I don't even think Rodgers is a bad manager.
He's done well in his first season or so nearly everywhere he's been but his managerial history shows his shelf life is short. I suspect because he's phoney, it has tailed off badly everywhere he's been probably because to lead successfully for a longer period you need to be genuine. He's never come across like that.
Getting him in for another bash with some of the same players still there was risky, some of them would have seen through him from the start this time, which probably doesn't help those who are fresh to his methods.
Beale was another phoney.
If and i don't think they will be but if Celtic were ruthless and dispose of Rodgers if they fall even another point behind Rangers. The potential for their fortunes to turn around very quickly is there, it is still a team with some very talented players in it, with the know how and without European football there should be chances to take advantage of any slip we make.
Rodgers isn't a bad manager. However there was a lot of smoke about his second coming when from a Rangers fans perspective there was cause for optimism when you looked at his first spell.
His first season was incredible, no question. But in his second and third season Celtic dropped a lot of points. In his second season I think Celtic won the league finishing 8 points ahead of Aberdeen and 9 points ahead of a Rangers team that had Pedro, Murty and eventually Jimmy Nicholl managing us. That season is one of the most horrendous for us in living memory and yet Celtic were only 9 points better off - considering Celtic took 10 points from the OF games that season our records vs the rest of the league were actually comparable.
It was the same in the third season when Gerrard came in and overhauled the squad. Despite the worst start to a league season in our history and struggling for consistency we were still somehow top of the league in December given the number of points Celtic dropped. It was only post winter break a bit of a gap opened up between the teams.
Celtic would have won the league comfortably had Beale remained but they would likely have dropped the same amount of points as we're seeing now. We were always going to have a chance this season if we could get our own house in order, which is what we managed to do in the end. But still a lot of football to play, Hearts and Killie for us now back to back and will be tough to take 6 points.
If im gonna be accused of getting carried away then the opposite can be said of others being a $hitebag.
We should be taking 6 points from Hearts and Killie.
If I gave people a free £5 bet and offered you evens against both Hearts at home and Killie away anyone with any sense would put it wins for us in both matches. We will still be strong favourites in those games.
Mags is actually correct, too many people willing to actually make a prediction through fear of it being wrong and getting pulled up for it.
Is there any bear on here that isnt confident we will win these next two games or doesnt feel we are strong favourites?
They weren't daft.
You started the season with Beale. Although most of you couldn't see it, he was clearly a dud as has been shown by recent events. Had you kept him Celtic would have won the league.
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Yeah but we get told every manager we hire is a dud.
Beales record when he came in last season was terrific - as Celtic fans have been falling over themselves to point out in the last week it was on a par with Clements start.
Unfortunately Beale got carried away with himself and his ego lead to his downfall. He started believing he was some sort of managerial/coaching/recruitment guru.
I am sure Beale is a very good coach - there seem to be a fair few player testimonies to that fact. Hes just a bit of a pwick that thinks he sees the game differently to all the punters that have been watching it for 30+ years and know a pile of keech when they see it.
We have since been told that the guy who has won his Europa League Group, the League cup and top spot in the Prem is just enjoying the new manager bounce that anyone coming in after Beale could have done.
I am happy for our opposition and opposition fans to keep writing us off. So far we have sneaked up into top spot and and the momentum is undoubtedly with us.
If Brendan really is a top class manager then he is going to need to show it in the next few months.
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posted 1 minute ago
If im gonna be accused of getting carried away then the opposite can be said of others being a $hitebag.
We should be taking 6 points from Hearts and Killie.
If I gave people a free £5 bet and offered you evens against both Hearts at home and Killie away anyone with any sense would put it wins for us in both matches. We will still be strong favourites in those games.
Mags is actually correct, too many people willing to actually make a prediction through fear of it being wrong and getting pulled up for it.
Is there any bear on here that isnt confident we will win these next two games or doesnt feel we are strong favourites?
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I dont think its being a sheidtbag being concerned about those next two games. Its highly unlikely we will go to the end of the season without dropping points and Killie away on a cold wednesday night in February is one of the toughest assignments we will get. The chances of a game of football breaking out that night are very slim indeed.
Its just being realistic. For me a draw in that one is a respectable result and a point that could be very valuable come may.
We absolutely should be winning on saturday though.
A fit and firing Sima would improve our title challenge immensely.
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A fit and firing Sima would improve our title challenge immensely.
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And Danilo and Roofe.
Those are our three biggest goal threats besides Tv realistically.
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If im gonna be accused of getting carried away then the opposite can be said of others being a $hitebag.
We should be taking 6 points from Hearts and Killie.
If I gave people a free £5 bet and offered you evens against both Hearts at home and Killie away anyone with any sense would put it wins for us in both matches. We will still be strong favourites in those games.
Mags is actually correct, too many people willing to actually make a prediction through fear of it being wrong and getting pulled up for it.
Is there any bear on here that isnt confident we will win these next two games or doesnt feel we are strong favourites?
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I dont think its being a sheidtbag being concerned about those next two games. Its highly unlikely we will go to the end of the season without dropping points and Killie away on a cold wednesday night in February is one of the toughest assignments we will get. The chances of a game of football breaking out that night are very slim indeed.
Its just being realistic. For me a draw in that one is a respectable result and a point that could be very valuable come may.
We absolutely should be winning on saturday though.
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There's no chance we go without dropping any points and the next two games are against the 3rd best team in the country with a proper finisher so give them chances and continue to be as profligate as we have been and we could drop points.
Killie away is always a concern.
I think we should win both games but i've seen enough football up here to know that those two fixtures could be tough games to win.
If we had a a reliable goal scorer I might feel confident enough to predict wins but I don't, I hope we will win and I think we should.
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A fit and firing Sima would improve our title challenge immensely.
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And Danilo and Roofe.
Those are our three biggest goal threats besides Tv realistically.
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Any update on when those two might be back?
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posted 1 minute ago
If im gonna be accused of getting carried away then the opposite can be said of others being a $hitebag.
We should be taking 6 points from Hearts and Killie.
If I gave people a free £5 bet and offered you evens against both Hearts at home and Killie away anyone with any sense would put it wins for us in both matches. We will still be strong favourites in those games.
Mags is actually correct, too many people willing to actually make a prediction through fear of it being wrong and getting pulled up for it.
Is there any bear on here that isnt confident we will win these next two games or doesnt feel we are strong favourites?
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I dont think its being a sheidtbag being concerned about those next two games. Its highly unlikely we will go to the end of the season without dropping points and Killie away on a cold wednesday night in February is one of the toughest assignments we will get. The chances of a game of football breaking out that night are very slim indeed.
Its just being realistic. For me a draw in that one is a respectable result and a point that could be very valuable come may.
We absolutely should be winning on saturday though.
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There's no chance we go without dropping any points and the next two games are against the 3rd best team in the country with a proper finisher so give them chances and continue to be as profligate as we have been and we could drop points.
Killie away is always a concern.
I think we should win both games but i've seen enough football up here to know that those two fixtures could be tough games to win.
If we had a a reliable goal scorer I might feel confident enough to predict wins but I don't, I hope we will win and I think we should.
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"no chance" we beat Killie away and Hearts at home?!?! okay
so you predict we wont win both. I disagree with that
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posted 1 minute ago
If im gonna be accused of getting carried away then the opposite can be said of others being a $hitebag.
We should be taking 6 points from Hearts and Killie.
If I gave people a free £5 bet and offered you evens against both Hearts at home and Killie away anyone with any sense would put it wins for us in both matches. We will still be strong favourites in those games.
Mags is actually correct, too many people willing to actually make a prediction through fear of it being wrong and getting pulled up for it.
Is there any bear on here that isnt confident we will win these next two games or doesnt feel we are strong favourites?
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I dont think its being a sheidtbag being concerned about those next two games. Its highly unlikely we will go to the end of the season without dropping points and Killie away on a cold wednesday night in February is one of the toughest assignments we will get. The chances of a game of football breaking out that night are very slim indeed.
Its just being realistic. For me a draw in that one is a respectable result and a point that could be very valuable come may.
We absolutely should be winning on saturday though.
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There's no chance we go without dropping any points and the next two games are against the 3rd best team in the country with a proper finisher so give them chances and continue to be as profligate as we have been and we could drop points.
Killie away is always a concern.
I think we should win both games but i've seen enough football up here to know that those two fixtures could be tough games to win.
If we had a a reliable goal scorer I might feel confident enough to predict wins but I don't, I hope we will win and I think we should.
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"no chance" we beat Killie away and Hearts at home?!?! okay
so you predict we wont win both. I disagree with that
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Try reading that again
You said there is no chance we go without dropping points in our next two games?
ahh you mean for the rest of the season ? No one is claiming that?
We’re going to drop points, these are two tough games.
Some fans are wary of those fixtures with good reason and don’t share your confidence. We hope you’re right but knowing our team and lack of clinical edge I can understand why.
Get through those two unscathed and the confidence will grow. Both are big games for us right now and both would be a big 3 points.
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We’re going to drop points, these are two tough games.
Some fans are wary of those fixtures with good reason and don’t share your confidence. We hope you’re right but knowing our team and lack of clinical edge I can understand why.
Get through those two unscathed and the confidence will grow. Both are big games for us right now and both would be a big 3 points.
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be wary yeah , but we will be favourites and like I said I dont understand why the lack in confidence, if you gave a fan a free 5 quid bet and evens odds for either team, the money would go on us.
We will be favourites and rightly so, are you saying you dont think we will win them both?
I dont think we will drop points before the OF.
We should be confident of beating hearts at home, regardless of their form. Because we should be confident against any opponent at home.
Killie away is probably scary tissue due to coming unstuck there in the past, the horror show of a pitch and the fact McInnes has them well organised and carrying a threat.
We are different under Phil though and it's less about how do we avoid slipping up and more about what do we do well to ensure a win. It's only a subtle mindset change but you can see it's working
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We should be confident of beating hearts at home, regardless of their form. Because we should be confident against any opponent at home.
Killie away is probably scary tissue due to coming unstuck there in the past, the horror show of a pitch and the fact McInnes has them well organised and carrying a threat.
We are different under Phil though and it's less about how do we avoid slipping up and more about what do we do well to ensure a win. It's only a subtle mindset change but you can see it's working
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too many people too scared to back the team through either fear or some sorta jinx, or refuse to put it in black and white on here through fear of being pulled up.
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We should be confident of beating hearts at home, regardless of their form. Because we should be confident against any opponent at home.
Killie away is probably scary tissue due to coming unstuck there in the past, the horror show of a pitch and the fact McInnes has them well organised and carrying a threat.
We are different under Phil though and it's less about how do we avoid slipping up and more about what do we do well to ensure a win. It's only a subtle mindset change but you can see it's working
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too many people too scared to back the team through either fear or some sorta jinx, or refuse to put it in black and white on here through fear of being pulled up.
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It's scar tissue from being let down so often in the past 5 or so years. So it's understandable, the trust has to be built but it's getting there
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We should be confident of beating hearts at home, regardless of their form. Because we should be confident against any opponent at home.
Killie away is probably scary tissue due to coming unstuck there in the past, the horror show of a pitch and the fact McInnes has them well organised and carrying a threat.
We are different under Phil though and it's less about how do we avoid slipping up and more about what do we do well to ensure a win. It's only a subtle mindset change but you can see it's working
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too many people too scared to back the team through either fear or some sorta jinx, or refuse to put it in black and white on here through fear of being pulled up.
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It's scar tissue from being let down so often in the past 5 or so years. So it's understandable, the trust has to be built but it's getting there
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agree but its still creates a fear for whatever reason.
I dont look at the past, I look at the present.
You can see the team have a different mentality, we are hungry again there is a steelyness about us now.
to me this team look like a team that aint bottlers.
Our defence is excellent just now, the team have real belief and we have a boss that knows how to see this scenario out.
I am not sure why it should be labelled a 'fear to back the team'.
I absolutely back the team but I am realistic that anything can happen in football. And Killie away on a freezing cold Feb evening on a plastic pitch against Deek McInnes team that will niggle like fook then hit the deck every time a Gers player breathes on them will be a tough shift.
In terms of risk - for me the Killie game is the highest risk in the next few games. I am absolutely not taking a win for granted.
And I think a draw against Killie away this season is a decent result for a team trying to win the league. Celtic have played there twice and lost twice this season so a draw would represent a better performance than our nearest rivals - which is kinda how you win leagues.
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I am not sure why it should be labelled a 'fear to back the team'.
I absolutely back the team but I am realistic that anything can happen in football. And Killie away on a freezing cold Feb evening on a plastic pitch against Deek McInnes team that will niggle like fook then hit the deck every time a Gers player breathes on them will be a tough shift.
In terms of risk - for me the Killie game is the highest risk in the next few games. I am absolutely not taking a win for granted.
And I think a draw against Killie away this season is a decent result for a team trying to win the league. Celtic have played there twice and lost twice this season so a draw would represent a better performance than our nearest rivals - which is kinda how you win leagues.
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So I ask you who do you think we will drop points to before the OF?
Killie is the highest risk, i agree. I am also confident we will beat them cos we have better players and a better manager.
of course anything can happen, Im saying I THINK we win the games, not that we WILL win them.
I dont see me backing them to win and expecting them to win as taking it for granted.
a draw away to Killie right now would be a poor result.
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I am not sure why it should be labelled a 'fear to back the team'.
I absolutely back the team but I am realistic that anything can happen in football. And Killie away on a freezing cold Feb evening on a plastic pitch against Deek McInnes team that will niggle like fook then hit the deck every time a Gers player breathes on them will be a tough shift.
In terms of risk - for me the Killie game is the highest risk in the next few games. I am absolutely not taking a win for granted.
And I think a draw against Killie away this season is a decent result for a team trying to win the league. Celtic have played there twice and lost twice this season so a draw would represent a better performance than our nearest rivals - which is kinda how you win leagues.
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So I ask you who do you think we will drop points to before the OF?
Killie is the highest risk, i agree. I am also confident we will beat them cos we have better players and a better manager.
of course anything can happen, Im saying I THINK we win the games, not that we WILL win them.
I dont see me backing them to win and expecting them to win as taking it for granted.
a draw away to Killie right now would be a poor result.
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So do you think if we draw away to Killie we wont win the league?
Because for me thats the only scenario it becomes a bad result in the grand scheme of things.
We drew away at Pittodrie but then so did celtic - so you can argue that it didnt damage our attempt to win the league. It was of course an opportunity missed but lets be realistic - we are still far from the finished article and have to expect bumps in the road.
I dont expect us to lose or draw to killie. I think we are capable of winning the game. I just get the feeling its going to be a real tough one for us and it wouldnt surprise me if we drop points. I wouldnt be devastated with a draw.
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So do you think if we draw away to Killie we wont win the league?
Because for me thats the only scenario it becomes a bad result in the grand scheme of things.
We drew away at Pittodrie but then so did celtic - so you can argue that it didnt damage our attempt to win the league. It was of course an opportunity missed but lets be realistic - we are still far from the finished article and have to expect bumps in the road.
I dont expect us to lose or draw to killie. I think we are capable of winning the game. I just get the feeling its going to be a real tough one for us and it wouldnt surprise me if we drop points. I wouldnt be devastated with a draw.
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we should be beating every team whose finances are dwarfed by us.
Anything but a win against any team outwith celtic home or away is a bad result.
I never said it would be easy, why are people assuming that? saying I think we will beat Hearts and Killie is not me saying they will be easy games. But games we should be winning and any game that we should win and dont is a bad result IMO.
If we win the league but draw against Livi at home will always be a bad result and not a decent or good result cos we won the league, it would still be a poor result.
To me you post says that you do expect us to beat Killie but for some reason are reluctant to say so.
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So do you think if we draw away to Killie we wont win the league?
Because for me thats the only scenario it becomes a bad result in the grand scheme of things.
We drew away at Pittodrie but then so did celtic - so you can argue that it didnt damage our attempt to win the league. It was of course an opportunity missed but lets be realistic - we are still far from the finished article and have to expect bumps in the road.
I dont expect us to lose or draw to killie. I think we are capable of winning the game. I just get the feeling its going to be a real tough one for us and it wouldnt surprise me if we drop points. I wouldnt be devastated with a draw.
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we should be beating every team whose finances are dwarfed by us.
Anything but a win against any team outwith celtic home or away is a bad result.
I never said it would be easy, why are people assuming that? saying I think we will beat Hearts and Killie is not me saying they will be easy games. But games we should be winning and any game that we should win and dont is a bad result IMO.
If we win the league but draw against Livi at home will always be a bad result and not a decent or good result cos we won the league, it would still be a poor result.
To me you post says that you do expect us to beat Killie but for some reason are reluctant to say so.
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I dont EXPECT us to win at Killie. Certainly not in the way that I expected us to beat Ross Co or St J.
Of course we can win at Killie but I also think theres a decent chance we might drop points. And in the context of this seasons league challenge I dont think that would turn out to be a disaster.
I agree we should beat everyone whose finances are dwarfed by us. But I have watched enough football to know life isnt like that.
On their day Killie are more than capable of taking something from us.
If we win at killie its a great result.
Im a big picture pragmatist. Boring AF aye but means I dont get too high or too low. If we draw with Killie and win the league then its a great result
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We’re going to drop points, these are two tough games.
Some fans are wary of those fixtures with good reason and don’t share your confidence. We hope you’re right but knowing our team and lack of clinical edge I can understand why.
Get through those two unscathed and the confidence will grow. Both are big games for us right now and both would be a big 3 points.
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be wary yeah , but we will be favourites and like I said I dont understand why the lack in confidence, if you gave a fan a free 5 quid bet and evens odds for either team, the money would go on us.
We will be favourites and rightly so, are you saying you dont think we will win them both?
I dont think we will drop points before the OF.
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If i had a free fiver I had to bet then I would bet, would I get a fiver out of my own pocket and bet on Rangers to win those two games, no I wouldn't.
I think they can and should but not confident enough to back them with my own money.
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posted on 20/2/24
I don't even think Rodgers is a bad manager.
He's done well in his first season or so nearly everywhere he's been but his managerial history shows his shelf life is short. I suspect because he's phoney, it has tailed off badly everywhere he's been probably because to lead successfully for a longer period you need to be genuine. He's never come across like that.
Getting him in for another bash with some of the same players still there was risky, some of them would have seen through him from the start this time, which probably doesn't help those who are fresh to his methods.
Beale was another phoney.
If and i don't think they will be but if Celtic were ruthless and dispose of Rodgers if they fall even another point behind Rangers. The potential for their fortunes to turn around very quickly is there, it is still a team with some very talented players in it, with the know how and without European football there should be chances to take advantage of any slip we make.
posted on 20/2/24
Rodgers isn't a bad manager. However there was a lot of smoke about his second coming when from a Rangers fans perspective there was cause for optimism when you looked at his first spell.
His first season was incredible, no question. But in his second and third season Celtic dropped a lot of points. In his second season I think Celtic won the league finishing 8 points ahead of Aberdeen and 9 points ahead of a Rangers team that had Pedro, Murty and eventually Jimmy Nicholl managing us. That season is one of the most horrendous for us in living memory and yet Celtic were only 9 points better off - considering Celtic took 10 points from the OF games that season our records vs the rest of the league were actually comparable.
It was the same in the third season when Gerrard came in and overhauled the squad. Despite the worst start to a league season in our history and struggling for consistency we were still somehow top of the league in December given the number of points Celtic dropped. It was only post winter break a bit of a gap opened up between the teams.
Celtic would have won the league comfortably had Beale remained but they would likely have dropped the same amount of points as we're seeing now. We were always going to have a chance this season if we could get our own house in order, which is what we managed to do in the end. But still a lot of football to play, Hearts and Killie for us now back to back and will be tough to take 6 points.
posted on 20/2/24
If im gonna be accused of getting carried away then the opposite can be said of others being a $hitebag.
We should be taking 6 points from Hearts and Killie.
If I gave people a free £5 bet and offered you evens against both Hearts at home and Killie away anyone with any sense would put it wins for us in both matches. We will still be strong favourites in those games.
Mags is actually correct, too many people willing to actually make a prediction through fear of it being wrong and getting pulled up for it.
Is there any bear on here that isnt confident we will win these next two games or doesnt feel we are strong favourites?
posted on 20/2/24
They weren't daft.
You started the season with Beale. Although most of you couldn't see it, he was clearly a dud as has been shown by recent events. Had you kept him Celtic would have won the league.
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Yeah but we get told every manager we hire is a dud.
Beales record when he came in last season was terrific - as Celtic fans have been falling over themselves to point out in the last week it was on a par with Clements start.
Unfortunately Beale got carried away with himself and his ego lead to his downfall. He started believing he was some sort of managerial/coaching/recruitment guru.
I am sure Beale is a very good coach - there seem to be a fair few player testimonies to that fact. Hes just a bit of a pwick that thinks he sees the game differently to all the punters that have been watching it for 30+ years and know a pile of keech when they see it.
We have since been told that the guy who has won his Europa League Group, the League cup and top spot in the Prem is just enjoying the new manager bounce that anyone coming in after Beale could have done.
I am happy for our opposition and opposition fans to keep writing us off. So far we have sneaked up into top spot and and the momentum is undoubtedly with us.
If Brendan really is a top class manager then he is going to need to show it in the next few months.
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If im gonna be accused of getting carried away then the opposite can be said of others being a $hitebag.
We should be taking 6 points from Hearts and Killie.
If I gave people a free £5 bet and offered you evens against both Hearts at home and Killie away anyone with any sense would put it wins for us in both matches. We will still be strong favourites in those games.
Mags is actually correct, too many people willing to actually make a prediction through fear of it being wrong and getting pulled up for it.
Is there any bear on here that isnt confident we will win these next two games or doesnt feel we are strong favourites?
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I dont think its being a sheidtbag being concerned about those next two games. Its highly unlikely we will go to the end of the season without dropping points and Killie away on a cold wednesday night in February is one of the toughest assignments we will get. The chances of a game of football breaking out that night are very slim indeed.
Its just being realistic. For me a draw in that one is a respectable result and a point that could be very valuable come may.
We absolutely should be winning on saturday though.
posted on 20/2/24
A fit and firing Sima would improve our title challenge immensely.
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A fit and firing Sima would improve our title challenge immensely.
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And Danilo and Roofe.
Those are our three biggest goal threats besides Tv realistically.
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If im gonna be accused of getting carried away then the opposite can be said of others being a $hitebag.
We should be taking 6 points from Hearts and Killie.
If I gave people a free £5 bet and offered you evens against both Hearts at home and Killie away anyone with any sense would put it wins for us in both matches. We will still be strong favourites in those games.
Mags is actually correct, too many people willing to actually make a prediction through fear of it being wrong and getting pulled up for it.
Is there any bear on here that isnt confident we will win these next two games or doesnt feel we are strong favourites?
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I dont think its being a sheidtbag being concerned about those next two games. Its highly unlikely we will go to the end of the season without dropping points and Killie away on a cold wednesday night in February is one of the toughest assignments we will get. The chances of a game of football breaking out that night are very slim indeed.
Its just being realistic. For me a draw in that one is a respectable result and a point that could be very valuable come may.
We absolutely should be winning on saturday though.
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There's no chance we go without dropping any points and the next two games are against the 3rd best team in the country with a proper finisher so give them chances and continue to be as profligate as we have been and we could drop points.
Killie away is always a concern.
I think we should win both games but i've seen enough football up here to know that those two fixtures could be tough games to win.
If we had a a reliable goal scorer I might feel confident enough to predict wins but I don't, I hope we will win and I think we should.
posted on 20/2/24
comment by Humble Hamish (U21959)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by puyolsnohadahaircut (U6410)
posted 1 minute ago
A fit and firing Sima would improve our title challenge immensely.
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And Danilo and Roofe.
Those are our three biggest goal threats besides Tv realistically.
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Any update on when those two might be back?
posted on 20/2/24
comment by HB Maybe Beale wasn't the mastermind (U21935)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Humble Hamish (U21959)
posted 25 minutes ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 1 minute ago
If im gonna be accused of getting carried away then the opposite can be said of others being a $hitebag.
We should be taking 6 points from Hearts and Killie.
If I gave people a free £5 bet and offered you evens against both Hearts at home and Killie away anyone with any sense would put it wins for us in both matches. We will still be strong favourites in those games.
Mags is actually correct, too many people willing to actually make a prediction through fear of it being wrong and getting pulled up for it.
Is there any bear on here that isnt confident we will win these next two games or doesnt feel we are strong favourites?
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I dont think its being a sheidtbag being concerned about those next two games. Its highly unlikely we will go to the end of the season without dropping points and Killie away on a cold wednesday night in February is one of the toughest assignments we will get. The chances of a game of football breaking out that night are very slim indeed.
Its just being realistic. For me a draw in that one is a respectable result and a point that could be very valuable come may.
We absolutely should be winning on saturday though.
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There's no chance we go without dropping any points and the next two games are against the 3rd best team in the country with a proper finisher so give them chances and continue to be as profligate as we have been and we could drop points.
Killie away is always a concern.
I think we should win both games but i've seen enough football up here to know that those two fixtures could be tough games to win.
If we had a a reliable goal scorer I might feel confident enough to predict wins but I don't, I hope we will win and I think we should.
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"no chance" we beat Killie away and Hearts at home?!?! okay
so you predict we wont win both. I disagree with that
posted on 20/2/24
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 21 minutes ago
comment by HB Maybe Beale wasn't the mastermind (U21935)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Humble Hamish (U21959)
posted 25 minutes ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 1 minute ago
If im gonna be accused of getting carried away then the opposite can be said of others being a $hitebag.
We should be taking 6 points from Hearts and Killie.
If I gave people a free £5 bet and offered you evens against both Hearts at home and Killie away anyone with any sense would put it wins for us in both matches. We will still be strong favourites in those games.
Mags is actually correct, too many people willing to actually make a prediction through fear of it being wrong and getting pulled up for it.
Is there any bear on here that isnt confident we will win these next two games or doesnt feel we are strong favourites?
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I dont think its being a sheidtbag being concerned about those next two games. Its highly unlikely we will go to the end of the season without dropping points and Killie away on a cold wednesday night in February is one of the toughest assignments we will get. The chances of a game of football breaking out that night are very slim indeed.
Its just being realistic. For me a draw in that one is a respectable result and a point that could be very valuable come may.
We absolutely should be winning on saturday though.
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There's no chance we go without dropping any points and the next two games are against the 3rd best team in the country with a proper finisher so give them chances and continue to be as profligate as we have been and we could drop points.
Killie away is always a concern.
I think we should win both games but i've seen enough football up here to know that those two fixtures could be tough games to win.
If we had a a reliable goal scorer I might feel confident enough to predict wins but I don't, I hope we will win and I think we should.
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"no chance" we beat Killie away and Hearts at home?!?! okay
so you predict we wont win both. I disagree with that
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Try reading that again
posted on 20/2/24
You said there is no chance we go without dropping points in our next two games?
posted on 20/2/24
ahh you mean for the rest of the season ? No one is claiming that?
posted on 20/2/24
We’re going to drop points, these are two tough games.
Some fans are wary of those fixtures with good reason and don’t share your confidence. We hope you’re right but knowing our team and lack of clinical edge I can understand why.
Get through those two unscathed and the confidence will grow. Both are big games for us right now and both would be a big 3 points.
posted on 20/2/24
comment by HB Maybe Beale wasn't the mastermind (U21935)
posted 1 minute ago
We’re going to drop points, these are two tough games.
Some fans are wary of those fixtures with good reason and don’t share your confidence. We hope you’re right but knowing our team and lack of clinical edge I can understand why.
Get through those two unscathed and the confidence will grow. Both are big games for us right now and both would be a big 3 points.
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be wary yeah , but we will be favourites and like I said I dont understand why the lack in confidence, if you gave a fan a free 5 quid bet and evens odds for either team, the money would go on us.
We will be favourites and rightly so, are you saying you dont think we will win them both?
I dont think we will drop points before the OF.
posted on 20/2/24
We should be confident of beating hearts at home, regardless of their form. Because we should be confident against any opponent at home.
Killie away is probably scary tissue due to coming unstuck there in the past, the horror show of a pitch and the fact McInnes has them well organised and carrying a threat.
We are different under Phil though and it's less about how do we avoid slipping up and more about what do we do well to ensure a win. It's only a subtle mindset change but you can see it's working
posted on 20/2/24
comment by super phoenix rangers - comments on this forum are not mine but a fictionalised version loosely based on someone similar to me (U14864)
posted 1 minute ago
We should be confident of beating hearts at home, regardless of their form. Because we should be confident against any opponent at home.
Killie away is probably scary tissue due to coming unstuck there in the past, the horror show of a pitch and the fact McInnes has them well organised and carrying a threat.
We are different under Phil though and it's less about how do we avoid slipping up and more about what do we do well to ensure a win. It's only a subtle mindset change but you can see it's working
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too many people too scared to back the team through either fear or some sorta jinx, or refuse to put it in black and white on here through fear of being pulled up.
posted on 20/2/24
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by super phoenix rangers - comments on this forum are not mine but a fictionalised version loosely based on someone similar to me (U14864)
posted 1 minute ago
We should be confident of beating hearts at home, regardless of their form. Because we should be confident against any opponent at home.
Killie away is probably scary tissue due to coming unstuck there in the past, the horror show of a pitch and the fact McInnes has them well organised and carrying a threat.
We are different under Phil though and it's less about how do we avoid slipping up and more about what do we do well to ensure a win. It's only a subtle mindset change but you can see it's working
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too many people too scared to back the team through either fear or some sorta jinx, or refuse to put it in black and white on here through fear of being pulled up.
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It's scar tissue from being let down so often in the past 5 or so years. So it's understandable, the trust has to be built but it's getting there
posted on 20/2/24
comment by super phoenix rangers - comments on this forum are not mine but a fictionalised version loosely based on someone similar to me (U14864)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by super phoenix rangers - comments on this forum are not mine but a fictionalised version loosely based on someone similar to me (U14864)
posted 1 minute ago
We should be confident of beating hearts at home, regardless of their form. Because we should be confident against any opponent at home.
Killie away is probably scary tissue due to coming unstuck there in the past, the horror show of a pitch and the fact McInnes has them well organised and carrying a threat.
We are different under Phil though and it's less about how do we avoid slipping up and more about what do we do well to ensure a win. It's only a subtle mindset change but you can see it's working
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too many people too scared to back the team through either fear or some sorta jinx, or refuse to put it in black and white on here through fear of being pulled up.
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It's scar tissue from being let down so often in the past 5 or so years. So it's understandable, the trust has to be built but it's getting there
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agree but its still creates a fear for whatever reason.
I dont look at the past, I look at the present.
You can see the team have a different mentality, we are hungry again there is a steelyness about us now.
to me this team look like a team that aint bottlers.
Our defence is excellent just now, the team have real belief and we have a boss that knows how to see this scenario out.
posted on 20/2/24
I am not sure why it should be labelled a 'fear to back the team'.
I absolutely back the team but I am realistic that anything can happen in football. And Killie away on a freezing cold Feb evening on a plastic pitch against Deek McInnes team that will niggle like fook then hit the deck every time a Gers player breathes on them will be a tough shift.
In terms of risk - for me the Killie game is the highest risk in the next few games. I am absolutely not taking a win for granted.
And I think a draw against Killie away this season is a decent result for a team trying to win the league. Celtic have played there twice and lost twice this season so a draw would represent a better performance than our nearest rivals - which is kinda how you win leagues.
posted on 20/2/24
comment by Humble Hamish (U21959)
posted 5 minutes ago
I am not sure why it should be labelled a 'fear to back the team'.
I absolutely back the team but I am realistic that anything can happen in football. And Killie away on a freezing cold Feb evening on a plastic pitch against Deek McInnes team that will niggle like fook then hit the deck every time a Gers player breathes on them will be a tough shift.
In terms of risk - for me the Killie game is the highest risk in the next few games. I am absolutely not taking a win for granted.
And I think a draw against Killie away this season is a decent result for a team trying to win the league. Celtic have played there twice and lost twice this season so a draw would represent a better performance than our nearest rivals - which is kinda how you win leagues.
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So I ask you who do you think we will drop points to before the OF?
Killie is the highest risk, i agree. I am also confident we will beat them cos we have better players and a better manager.
of course anything can happen, Im saying I THINK we win the games, not that we WILL win them.
I dont see me backing them to win and expecting them to win as taking it for granted.
a draw away to Killie right now would be a poor result.
posted on 20/2/24
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Humble Hamish (U21959)
posted 5 minutes ago
I am not sure why it should be labelled a 'fear to back the team'.
I absolutely back the team but I am realistic that anything can happen in football. And Killie away on a freezing cold Feb evening on a plastic pitch against Deek McInnes team that will niggle like fook then hit the deck every time a Gers player breathes on them will be a tough shift.
In terms of risk - for me the Killie game is the highest risk in the next few games. I am absolutely not taking a win for granted.
And I think a draw against Killie away this season is a decent result for a team trying to win the league. Celtic have played there twice and lost twice this season so a draw would represent a better performance than our nearest rivals - which is kinda how you win leagues.
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So I ask you who do you think we will drop points to before the OF?
Killie is the highest risk, i agree. I am also confident we will beat them cos we have better players and a better manager.
of course anything can happen, Im saying I THINK we win the games, not that we WILL win them.
I dont see me backing them to win and expecting them to win as taking it for granted.
a draw away to Killie right now would be a poor result.
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So do you think if we draw away to Killie we wont win the league?
Because for me thats the only scenario it becomes a bad result in the grand scheme of things.
We drew away at Pittodrie but then so did celtic - so you can argue that it didnt damage our attempt to win the league. It was of course an opportunity missed but lets be realistic - we are still far from the finished article and have to expect bumps in the road.
I dont expect us to lose or draw to killie. I think we are capable of winning the game. I just get the feeling its going to be a real tough one for us and it wouldnt surprise me if we drop points. I wouldnt be devastated with a draw.
posted on 20/2/24
comment by Humble Hamish (U21959)
posted 23 seconds ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
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So do you think if we draw away to Killie we wont win the league?
Because for me thats the only scenario it becomes a bad result in the grand scheme of things.
We drew away at Pittodrie but then so did celtic - so you can argue that it didnt damage our attempt to win the league. It was of course an opportunity missed but lets be realistic - we are still far from the finished article and have to expect bumps in the road.
I dont expect us to lose or draw to killie. I think we are capable of winning the game. I just get the feeling its going to be a real tough one for us and it wouldnt surprise me if we drop points. I wouldnt be devastated with a draw.
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we should be beating every team whose finances are dwarfed by us.
Anything but a win against any team outwith celtic home or away is a bad result.
I never said it would be easy, why are people assuming that? saying I think we will beat Hearts and Killie is not me saying they will be easy games. But games we should be winning and any game that we should win and dont is a bad result IMO.
If we win the league but draw against Livi at home will always be a bad result and not a decent or good result cos we won the league, it would still be a poor result.
To me you post says that you do expect us to beat Killie but for some reason are reluctant to say so.
posted on 20/2/24
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by Humble Hamish (U21959)
posted 23 seconds ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
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So do you think if we draw away to Killie we wont win the league?
Because for me thats the only scenario it becomes a bad result in the grand scheme of things.
We drew away at Pittodrie but then so did celtic - so you can argue that it didnt damage our attempt to win the league. It was of course an opportunity missed but lets be realistic - we are still far from the finished article and have to expect bumps in the road.
I dont expect us to lose or draw to killie. I think we are capable of winning the game. I just get the feeling its going to be a real tough one for us and it wouldnt surprise me if we drop points. I wouldnt be devastated with a draw.
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we should be beating every team whose finances are dwarfed by us.
Anything but a win against any team outwith celtic home or away is a bad result.
I never said it would be easy, why are people assuming that? saying I think we will beat Hearts and Killie is not me saying they will be easy games. But games we should be winning and any game that we should win and dont is a bad result IMO.
If we win the league but draw against Livi at home will always be a bad result and not a decent or good result cos we won the league, it would still be a poor result.
To me you post says that you do expect us to beat Killie but for some reason are reluctant to say so.
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I dont EXPECT us to win at Killie. Certainly not in the way that I expected us to beat Ross Co or St J.
Of course we can win at Killie but I also think theres a decent chance we might drop points. And in the context of this seasons league challenge I dont think that would turn out to be a disaster.
I agree we should beat everyone whose finances are dwarfed by us. But I have watched enough football to know life isnt like that.
On their day Killie are more than capable of taking something from us.
If we win at killie its a great result.
Im a big picture pragmatist. Boring AF aye but means I dont get too high or too low. If we draw with Killie and win the league then its a great result
posted on 20/2/24
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 1 hour, 10 minutes ago
comment by HB Maybe Beale wasn't the mastermind (U21935)
posted 1 minute ago
We’re going to drop points, these are two tough games.
Some fans are wary of those fixtures with good reason and don’t share your confidence. We hope you’re right but knowing our team and lack of clinical edge I can understand why.
Get through those two unscathed and the confidence will grow. Both are big games for us right now and both would be a big 3 points.
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be wary yeah , but we will be favourites and like I said I dont understand why the lack in confidence, if you gave a fan a free 5 quid bet and evens odds for either team, the money would go on us.
We will be favourites and rightly so, are you saying you dont think we will win them both?
I dont think we will drop points before the OF.
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If i had a free fiver I had to bet then I would bet, would I get a fiver out of my own pocket and bet on Rangers to win those two games, no I wouldn't.
I think they can and should but not confident enough to back them with my own money.
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