Your record is also embarrassing if we’re honest
London just isn't a footballing city. That's the issue. Football is a working class game and London has always been too pricey. Clubs cannot even afford to build their own football stadiums. West Ham had to be given an athletics stadium and Spurs had to build an American Football stadium that they can also play their matches at, just to make ends meet. Chelsea are basically playing in a garden shed due to the price of land where they are. London never has and never will be a place for football and that is reflected on the pitch in terms of success.
I think that's accurate. Have you seen Munich this year? I think 4th favourite is flattering to them.
Arsenal definitely have a chance.
Our cup record is awful. If it was a league format, you could make an argument for 3rd but don't think it makes sense to have us 3rd favourite given it's knock out.
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 3 minutes ago
I think that's accurate. Have you seen Munich this year? I think 4th favourite is flattering to them.
Arsenal definitely have a chance.
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Would you really back Arteta v Tuchel in one off match?
comment by Michael Mellon (U1734)
posted 8 minutes ago
London just isn't a footballing city. That's the issue. Football is a working class game and London has always been too pricey. Clubs cannot even afford to build their own football stadiums. West Ham had to be given an athletics stadium and Spurs had to build an American Football stadium that they can also play their matches at, just to make ends meet. Chelsea are basically playing in a garden shed due to the price of land where they are. London never has and never will be a place for football and that is reflected on the pitch in terms of success.
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I think there are 15 clubs or something in London so it is a footballing city, more people attend professional football game in London than any other city in the world
but I take your point.
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posted 7 minutes ago
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 3 minutes ago
I think that's accurate. Have you seen Munich this year? I think 4th favourite is flattering to them.
Arsenal definitely have a chance.
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Would you really back Arteta v Tuchel in one off match?
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Yes. Tuchel likes Dier.
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by CFC: Quad stoppers (U20729)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 3 minutes ago
I think that's accurate. Have you seen Munich this year? I think 4th favourite is flattering to them.
Arsenal definitely have a chance.
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Would you really back Arteta v Tuchel in one off match?
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Yes. Tuchel likes Dier.
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I’d go with:
1 - City
2 - Madrid
3 - Inter
4 - Arsenal
The rest are very beatable
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 1 hour, 31 minutes ago
I think that's accurate. Have you seen Munich this year? I think 4th favourite is flattering to them.
Arsenal definitely have a chance.
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Yeah, I mean obviously we've generally been terrible in Europe but there is always this weird anti-English clubs bias no matter what.
Really don't fancy City over 2 legs, nor Madrid. Aside from that, dont really fear anyone left though Mbappe is a pain as he can score no matter how PSG play.
The standard is not high this year that’s for sure, other than City there is no vintage side. A few big names didn’t make it - Juve, Liverpool, Barca.
Madrid are good but not great, Bayern are hit and miss, PSG would be Europa league without Mbappe.
City and Real clear faves, Bayern, Inter, Atletico and Arsenal are the other sides in contention and the rest are no hopers.
comment by Striketeam7 - There used to be a football club over there (U18109)
posted 2 minutes ago
The standard is not high this year that’s for sure, other than City there is no vintage side. A few big names didn’t make it - Juve, Liverpool, Barca.
Madrid are good but not great, Bayern are hit and miss, PSG would be Europa league without Mbappe.
City and Real clear faves, Bayern, Inter, Atletico and Arsenal are the other sides in contention and the rest are no hopers.
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Can't forget about Napoli, seeing as they are already through to the quarter finals.
comment by Michael Mellon (U1734)
posted 1 hour, 46 minutes ago
London just isn't a footballing city. That's the issue. Football is a working class game and London has always been too pricey. Clubs cannot even afford to build their own football stadiums. West Ham had to be given an athletics stadium and Spurs had to build an American Football stadium that they can also play their matches at, just to make ends meet. Chelsea are basically playing in a garden shed due to the price of land where they are. London never has and never will be a place for football and that is reflected on the pitch in terms of success.
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3 of the top 20 sides in the world are from London and there are loads of working class people down here.
London based clubs have under performed in the European cup/Champions league, but in all European club competitions we have 13 between us which isn’t bad at all
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comment by Michael Mellon (U1734)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - There used to be a football club over there (U18109)
posted 2 minutes ago
The standard is not high this year that’s for sure, other than City there is no vintage side. A few big names didn’t make it - Juve, Liverpool, Barca.
Madrid are good but not great, Bayern are hit and miss, PSG would be Europa league without Mbappe.
City and Real clear faves, Bayern, Inter, Atletico and Arsenal are the other sides in contention and the rest are no hopers.
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Can't forget about Napoli, seeing as they are already through to the quarter finals.
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Ha, I genuinely thought Barca had been knocked out - they are shiete though
comment by Striketeam7 - There used to be a football club... (U18109)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by Michael Mellon (U1734)
posted 1 hour, 46 minutes ago
London just isn't a footballing city. That's the issue. Football is a working class game and London has always been too pricey. Clubs cannot even afford to build their own football stadiums. West Ham had to be given an athletics stadium and Spurs had to build an American Football stadium that they can also play their matches at, just to make ends meet. Chelsea are basically playing in a garden shed due to the price of land where they are. London never has and never will be a place for football and that is reflected on the pitch in terms of success.
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3 of the top 20 sides in the world are from London and there are loads of working class people down here.
London based clubs have under performed in the European cup/Champions league, but in all European club competitions we have 13 between us which isn’t bad at all
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Yes I suppose so.
And one London team is European royalty: one of only five European clubs have won every major trophy in existence: Juventus, Ajax, Manchester United, Bayern Munich and Chelsea
i re d'Europa
comment by Robbing Hoody - I taught Szoboszlai how to cus... (U6374)
posted 2 hours, 16 minutes ago
Your record is also embarrassing if we’re honest
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We've won the full set like United: Twice.
European royalty mate!!!
Liverpool's (relatively) poor FA Cup record pre Heysel meant they never won one of the set
A lot of bias here from some rival fans mainly going off irrelevant history. Realistically you can only justifiably argue that City and Real Madrid have a better chance of winning the CL than us.
Other suggestions such as Bayern or Inter ate more a matter of opinion - certainly one's that I don't agree with.
comment by Zein Mayassi (U21076)
posted 5 minutes ago
A lot of bias here from some rival fans mainly going off irrelevant history. Realistically you can only justifiably argue that City and Real Madrid have a better chance of winning the CL than us.
Other suggestions such as Bayern or Inter ate more a matter of opinion - certainly one's that I don't agree with.
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Inter are top of Serie A and made the CL final last season. Atletico have won La Liga more recently that Arsenal have won the Prem and even to 2 CL finals since Arsenal made 1.
Bayern are a bigger and better club than Arsenal full stop, they have better players and a better manager who has won it all at club level.
There is no bias in putting your chances the same as Inter, Bayerns and Atleticos.
comment by Striketeam7 - There used to be a football club over there (U18109)
posted 1 hour, 3 minutes ago
comment by Michael Mellon (U1734)
posted 1 hour, 46 minutes ago
London just isn't a footballing city. That's the issue. Football is a working class game and London has always been too pricey. Clubs cannot even afford to build their own football stadiums. West Ham had to be given an athletics stadium and Spurs had to build an American Football stadium that they can also play their matches at, just to make ends meet. Chelsea are basically playing in a garden shed due to the price of land where they are. London never has and never will be a place for football and that is reflected on the pitch in terms of success.
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3 of the top 20 sides in the world are from London and there are loads of working class people down here.
London based clubs have under performed in the European cup/Champions league, but in all European club competitions we have 13 between us which isn’t bad at all
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3 of the top 20 sides, in terms of what? Success?
London as a city has definitely underachieved in the CL.
Fair play to Chelsea for the 4th biggest club in the capital to have won it twice puts Arsenal, Spurs and West Ham to shame.
comment by Custardeyes (U4500)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - There used to be a football club over there (U18109)
posted 1 hour, 3 minutes ago
comment by Michael Mellon (U1734)
posted 1 hour, 46 minutes ago
London just isn't a footballing city. That's the issue. Football is a working class game and London has always been too pricey. Clubs cannot even afford to build their own football stadiums. West Ham had to be given an athletics stadium and Spurs had to build an American Football stadium that they can also play their matches at, just to make ends meet. Chelsea are basically playing in a garden shed due to the price of land where they are. London never has and never will be a place for football and that is reflected on the pitch in terms of success.
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3 of the top 20 sides in the world are from London and there are loads of working class people down here.
London based clubs have under performed in the European cup/Champions league, but in all European club competitions we have 13 between us which isn’t bad at all
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3 of the top 20 sides, in terms of what? Success?
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Fans, revenue, Euro success, prestige, Co efficient points, making CL knockout stages in the modern era.
You pick a measure
Well that’s bollox I reckon
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posted on 14/2/24
Your record is also embarrassing if we’re honest
posted on 14/2/24
London just isn't a footballing city. That's the issue. Football is a working class game and London has always been too pricey. Clubs cannot even afford to build their own football stadiums. West Ham had to be given an athletics stadium and Spurs had to build an American Football stadium that they can also play their matches at, just to make ends meet. Chelsea are basically playing in a garden shed due to the price of land where they are. London never has and never will be a place for football and that is reflected on the pitch in terms of success.
posted on 14/2/24
I think that's accurate. Have you seen Munich this year? I think 4th favourite is flattering to them.
Arsenal definitely have a chance.
posted on 14/2/24
Our cup record is awful. If it was a league format, you could make an argument for 3rd but don't think it makes sense to have us 3rd favourite given it's knock out.
posted on 14/2/24
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 3 minutes ago
I think that's accurate. Have you seen Munich this year? I think 4th favourite is flattering to them.
Arsenal definitely have a chance.
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Would you really back Arteta v Tuchel in one off match?
posted on 14/2/24
comment by Michael Mellon (U1734)
posted 8 minutes ago
London just isn't a footballing city. That's the issue. Football is a working class game and London has always been too pricey. Clubs cannot even afford to build their own football stadiums. West Ham had to be given an athletics stadium and Spurs had to build an American Football stadium that they can also play their matches at, just to make ends meet. Chelsea are basically playing in a garden shed due to the price of land where they are. London never has and never will be a place for football and that is reflected on the pitch in terms of success.
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I think there are 15 clubs or something in London so it is a footballing city, more people attend professional football game in London than any other city in the world
but I take your point.
posted on 14/2/24
comment by CFC: Quad stoppers (U20729)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 3 minutes ago
I think that's accurate. Have you seen Munich this year? I think 4th favourite is flattering to them.
Arsenal definitely have a chance.
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Would you really back Arteta v Tuchel in one off match?
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Yes. Tuchel likes Dier.
posted on 14/2/24
posted on 14/2/24
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by CFC: Quad stoppers (U20729)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 3 minutes ago
I think that's accurate. Have you seen Munich this year? I think 4th favourite is flattering to them.
Arsenal definitely have a chance.
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Would you really back Arteta v Tuchel in one off match?
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Yes. Tuchel likes Dier.
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posted on 14/2/24
I’d go with:
1 - City
2 - Madrid
3 - Inter
4 - Arsenal
The rest are very beatable
posted on 14/2/24
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 1 hour, 31 minutes ago
I think that's accurate. Have you seen Munich this year? I think 4th favourite is flattering to them.
Arsenal definitely have a chance.
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Yeah, I mean obviously we've generally been terrible in Europe but there is always this weird anti-English clubs bias no matter what.
Really don't fancy City over 2 legs, nor Madrid. Aside from that, dont really fear anyone left though Mbappe is a pain as he can score no matter how PSG play.
posted on 14/2/24
The standard is not high this year that’s for sure, other than City there is no vintage side. A few big names didn’t make it - Juve, Liverpool, Barca.
Madrid are good but not great, Bayern are hit and miss, PSG would be Europa league without Mbappe.
City and Real clear faves, Bayern, Inter, Atletico and Arsenal are the other sides in contention and the rest are no hopers.
posted on 14/2/24
comment by Striketeam7 - There used to be a football club over there (U18109)
posted 2 minutes ago
The standard is not high this year that’s for sure, other than City there is no vintage side. A few big names didn’t make it - Juve, Liverpool, Barca.
Madrid are good but not great, Bayern are hit and miss, PSG would be Europa league without Mbappe.
City and Real clear faves, Bayern, Inter, Atletico and Arsenal are the other sides in contention and the rest are no hopers.
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Can't forget about Napoli, seeing as they are already through to the quarter finals.
posted on 14/2/24
comment by Michael Mellon (U1734)
posted 1 hour, 46 minutes ago
London just isn't a footballing city. That's the issue. Football is a working class game and London has always been too pricey. Clubs cannot even afford to build their own football stadiums. West Ham had to be given an athletics stadium and Spurs had to build an American Football stadium that they can also play their matches at, just to make ends meet. Chelsea are basically playing in a garden shed due to the price of land where they are. London never has and never will be a place for football and that is reflected on the pitch in terms of success.
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3 of the top 20 sides in the world are from London and there are loads of working class people down here.
London based clubs have under performed in the European cup/Champions league, but in all European club competitions we have 13 between us which isn’t bad at all
posted on 14/2/24
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posted on 14/2/24
comment by Michael Mellon (U1734)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - There used to be a football club over there (U18109)
posted 2 minutes ago
The standard is not high this year that’s for sure, other than City there is no vintage side. A few big names didn’t make it - Juve, Liverpool, Barca.
Madrid are good but not great, Bayern are hit and miss, PSG would be Europa league without Mbappe.
City and Real clear faves, Bayern, Inter, Atletico and Arsenal are the other sides in contention and the rest are no hopers.
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Can't forget about Napoli, seeing as they are already through to the quarter finals.
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Ha, I genuinely thought Barca had been knocked out - they are shiete though
posted on 14/2/24
comment by Striketeam7 - There used to be a football club... (U18109)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by Michael Mellon (U1734)
posted 1 hour, 46 minutes ago
London just isn't a footballing city. That's the issue. Football is a working class game and London has always been too pricey. Clubs cannot even afford to build their own football stadiums. West Ham had to be given an athletics stadium and Spurs had to build an American Football stadium that they can also play their matches at, just to make ends meet. Chelsea are basically playing in a garden shed due to the price of land where they are. London never has and never will be a place for football and that is reflected on the pitch in terms of success.
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3 of the top 20 sides in the world are from London and there are loads of working class people down here.
London based clubs have under performed in the European cup/Champions league, but in all European club competitions we have 13 between us which isn’t bad at all
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Yes I suppose so.
And one London team is European royalty: one of only five European clubs have won every major trophy in existence: Juventus, Ajax, Manchester United, Bayern Munich and Chelsea
i re d'Europa
posted on 14/2/24
comment by Robbing Hoody - I taught Szoboszlai how to cus... (U6374)
posted 2 hours, 16 minutes ago
Your record is also embarrassing if we’re honest
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We've won the full set like United: Twice.
European royalty mate!!!
Liverpool's (relatively) poor FA Cup record pre Heysel meant they never won one of the set
posted on 14/2/24
A lot of bias here from some rival fans mainly going off irrelevant history. Realistically you can only justifiably argue that City and Real Madrid have a better chance of winning the CL than us.
Other suggestions such as Bayern or Inter ate more a matter of opinion - certainly one's that I don't agree with.
posted on 14/2/24
*are a matter of opinion
posted on 14/2/24
comment by Zein Mayassi (U21076)
posted 5 minutes ago
A lot of bias here from some rival fans mainly going off irrelevant history. Realistically you can only justifiably argue that City and Real Madrid have a better chance of winning the CL than us.
Other suggestions such as Bayern or Inter ate more a matter of opinion - certainly one's that I don't agree with.
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Inter are top of Serie A and made the CL final last season. Atletico have won La Liga more recently that Arsenal have won the Prem and even to 2 CL finals since Arsenal made 1.
Bayern are a bigger and better club than Arsenal full stop, they have better players and a better manager who has won it all at club level.
There is no bias in putting your chances the same as Inter, Bayerns and Atleticos.
posted on 14/2/24
comment by Striketeam7 - There used to be a football club over there (U18109)
posted 1 hour, 3 minutes ago
comment by Michael Mellon (U1734)
posted 1 hour, 46 minutes ago
London just isn't a footballing city. That's the issue. Football is a working class game and London has always been too pricey. Clubs cannot even afford to build their own football stadiums. West Ham had to be given an athletics stadium and Spurs had to build an American Football stadium that they can also play their matches at, just to make ends meet. Chelsea are basically playing in a garden shed due to the price of land where they are. London never has and never will be a place for football and that is reflected on the pitch in terms of success.
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3 of the top 20 sides in the world are from London and there are loads of working class people down here.
London based clubs have under performed in the European cup/Champions league, but in all European club competitions we have 13 between us which isn’t bad at all
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3 of the top 20 sides, in terms of what? Success?
posted on 14/2/24
London as a city has definitely underachieved in the CL.
Fair play to Chelsea for the 4th biggest club in the capital to have won it twice puts Arsenal, Spurs and West Ham to shame.
posted on 14/2/24
comment by Custardeyes (U4500)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - There used to be a football club over there (U18109)
posted 1 hour, 3 minutes ago
comment by Michael Mellon (U1734)
posted 1 hour, 46 minutes ago
London just isn't a footballing city. That's the issue. Football is a working class game and London has always been too pricey. Clubs cannot even afford to build their own football stadiums. West Ham had to be given an athletics stadium and Spurs had to build an American Football stadium that they can also play their matches at, just to make ends meet. Chelsea are basically playing in a garden shed due to the price of land where they are. London never has and never will be a place for football and that is reflected on the pitch in terms of success.
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3 of the top 20 sides in the world are from London and there are loads of working class people down here.
London based clubs have under performed in the European cup/Champions league, but in all European club competitions we have 13 between us which isn’t bad at all
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3 of the top 20 sides, in terms of what? Success?
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Fans, revenue, Euro success, prestige, Co efficient points, making CL knockout stages in the modern era.
You pick a measure
posted on 14/2/24
Well that’s bollox I reckon
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