We can conclude that you're in deep shat.
Can always sell players for 60 million, who are on their last year of contract. to Man-united such as Mason Mount . that was an amazing deal.
Will be interesting to see your accounts for the 22/23 season. usually released about this time of year.
Your only real option this summer will be to sell players that are in demand, this likely means selling players the club ideally want to keep.
The reality is that unless you somehow get Europe then the likes of Gallagher, Enzo, Caicedo, Palmer, James will all be available for the right price. If Man United offer £80m for Palmer then Chelsea more or less have to sell. The alternative is a points deduction and not being able to access UEFA competition - even though that one doesn’t look like much of a concern anyway
Would anyone really want to spend decent money on Enzo or Caicedo?
Both bought at about 4x the value of the players.
One of the issues is that some of the players you would find easier to sell will probably be at the euros, making the window very tight in terms of selling them before 30 June to be in line with FFP.
comment by Zein Mayassi (U21076)
posted 1 minute ago
One of the issues is that some of the players you would find easier to sell will probably be at the euros, making the window very tight in terms of selling them before 30 June to be in line with FFP.
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good point!
Its gonna be a fire sale at Chelsea and clubs will be all over you like vultures.
comment by Striketeam7 - There used to be a football club... (U18109)
posted 1 hour, 25 minutes ago
Your only real option this summer will be to sell players that are in demand, this likely means selling players the club ideally want to keep.
The reality is that unless you somehow get Europe then the likes of Gallagher, Enzo, Caicedo, Palmer, James will all be available for the right price. If Man United offer £80m for Palmer then Chelsea more or less have to sell. The alternative is a points deduction and not being able to access UEFA competition - even though that one doesn’t look like much of a concern anyway
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Over our dead bodies are we selling Palmer. Dream on lol.
comment by SUPERB (U6486)
posted 40 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - There used to be a football club... (U18109)
posted 1 hour, 25 minutes ago
Your only real option this summer will be to sell players that are in demand, this likely means selling players the club ideally want to keep.
The reality is that unless you somehow get Europe then the likes of Gallagher, Enzo, Caicedo, Palmer, James will all be available for the right price. If Man United offer £80m for Palmer then Chelsea more or less have to sell. The alternative is a points deduction and not being able to access UEFA competition - even though that one doesn’t look like much of a concern anyway
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Over our dead bodies are we selling Palmer. Dream on lol.
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You may not have a choice, other than keep Palmer but face a points deduction and a European ban.
You lot are in the schitt big time because your owners gambled that with a big outlay you would be back in the CL and could offset costs. Instead you have a manager that isn’t working out, no CL football again and very likely no Euro football of any description again. Loads of flops on your book that have killed you in terms of FFP. A ludicrous wage bill for a mid table team the last 2 seasons. A ground you cannot make bigger. More stringent rules around sponsorship and very few players other clubs will buy.
If the right offer comes in for Palmer I don’t see how Chelsea can refuse - your not making big dents on FFP outside of Palmer and home grown players, that’s a fact. No one is paying huge money for Lukaku, Sterling, or Miss Jackson
Of course we can refuse. We're not in administration lol. There's no chance we sell Palmer.
comment by SUPERB (U6486)
posted 32 minutes ago
Of course we can refuse. We're not in administration lol. There's no chance we sell Palmer.
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You could refuse and then be deducted points for not complying with FFP. You have to sell a certain amount of players to raise a certain amount of funds by 30th June to meet FFP or you will get a points deduction - how do you not know this?
Oh no not a points deduction. We'd have to finish 11th instead of 10th lol.
And we're not selling Palmer this summer, I'll happily make a bet with you about it. You can change my username to whatever you want for the next year if we sell Palmer this summer. And I can change your username to whatever I want for the next year if we don't sell Palmer this summer.
Deal ?
I believe that Clearlake have left us in a situation where the only players who we can let leave are the youth team players, those who have come through the ranks and maybe Madueke and Sanchez. Gusto we have to keep but the rest would make us huge osses.
Selling Chalobah, Gallagher, Sanchez, Madueke would allow us to buy an experienced midfielder and then if we convince Lukaku to play and use a system for him, we have a semblance of a team.
What we lack most of all is experience in the middle of the park and a striker. A more setted, calmer midfiled would mean we don't lose possession so much in dangerous areas. We are the authors of our downfall far too often by playing silly hospital passes when we play out from the back. I truly believe that Fernandez and Caicedo can become good players but they play far too deep and facing oour goal when receiving the ball - they are immediately under pressure. When Enzo receives in space, facing forward, head up, he's a completely different prospect.
Can't see anyone being interested in a lot of the players to be quite honest.
James - Great player but a clear crock
Chilwell - Nosedived since joining Chelsea
Caicedo - "Not Gary" made him look much better than he is
Enzo - See above
Gallagher - Good player for a team going for 4-7th but that is all.
Mudryk - You were bent over big time on this one
Sterling - Past it
Cucu - No idea what anyone saw in him
Sanchez - See above
Jackson - Still raw, but not sure he will make it at the top level.
Nkunku - Crock
Palmer - Would be a great signing for anyone. Would you really cash in this quickly? I'd take him in a heartbeat.
Lavia - who? Oh, the guy that said to Caicedo after the final loss "but the wages are good here bro".
Broja - might get £10-15m from a lower down team like Everton if they had any money.
Petrovic - looks like he could be a fantastic keeper. Better than Raya and Ramsdale at Arsenal and clearly Onana at Utd.
Collwill - Very good, but other than the soon to be off Silva, your best CB. I'm sure he'd raise a lot of cash though.
Fofana - Crock
The other guys brought in like Desasi and badashille etc. might get a move, but at at least half what was paid.
What happened to Chelsea, other than the new owner. He must have read the moneyball book upside down and back to front.
Sacking Tuchel was a huge mistake too. Whilst I wouldn't want him replacing Klopp (not the right character), he had just won the CL and finished 3rd the following season. I gather Bohley didn't like him because he said no to some of the crazy ideas he had on player signings etc.
Plus, Poch is not a winner. Didn't he even fail to win the farmers league in one of his seasons too? Same season Tuchel (who poch replaced) brought the the CL too.
The problem is, unless he goes or lets someone else do the running of the club who is capable, expect to be fighting for the Europa Conference League for the foreseeable.
Does it make me laugh? Yes. Would I rather Chelsea weren't languishing in mid table? Yes, it is better for the league that Chelsea are up there.
The one I am worried about us selling is Gallagher as I can see the owners being stupid enough to do that sadly.
This amortisation stuff is crazy and the more I learn about it the more some of the crazy decisions my own club have made start to make sense. It’s also shown me that Boehly and his cronies are even more incompetent than I gave them credit for. You are probably going to have to take a ban in Europe to get these players off your books so you may aswell do it now when you have no chance of qualifying for Europe anyway
comment by SUPERB (U6486)
posted 2 hours, 56 minutes ago
The one I am worried about us selling is Gallagher as I can see the owners being stupid enough to do that sadly.
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Owners see him as a way to redeem the financial mess they made. Still no progress on contract for a player who is arguably our best performer. Soon the owners will spin it that Gallagher wanted out and the fans will sing nasty songs about him just like Mount who was put in exactly the same position re contract. I rue the day we lost Roman.
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posted on 1/3/24
We can conclude that you're in deep shat.
posted on 1/3/24
Can always sell players for 60 million, who are on their last year of contract. to Man-united such as Mason Mount . that was an amazing deal.
posted on 1/3/24
Will be interesting to see your accounts for the 22/23 season. usually released about this time of year.
posted on 1/3/24
Your only real option this summer will be to sell players that are in demand, this likely means selling players the club ideally want to keep.
The reality is that unless you somehow get Europe then the likes of Gallagher, Enzo, Caicedo, Palmer, James will all be available for the right price. If Man United offer £80m for Palmer then Chelsea more or less have to sell. The alternative is a points deduction and not being able to access UEFA competition - even though that one doesn’t look like much of a concern anyway
posted on 1/3/24
Would anyone really want to spend decent money on Enzo or Caicedo?
Both bought at about 4x the value of the players.
posted on 1/3/24
One of the issues is that some of the players you would find easier to sell will probably be at the euros, making the window very tight in terms of selling them before 30 June to be in line with FFP.
posted on 1/3/24
comment by Zein Mayassi (U21076)
posted 1 minute ago
One of the issues is that some of the players you would find easier to sell will probably be at the euros, making the window very tight in terms of selling them before 30 June to be in line with FFP.
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good point!
Its gonna be a fire sale at Chelsea and clubs will be all over you like vultures.
posted on 1/3/24
comment by Striketeam7 - There used to be a football club... (U18109)
posted 1 hour, 25 minutes ago
Your only real option this summer will be to sell players that are in demand, this likely means selling players the club ideally want to keep.
The reality is that unless you somehow get Europe then the likes of Gallagher, Enzo, Caicedo, Palmer, James will all be available for the right price. If Man United offer £80m for Palmer then Chelsea more or less have to sell. The alternative is a points deduction and not being able to access UEFA competition - even though that one doesn’t look like much of a concern anyway
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Over our dead bodies are we selling Palmer. Dream on lol.
posted on 1/3/24
comment by SUPERB (U6486)
posted 40 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - There used to be a football club... (U18109)
posted 1 hour, 25 minutes ago
Your only real option this summer will be to sell players that are in demand, this likely means selling players the club ideally want to keep.
The reality is that unless you somehow get Europe then the likes of Gallagher, Enzo, Caicedo, Palmer, James will all be available for the right price. If Man United offer £80m for Palmer then Chelsea more or less have to sell. The alternative is a points deduction and not being able to access UEFA competition - even though that one doesn’t look like much of a concern anyway
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Over our dead bodies are we selling Palmer. Dream on lol.
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You may not have a choice, other than keep Palmer but face a points deduction and a European ban.
You lot are in the schitt big time because your owners gambled that with a big outlay you would be back in the CL and could offset costs. Instead you have a manager that isn’t working out, no CL football again and very likely no Euro football of any description again. Loads of flops on your book that have killed you in terms of FFP. A ludicrous wage bill for a mid table team the last 2 seasons. A ground you cannot make bigger. More stringent rules around sponsorship and very few players other clubs will buy.
If the right offer comes in for Palmer I don’t see how Chelsea can refuse - your not making big dents on FFP outside of Palmer and home grown players, that’s a fact. No one is paying huge money for Lukaku, Sterling, or Miss Jackson
posted on 1/3/24
Of course we can refuse. We're not in administration lol. There's no chance we sell Palmer.
posted on 1/3/24
comment by SUPERB (U6486)
posted 32 minutes ago
Of course we can refuse. We're not in administration lol. There's no chance we sell Palmer.
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You could refuse and then be deducted points for not complying with FFP. You have to sell a certain amount of players to raise a certain amount of funds by 30th June to meet FFP or you will get a points deduction - how do you not know this?
posted on 1/3/24
Oh no not a points deduction. We'd have to finish 11th instead of 10th lol.
And we're not selling Palmer this summer, I'll happily make a bet with you about it. You can change my username to whatever you want for the next year if we sell Palmer this summer. And I can change your username to whatever I want for the next year if we don't sell Palmer this summer.
Deal ?
posted on 1/3/24
I believe that Clearlake have left us in a situation where the only players who we can let leave are the youth team players, those who have come through the ranks and maybe Madueke and Sanchez. Gusto we have to keep but the rest would make us huge osses.
Selling Chalobah, Gallagher, Sanchez, Madueke would allow us to buy an experienced midfielder and then if we convince Lukaku to play and use a system for him, we have a semblance of a team.
What we lack most of all is experience in the middle of the park and a striker. A more setted, calmer midfiled would mean we don't lose possession so much in dangerous areas. We are the authors of our downfall far too often by playing silly hospital passes when we play out from the back. I truly believe that Fernandez and Caicedo can become good players but they play far too deep and facing oour goal when receiving the ball - they are immediately under pressure. When Enzo receives in space, facing forward, head up, he's a completely different prospect.
posted on 1/3/24
Can't see anyone being interested in a lot of the players to be quite honest.
James - Great player but a clear crock
Chilwell - Nosedived since joining Chelsea
Caicedo - "Not Gary" made him look much better than he is
Enzo - See above
Gallagher - Good player for a team going for 4-7th but that is all.
Mudryk - You were bent over big time on this one
Sterling - Past it
Cucu - No idea what anyone saw in him
Sanchez - See above
Jackson - Still raw, but not sure he will make it at the top level.
Nkunku - Crock
Palmer - Would be a great signing for anyone. Would you really cash in this quickly? I'd take him in a heartbeat.
Lavia - who? Oh, the guy that said to Caicedo after the final loss "but the wages are good here bro".
Broja - might get £10-15m from a lower down team like Everton if they had any money.
Petrovic - looks like he could be a fantastic keeper. Better than Raya and Ramsdale at Arsenal and clearly Onana at Utd.
Collwill - Very good, but other than the soon to be off Silva, your best CB. I'm sure he'd raise a lot of cash though.
Fofana - Crock
The other guys brought in like Desasi and badashille etc. might get a move, but at at least half what was paid.
What happened to Chelsea, other than the new owner. He must have read the moneyball book upside down and back to front.
Sacking Tuchel was a huge mistake too. Whilst I wouldn't want him replacing Klopp (not the right character), he had just won the CL and finished 3rd the following season. I gather Bohley didn't like him because he said no to some of the crazy ideas he had on player signings etc.
Plus, Poch is not a winner. Didn't he even fail to win the farmers league in one of his seasons too? Same season Tuchel (who poch replaced) brought the the CL too.
The problem is, unless he goes or lets someone else do the running of the club who is capable, expect to be fighting for the Europa Conference League for the foreseeable.
Does it make me laugh? Yes. Would I rather Chelsea weren't languishing in mid table? Yes, it is better for the league that Chelsea are up there.
posted on 1/3/24
The one I am worried about us selling is Gallagher as I can see the owners being stupid enough to do that sadly.
posted on 1/3/24
This amortisation stuff is crazy and the more I learn about it the more some of the crazy decisions my own club have made start to make sense. It’s also shown me that Boehly and his cronies are even more incompetent than I gave them credit for. You are probably going to have to take a ban in Europe to get these players off your books so you may aswell do it now when you have no chance of qualifying for Europe anyway
posted on 1/3/24
comment by SUPERB (U6486)
posted 2 hours, 56 minutes ago
The one I am worried about us selling is Gallagher as I can see the owners being stupid enough to do that sadly.
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Owners see him as a way to redeem the financial mess they made. Still no progress on contract for a player who is arguably our best performer. Soon the owners will spin it that Gallagher wanted out and the fans will sing nasty songs about him just like Mount who was put in exactly the same position re contract. I rue the day we lost Roman.
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