I think you can tell straight away whether someone is going to make it as a manager. Players like Barton, Terry, Lampard and Gerrard were never really going to make it but players who have made successful managers like Alonso, Arteta, Rooney and Kompany, you could tell straight away that they would be a success.

What age is the cut off point. Like for example Inzaghi doing well at Inter but he is 47.

rooney

This guy has called for the sacking of Arteta and now he thinks he will be an elite manager??

comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 5 minutes ago
This guy has called for the sacking of Arteta and now he thinks he will be an elite manager??
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explained in the article he has the potential to be one, but the reasons for why i wanted him sacked is what is holding him back

comment by (K̇ash) - Klopp's Last Dance - Free Pale... (U1108)
posted 33 minutes ago
What age is the cut off point. Like for example Inzaghi doing well at Inter but he is 47.
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i guess under 45 i would say

comment by Willie Dyer (U1734)
posted 38 minutes ago
I think you can tell straight away whether someone is going to make it as a manager. Players like Barton, Terry, Lampard and Gerrard were never really going to make it but players who have made successful managers like Alonso, Arteta, Rooney and Kompany, you could tell straight away that they would be a success.
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What an absolute load of nonsense . First of all, I think you need to revise what it is to be a good or bad manager. Sometimes it's about the fit. At Arsenal, you'd have said Emery was shiiiit. You wouldn't now. At Spurs you'd have said Pochettino was world class. You wouldn't now.

There's no profile of player you can predict will manage well or badly. Some would say the better the player, the worse the manager. That's simply not true. Guardiola owes everything he currently is to Johan Cruyff, one of the greatest players of all time and a revolutionary coach. Equally you'd look at Roy Keane, Tony Adams and John Terry and assume their leadership would translate well into management. It didn't.

I'm interested to know what it is about Terry, Lampard and Gerrard you think is definable as 'never going to make it'. I'm disregarding Barton. He's just a priiiick that doesn't deserve airtime.

And what is it you see in Alonso, Arteta, Rooney and Kompany that says they'll be a success? You won't be able to answer it because there isn't an answer. I'd love to have heard your opinion on this when Arteta was failing at Arsenal at the start and Alonso wasn't even a manager at that point.

comment by Willie Dyer (U1734)
posted 55 minutes ago
I think you can tell straight away whether someone is going to make it as a manager. Players like Barton, Terry, Lampard and Gerrard were never really going to make it but players who have made successful managers like Alonso, Arteta, Rooney and Kompany, you could tell straight away that they would be a success.
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Rooney?

Good one Barry mate.

comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 6 minutes ago

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Barry on a clear WUM

That Hoeness lad at Hoffenheim is it?

Thiago Motta at Bologna.

And high hope for the Argentine guy but he ran to Al Ittihad. Marcelo Gallardo

Bloody hell, fridge.

Not that I think he is going to be elite but O'Neill has started well and on his current trajectory he may get a better gig at some point. Tactically he is pretty sharp and knows his shat.

comment by Cinciwolf----JA06 NFL Fantasy CHAMP 2023 (U11551)
posted 3 minutes ago
Not that I think he is going to be elite but O'Neill has started well and on his current trajectory he may get a better gig at some point. Tactically he is pretty sharp and knows his shat.
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It's not 1997

Tim Sherwood

comment by Bãleș left boot (U22081)
posted 32 minutes ago
comment by Cinciwolf----JA06 NFL Fantasy CHAMP 2023 (U11551)
posted 3 minutes ago
Not that I think he is going to be elite but O'Neill has started well and on his current trajectory he may get a better gig at some point. Tactically he is pretty sharp and knows his shat.
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It's not 1997
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Eh?

Big Ange

comment by Cinciwolf----JA06 NFL Fantasy CHAMP 2023 (U11551)
posted 19 minutes ago
comment by Bãleș left boot (U22081)
posted 32 minutes ago
comment by Cinciwolf----JA06 NFL Fantasy CHAMP 2023 (U11551)
posted 3 minutes ago
Not that I think he is going to be elite but O'Neill has started well and on his current trajectory he may get a better gig at some point. Tactically he is pretty sharp and knows his shat.
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It's not 1997
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Eh?
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https://images.app.goo.gl/63n81xHpKftz8sTU7

comment by Bãleș left boot (U22081)
posted 1 second ago
comment by Cinciwolf----JA06 NFL Fantasy CHAMP 2023 (U11551)
posted 19 minutes ago
comment by Bãleș left boot (U22081)
posted 32 minutes ago
comment by Cinciwolf----JA06 NFL Fantasy CHAMP 2023 (U11551)
posted 3 minutes ago
Not that I think he is going to be elite but O'Neill has started well and on his current trajectory he may get a better gig at some point. Tactically he is pretty sharp and knows his shat.
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It's not 1997
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Eh?
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https://images.app.goo.gl/63n81xHpKftz8sTU7
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Geez, forgotten all about him

If Klopp is elite should Simeone be also?

Simeone is definitely elite. Amazing what he has achieved while being clearly the third club in Spain. We could argue who the third club is in England, but regardless none have achieved what he has at Atletico

comment by Cinciwolf-----JA606 NFL fantasy champ 2023 (U11551)
posted 47 minutes ago
Simeone is definitely elite. Amazing what he has achieved while being clearly the third club in Spain. We could argue who the third club is in England, but regardless none have achieved what he has at Atletico
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He's overachieved at Atletico and turned them into a big club in Europe. Unlucky not to win a CL. His 1st league title is possibly more impressive than any from Klopp or Pep.

If Simeone is an elite manager then I guess so is Ancelotti. Zidane too maybe?

comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Cinciwolf-----JA606 NFL fantasy champ 2023 (U11551)
posted 47 minutes ago
Simeone is definitely elite. Amazing what he has achieved while being clearly the third club in Spain. We could argue who the third club is in England, but regardless none have achieved what he has at Atletico
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He's overachieved at Atletico and turned them into a big club in Europe. Unlucky not to win a CL. His 1st league title is possibly more impressive than any from Klopp or Pep.

If Simeone is an elite manager then I guess so is Ancelotti. Zidane too maybe?
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Ancelotti certainly is. Zidane is as well I guess though I don't personally feel like he is.

I honestly think league titles trump CL in the overall scheme of things. Then doing it at multiple clubs also comes into the equation. Or over achieving perhaps like Simeone.

You can win the CL by beating 3rd 4th place league teams from elite leagues.