Very unlikely to with either but CL all day long

Why not both? Unlike some neighbouring clubs, you've got a winners DNA

comment by WeekendOffender (U22920)
posted 2 minutes ago
Why not both? Unlike some neighbouring clubs, you've got a winners DNA
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realistically we can't win both

comment by HenryKamp (U21315)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by WeekendOffender (U22920)
posted 2 minutes ago
Why not both? Unlike some neighbouring clubs, you've got a winners DNA
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realistically we can't win both
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Realistically you can’t win either.

No way you are going to to keep up with City in the league and we are now entering the round of Arsenal in the CL. The clubs European record is nothing short of a farce given your domestic success - You are Londons 4th club in terms of Euro trophies.

Has to be the CL for Arsenal fans surely? I don’t think any club can be considered a big European club without having won that.

In theory we should not be afraid of Bayern, Barca, Real etc in CL. None of them are close to their best and very beatable.
Arteta has yet to prove himself as a good coach over 2 legged ties though.

comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 16 minutes ago
In theory we should not be afraid of Bayern, Barca, Real etc in CL. None of them are close to their best and very beatable.
Arteta has yet to prove himself as a good coach over 2 legged ties though.
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Beatable yes but all would love to draw Arsenal in a QF/SF. You have very little pedigree at that level and nearly always get knocked out. I think Bayern and Madrid would deal with you comfortably to be honest, Barca are shiete though so I wouldn’t be surprised if you beat them. Man City will take some stopping and PSG would cause you lot a ton of problems also. I think you will go out in the quarters unless you get a decent draw in which case it will be out in the semis

Either is brilliant, I think the PL for me, essentially proves you are the best team in the country.

CL would be nice considering we've never won it but think the appeal wears off, don't ever see a single mention of City's win.

Really Chris??
We have just played Forest and had to listen to "Champions of Europe, you'll never sing that". Same with Villa. It is the first thing any Chelsea fan will bring up. Liverpool and United fans put it above any league title. Don't think the appeal ever wears off.

comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 2 minutes ago
Really Chris??
We have just played Forest and had to listen to "Champions of Europe, you'll never sing that". Same with Villa. It is the first thing any Chelsea fan will bring up. Liverpool and United fans put it above any league title. Don't think the appeal ever wears off.
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Maybe, never won it so I wouldn't know

As a one-off yeah it would be brilliant tbf. I still remember 06, absolutely gutting that was considering how great the run to the final was.

I think we can have a good go in the CL.
Do we really fear PSG, Madrid, Bayern in their current state? I dont think so. We might not be favourites but we'd give them a game.
City - never been convinced by Pep's abilities in cup competitions, probably where Arteta gets it from.

UCL of course. Need to win that for once.

100% the CL, also 100% we'll not be winning it. Our cup competition record is terrible under Arteta and the Champions League is the toughest of cups.

City will win the league again, I'll be very surprised if we finish within 5 points of them

comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 49 minutes ago
Really Chris??
We have just played Forest and had to listen to "Champions of Europe, you'll never sing that". Same with Villa. It is the first thing any Chelsea fan will bring up. Liverpool and United fans put it above any league title. Don't think the appeal ever wears off.
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Those European cups were so much easier to win, Villa played knockouts against Icelandic giants Valur and 4th tier German side Dynamo Berliner. It was then Dynamo Kiev in the quarters and Anderlecht in the semis before beating Bayern in the final.

It just doesn’t compare to the current CL

It was much harder just to qualify for. The clubs were heavily restricted back then, there was a larger spread of good teams across the continent.
It doesn't compare, but for the likes of United in 99, Liverpool in this century and Chelsea it was far easier to win than the old one - as they wouldn't even have been in it.

comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 6 minutes ago
It was much harder just to qualify for. The clubs were heavily restricted back then, there was a larger spread of good teams across the continent.
It doesn't compare, but for the likes of United in 99, Liverpool in this century and Chelsea it was far easier to win than the old one - as they wouldn't even have been in it.
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Great comment mate

Can't argue with any of that.

comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 1 hour, 23 minutes ago
It was much harder just to qualify for. The clubs were heavily restricted back then, there was a larger spread of good teams across the continent.
It doesn't compare, but for the likes of United in 99, Liverpool in this century and Chelsea it was far easier to win than the old one - as they wouldn't even have been in it.
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Agreed, but illustrates my point, the real achievement back then was winning the league. After that you had 1 top team from Italy/Germany and Spain, the rest were cannon fodder for English sides, with the occasional brilliant Kiev and Anderlecht teams.

Whereas now everyone is cannon fodder for the Spanish giants?

Not sure why you keep mentioning Anderlecht and Kiev, neither did anything in the European Cup. Anderlecht weren't even in it in that short period of English dominance.

comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 14 minutes ago
Whereas now everyone is cannon fodder for the Spanish giants?

Not sure why you keep mentioning Anderlecht and Kiev, neither did anything in the European Cup. Anderlecht weren't even in it in that short period of English dominance.

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They often made the Quarters at least in the 70’s and 80’s, also they have won 3 times as many European trophies as Arsenal. They were a very handy Euro side.

I mean, quarter finals in a 5 round tournament that you have totally devalued is not exactly great. In the 80s and first couple of years of the 90s you had winners from Romania, Yugoslavia, Portugal, France and the Netherlands. The likes of Steaua Bucharest were more of a force than Kiev or Anderlecht, so you are pretty much arguing it was very competitive, and thus difficult to win, in the pre-CL days.

comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 15 minutes ago
I mean, quarter finals in a 5 round tournament that you have totally devalued is not exactly great. In the 80s and first couple of years of the 90s you had winners from Romania, Yugoslavia, Portugal, France and the Netherlands. The likes of Steaua Bucharest were more of a force than Kiev or Anderlecht, so you are pretty much arguing it was very competitive, and thus difficult to win, in the pre-CL days.
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I’m not, I’m trying to point out that they were better than they are now so they were one of the teams to beat - but these days you have Inter, Juve, Bayern, Dortmund, Real, Barca, Atletico, Benfica, PSG. It’s much harder now

EPL 100 pct.

The UCL is a tin pot competition which even the participants are looking to disband and set up a super league.

Only fans of small teams like Forest and Liverpool care about the UCL.