West Ham and Liverpool got decent draws, Brighton and Villa got stinkers. However, if Villa progress then the rest of the tournament should be a doddle.

Need Liverpool and City winning the EL and CL for the Co efficient

We've got City in between the two legs so that will have to be factored in.

Villa got Ajax, that is far from a stinker. Despite some improvement recently, it is an absolutely shiiite Ajax side that Villa should beat with comfort.
Freiburg is a far tougher tie.

comment by Peter O'Hanraha-hanrahan (U1217)
posted 17 minutes ago
We've got City in between the two legs so that will have to be factored in.
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Ouch.

City's R16 return leg is on the 6th, and the first leg result allows for at least some rotation. QFs aren't until April.

comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 21 minutes ago
Villa got Ajax, that is far from a stinker. Despite some improvement recently, it is an absolutely shiiite Ajax side that Villa should beat with comfort.
Freiburg is a far tougher tie.
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Ajax is a fantastic tie for Villa. It's the bloody ECL, you won't get many chances there to face a European great.

comment by Striketeam7 - There used to be a football club over there (U18109)
posted 43 minutes ago
West Ham and Liverpool got decent draws, Brighton and Villa got stinkers. However, if Villa progress then the rest of the tournament should be a doddle.

Need Liverpool and City winning the EL and CL for the Co efficient
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Just wondering, is that effectively a lost cause if Arsenal get knocked out by Porto?

comment by Striketeam7 - There used to be a football club over there (U18109)
posted 47 minutes ago
West Ham and Liverpool got decent draws, Brighton and Villa got stinkers. However, if Villa progress then the rest of the tournament should be a doddle.

Need Liverpool and City winning the EL and CL for the Co efficient
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Rangers got the toughest draw. Brighton fancy to beat Roma who aren’t in a great place. Hopefully West Ham get facked off. Fack the coefficient I don’t want 5 teams from any country in the CL, is boring and predictable enough as is. Even if that’s us. 4 teams is too many as is

Brighton fancy to beat Roma who aren’t in a great place
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They recently got shot of Mourinho. There's no better place to be.

comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 3 minutes ago
Brighton fancy to beat Roma who aren’t in a great place
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They recently got shot of Mourinho. There's no better place to be.
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Roma were dire last night.

comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 1 hour, 18 minutes ago
comment by Peter O'Hanraha-hanrahan (U1217)
posted 17 minutes ago
We've got City in between the two legs so that will have to be factored in.
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Ouch.

City's R16 return leg is on the 6th, and the first leg result allows for at least some rotation. QFs aren't until April.
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We will definitely be rotating.

i love that people think of bygone eras when they see certain team names

comment by Taki Minamino (U20650)
posted 36 minutes ago
i love that people think of bygone eras when they see certain team names
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The era where footy was still a sport and not just about money?

Good draw.

comment by HB Fash (U21935)
posted 3 hours, 3 minutes ago
comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 3 minutes ago
Brighton fancy to beat Roma who aren’t in a great place
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They recently got shot of Mourinho. There's no better place to be.
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Roma were dire last night.
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That's beside the point.

comment by Baz tard - Ineos your face (U19119)
posted 1 hour, 30 minutes ago
comment by Taki Minamino (U20650)
posted 36 minutes ago
i love that people think of bygone eras when they see certain team names
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The era where footy was still a sport and not just about money?
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im curious what date would you give for that?

8 August 2016??

comment by Taki Minamino (U20650)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Baz tard - Ineos your face (U19119)
posted 1 hour, 30 minutes ago
comment by Taki Minamino (U20650)
posted 36 minutes ago
i love that people think of bygone eras when they see certain team names
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The era where footy was still a sport and not just about money?
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im curious what date would you give for that?

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Pre PL

fair enough , but anyway i was referring to claims that villa and brighton had terrible draws

comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 4 hours, 19 minutes ago
Villa got Ajax, that is far from a stinker. Despite some improvement recently, it is an absolutely shiiite Ajax side that Villa should beat with comfort.
Freiburg is a far tougher tie.
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Ajax have lost a single league game since losing to Brighton in the Europa and sacking their manager, they are back in form but admittedly woeful last night.

Going to the Amsterdam arena for a knock out is going to be tough for Villa who blew hot and cold in this comp so far.

comment by Taki Minamino (U20650)
posted 3 minutes ago
fair enough, but anyway i was referring to claims that villa and brighton had terrible draws
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Na, they got fairly decent draws. Ajax aren’t the Ajax of old, and Roma aren’t great at the moment I expect both to progress, rangers could go either way, hope West Ham get stuffed and Liverpool should be comfortable

comment by 115 reasons why ours is better (U22832)
posted 3 hours, 42 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - There used to be a football club over there (U18109)
posted 43 minutes ago
West Ham and Liverpool got decent draws, Brighton and Villa got stinkers. However, if Villa progress then the rest of the tournament should be a doddle.

Need Liverpool and City winning the EL and CL for the Co efficient
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Just wondering, is that effectively a lost cause if Arsenal get knocked out by Porto?
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After last nights results, Opta stats has Englands chances of claiming one of the additional spots at 80%, with Germany our nearest challengers at 20%

Germany only have 5 sides left in Europe now after Frankfurt we’re knocked out last night. Dortmund and Bayern should progress in the CL but Liepzig are almost certainly going out. Leverkusen should go far in the Europa but Freiburg are expected to be beaten by West Ham who already beat them home and away in the group stage.

Spain have 4 sides left but 3 are in the CL and they are probably already too far behind, their odds of getting an additional place stand at 0.8%

Basically England has to really faaack up to miss out from here

comment by Baz tard - Ineos your face (U19119)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Taki Minamino (U20650)
posted 3 minutes ago
fair enough, but anyway i was referring to claims that villa and brighton had terrible draws
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Na, they got fairly decent draws. Ajax aren’t the Ajax of old, and Roma aren’t great at the moment I expect both to progress, rangers could go either way, hope West Ham get stuffed and Liverpool should be comfortable
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Roma have won the conference league and made the Europa final the last 2 seasons - Absolute joke to think that’s a good draw for Brighton. Very confident Roma win this

Ajax are back in good form since sacking their manager - Villa May progress but it won’t be a walkover.

comment by Striketeam7 - There used to be a football club over there (U18109)
posted 17 minutes ago
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 4 hours, 19 minutes ago
Villa got Ajax, that is far from a stinker. Despite some improvement recently, it is an absolutely shiiite Ajax side that Villa should beat with comfort.
Freiburg is a far tougher tie.
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Ajax have lost a single league game since losing to Brighton in the Europa and sacking their manager, they are back in form but admittedly woeful last night.

Going to the Amsterdam arena for a knock out is going to be tough for Villa who blew hot and cold in this comp so far.
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Pretty even between Ajax and Villa in my view. Perhaps Villa with a very slight edge because they can really nail teams at home when in the mood. Then again, they can really get nailed away from home too so...

comment by Peter O'Hanraha-hanrahan (U1217)
posted 4 hours, 11 minutes ago
comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 1 hour, 18 minutes ago
comment by Peter O'Hanraha-hanrahan (U1217)
posted 17 minutes ago
We've got City in between the two legs so that will have to be factored in.
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Ouch.

City's R16 return leg is on the 6th, and the first leg result allows for at least some rotation. QFs aren't until April.
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We will definitely be rotating.
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That's if we have any players left to rotate

it'll be fine