolical midfielder for our ambitions. Mctominay came on and we conceded two goals. I say again not entirely his fault, however it was clear to see we lost our shape in the middle.
But let me break it down for you further, Mctominay could have started that game and probably scored even 1 more goal, I am confident we would've also conceded way more from Wolves with a midfield of Mctominay and Mainoo. So yes his stats amazing. The result, I will let you take a guess.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I totally agree with you. You are correct.
But there is irony in you saying that.
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posted on 1/2/24
I have no issue with the subs when we win? Rashy was tired and maybe not working as hard as he needed to be ?
If honest I don't know but it worked out in the end?
posted on 1/2/24
OP. How do you explain McT being a shocking sub?
posted on 1/2/24
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 11 minutes ago
OP. How do you explain McT being a shocking sub?
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Good call! 🍿
posted on 1/2/24
McT was a good sub as Cas was near getting another booking. The rest of the subs I thought were questionable.
posted on 1/2/24
Maybe not the best subs but then our bench isn’t exactly blessed with great options either.
posted on 1/2/24
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 21 minutes ago
OP. How do you explain McT being a shocking sub?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
And this is everything wrong with football today. All we look at is stats. He scored but we lost control of the middle of that park when he came on. We also conceded 2! Not saying this is his fault however that sub in itself I don’t see it as a good one.
I am on the coach now back down from the game and a lot of people agree. Ultimately fantastic result.
Mainoo what a player!
posted on 1/2/24
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 21 minutes ago
OP. How do you explain McT being a shocking sub?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
And this is everything wrong with football today. All we look at is stats. He scored but we lost control of the middle of that park when he came on. We also conceded 2! Not saying this is his fault however that sub in itself I don’t see it as a good one.
I am on the coach now back down from the game and a lot of people agree. Ultimately fantastic result.
Mainoo what a player!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I think if Cas wasn't already on a yellow he'd have probably left him on. But I can see why he took him off. Especially after he gave the penalty away.
I didn't like the Martinez substitution and even less bringing Evans on. We just invited them on.
But yes, Mainoo looks a serious talent.
posted on 1/2/24
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 21 minutes ago
OP. How do you explain McT being a shocking sub?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
And this is everything wrong with football today. All we look at is stats. He scored but we lost control of the middle of that park when he came on. We also conceded 2! Not saying this is his fault however that sub in itself I don’t see it as a good one.
I am on the coach now back down from the game and a lot of people agree. Ultimately fantastic result.
Mainoo what a player!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
“And this is everything wrong with football today. All we look at is stats.”
Is your assumption based on stats?
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 21 minutes ago
OP. How do you explain McT being a shocking sub?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
And this is everything wrong with football today. All we look at is stats. He scored but we lost control of the middle of that park when he came on. We also conceded 2! Not saying this is his fault however that sub in itself I don’t see it as a good one.
“I am on the coach now back down from the game and a lot of people agree.” Southerners eh!
posted on 2/2/24
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 7 hours, 44 minutes ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 21 minutes ago
OP. How do you explain McT being a shocking sub?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
And this is everything wrong with football today. All we look at is stats. He scored but we lost control of the middle of that park when he came on. We also conceded 2! Not saying this is his fault however that sub in itself I don’t see it as a good one.
I am on the coach now back down from the game and a lot of people agree. Ultimately fantastic result.
Mainoo what a player!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The irony of Scholay dismissing stats.
posted on 2/2/24
The last two substitutes were a bit too defensive and he really should be learning his lesson about this... Certainly not the first time we've seen an overload of defensive players brought on to defend a lead, then just get overrun.
But the cardinal sin is the way we approached that corner when 3-2 up... One of the daftest moves i've ever seen and you could see their goal coming as soon as Antony dithered around the box.
posted on 2/2/24
They all made sense apart from subbing Garnacho. Garnacho was an effective out ball, if he needed to sub anyone for Evans it should have been for Bruno.
posted on 2/2/24
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 2 hours, 41 minutes ago
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 7 hours, 44 minutes ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 21 minutes ago
OP. How do you explain McT being a shocking sub?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
And this is everything wrong with football today. All we look at is stats. He scored but we lost control of the middle of that park when he came on. We also conceded 2! Not saying this is his fault however that sub in itself I don’t see it as a good one.
I am on the coach now back down from the game and a lot of people agree. Ultimately fantastic result.
Mainoo what a player!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The irony of Scholay dismissing stats.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Explain the irony to me?
To apply thought here rather than let me have a go at Scholay, every one that understands the game of football knows that Mctominay is a diabolical midfielder for our ambitions. Mctominay came on and we conceded two goals. I say again not entirely his fault, however it was clear to see we lost our shape in the middle.
But let me break it down for you further, Mctominay could have started that game and probably scored even 1 more goal, I am confident we would've also conceded way more from Wolves with a midfield of Mctominay and Mainoo. So yes his stats amazing. The result, I will let you take a guess.
posted on 2/2/24
comment by Ji Sung Park's Cousin - The tapering of the despair squid (U2958)
posted 55 minutes ago
The last two substitutes were a bit too defensive and he really should be learning his lesson about this... Certainly not the first time we've seen an overload of defensive players brought on to defend a lead, then just get overrun.
But the cardinal sin is the way we approached that corner when 3-2 up... One of the daftest moves i've ever seen and you could see their goal coming as soon as Antony dithered around the box.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
How Amad is not getting games and Antony this fool is getting minutes is baffling. Very nice feeling getting a last minute winner. This manager for me still has to go!
posted on 2/2/24
If we play like that first half for the rest of the season then i'd start to believe in his methods... But that's a big if.
posted on 2/2/24
comment by Ji Sung Park's Cousin - The tapering of the despair squid (U2958)
posted 1 hour, 21 minutes ago
The last two substitutes were a bit too defensive and he really should be learning his lesson about this... Certainly not the first time we've seen an overload of defensive players brought on to defend a lead, then just get overrun.
But the cardinal sin is the way we approached that corner when 3-2 up... One of the daftest moves i've ever seen and you could see their goal coming as soon as Antony dithered around the box.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Those were my main two issues. Too many defenders on the pitch - you are just inviting the opposition to batter you. Then we get hit on the counter from a corner.
If you are going to put so many fecking defenders on the pitch you can't be getting opened up like that so easily.
I personally wouldn't have taken Rashford of either, as I thought he still looked a threat.
posted on 2/2/24
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 26 minutes ago
comment by Ji Sung Park's Cousin - The tapering of the despair squid (U2958)
posted 55 minutes ago
The last two substitutes were a bit too defensive and he really should be learning his lesson about this... Certainly not the first time we've seen an overload of defensive players brought on to defend a lead, then just get overrun.
But the cardinal sin is the way we approached that corner when 3-2 up... One of the daftest moves i've ever seen and you could see their goal coming as soon as Antony dithered around the box.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
How Amad is not getting games and Antony this fool is getting minutes is baffling. Very nice feeling getting a last minute winner. This manager for me still has to go!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Madness. I was expecting him to go out on loan and apparently has asked the club to allow him to return to Sunderland for the remained of the season. But that hasn't happened. Maybe that means he will get some game time? But I really don't understand what we are doing with him at the moment.
posted on 2/2/24
comment by Ji Sung Park's Cousin - Mentality Moles (U2958)
posted 6 minutes ago
If we play like that first half for the rest of the season then i'd start to believe in his methods... But that's a big if.
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Problem is we will only do it for first half of every game. And lose half of the games.
posted on 2/2/24
I'll just watch the first halves from now on and never look at the result or table!
posted on 2/2/24
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 5 hours, 44 minutes ago
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 2 hours, 41 minutes ago
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 7 hours, 44 minutes ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 21 minutes ago
OP. How do you explain McT being a shocking sub?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
And this is everything wrong with football today. All we look at is stats. He scored but we lost control of the middle of that park when he came on. We also conceded 2! Not saying this is his fault however that sub in itself I don’t see it as a good one.
I am on the coach now back down from the game and a lot of people agree. Ultimately fantastic result.
Mainoo what a player!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The irony of Scholay dismissing stats.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Explain the irony to me?
To apply thought here rather than let me have a go at Scholay, every one that understands the game of football knows that Mctominay is a diabolical midfielder for our ambitions. Mctominay came on and we conceded two goals. I say again not entirely his fault, however it was clear to see we lost our shape in the middle.
But let me break it down for you further, Mctominay could have started that game and probably scored even 1 more goal, I am confident we would've also conceded way more from Wolves with a midfield of Mctominay and Mainoo. So yes his stats amazing. The result, I will let you take a guess.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I totally agree with you. You are correct.
But there is irony in you saying that.
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