comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 2 hours, 6 minutes ago
Only in a political environment where radical right ideas are normalised would the NYT be regarded as 'left-wing'. Its centre of gravity is closer to the Democrat party but that's because the party is relatively centrist. It's also very committed to its brand as an impartial 'newspaper of record' and therefore publishes conservative opinion writers as well as liberal ones. And it has been long observed that it tends to go aggressively after Democrat politicians in its reporting - e.g. making the Hilary emails 'scandal' front page for an extended period while treating more substantive worries about Trump differently. I don't think that's anti-Democrat bias, but a slightly pathological need to demonstrate balance (a bit like when Gary Neville goes overboard in praising United's opponents). There are even lots of NYT parody accounts on social media that play on this dynamic.
That's not to say it's a bad paper to read, nor that the offer 52 has mentioned isn't well worth taking up.
As for wine, I'm reasonably well off but paying more than a tenner for a bottle seems extravagant.
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It's similar to the Grauniad, a newspaper I've read and enjoyed all my life, my parents got it so I started young.
I also get the Times, DT, and Le Monde. The French Guardian. I tend to look at them all, but read the Guardian. Reading a newspaper doesn't necessarily mean you agree with all their viewpoints.
A golfing mate liked to pull my leg about the Guardian, but he didn't read it, just picked up odd bits he didn't agree with. Even the DT is worth a look, I ignore the politics but their are plenty of good reports.
Hey, old fella, Quebec ain't American. And I'm not a Bolshevik. So get that straight.
NYT is a leftist paper?
Anat Schwartz. Why would a leftie paper hire her? Get out of your bubble and have the balls to name this "American Bolshevik" you silly old fart.
NYT is traditional conservative
Witch is now leftist 2 the mouthbreathers
Aren't they funded by the NYT? I like the NYT and have a subscsciprtion. Getting the Athletic free on top is a great deal, but feck me the Athletic can be a bore. I wouldn't pay to read it on its own.
comment by son of quebec (U8127)
posted 3 hours, 11 minutes ago
Hey, old fella, Quebec ain't American. And I'm not a Bolshevik. So get that straight.
NYT is a leftist paper?
Anat Schwartz. Why would a leftie paper hire her? Get out of your bubble and have the balls to name this "American Bolshevik" you silly old fart.
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Canadian American, same thing.
The Telegraph has a left wing columnist and they are right wing. They all like to present themselves as centrist to a degree.
But I read it. They are Democrat supporting and have a leftist viewpoint. If you don't think they are good for you.
So your a Canadian bolshevic.
Why is old an insult? Don't you want to get there.
The Telegraph is the mouthpiece of the Conservative party. Everybody is aware of that.
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by son of quebec (U8127)
posted 3 hours, 11 minutes ago
Hey, old fella, Quebec ain't American. And I'm not a Bolshevik. So get that straight.
NYT is a leftist paper?
Anat Schwartz. Why would a leftie paper hire her? Get out of your bubble and have the balls to name this "American Bolshevik" you silly old fart.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Canadian American, same thing.
The Telegraph has a left wing columnist and they are right wing. They all like to present themselves as centrist to a degree.
But I read it. They are Democrat supporting and have a leftist viewpoint. If you don't think they are good for you.
So your a Canadian bolshevic.
Why is old an insult? Don't you want to get there.
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Canadian and American are the same thing?
This is why I think you're a trou de cul.
comment by son of quebec (U8127)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by son of quebec (U8127)
posted 3 hours, 11 minutes ago
Hey, old fella, Quebec ain't American. And I'm not a Bolshevik. So get that straight.
NYT is a leftist paper?
Anat Schwartz. Why would a leftie paper hire her? Get out of your bubble and have the balls to name this "American Bolshevik" you silly old fart.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Canadian American, same thing.
The Telegraph has a left wing columnist and they are right wing. They all like to present themselves as centrist to a degree.
But I read it. They are Democrat supporting and have a leftist viewpoint. If you don't think they are good for you.
So your a Canadian bolshevic.
Why is old an insult? Don't you want to get there.
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Canadian and American are the same thing?
This is why I think you're a trou de cul.
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I knew you would like that. In all fairness Canadians are much brighter, and you wouldn't elect Trump, especially for a second time. Bisou.
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by son of quebec (U8127)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by son of quebec (U8127)
posted 3 hours, 11 minutes ago
Hey, old fella, Quebec ain't American. And I'm not a Bolshevik. So get that straight.
NYT is a leftist paper?
Anat Schwartz. Why would a leftie paper hire her? Get out of your bubble and have the balls to name this "American Bolshevik" you silly old fart.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Canadian American, same thing.
The Telegraph has a left wing columnist and they are right wing. They all like to present themselves as centrist to a degree.
But I read it. They are Democrat supporting and have a leftist viewpoint. If you don't think they are good for you.
So your a Canadian bolshevic.
Why is old an insult? Don't you want to get there.
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Canadian and American are the same thing?
This is why I think you're a trou de cul.
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I knew you would like that. In all fairness Canadians are much brighter, and you wouldn't elect Trump, especially for a second time. Bisou.
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Do you have a Wolfe day there?
Canadians aren't much brighter.(Truck drivers who think they should be able to change the constitution.) There are just more azzoles in the US.
In fact I wouldn't rate the intelligence of nationalities based on the stupid people you might hear from any nation. Kinda makes one look bigoted.
Anyway find out who Anat Schwartz is and tell me a left wing rag would hire such a beast.
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by son of quebec (U8127)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by son of quebec (U8127)
posted 3 hours, 11 minutes ago
Hey, old fella, Quebec ain't American. And I'm not a Bolshevik. So get that straight.
NYT is a leftist paper?
Anat Schwartz. Why would a leftie paper hire her? Get out of your bubble and have the balls to name this "American Bolshevik" you silly old fart.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Canadian American, same thing.
The Telegraph has a left wing columnist and they are right wing. They all like to present themselves as centrist to a degree.
But I read it. They are Democrat supporting and have a leftist viewpoint. If you don't think they are good for you.
So your a Canadian bolshevic.
Why is old an insult? Don't you want to get there.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Canadian and American are the same thing?
This is why I think you're a trou de cul.
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I knew you would like that. In all fairness Canadians are much brighter, and you wouldn't elect Trump, especially for a second time. Bisou.
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Do you have a Wolfe day there?
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In Quebec? They are rolling back English language rights and religious freedoms here. They don't celebrate The Conquest.
I've read what she writes about in connection with Hamas sexual violence. And?
comment by son of quebec (U8127)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by son of quebec (U8127)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by son of quebec (U8127)
posted 3 hours, 11 minutes ago
Hey, old fella, Quebec ain't American. And I'm not a Bolshevik. So get that straight.
NYT is a leftist paper?
Anat Schwartz. Why would a leftie paper hire her? Get out of your bubble and have the balls to name this "American Bolshevik" you silly old fart.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Canadian American, same thing.
The Telegraph has a left wing columnist and they are right wing. They all like to present themselves as centrist to a degree.
But I read it. They are Democrat supporting and have a leftist viewpoint. If you don't think they are good for you.
So your a Canadian bolshevic.
Why is old an insult? Don't you want to get there.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Canadian and American are the same thing?
This is why I think you're a trou de cul.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I knew you would like that. In all fairness Canadians are much brighter, and you wouldn't elect Trump, especially for a second time. Bisou.
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Do you have a Wolfe day there?
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In Quebec?They are rolling back English language rights and religious freedoms here. They don't celebrate The Conquest.
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Really, I didn't know that. We get lots of reports about the US, but very little about Canada.
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 2 minutes ago
I've read what she writes about in connection with Hamas sexual violence. And?
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Incidentally I don't want lots of discussion about papers political leaning. I was just trying to give a heads up on the offer.
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 17 minutes ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 2 minutes ago
I've read what she writes about in connection with Hamas sexual violence. And?
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Incidentally I don't want lots of discussion about papers political leaning. I was just trying to give a heads up on the offer.
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I know. I'm just holding a grudge since the last time we spoke. (Because I'm not a lot younger than you) So I'll apologise for being rude earlier. Off to the wine shop to get "her" quotidien.
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posted on 5/3/24
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 2 hours, 6 minutes ago
Only in a political environment where radical right ideas are normalised would the NYT be regarded as 'left-wing'. Its centre of gravity is closer to the Democrat party but that's because the party is relatively centrist. It's also very committed to its brand as an impartial 'newspaper of record' and therefore publishes conservative opinion writers as well as liberal ones. And it has been long observed that it tends to go aggressively after Democrat politicians in its reporting - e.g. making the Hilary emails 'scandal' front page for an extended period while treating more substantive worries about Trump differently. I don't think that's anti-Democrat bias, but a slightly pathological need to demonstrate balance (a bit like when Gary Neville goes overboard in praising United's opponents). There are even lots of NYT parody accounts on social media that play on this dynamic.
That's not to say it's a bad paper to read, nor that the offer 52 has mentioned isn't well worth taking up.
As for wine, I'm reasonably well off but paying more than a tenner for a bottle seems extravagant.
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It's similar to the Grauniad, a newspaper I've read and enjoyed all my life, my parents got it so I started young.
I also get the Times, DT, and Le Monde. The French Guardian. I tend to look at them all, but read the Guardian. Reading a newspaper doesn't necessarily mean you agree with all their viewpoints.
A golfing mate liked to pull my leg about the Guardian, but he didn't read it, just picked up odd bits he didn't agree with. Even the DT is worth a look, I ignore the politics but their are plenty of good reports.
posted on 5/3/24
Hey, old fella, Quebec ain't American. And I'm not a Bolshevik. So get that straight.
NYT is a leftist paper?
Anat Schwartz. Why would a leftie paper hire her? Get out of your bubble and have the balls to name this "American Bolshevik" you silly old fart.
posted on 5/3/24
NYT is traditional conservative
Witch is now leftist 2 the mouthbreathers
posted on 5/3/24
Aren't they funded by the NYT? I like the NYT and have a subscsciprtion. Getting the Athletic free on top is a great deal, but feck me the Athletic can be a bore. I wouldn't pay to read it on its own.
posted on 5/3/24
comment by son of quebec (U8127)
posted 3 hours, 11 minutes ago
Hey, old fella, Quebec ain't American. And I'm not a Bolshevik. So get that straight.
NYT is a leftist paper?
Anat Schwartz. Why would a leftie paper hire her? Get out of your bubble and have the balls to name this "American Bolshevik" you silly old fart.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Canadian American, same thing.
The Telegraph has a left wing columnist and they are right wing. They all like to present themselves as centrist to a degree.
But I read it. They are Democrat supporting and have a leftist viewpoint. If you don't think they are good for you.
So your a Canadian bolshevic.
Why is old an insult? Don't you want to get there.
posted on 5/3/24
The Telegraph is the mouthpiece of the Conservative party. Everybody is aware of that.
posted on 5/3/24
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by son of quebec (U8127)
posted 3 hours, 11 minutes ago
Hey, old fella, Quebec ain't American. And I'm not a Bolshevik. So get that straight.
NYT is a leftist paper?
Anat Schwartz. Why would a leftie paper hire her? Get out of your bubble and have the balls to name this "American Bolshevik" you silly old fart.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Canadian American, same thing.
The Telegraph has a left wing columnist and they are right wing. They all like to present themselves as centrist to a degree.
But I read it. They are Democrat supporting and have a leftist viewpoint. If you don't think they are good for you.
So your a Canadian bolshevic.
Why is old an insult? Don't you want to get there.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Canadian and American are the same thing?
This is why I think you're a trou de cul.
posted on 5/3/24
comment by son of quebec (U8127)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by son of quebec (U8127)
posted 3 hours, 11 minutes ago
Hey, old fella, Quebec ain't American. And I'm not a Bolshevik. So get that straight.
NYT is a leftist paper?
Anat Schwartz. Why would a leftie paper hire her? Get out of your bubble and have the balls to name this "American Bolshevik" you silly old fart.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Canadian American, same thing.
The Telegraph has a left wing columnist and they are right wing. They all like to present themselves as centrist to a degree.
But I read it. They are Democrat supporting and have a leftist viewpoint. If you don't think they are good for you.
So your a Canadian bolshevic.
Why is old an insult? Don't you want to get there.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Canadian and American are the same thing?
This is why I think you're a trou de cul.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I knew you would like that. In all fairness Canadians are much brighter, and you wouldn't elect Trump, especially for a second time. Bisou.
posted on 5/3/24
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by son of quebec (U8127)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by son of quebec (U8127)
posted 3 hours, 11 minutes ago
Hey, old fella, Quebec ain't American. And I'm not a Bolshevik. So get that straight.
NYT is a leftist paper?
Anat Schwartz. Why would a leftie paper hire her? Get out of your bubble and have the balls to name this "American Bolshevik" you silly old fart.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Canadian American, same thing.
The Telegraph has a left wing columnist and they are right wing. They all like to present themselves as centrist to a degree.
But I read it. They are Democrat supporting and have a leftist viewpoint. If you don't think they are good for you.
So your a Canadian bolshevic.
Why is old an insult? Don't you want to get there.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Canadian and American are the same thing?
This is why I think you're a trou de cul.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I knew you would like that. In all fairness Canadians are much brighter, and you wouldn't elect Trump, especially for a second time. Bisou.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Do you have a Wolfe day there?
posted on 5/3/24
Canadians aren't much brighter.(Truck drivers who think they should be able to change the constitution.) There are just more azzoles in the US.
In fact I wouldn't rate the intelligence of nationalities based on the stupid people you might hear from any nation. Kinda makes one look bigoted.
Anyway find out who Anat Schwartz is and tell me a left wing rag would hire such a beast.
posted on 5/3/24
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by son of quebec (U8127)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by son of quebec (U8127)
posted 3 hours, 11 minutes ago
Hey, old fella, Quebec ain't American. And I'm not a Bolshevik. So get that straight.
NYT is a leftist paper?
Anat Schwartz. Why would a leftie paper hire her? Get out of your bubble and have the balls to name this "American Bolshevik" you silly old fart.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Canadian American, same thing.
The Telegraph has a left wing columnist and they are right wing. They all like to present themselves as centrist to a degree.
But I read it. They are Democrat supporting and have a leftist viewpoint. If you don't think they are good for you.
So your a Canadian bolshevic.
Why is old an insult? Don't you want to get there.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Canadian and American are the same thing?
This is why I think you're a trou de cul.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I knew you would like that. In all fairness Canadians are much brighter, and you wouldn't elect Trump, especially for a second time. Bisou.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Do you have a Wolfe day there?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
In Quebec? They are rolling back English language rights and religious freedoms here. They don't celebrate The Conquest.
posted on 5/3/24
I've read what she writes about in connection with Hamas sexual violence. And?
posted on 5/3/24
comment by son of quebec (U8127)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by son of quebec (U8127)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by son of quebec (U8127)
posted 3 hours, 11 minutes ago
Hey, old fella, Quebec ain't American. And I'm not a Bolshevik. So get that straight.
NYT is a leftist paper?
Anat Schwartz. Why would a leftie paper hire her? Get out of your bubble and have the balls to name this "American Bolshevik" you silly old fart.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Canadian American, same thing.
The Telegraph has a left wing columnist and they are right wing. They all like to present themselves as centrist to a degree.
But I read it. They are Democrat supporting and have a leftist viewpoint. If you don't think they are good for you.
So your a Canadian bolshevic.
Why is old an insult? Don't you want to get there.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Canadian and American are the same thing?
This is why I think you're a trou de cul.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I knew you would like that. In all fairness Canadians are much brighter, and you wouldn't elect Trump, especially for a second time. Bisou.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Do you have a Wolfe day there?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
In Quebec?They are rolling back English language rights and religious freedoms here. They don't celebrate The Conquest.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Really, I didn't know that. We get lots of reports about the US, but very little about Canada.
posted on 5/3/24
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 2 minutes ago
I've read what she writes about in connection with Hamas sexual violence. And?
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Incidentally I don't want lots of discussion about papers political leaning. I was just trying to give a heads up on the offer.
posted on 5/3/24
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 17 minutes ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 2 minutes ago
I've read what she writes about in connection with Hamas sexual violence. And?
-------------------------------------------------------------------
Incidentally I don't want lots of discussion about papers political leaning. I was just trying to give a heads up on the offer.
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I know. I'm just holding a grudge since the last time we spoke. (Because I'm not a lot younger than you) So I'll apologise for being rude earlier. Off to the wine shop to get "her" quotidien.
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