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FWIW and I know that aint much.
It aint entitlement, its standards, football more an more every day is a money game and if you have the most you should be the best, if your not questions need to be asked why.
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Standards like 11 league wins in 12 seasons and 5 trebles over the same period? Or standards like just don't ever lose a game?
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Standards like not accepting appointing the highest paid manager ever in Scotland, having the biggest financial reserves in the league by miles and getting a team that looks flat, lacking hunger, are unbalanced and the poor performances now being as often as the good ones.
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Yet Celtic this season under same manager will finish on a higher points total this season than they did in 2/3 of his seasons in his previous tenure as Manager when he was worshipped as a God. No concerns about standards then.
A points total that will likely be higher than half of the seasons they won the league during their most recent 9 in a row win. No calls for the board to go then.
If standards were the issue changes would have been made long ago. It's only a concern when Rangers are in a position to compete. We all know if Clement had continued Beale's run and Celtic were producing the same results and performances but were 10 points ahead there would be 0 mention of any of it.
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there were murmours of the football getting flat and no progression in europe under his tenure and not enough investment in the team back then also. iirc.
they gained their lead in the league largely down to two scrappy wins against us. One against a poor Beale team and one at home against Clement. If either game finished a draw I think most fans would say that was a fair result in those games.
They have essentially possibly dropped an 8 points lead to us in the league and we had zero influence over it (ie no points we took off them)
Iv said from the get go on here they have looked flat and the season was never over for me.
If I can see they are flat and lacking in the other points I raised them im pretty sure they can.
If roles were reversed, I would be fuming at how things are progressing just now.
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comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 1 minute ago
FWIW and I know that aint much.
It aint entitlement, its standards, football more an more every day is a money game and if you have the most you should be the best, if your not questions need to be asked why.
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Standards like 11 league wins in 12 seasons and 5 trebles over the same period? Or standards like just don't ever lose a game?
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Standards like not accepting appointing the highest paid manager ever in Scotland, having the biggest financial reserves in the league by miles and getting a team that looks flat, lacking hunger, are unbalanced and the poor performances now being as often as the good ones.
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Yet Celtic this season under same manager will finish on a higher points total this season than they did in 2/3 of his seasons in his previous tenure as Manager when he was worshipped as a God. No concerns about standards then.
A points total that will likely be higher than half of the seasons they won the league during their most recent 9 in a row win. No calls for the board to go then.
If standards were the issue changes would have been made long ago. It's only a concern when Rangers are in a position to compete. We all know if Clement had continued Beale's run and Celtic were producing the same results and performances but were 10 points ahead there would be 0 mention of any of it.
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there were murmours of the football getting flat and no progression in europe under his tenure and not enough investment in the team back then also. iirc.
they gained their lead in the league largely down to two scrappy wins against us. One against a poor Beale team and one at home against Clement. If either game finished a draw I think most fans would say that was a fair result in those games.
They have essentially possibly dropped an 8 points lead to us in the league and we had zero influence over it (ie no points we took off them)
Iv said from the get go on here they have looked flat and the season was never over for me.
If I can see they are flat and lacking in the other points I raised them im pretty sure they can.
If roles were reversed, I would be fuming at how things are progressing just now.
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Ok so it sounds like you are saying the Manager is responsible? I don't disagree with that at all, I'm trying to understand where criticism of the board comes in to it.
The happy clappers on here have been praising their team all season thats to be expected.
the others that are a tad more sensible (whether they hate me or not on here) have been pointing out flaws in the team, the system, and the performances all season. Maybe not harking on (some have) but pointing it out.
Now the January window has closed and the last chance to try and do what most fans thought was needed has passed and I think deep down they can see right now the team that has been out on the park s lacking what it takes to win the league.
We all know if Clement had continued Beale's run and Celtic were producing the same results and performances but were 10 points ahead there would be 0 mention of any of it.
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If Clement had continued Beales run Celtic would be 15+ points ahead never mind 10.
Thank the lord for new manager bounce.
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FWIW and I know that aint much.
It aint entitlement, its standards, football more an more every day is a money game and if you have the most you should be the best, if your not questions need to be asked why.
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Standards like 11 league wins in 12 seasons and 5 trebles over the same period? Or standards like just don't ever lose a game?
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Standards like not accepting appointing the highest paid manager ever in Scotland, having the biggest financial reserves in the league by miles and getting a team that looks flat, lacking hunger, are unbalanced and the poor performances now being as often as the good ones.
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Yet Celtic this season under same manager will finish on a higher points total this season than they did in 2/3 of his seasons in his previous tenure as Manager when he was worshipped as a God. No concerns about standards then.
A points total that will likely be higher than half of the seasons they won the league during their most recent 9 in a row win. No calls for the board to go then.
If standards were the issue changes would have been made long ago. It's only a concern when Rangers are in a position to compete. We all know if Clement had continued Beale's run and Celtic were producing the same results and performances but were 10 points ahead there would be 0 mention of any of it.
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there were murmours of the football getting flat and no progression in europe under his tenure and not enough investment in the team back then also. iirc.
they gained their lead in the league largely down to two scrappy wins against us. One against a poor Beale team and one at home against Clement. If either game finished a draw I think most fans would say that was a fair result in those games.
They have essentially possibly dropped an 8 points lead to us in the league and we had zero influence over it (ie no points we took off them)
Iv said from the get go on here they have looked flat and the season was never over for me.
If I can see they are flat and lacking in the other points I raised them im pretty sure they can.
If roles were reversed, I would be fuming at how things are progressing just now.
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Ok so it sounds like you are saying the Manager is responsible? I don't disagree with that at all, I'm trying to understand where criticism of the board comes in to it.
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Oh he is a good part of the reason.
I said from day 1 on here that Kyogo wouldnt suit his team. Mentioned it many times. gave the reasons why and some kinda evidence backing it up.
If I could see it Rodgers shoulda been able to see it. Yet still made him no 1 striker in his preferred system.
He had to either use the correct striker for his system or change his system to suit Kyogo.
he should have figured out a way to get far far more outa Kyogo than he has.
But then the finger can also be pointed at the board for not bringing in what he needs.
ffs Wums everywhere ....
anyways ...what about that new camera perspective for the Arsenal liverpool game yesterday , hated it at first but once you got used to it it was superb .
Got a real sense of the time and space on the park and the shape of both teams in transitions ...was brilliant !
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You can tell it’s Monday morning eh
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you can tell we must be going well when we win without a penalty. I can see us not getting a penalty again for another 9 games.
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Funniest thing I’ve heard today 😂😂😂
Congratulations of Big Phil for winning January Manager of the Month.
That said I am surprised they gave him it - have they not heard of new manager bounce?
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FWIW and I know that aint much.
It aint entitlement, its standards, football more an more every day is a money game and if you have the most you should be the best, if your not questions need to be asked why.
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Standards like 11 league wins in 12 seasons and 5 trebles over the same period? Or standards like just don't ever lose a game?
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Standards like not accepting appointing the highest paid manager ever in Scotland, having the biggest financial reserves in the league by miles and getting a team that looks flat, lacking hunger, are unbalanced and the poor performances now being as often as the good ones.
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Yet Celtic this season under same manager will finish on a higher points total this season than they did in 2/3 of his seasons in his previous tenure as Manager when he was worshipped as a God. No concerns about standards then.
A points total that will likely be higher than half of the seasons they won the league during their most recent 9 in a row win. No calls for the board to go then.
If standards were the issue changes would have been made long ago. It's only a concern when Rangers are in a position to compete. We all know if Clement had continued Beale's run and Celtic were producing the same results and performances but were 10 points ahead there would be 0 mention of any of it.
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there were murmours of the football getting flat and no progression in europe under his tenure and not enough investment in the team back then also. iirc.
they gained their lead in the league largely down to two scrappy wins against us. One against a poor Beale team and one at home against Clement. If either game finished a draw I think most fans would say that was a fair result in those games.
They have essentially possibly dropped an 8 points lead to us in the league and we had zero influence over it (ie no points we took off them)
Iv said from the get go on here they have looked flat and the season was never over for me.
If I can see they are flat and lacking in the other points I raised them im pretty sure they can.
If roles were reversed, I would be fuming at how things are progressing just now.
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Ok so it sounds like you are saying the Manager is responsible? I don't disagree with that at all, I'm trying to understand where criticism of the board comes in to it.
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Oh he is a good part of the reason.
I said from day 1 on here that Kyogo wouldnt suit his team. Mentioned it many times. gave the reasons why and some kinda evidence backing it up.
If I could see it Rodgers shoulda been able to see it. Yet still made him no 1 striker in his preferred system.
He had to either use the correct striker for his system or change his system to suit Kyogo.
he should have figured out a way to get far far more outa Kyogo than he has.
But then the finger can also be pointed at the board for not bringing in what he needs.
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I agree re the Manager, still think criticism is over the top given his results this season are better than previous seasons when he was worshipped but that's par for the course.
But I don't get the board stuff. Could they have spent more, possibly. But there are lots of reasons for not doing so. Still spent upwards of £25m I think this season overall and didn't lose much from a treble winning side. Is it that they didn't back the Manager or just that the Manager didn't use it wisely? After all he bought 3 centre backs for good money in there he doesn't seem to rate or play. You can't just keep asking for more money when the guys you buy don't work out.
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I agree re the Manager, still think criticism is over the top given his results this season are better than previous seasons when he was worshipped but that's par for the course.
But I don't get the board stuff. Could they have spent more, possibly. But there are lots of reasons for not doing so. Still spent upwards of £25m I think this season overall and didn't lose much from a treble winning side. Is it that they didn't back the Manager or just that the Manager didn't use it wisely? After all he bought 3 centre backs for good money in there he doesn't seem to rate or play. You can't just keep asking for more money when the guys you buy don't work out.
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cos fundamentally it comes down to the board, they are the ones that run the club.
they appoint the manager... or they should hire someone who can see what type of manager is needed to follow the previous one. They hire the recruitment team that should be set up to invest the money well.
if the team performs rotten the manager gets the stick.
If the club perform rotten then the board get the stick.
If both happen then a season capitulates.
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I agree re the Manager, still think criticism is over the top given his results this season are better than previous seasons when he was worshipped but that's par for the course.
But I don't get the board stuff. Could they have spent more, possibly. But there are lots of reasons for not doing so. Still spent upwards of £25m I think this season overall and didn't lose much from a treble winning side. Is it that they didn't back the Manager or just that the Manager didn't use it wisely? After all he bought 3 centre backs for good money in there he doesn't seem to rate or play. You can't just keep asking for more money when the guys you buy don't work out.
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cos fundamentally it comes down to the board, they are the ones that run the club.
they appoint the manager... or they should hire someone who can see what type of manager is needed to follow the previous one. They hire the recruitment team that should be set up to invest the money well.
if the team performs rotten the manager gets the stick.
If the club perform rotten then the board get the stick.
If both happen then a season capitulates.
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But are the club performing poorly? Celtic have been the best run club in the country by some way for years. They haven't really got any of the managerial calls wrong, albeit an argument over Lennon the last time. Getting Ange in was a masterstroke, replacing him with Rodgers is probably the best quality they could have got to backfill - emotions aside he ticked every box.
The club is in great shape and has won 5 trebles and 11 titles in 12 years. They have a transfer model that brings in steady income, all their best players on long term deals, a young squad with further income potential and perform well commercially.
So I don't see any argument for the club performing poorly or big decisions the board are getting wrong.
And lets not get excited here, Celtic are still top of the league and have won both OF games this season. They are still favourites for the title. It's far from a disaster situation they are in. We're not talking about something like 3 years ago when they were 20 points behind in February and losing left right and centre to St Mirren, Livi etc.
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I agree re the Manager, still think criticism is over the top given his results this season are better than previous seasons when he was worshipped but that's par for the course.
But I don't get the board stuff. Could they have spent more, possibly. But there are lots of reasons for not doing so. Still spent upwards of £25m I think this season overall and didn't lose much from a treble winning side. Is it that they didn't back the Manager or just that the Manager didn't use it wisely? After all he bought 3 centre backs for good money in there he doesn't seem to rate or play. You can't just keep asking for more money when the guys you buy don't work out.
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cos fundamentally it comes down to the board, they are the ones that run the club.
they appoint the manager... or they should hire someone who can see what type of manager is needed to follow the previous one. They hire the recruitment team that should be set up to invest the money well.
if the team performs rotten the manager gets the stick.
If the club perform rotten then the board get the stick.
If both happen then a season capitulates.
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But are the club performing poorly? Celtic have been the best run club in the country by some way for years. They haven't really got any of the managerial calls wrong, albeit an argument over Lennon the last time. Getting Ange in was a masterstroke, replacing him with Rodgers is probably the best quality they could have got to backfill - emotions aside he ticked every box.
The club is in great shape and has won 5 trebles and 11 titles in 12 years. They have a transfer model that brings in steady income, all their best players on long term deals, a young squad with further income potential and perform well commercially.
So I don't see any argument for the club performing poorly or big decisions the board are getting wrong.
And lets not get excited here, Celtic are still top of the league and have won both OF games this season. They are still favourites for the title. It's far from a disaster situation they are in. We're not talking about something like 3 years ago when they were 20 points behind in February and losing left right and centre to St Mirren, Livi etc.
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yes, they are flat on the park and have an unbalanced squad.
the recruitment team havent seemed to be able to identify the players required for the balance of the squad or the requirements of the manager.
Im quite excited, IMO we are favourites for the league, if we aint ahead by the time the split happens I will be disappointed.
Said it before, the board cannot gloat about money in the bank at AGMs then wonder why they are getting grief for spending it on a training facility with dubious value to the first team.
Rodgers may have ticked some boxes but there were big fooking Red Crosses too! The talent pool of available managers is enormous ffs.
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posted 22 minutes ago
Congratulations of Big Phil for winning January Manager of the Month.
That said I am surprised they gave him it - have they not heard of new manager bounce?
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suprised as well ....beat Dumbarton, Hibs , St mirren and Killie ?
Given the disparity in resource and wages you would think that is all standard fodder ...surely Hearts manager Naismith deserved it way more
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I agree re the Manager, still think criticism is over the top given his results this season are better than previous seasons when he was worshipped but that's par for the course.
But I don't get the board stuff. Could they have spent more, possibly. But there are lots of reasons for not doing so. Still spent upwards of £25m I think this season overall and didn't lose much from a treble winning side. Is it that they didn't back the Manager or just that the Manager didn't use it wisely? After all he bought 3 centre backs for good money in there he doesn't seem to rate or play. You can't just keep asking for more money when the guys you buy don't work out.
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cos fundamentally it comes down to the board, they are the ones that run the club.
they appoint the manager... or they should hire someone who can see what type of manager is needed to follow the previous one. They hire the recruitment team that should be set up to invest the money well.
if the team performs rotten the manager gets the stick.
If the club perform rotten then the board get the stick.
If both happen then a season capitulates.
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But are the club performing poorly? Celtic have been the best run club in the country by some way for years. They haven't really got any of the managerial calls wrong, albeit an argument over Lennon the last time. Getting Ange in was a masterstroke, replacing him with Rodgers is probably the best quality they could have got to backfill - emotions aside he ticked every box.
The club is in great shape and has won 5 trebles and 11 titles in 12 years. They have a transfer model that brings in steady income, all their best players on long term deals, a young squad with further income potential and perform well commercially.
So I don't see any argument for the club performing poorly or big decisions the board are getting wrong.
And lets not get excited here, Celtic are still top of the league and have won both OF games this season. They are still favourites for the title. It's far from a disaster situation they are in. We're not talking about something like 3 years ago when they were 20 points behind in February and losing left right and centre to St Mirren, Livi etc.
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yes, they are flat on the park and have an unbalanced squad.
the recruitment team havent seemed to be able to identify the players required for the balance of the squad or the requirements of the manager.
Im quite excited, IMO we are favourites for the league, if we aint ahead by the time the split happens I will be disappointed.
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I still think Celtic have the mental edge and experience of getting over the line over us. But definitely excited, would have bitten your hand off for this position when Beale left and momentum seems in our favour, along with the implosion from the other side meaning we seem a bit more settled at the moment. I think if we can get a points advantage of any kind it will be a really interesting run in.
comment by Silver (U6112)
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Said it before, the board cannot gloat about money in the bank at AGMs then wonder why they are getting grief for spending it on a training facility with dubious value to the first team.
Rodgers may have ticked some boxes but there were big fooking Red Crosses too! The talent pool of available managers is enormous ffs.
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This first part is true. It's a difficult one though because its a powerful statement to remind your rivals how much resource you have at your disposal. Goes down well with the support as well at the time. The problem comes when you get in to a battle and people then want you to use the resources you have bragged about having.
But equally if you spend £25m on an already dominant title winning squad you're backing your Manager and investing in progress. What happens on the park is up to the Manager after that in my eyes.
Im certainly not getting carried away but you cant deny we have a realistic shot at the title this season.
It looked done and dusted after the 3-1 Aberdeen game at Ibrox. Dud signings, a lengthy injury list, a manager who thinks he knows better than everyone else but was failing badly.
But since Phil has come in the momentum has been with us - the reduction in the points gap confirms that.
It didnt quite happen at parkhead but I am optimistic we can put in a performance in the next OF game.
Rangers cant get carried away and I believe Clement wont let them. He seems to have a steely eyed focus and going by the soundbites from the players they are getting the message.
It could go either way IMO but what I would say is that if it is Celtic who blink first and we can get top of the league then I feel there is a bigger chance of unrest from the fans and a collapse from the team.
Fingers crossed, eh!?
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I still think Celtic have the mental edge and experience of getting over the line over us. But definitely excited, would have bitten your hand off for this position when Beale left and momentum seems in our favour, along with the implosion from the other side meaning we seem a bit more settled at the moment. I think if we can get a points advantage of any kind it will be a really interesting run in.
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We have 7 of the next 10 games (including the OF) at home. Celtic have 6 of the next 9 away from home.
We can only blame ourselves if we dont hold a lead going into the break. I think we will get stronger and stronger as the season ends.
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I still think Celtic have the mental edge and experience of getting over the line over us. But definitely excited, would have bitten your hand off for this position when Beale left and momentum seems in our favour, along with the implosion from the other side meaning we seem a bit more settled at the moment. I think if we can get a points advantage of any kind it will be a really interesting run in.
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We have 7 of the next 10 games (including the OF) at home. Celtic have 6 of the next 9 away from home.
We can only blame ourselves if we dont hold a lead going into the break. I think we will get stronger and stronger as the season ends.
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Tbh at the moment there's an argument you would rather they played at home than away. But I take the point. Ultimately though until the next OF game in April we're still relying on them dropping points to get ahead, we could do everything we need to do and win every game up until then and still be second.
And I still think Celtic have more goals in them than us. It might not look like it just now but Kyogo, Maeda and Abada outscore Dessers, Matondo and McCausland without question.
You could argue Silva and Cortes change that but not sure Silva is full of goals and Cortes is an unknown at this stage.
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I still think Celtic have the mental edge and experience of getting over the line over us. But definitely excited, would have bitten your hand off for this position when Beale left and momentum seems in our favour, along with the implosion from the other side meaning we seem a bit more settled at the moment. I think if we can get a points advantage of any kind it will be a really interesting run in.
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We have 7 of the next 10 games (including the OF) at home. Celtic have 6 of the next 9 away from home.
We can only blame ourselves if we dont hold a lead going into the break. I think we will get stronger and stronger as the season ends.
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Tbh at the moment there's an argument you would rather they played at home than away. But I take the point. Ultimately though until the next OF game in April we're still relying on them dropping points to get ahead, we could do everything we need to do and win every game up until then and still be second.
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no we will be going into the old firm we should be level in games played. We are 2 goals behind in GD. every reason to expect we can be top going into that OF game
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And I still think Celtic have more goals in them than us. It might not look like it just now but Kyogo, Maeda and Abada outscore Dessers, Matondo and McCausland without question.
You could argue Silva and Cortes change that but not sure Silva is full of goals and Cortes is an unknown at this stage.
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Our defence has been better though - I think celtic will continue to concede marginally more.
We have the best keeper in the league and a pretty well drilled well established set of defenders.
Silvas goal at the weekend was the type Roofe might have scored. Thats exactly the kind of goal I was looking for from him. Pretty encouraging for me.
Also looks like Clement used the time away in January to work on our set pieces, with so many games it prob wasnt addressed til then. We look far more dangerous from corners especially since we came back.
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comment by Silver (U6112)
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Said it before, the board cannot gloat about money in the bank at AGMs then wonder why they are getting grief for spending it on a training facility with dubious value to the first team.
Rodgers may have ticked some boxes but there were big fooking Red Crosses too! The talent pool of available managers is enormous ffs.
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This first part is true. It's a difficult one though because its a powerful statement to remind your rivals how much resource you have at your disposal. Goes down well with the support as well at the time. The problem comes when you get in to a battle and people then want you to use the resources you have bragged about having.
But equally if you spend £25m on an already dominant title winning squad you're backing your Manager and investing in progress. What happens on the park is up to the Manager after that in my eyes.
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It is nearer £20m the last two windows and in that same period we’ve let >£30m of talent leave. That’s the issue, we have money to spend but are still net stuffing it away in the bank. We need to get recruitment right to keep spinning that plate and evidence suggests we ain’t?
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comment by Silver (U6112)
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Said it before, the board cannot gloat about money in the bank at AGMs then wonder why they are getting grief for spending it on a training facility with dubious value to the first team.
Rodgers may have ticked some boxes but there were big fooking Red Crosses too! The talent pool of available managers is enormous ffs.
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This first part is true. It's a difficult one though because its a powerful statement to remind your rivals how much resource you have at your disposal. Goes down well with the support as well at the time. The problem comes when you get in to a battle and people then want you to use the resources you have bragged about having.
But equally if you spend £25m on an already dominant title winning squad you're backing your Manager and investing in progress. What happens on the park is up to the Manager after that in my eyes.
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It is nearer £20m the last two windows and in that same period we’ve let >£30m of talent leave. That’s the issue, we have money to spend but are still net stuffing it away in the bank. We need to get recruitment right to keep spinning that plate and evidence suggests we ain’t?
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no fan is gonna react well when the bank balance is going up but the product on the park is going down.
what do you do though ? do you invest in BR or look elsewhere?
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FWIW and I know that aint much.
It aint entitlement, its standards, football more an more every day is a money game and if you have the most you should be the best, if your not questions need to be asked why.
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Standards like 11 league wins in 12 seasons and 5 trebles over the same period? Or standards like just don't ever lose a game?
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Standards like not accepting appointing the highest paid manager ever in Scotland, having the biggest financial reserves in the league by miles and getting a team that looks flat, lacking hunger, are unbalanced and the poor performances now being as often as the good ones.
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Yet Celtic this season under same manager will finish on a higher points total this season than they did in 2/3 of his seasons in his previous tenure as Manager when he was worshipped as a God. No concerns about standards then.
A points total that will likely be higher than half of the seasons they won the league during their most recent 9 in a row win. No calls for the board to go then.
If standards were the issue changes would have been made long ago. It's only a concern when Rangers are in a position to compete. We all know if Clement had continued Beale's run and Celtic were producing the same results and performances but were 10 points ahead there would be 0 mention of any of it.
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there were murmours of the football getting flat and no progression in europe under his tenure and not enough investment in the team back then also. iirc.
they gained their lead in the league largely down to two scrappy wins against us. One against a poor Beale team and one at home against Clement. If either game finished a draw I think most fans would say that was a fair result in those games.
They have essentially possibly dropped an 8 points lead to us in the league and we had zero influence over it (ie no points we took off them)
Iv said from the get go on here they have looked flat and the season was never over for me.
If I can see they are flat and lacking in the other points I raised them im pretty sure they can.
If roles were reversed, I would be fuming at how things are progressing just now.
posted on 5/2/24
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FWIW and I know that aint much.
It aint entitlement, its standards, football more an more every day is a money game and if you have the most you should be the best, if your not questions need to be asked why.
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Standards like 11 league wins in 12 seasons and 5 trebles over the same period? Or standards like just don't ever lose a game?
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Standards like not accepting appointing the highest paid manager ever in Scotland, having the biggest financial reserves in the league by miles and getting a team that looks flat, lacking hunger, are unbalanced and the poor performances now being as often as the good ones.
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Yet Celtic this season under same manager will finish on a higher points total this season than they did in 2/3 of his seasons in his previous tenure as Manager when he was worshipped as a God. No concerns about standards then.
A points total that will likely be higher than half of the seasons they won the league during their most recent 9 in a row win. No calls for the board to go then.
If standards were the issue changes would have been made long ago. It's only a concern when Rangers are in a position to compete. We all know if Clement had continued Beale's run and Celtic were producing the same results and performances but were 10 points ahead there would be 0 mention of any of it.
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there were murmours of the football getting flat and no progression in europe under his tenure and not enough investment in the team back then also. iirc.
they gained their lead in the league largely down to two scrappy wins against us. One against a poor Beale team and one at home against Clement. If either game finished a draw I think most fans would say that was a fair result in those games.
They have essentially possibly dropped an 8 points lead to us in the league and we had zero influence over it (ie no points we took off them)
Iv said from the get go on here they have looked flat and the season was never over for me.
If I can see they are flat and lacking in the other points I raised them im pretty sure they can.
If roles were reversed, I would be fuming at how things are progressing just now.
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Ok so it sounds like you are saying the Manager is responsible? I don't disagree with that at all, I'm trying to understand where criticism of the board comes in to it.
posted on 5/2/24
The happy clappers on here have been praising their team all season thats to be expected.
the others that are a tad more sensible (whether they hate me or not on here) have been pointing out flaws in the team, the system, and the performances all season. Maybe not harking on (some have) but pointing it out.
Now the January window has closed and the last chance to try and do what most fans thought was needed has passed and I think deep down they can see right now the team that has been out on the park s lacking what it takes to win the league.
posted on 5/2/24
We all know if Clement had continued Beale's run and Celtic were producing the same results and performances but were 10 points ahead there would be 0 mention of any of it.
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If Clement had continued Beales run Celtic would be 15+ points ahead never mind 10.
Thank the lord for new manager bounce.
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FWIW and I know that aint much.
It aint entitlement, its standards, football more an more every day is a money game and if you have the most you should be the best, if your not questions need to be asked why.
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Standards like 11 league wins in 12 seasons and 5 trebles over the same period? Or standards like just don't ever lose a game?
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Standards like not accepting appointing the highest paid manager ever in Scotland, having the biggest financial reserves in the league by miles and getting a team that looks flat, lacking hunger, are unbalanced and the poor performances now being as often as the good ones.
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Yet Celtic this season under same manager will finish on a higher points total this season than they did in 2/3 of his seasons in his previous tenure as Manager when he was worshipped as a God. No concerns about standards then.
A points total that will likely be higher than half of the seasons they won the league during their most recent 9 in a row win. No calls for the board to go then.
If standards were the issue changes would have been made long ago. It's only a concern when Rangers are in a position to compete. We all know if Clement had continued Beale's run and Celtic were producing the same results and performances but were 10 points ahead there would be 0 mention of any of it.
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there were murmours of the football getting flat and no progression in europe under his tenure and not enough investment in the team back then also. iirc.
they gained their lead in the league largely down to two scrappy wins against us. One against a poor Beale team and one at home against Clement. If either game finished a draw I think most fans would say that was a fair result in those games.
They have essentially possibly dropped an 8 points lead to us in the league and we had zero influence over it (ie no points we took off them)
Iv said from the get go on here they have looked flat and the season was never over for me.
If I can see they are flat and lacking in the other points I raised them im pretty sure they can.
If roles were reversed, I would be fuming at how things are progressing just now.
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Ok so it sounds like you are saying the Manager is responsible? I don't disagree with that at all, I'm trying to understand where criticism of the board comes in to it.
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Oh he is a good part of the reason.
I said from day 1 on here that Kyogo wouldnt suit his team. Mentioned it many times. gave the reasons why and some kinda evidence backing it up.
If I could see it Rodgers shoulda been able to see it. Yet still made him no 1 striker in his preferred system.
He had to either use the correct striker for his system or change his system to suit Kyogo.
he should have figured out a way to get far far more outa Kyogo than he has.
But then the finger can also be pointed at the board for not bringing in what he needs.
posted on 5/2/24
ffs Wums everywhere ....
anyways ...what about that new camera perspective for the Arsenal liverpool game yesterday , hated it at first but once you got used to it it was superb .
Got a real sense of the time and space on the park and the shape of both teams in transitions ...was brilliant !
posted on 5/2/24
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You can tell it’s Monday morning eh
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you can tell we must be going well when we win without a penalty. I can see us not getting a penalty again for another 9 games.
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Funniest thing I’ve heard today 😂😂😂
posted on 5/2/24
Congratulations of Big Phil for winning January Manager of the Month.
That said I am surprised they gave him it - have they not heard of new manager bounce?
posted on 5/2/24
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FWIW and I know that aint much.
It aint entitlement, its standards, football more an more every day is a money game and if you have the most you should be the best, if your not questions need to be asked why.
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Standards like 11 league wins in 12 seasons and 5 trebles over the same period? Or standards like just don't ever lose a game?
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Standards like not accepting appointing the highest paid manager ever in Scotland, having the biggest financial reserves in the league by miles and getting a team that looks flat, lacking hunger, are unbalanced and the poor performances now being as often as the good ones.
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Yet Celtic this season under same manager will finish on a higher points total this season than they did in 2/3 of his seasons in his previous tenure as Manager when he was worshipped as a God. No concerns about standards then.
A points total that will likely be higher than half of the seasons they won the league during their most recent 9 in a row win. No calls for the board to go then.
If standards were the issue changes would have been made long ago. It's only a concern when Rangers are in a position to compete. We all know if Clement had continued Beale's run and Celtic were producing the same results and performances but were 10 points ahead there would be 0 mention of any of it.
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there were murmours of the football getting flat and no progression in europe under his tenure and not enough investment in the team back then also. iirc.
they gained their lead in the league largely down to two scrappy wins against us. One against a poor Beale team and one at home against Clement. If either game finished a draw I think most fans would say that was a fair result in those games.
They have essentially possibly dropped an 8 points lead to us in the league and we had zero influence over it (ie no points we took off them)
Iv said from the get go on here they have looked flat and the season was never over for me.
If I can see they are flat and lacking in the other points I raised them im pretty sure they can.
If roles were reversed, I would be fuming at how things are progressing just now.
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Ok so it sounds like you are saying the Manager is responsible? I don't disagree with that at all, I'm trying to understand where criticism of the board comes in to it.
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Oh he is a good part of the reason.
I said from day 1 on here that Kyogo wouldnt suit his team. Mentioned it many times. gave the reasons why and some kinda evidence backing it up.
If I could see it Rodgers shoulda been able to see it. Yet still made him no 1 striker in his preferred system.
He had to either use the correct striker for his system or change his system to suit Kyogo.
he should have figured out a way to get far far more outa Kyogo than he has.
But then the finger can also be pointed at the board for not bringing in what he needs.
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I agree re the Manager, still think criticism is over the top given his results this season are better than previous seasons when he was worshipped but that's par for the course.
But I don't get the board stuff. Could they have spent more, possibly. But there are lots of reasons for not doing so. Still spent upwards of £25m I think this season overall and didn't lose much from a treble winning side. Is it that they didn't back the Manager or just that the Manager didn't use it wisely? After all he bought 3 centre backs for good money in there he doesn't seem to rate or play. You can't just keep asking for more money when the guys you buy don't work out.
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I agree re the Manager, still think criticism is over the top given his results this season are better than previous seasons when he was worshipped but that's par for the course.
But I don't get the board stuff. Could they have spent more, possibly. But there are lots of reasons for not doing so. Still spent upwards of £25m I think this season overall and didn't lose much from a treble winning side. Is it that they didn't back the Manager or just that the Manager didn't use it wisely? After all he bought 3 centre backs for good money in there he doesn't seem to rate or play. You can't just keep asking for more money when the guys you buy don't work out.
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cos fundamentally it comes down to the board, they are the ones that run the club.
they appoint the manager... or they should hire someone who can see what type of manager is needed to follow the previous one. They hire the recruitment team that should be set up to invest the money well.
if the team performs rotten the manager gets the stick.
If the club perform rotten then the board get the stick.
If both happen then a season capitulates.
posted on 5/2/24
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I agree re the Manager, still think criticism is over the top given his results this season are better than previous seasons when he was worshipped but that's par for the course.
But I don't get the board stuff. Could they have spent more, possibly. But there are lots of reasons for not doing so. Still spent upwards of £25m I think this season overall and didn't lose much from a treble winning side. Is it that they didn't back the Manager or just that the Manager didn't use it wisely? After all he bought 3 centre backs for good money in there he doesn't seem to rate or play. You can't just keep asking for more money when the guys you buy don't work out.
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cos fundamentally it comes down to the board, they are the ones that run the club.
they appoint the manager... or they should hire someone who can see what type of manager is needed to follow the previous one. They hire the recruitment team that should be set up to invest the money well.
if the team performs rotten the manager gets the stick.
If the club perform rotten then the board get the stick.
If both happen then a season capitulates.
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But are the club performing poorly? Celtic have been the best run club in the country by some way for years. They haven't really got any of the managerial calls wrong, albeit an argument over Lennon the last time. Getting Ange in was a masterstroke, replacing him with Rodgers is probably the best quality they could have got to backfill - emotions aside he ticked every box.
The club is in great shape and has won 5 trebles and 11 titles in 12 years. They have a transfer model that brings in steady income, all their best players on long term deals, a young squad with further income potential and perform well commercially.
So I don't see any argument for the club performing poorly or big decisions the board are getting wrong.
And lets not get excited here, Celtic are still top of the league and have won both OF games this season. They are still favourites for the title. It's far from a disaster situation they are in. We're not talking about something like 3 years ago when they were 20 points behind in February and losing left right and centre to St Mirren, Livi etc.
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I agree re the Manager, still think criticism is over the top given his results this season are better than previous seasons when he was worshipped but that's par for the course.
But I don't get the board stuff. Could they have spent more, possibly. But there are lots of reasons for not doing so. Still spent upwards of £25m I think this season overall and didn't lose much from a treble winning side. Is it that they didn't back the Manager or just that the Manager didn't use it wisely? After all he bought 3 centre backs for good money in there he doesn't seem to rate or play. You can't just keep asking for more money when the guys you buy don't work out.
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cos fundamentally it comes down to the board, they are the ones that run the club.
they appoint the manager... or they should hire someone who can see what type of manager is needed to follow the previous one. They hire the recruitment team that should be set up to invest the money well.
if the team performs rotten the manager gets the stick.
If the club perform rotten then the board get the stick.
If both happen then a season capitulates.
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But are the club performing poorly? Celtic have been the best run club in the country by some way for years. They haven't really got any of the managerial calls wrong, albeit an argument over Lennon the last time. Getting Ange in was a masterstroke, replacing him with Rodgers is probably the best quality they could have got to backfill - emotions aside he ticked every box.
The club is in great shape and has won 5 trebles and 11 titles in 12 years. They have a transfer model that brings in steady income, all their best players on long term deals, a young squad with further income potential and perform well commercially.
So I don't see any argument for the club performing poorly or big decisions the board are getting wrong.
And lets not get excited here, Celtic are still top of the league and have won both OF games this season. They are still favourites for the title. It's far from a disaster situation they are in. We're not talking about something like 3 years ago when they were 20 points behind in February and losing left right and centre to St Mirren, Livi etc.
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yes, they are flat on the park and have an unbalanced squad.
the recruitment team havent seemed to be able to identify the players required for the balance of the squad or the requirements of the manager.
Im quite excited, IMO we are favourites for the league, if we aint ahead by the time the split happens I will be disappointed.
posted on 5/2/24
Said it before, the board cannot gloat about money in the bank at AGMs then wonder why they are getting grief for spending it on a training facility with dubious value to the first team.
Rodgers may have ticked some boxes but there were big fooking Red Crosses too! The talent pool of available managers is enormous ffs.
posted on 5/2/24
comment by Humble Hamish (U21959)
posted 22 minutes ago
Congratulations of Big Phil for winning January Manager of the Month.
That said I am surprised they gave him it - have they not heard of new manager bounce?
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suprised as well ....beat Dumbarton, Hibs , St mirren and Killie ?
Given the disparity in resource and wages you would think that is all standard fodder ...surely Hearts manager Naismith deserved it way more
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I agree re the Manager, still think criticism is over the top given his results this season are better than previous seasons when he was worshipped but that's par for the course.
But I don't get the board stuff. Could they have spent more, possibly. But there are lots of reasons for not doing so. Still spent upwards of £25m I think this season overall and didn't lose much from a treble winning side. Is it that they didn't back the Manager or just that the Manager didn't use it wisely? After all he bought 3 centre backs for good money in there he doesn't seem to rate or play. You can't just keep asking for more money when the guys you buy don't work out.
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cos fundamentally it comes down to the board, they are the ones that run the club.
they appoint the manager... or they should hire someone who can see what type of manager is needed to follow the previous one. They hire the recruitment team that should be set up to invest the money well.
if the team performs rotten the manager gets the stick.
If the club perform rotten then the board get the stick.
If both happen then a season capitulates.
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But are the club performing poorly? Celtic have been the best run club in the country by some way for years. They haven't really got any of the managerial calls wrong, albeit an argument over Lennon the last time. Getting Ange in was a masterstroke, replacing him with Rodgers is probably the best quality they could have got to backfill - emotions aside he ticked every box.
The club is in great shape and has won 5 trebles and 11 titles in 12 years. They have a transfer model that brings in steady income, all their best players on long term deals, a young squad with further income potential and perform well commercially.
So I don't see any argument for the club performing poorly or big decisions the board are getting wrong.
And lets not get excited here, Celtic are still top of the league and have won both OF games this season. They are still favourites for the title. It's far from a disaster situation they are in. We're not talking about something like 3 years ago when they were 20 points behind in February and losing left right and centre to St Mirren, Livi etc.
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yes, they are flat on the park and have an unbalanced squad.
the recruitment team havent seemed to be able to identify the players required for the balance of the squad or the requirements of the manager.
Im quite excited, IMO we are favourites for the league, if we aint ahead by the time the split happens I will be disappointed.
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I still think Celtic have the mental edge and experience of getting over the line over us. But definitely excited, would have bitten your hand off for this position when Beale left and momentum seems in our favour, along with the implosion from the other side meaning we seem a bit more settled at the moment. I think if we can get a points advantage of any kind it will be a really interesting run in.
posted on 5/2/24
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 2 minutes ago
Said it before, the board cannot gloat about money in the bank at AGMs then wonder why they are getting grief for spending it on a training facility with dubious value to the first team.
Rodgers may have ticked some boxes but there were big fooking Red Crosses too! The talent pool of available managers is enormous ffs.
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This first part is true. It's a difficult one though because its a powerful statement to remind your rivals how much resource you have at your disposal. Goes down well with the support as well at the time. The problem comes when you get in to a battle and people then want you to use the resources you have bragged about having.
But equally if you spend £25m on an already dominant title winning squad you're backing your Manager and investing in progress. What happens on the park is up to the Manager after that in my eyes.
posted on 5/2/24
Im certainly not getting carried away but you cant deny we have a realistic shot at the title this season.
It looked done and dusted after the 3-1 Aberdeen game at Ibrox. Dud signings, a lengthy injury list, a manager who thinks he knows better than everyone else but was failing badly.
But since Phil has come in the momentum has been with us - the reduction in the points gap confirms that.
It didnt quite happen at parkhead but I am optimistic we can put in a performance in the next OF game.
Rangers cant get carried away and I believe Clement wont let them. He seems to have a steely eyed focus and going by the soundbites from the players they are getting the message.
It could go either way IMO but what I would say is that if it is Celtic who blink first and we can get top of the league then I feel there is a bigger chance of unrest from the fans and a collapse from the team.
Fingers crossed, eh!?
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I still think Celtic have the mental edge and experience of getting over the line over us. But definitely excited, would have bitten your hand off for this position when Beale left and momentum seems in our favour, along with the implosion from the other side meaning we seem a bit more settled at the moment. I think if we can get a points advantage of any kind it will be a really interesting run in.
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We have 7 of the next 10 games (including the OF) at home. Celtic have 6 of the next 9 away from home.
We can only blame ourselves if we dont hold a lead going into the break. I think we will get stronger and stronger as the season ends.
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I still think Celtic have the mental edge and experience of getting over the line over us. But definitely excited, would have bitten your hand off for this position when Beale left and momentum seems in our favour, along with the implosion from the other side meaning we seem a bit more settled at the moment. I think if we can get a points advantage of any kind it will be a really interesting run in.
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We have 7 of the next 10 games (including the OF) at home. Celtic have 6 of the next 9 away from home.
We can only blame ourselves if we dont hold a lead going into the break. I think we will get stronger and stronger as the season ends.
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Tbh at the moment there's an argument you would rather they played at home than away. But I take the point. Ultimately though until the next OF game in April we're still relying on them dropping points to get ahead, we could do everything we need to do and win every game up until then and still be second.
posted on 5/2/24
And I still think Celtic have more goals in them than us. It might not look like it just now but Kyogo, Maeda and Abada outscore Dessers, Matondo and McCausland without question.
You could argue Silva and Cortes change that but not sure Silva is full of goals and Cortes is an unknown at this stage.
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I still think Celtic have the mental edge and experience of getting over the line over us. But definitely excited, would have bitten your hand off for this position when Beale left and momentum seems in our favour, along with the implosion from the other side meaning we seem a bit more settled at the moment. I think if we can get a points advantage of any kind it will be a really interesting run in.
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We have 7 of the next 10 games (including the OF) at home. Celtic have 6 of the next 9 away from home.
We can only blame ourselves if we dont hold a lead going into the break. I think we will get stronger and stronger as the season ends.
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Tbh at the moment there's an argument you would rather they played at home than away. But I take the point. Ultimately though until the next OF game in April we're still relying on them dropping points to get ahead, we could do everything we need to do and win every game up until then and still be second.
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no we will be going into the old firm we should be level in games played. We are 2 goals behind in GD. every reason to expect we can be top going into that OF game
posted on 5/2/24
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And I still think Celtic have more goals in them than us. It might not look like it just now but Kyogo, Maeda and Abada outscore Dessers, Matondo and McCausland without question.
You could argue Silva and Cortes change that but not sure Silva is full of goals and Cortes is an unknown at this stage.
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Our defence has been better though - I think celtic will continue to concede marginally more.
We have the best keeper in the league and a pretty well drilled well established set of defenders.
Silvas goal at the weekend was the type Roofe might have scored. Thats exactly the kind of goal I was looking for from him. Pretty encouraging for me.
posted on 5/2/24
Also looks like Clement used the time away in January to work on our set pieces, with so many games it prob wasnt addressed til then. We look far more dangerous from corners especially since we came back.
posted on 5/2/24
comment by Gersmid (U22273)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 2 minutes ago
Said it before, the board cannot gloat about money in the bank at AGMs then wonder why they are getting grief for spending it on a training facility with dubious value to the first team.
Rodgers may have ticked some boxes but there were big fooking Red Crosses too! The talent pool of available managers is enormous ffs.
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This first part is true. It's a difficult one though because its a powerful statement to remind your rivals how much resource you have at your disposal. Goes down well with the support as well at the time. The problem comes when you get in to a battle and people then want you to use the resources you have bragged about having.
But equally if you spend £25m on an already dominant title winning squad you're backing your Manager and investing in progress. What happens on the park is up to the Manager after that in my eyes.
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It is nearer £20m the last two windows and in that same period we’ve let >£30m of talent leave. That’s the issue, we have money to spend but are still net stuffing it away in the bank. We need to get recruitment right to keep spinning that plate and evidence suggests we ain’t?
posted on 5/2/24
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by Gersmid (U22273)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 2 minutes ago
Said it before, the board cannot gloat about money in the bank at AGMs then wonder why they are getting grief for spending it on a training facility with dubious value to the first team.
Rodgers may have ticked some boxes but there were big fooking Red Crosses too! The talent pool of available managers is enormous ffs.
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This first part is true. It's a difficult one though because its a powerful statement to remind your rivals how much resource you have at your disposal. Goes down well with the support as well at the time. The problem comes when you get in to a battle and people then want you to use the resources you have bragged about having.
But equally if you spend £25m on an already dominant title winning squad you're backing your Manager and investing in progress. What happens on the park is up to the Manager after that in my eyes.
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It is nearer £20m the last two windows and in that same period we’ve let >£30m of talent leave. That’s the issue, we have money to spend but are still net stuffing it away in the bank. We need to get recruitment right to keep spinning that plate and evidence suggests we ain’t?
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no fan is gonna react well when the bank balance is going up but the product on the park is going down.
what do you do though ? do you invest in BR or look elsewhere?
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